Yet another school shooting - elementary school kids and a teacher shot

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  1. oneMadRssn macrumors 68040

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    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sheriffs-office-report-shooting-sc-elementary-school-42424563

    "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms [and senselessly shoot small children], shall not be infringed." Right?
     
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    Fixed the egregious typo for you. There is a process to change the Constitution if you don't like what it says.

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    Thankfully no kids were killed this time.

    I can’t wait for Killary and Hoebama to give their usual deceitful speeching about guns, when they both have given machine guns and ammunition to terrorists including al-Qaeda, who have then shot, killed and beheaded children.
     
  5. oneMadRssn thread starter macrumors 68040

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    You must not be familiar with the use of brackets in quotes to contextualize.

    Yet it keeps happening. If 9/11 families can now sue foreign countries for terrorism, the families of shooting victims should be able to sue the gun manufacturers and stores. Perhaps that will get them to think twice about who they sell to and how often.

    Let me say it in Donald: Unfair protection for gun companies and stores bad. Not good. Special interest control it all, let me tell you, I know. Bad bad laws. China, who knows?

    One kid is in critical condition, so whether anyone was killed is still tbd.
     
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    So, if you, @oneMadRssn, sell something within the boundaries of the law and that person uses it to kill someone, we can hold you accountable? That is good to know.
     
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    let's include car manufacturers who sell cars to drunk drivers, lawsuits for everyone yayyyyyyyy
     
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    I didn't know cars were manufactured to kill sentient beings.
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    are you capable of talking about any other subject?
     
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    all my guns are defective since I am yet to kill anyone, all they do is shoot paper/steel & clay targets :rolleyes:
     
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    Mine are even more defective than yours. All they shoot is paper and cardboard.
     
  11. oneMadRssn thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Currently that is true for pretty much every product but guns. If a Home Depot sells a GE refrigerator that falls on someone and kills them, the both Home Depot and GE can be sued. The plaintiff might not win on the merits, but the suit can proceed. There is an incentive for Home Depot to not sell dangerous products, and there is an incentive for GE to make their stuff as safe as reasonably possible. For no legitimate reason, guns are exempt.

    You can sue car manufacturers already. The suit isn't statutorily prohibited, like it is with gun companies. You probably won't win in the drunk driving scenario, unless the car came with vodka in the cup holders or something.

    Or, if Ford, GM, Toyota, Honda, and Hyundai all decide to include some kind of drunk-detection sensor that adds only $5 to the cost of manufacturing starting with the 2017 model year. And then someone drinks and drives, and kills someone in a Kia that was made in 2020. Kia can be sued for failing to include a safety device.

    This is not possible against gun companies. Thus there is no incentive for them to even try new safety technology.

    Also, plenty of law suits against bars for serving people they know will be driving soon. This has caused bars to be more mindful of who they serve.
     
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    And the tubbies of America can sue McDonald's for making them fat. Low energy statist liberals always put the blame on someone else. it's easier than putting the blame where it belongs... that would take too much effort
     
  13. Scepticalscribe, Sep 28, 2016
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    Leaving typos, brackets, and such matters aside, is there anything about how the Second Amendment is interpreted in the US, at present, that bothers you, or gives you a slight cause for concern?


    Sigh.

    I think it possible that your posts would be taken more seriously if the posts focussed more on argument and less on juvenile and puerile insults.

    Why so defensive?

    Put another way, how would you suggest that you deal with (because it is a US problem - nowhere else in the western world, or the first world, has anything remotely like this in their societies) - the issue of school murders? Of the murders of kids in schools?

    Because - from the jaundiced perspective of those of us weaponless wimps staring at this - agog - from across the wide expanse of an ocean - I have to say that this is quite unique - the kind of unique that statisticians would term 'an outlier' - in the western world, and in the first world.

    It is unique in terms of the numbers of kids killed, and it is unique in terms of the numbers of psychotic assaults committed by mostly young, (white) men, deranged, embittered, frustrated, alienated and armed young white men, (and it is young white men) who justify dealing with their pain by means of mass slaughter.

    While few will deny the pain of male adolescent alienation (in some quarters), there are no other societies in the First World, where senseless school slaughters take place to any - let alone this level of weekly or monthly horror show - serious extent, and nor are they shrugged off as an inevitable - if regrettable - consequence of a ludicrously rigid interpretation of the Second Amendment in a world and in a context it was never - or may never have been - designed for.

    Re school shootings, @jkcerda, that is not the point, and you know it.

    You come from this society: How would you seek to deal with it?
     
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    Why do you hate America?

    Our 3-legged stool of a government system, where the court system is as important as either of the other legs, is one of the things that makes our country great. In what other system can citizens try to hold huge corporations accountable?

    Everyone keeps trying to point out outlandish examples of law suits. But that is exactly the point - those are all times where people have the opportunity to try and make their case in court.

    "Tubbies" can sue McDonalds. They might not win, but they have a right to try. Citizens in our country should be able to stand in front of a judge, and get the judge to decide whether it was was the store that sold them the cigarettes, the company that made the cigarettes, or themselves that are responsible for their cancer. Why shouldn't parents of injured children be able to ask a similar question in a court?
     
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    funny cuz southern republicans are the obese people. including their candidate for president!
     
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    lol...
     
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    I think the word you are looking for is obtuse.
     
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    Does the same apply to Jack Daniels? That's what the drunk driver who killed the kids of our family friends was drinking when he lost control of his semi truck.
     
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    How about sueing Anheuser Busch for selling the alcohol to dunk drivers?
     
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    And coors for selling urine disguised as beer :p
     
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    Corona is the one that tastes like piss.
     
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    That's racist,,,,,,,:D
     
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    What possible policy decision do you think would have prevented this?
     
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    Mad Russian would be all for suing the manufacturer of the semi truck as well. How dare they sell a truck to a guy that will drink and drive.
     

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