Xiaomi overtook both Apple and Samsung to become the top selling smartphone in China

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by EbookReader, Jan 28, 2014.

  1. EbookReader, Jan 28, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2014

    EbookReader macrumors 65816

    Apr 3, 2012
    in December 2013. (didn't have room in the title)

    China is the #1 smartphone market in the world (USA is #2).


    Xiaomi is basically the Chinese version of the Nexus 4/ Nexus 5 / Kindle Fire / Kindle HD / Kindle Fire HDX. High specs smartphone / tablets at nearly break-even prices.


    Xiaomi is projecting 40 million smartphones sales in 2014.

    2012 actual: ~7 million
    2013 actual: ~19 million
    2014 projection: ~40 milllion

    Here's why Google and Amazon is SCARY to OEM. They can sell hardware at break-even.

    Google makes more money as more people have access to the internet.
    Amazon makes more money as more people shop on the internet.
  2. lazard macrumors 68000

    Jul 23, 2012
    no surprise. Flagship specs for an affordable price.
  3. ChazUK macrumors 603


    Feb 3, 2008
    Essex (UK)
    Hugo Barra did a wise thing going to Xiaomi when he did.

    When will they start to venture overseas?
  4. Lloydbm41 Suspended


    Oct 17, 2013
    Central California
    Neither Apple, nor Google are afraid of Xiaomi. Most Chinese can't afford an iPhone or even a Nexus device. They can afford a Xiaomi. The Chinese government also prefers having Chinese buy homegrown products. (It also doesn't help that China blocks Google apps and services.)

    All Apple and Google can do is sell their products to a portion of the Chinese market. Chinese will buy them, just not in the quantities of the cheaper phones.


    Believe I heard in a podcast recently that Xiaomi won't be venturing outside of China anytime soon. I think it was on the podcast All About Android last month?
  5. G-Force macrumors 6502a

    Nov 25, 2006
    They are already venturing outside of China. Granted, it's still in Asia but they'll have to start somewhere.

    Also, they are optimizing their software for international use slowly, but steady.
  6. Mackan macrumors 65816

    Sep 16, 2007
    The guy must have a special in interest in Asia/China, otherwise I can't see him enjoying it for long. Also, Beijing isn't exactly a healthy place...
  7. EbookReader thread starter macrumors 65816

    Apr 3, 2012

    They must have offered him quite a bit of money to take him away from Google.
  8. Savor Suspended


    Jun 18, 2010
    Back in the day, I thought Meizu would be the one company to be put in this position. Congrats to Xiaomi (pronounced Shao-me for anyone wondering). I know The Woz is a believer in them.

    If Xiaomi can improve their build quality, they would no doubt be even more successful as Lenovo and Huawei based on global sales. The Asian market is very, very competitive.
  9. EbookReader thread starter macrumors 65816

    Apr 3, 2012
    If USA carriers drop subsidies, it could be good news for a company like Xiaomi that make high end devices at near break-even prices.

    Nexus 5 is an example.

    Maybe Amazon will join in the fun too.
  10. minimo3 macrumors 6502

    Oct 18, 2010
  11. Savor Suspended


    Jun 18, 2010
    Xiaomi Mi3 was released here in the Philippines yesterday through Lazada online store. Only 3000 were available and it took over an hour until it was sold out. Slow based on Xiaomi's standards as they usually sell out under 10 minutes.

    Price is equal to $243 US dollars. The specs and benchmark scores are quite remarkable. This was released in China last Fall and still defeats the Samsung Galaxy S5 with a Snapdragon 801 in benchmark scores. Perhaps the fastest phone to ever carry the SD800 chip. I watched reviews and comparisons of the Mi3, and it might even still be among the Top 3-5 smartphones of today. Very few weaknesses. Build quality, camera, and battery life are all good which can be issues for other flagships at 3x the cost. And it is cheaper than the Nexus 5 and OnePlus One which are bargains in their own right. I have no qualms with MIUI skin. Only downside is no expandable memory (though there is a 64 GB variant) and no LTE. And the phone is quite tall and wide for me but probably something I will get used to. But for under $250 with specs of $700-$800 flagships, there is alot more to love here. The only major downer is it is hard to get it. Like OnePlus One, once it is sold out, buyers become sellers and they just mark up the price.

    Xiaomi could be the future brand worth watching. Apple and Samsung were underdogs too back then. I know OnePlus is trying to emulate Xiaomi and I hope Amazon does the same.
  12. beosound3200 macrumors 6502a

    Nov 23, 2010
    Flagship phones at 200-300 $ are not a reality and they are damaging for the industry. Thats why samsung and apple reap all the profits, not good at all for the future

    Now, if people could only view beyond their wallets we could maybe stop this senseles commercialism and the eternal race to the bottom.
  13. kdarling macrumors P6


    Jun 9, 2007
    First university coding class = 47 years ago
    Not sure if serious :)

    That's like saying that DVD players should've stay at $1,000 minimum. Or HDTVs at $8,000.

    Or heck, that cell phones stayed at $4,000 like the DynaTAC and only work in certain areas!

    It's not a race to the bottom. It's the natural progression of consumer electronics products: more features for less money.
  14. beosound3200 macrumors 6502a

    Nov 23, 2010
    You didntt even mention the word quality...

    Is there a unit of measurement for that kind of thing, cheapness? Smth like 'feature per buck'?
  15. Savor Suspended


    Jun 18, 2010
    I just saw one reviewer compare the two price "disrupters" in the OnePlus One vs Xiaomi Mi3, and he said the Mi3 was one of the best he ever had but gave the OnePlus perhaps a slight edge. Maybe Cyanogen Mod over MIUI but it is like splitting hairs. If the Moto E/G's and Nexus devices are the value in the Western Hemisphere, OnePlus and Xiaomi are the price saviors of the Far East.

    Personally, I am waiting for Xiaomi to release the Redmi 1s (aka Hongmi or "red rice") in my country. I watched a video of Hugo Barra show random Mi products including the Mi bunnies stuff animals. The Mi3 is definitely the flagship and most stylish of the bunch, but I'm giving the Redmi 1s a second look. It is plastic but the back and battery is removable, has expansion slot, dual sim, good dimensions, and priced far cheaper at $135! And if not that, the $150 phablet Redmi Note with octa-core which beats the Galaxy S4 in benchmark scores.

    I don't feel the need to ever pay higher than $200-$250 for a decent phone now that Xiaomi is here. Moto G, Moto X, and Nexus 5 start looking expensive by comparison with Mi specs which can blow away the flagships from last year and the Mi3 is still outclassing some flagships from this year. Xiaomi isn't your typical Chinese brand with cheap parts. They use parts from Sharp, Samsung, Sony, Qualcomm, and use audio components that are used in BMW's and Rolls Royce. It is a future brand to remember.
  16. beosound3200 macrumors 6502a

    Nov 23, 2010
    nothing good comes cheap, thats the lesson i learned multiple times. manufacturers cut corners to bring the price down. you only see the price, not which corners were cut. thats why a stopped looking at a price and started looking at brands and their history.

  17. fredaroony macrumors 6502a

    Aug 1, 2011
  18. beosound3200 macrumors 6502a

    Nov 23, 2010
    no, it comes from the basic principles of capitalism and mass production

    the post is the outcome
  19. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 604

    Oct 27, 2009
    Consider most of their phones offer Dual-Sim, FM Radio, or both.
  20. iolinux333 macrumors 68000

    Feb 9, 2014
    No LTE? I won't consider any more devices that don't have most of, if not all of the lLTE bands.
  21. kdarling macrumors P6


    Jun 9, 2007
    First university coding class = 47 years ago

    A Tiny Chinese Startup Has Made My Favorite New Smartphone Of The Year - Business Insider

    There is a difference between being cheap, and being less expensive / greedy.

    For example, the OnePlus 64GB model is only $50 more than the 16GB model. That's simply being less expensive / greedy than certain other manufacturers who would charge $200 more.
  22. beosound3200 macrumors 6502a

    Nov 23, 2010
    I've read that. But ask yourself this, can any meaningful r&d come out of thin margins? Can there be a healthy industry with razor-thin margins?

    I want manufacturers from whom i buy products bathing in cash so they can make distruptive moves revolutionising the industry not penny-pinching and cutting corners. What can oneplus one do except put more downward pressure on the already very unhealthy smartphone industry in the perpetual race to the bottom?

    I have absolutely no respect for manufacturers who compete solely based on price. I dont care about the price, only about quality and features. What do xiaomi and oneplus have to offer?
  23. aeboi macrumors 65816


    Sep 20, 2009
    Bay Area
    You are the 1%
  24. jeffe macrumors 6502a

    Feb 17, 2008
  25. beosound3200 macrumors 6502a

    Nov 23, 2010
    No, im not, but a few hundred dollars more or less for smth ill be using for couple of years isnt going to make me hungry.

    Especially when youre buying subsidized.

    Im talking about cheap people, not poor people. And i wouldnt bet there is more poor people...

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