...which is why Apple doesn't use this in marketing...Whatever the IT related damage it does that will be nothing compared to the physiological and marketing fallout that will occur. It will certainly put a dent in the pride of your average Mac fanatic. Likewise the marketing arm over at Apple will have to change things to almost perfect. Anyway, I dont see this happening anytime soon but I suppose, like death and taxes, it is inevitable.
It's been done, as a worm. Shockingly, Outlook Express or Entourage had to be in use for it to work. linky. Entourage actually warned about the script, and there were few enough people using Mac OE that it didn't really get the opportunity to spread.Stella said:I'm pretty sure AppleScript will be a target... i'm surprised there aren't viruses / trojans that haven't exploited it yet.
I think that says it's for OS 9.1 or 9.2, though, but I see the point.iMeowbot said:
So i repliedI see - why a mac - the only one I've delt with have been a real pain to setup
Response...Hmm, well no one reason exactley - i have just wanted to try one for a long while - and OSX is looking really nice. It will be an interesting experience i checked out all the forums and such and people seem to be pretty happy so i want to see what the fuss is about kinda thing. Plus i like the idea of not having to worry about virus's and exploits, im hoping it will run photoshop better too as well as other things.
Hmmm a few new ones that targeting OSX?good for you - but still watch out for virusus - there has been a few new ones that targeting OSX. I'm a MSCP MSDST. I've played around with MAC & Linux but still come back to MS. For ease of use & compatabilty its still way ahead of the rest. But one day this may change.
It isn't easy to write a Mac virus and that's why they haven't done it. It has nothing to do with what boxes hackers use or Mac market share. There are cell phone OSes with only a few hundred thousand users and they have viruses. As an example, hackers don't use boxes with the Symbian OS, but they write viruses for it.iDM said:Viruses will make their way to the Mac i'm only suprised they haven't yet. If the writers of these things knew how safe and cosy most mac users feel, they'd write one in a heartbeat. I think its because the average hacker doesn't use OSX(obviously) because I believe in their custom boxes they are constantly upgrading(with someone elses CC), something that is hard for mac boxes. I think depending on how this whole intel thing shakes out, if it becomes easily "hackable" to make the average PC work with OSX because of changes in the OS then I think we could start to see alot of this things.
Umm not since Lookout 2000 you havent. Opening an e-mail does not open the attachment. Dont know about Lookout Express but in the pro app it does not run and with Lookout 2003 it wont load ANY external links without you right clicking and selecting load or right clicking and selecting add user to safe domain list.ITASOR said:I think that says it's for OS 9.1 or 9.2, though, but I see the point.
See, I don't call things Virus' that have to be opened (i.e., e-mail attachments). What bugs me on Windows is that you can be a perfectly good windows user, get an e-mail with a virus, the stupid thing opens itself, and BAM: infected.
That is what is know as spyware. Which could TECHNICALLY be called a virus. Actual its more of a Trojan then anything else in that its doing things to your system you didnt intend. The file may be downloaded into your browser cache but it isn't loaded. Assuming you aren't using IE that is. Those files are generally isolated and the only thing going on is that Norton is going "AH-HA! I see a file that is a know Trojan is being placed on your hard drive I am super AV and I will quarantine it! *Norton sings* HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY!" OK that would be kinda spooky if NAV sang.Another example. Surfing the average website, clicking around in Google, BAM: Norton comes up with a virus found. Incredible! I always thing of what would happen if I DIDN'T have Norton and had gone to that website.
And there is the rub of it. Windows users, to a certain extent, are immunized to the fact that their platform has viruses because they/we have had to deal with this **** for years. The nanosecond a virus or worm is found on a Mac its going to spread like wildfire because Mac users are currently secure in the knowledge that their platform has no viruses. adware doesn't affect them. Worms? Bah. Whatever.If I, on a Mac, occasionally received an e-mail with an attachment about something that was from either someone I didn't know, something I wasn't interested in, etc., that wouldn't really worry me.
And as long as Safari and Firefox and such are locked down to the extent that it prompts before installing this won't be an issue. The problem is that there will always be work arounds. Both technical and social work arounds. People can and are routinely tricked into clicking on a popup. People are tricked into installing a spyware addin. People are tricked into running that attachment on their e-mail because its from friend joe who would never intend me any hard. Its similar to how for music.....if you can hear it....you can copy it. Browsing in its vary nature is designed to render a page on your screen. IMHO there will always be ways around security as browser pages become more and more complex as time goes on.I'll be worried the day I'm surfing in Safari and I get something saying "Hey, thanks, buddy, ToolBar XXX is now installing so you can have access to my site!". Then. I will be worried.
Don't EVER say that. There is no such thing as being too secure in code. Now in usage is a differnt matter. I can lock down windows to the extent that I need to do something on screen before I go to the bathroom. But there there is a fine line beween security and paroinoia.matthew24 said:Apple is very pro-active if it comes to virii, the architecture is as secure as an OS can be.