WTF do carriers have much faster delivery of ipX than Apple?

spinedoc77

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Weird phenomenon, but I noticed this today. I snoozed on the preorder day, and Friday I was swamped at work and totally forget. I preordered 2 iPhone X's from Apple about 8pm EST yesterday evening. They have a delivery date of 12/11 to 12/18, no biggie I kind of figured there would be a wait.

So I was browsing the carriers tonight and notice they have much better ship times. Verizon says "delivers by" 12/1. Tmobile says shipping dates are 11/10 to 12/1. Why are the carrier ship times so much better? I'm kind of curious before I order with them and cancel my Apple order.

I'm also curious why Verizon's trade in value for my 256gb 7 plus is so much better than Apple. Verizon offers $450 trade in, Apple only offers $280, although they do have a promotion which promises $350 from what I understand.
 

projectfx

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i assume part of the reason is that apple is a global company and those carriers are not.
 

Relentless Power

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I have the opposite experience of you. I believe Apple actually tends to have a fairly fast delivery experience from my past purchases over my carrier.
 

rarebeauty

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Because Apple ships worldwide. So orders are flowing in from literally everywhere. Carriers are only tied to people in the United States.
 
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spinedoc77

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I have the opposite experience of you. I believe Apple actually tends to have a fairly fast delivery experience from my past purchases over my carrier.
How do you have the opposite experience? You can go onto apple.com or the apple app and its still showing 5-6 weeks. Go order one on Verizon or Tmobile and you will see the faster delivery dates.
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Because Apple ships worldwide. So orders are flowing in from literally everywhere. Carriers are only tied to people in the United States.
I see, this makes sense, Apple makes money regardless of who sells it.
 
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Statusnone88

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Count AT&T out. All colors and storage sizes showing a mid-December shipping time frame.
 

Relentless Power

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How do you have the opposite experience? You can go onto apple.com or the apple app and its still showing 5-6 weeks. Go order one on Verizon or Tmobile and you will see the faster delivery dates.
Again, My experience is opposite of yours. Apple is delivering on November 3, where Verizon is November 13-14 for the orders confirmed. Ordered same time frame. Everybody will have different experiences. Not all carriers are that consistent as well, considering if they are based in the United States. Apple is also notorious for projecting later ship dates, which they tend to fulfill earlier than expected.
 
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Jjayf

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Carriers order quantities for initial distribution in advance of release and fulfill their preorders from those numbers.
 

spinedoc77

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Again, My experience is opposite of yours. Apple is delivering on November 3, where Verizon is November 13-14 for the orders confirmed. Ordered same time frame. Everybody will have different experiences. Not all carriers are that consistent as well, considering if they are based in the United States. Apple is also notorious for projecting later ship dates, which they tend to fulfill earlier than expected.
I'm assuming you placed your Verizon order later than the apple order. There are plenty of forum members in the Verizon pre order thread who are getting their phone much earlier than that from Verizon, similar to Apple's best ship dates.

But anyhow it's a bit unrelated, as I stated I placed my order a full day later than pre orders started. I would expect both Apple and the carriers both got slammed, as they do every year. I agree with other posters that a large part of it is probably that Apple is selling phones world wide, and also allots a very large portion of its preorder hardware to the carriers.