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skiltrip

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May 6, 2010
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What is this business about iPhone 4 being IPS, and the iPod touch is not, even though they are both "retina" and at the same resolution. What's the difference?
 

alphaod

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Feb 9, 2008
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The iPhone 4 panels is actually FFS (a subset of IPS, but not IPS in itself), but anyways… IPS has better color reproduction, almost 180º viewing angles (without changes in contrast or color), good black reproduction.
 

gianly1985

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May 30, 2008
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From Engadget gallery:

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pingualoty

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Sep 1, 2010
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It does seem as though it is non-ips as the pics show. Also when the fornt bezel and digitizer was leaked in a video last week the guy mentioned that the ipod screen looked paler and was not identical. It's a shame but it is a lower end device than the iphone and unless u use it in direct sunlight all the time or look at it from strange angles then it will be ok we have coped for 3 years with non-ips.

Also side angles look ok as the 2nd gen does while up and down are bad on both (using my 2nd gen as a test btw)

As can be seen here:

ipodtouch2010hands4.jpg
 

sarcosis

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Apr 25, 2006
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They can only do so much with a $229.99/$299.99/$399.99 price point. I bet you it's a cost thing. Remember, full cost (to produce and MSRP) for an IP4 is much greater than what an iTouch would be. They can only do so much and still make a profit.
 

gianly1985

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They can only do so much with a $229.99/$299.99/$399.99 price point. I bet you it's a cost thing. Remember, full cost (to produce and MSRP) for an IP4 is much greater than what an iTouch would be. They can only do so much and still make a profit.

I'd rather Apple offered, like last year, a base 8gb model with previous gen hardware (ipod touch 3G) but high-end models (32gb/64gb) that offered "the real ip4-like iOS experience", including a full featured IPS Retina Display. Hardware-wise (if we don't count radio chips) high-end iPod Touch models have always been equal or better (a bit overclocked CPU, etc) to the current iphone, having a worse display it's a first.

The fact is this year they HAD to give the Gyro and Retina Display (at least resolution-wise) even to the base 8gb model, in order to make the latest games work at their best on it. Because they are marketing iPod Touch as a gaming platform and as such it's crucial to make even the base model enjoy a full AppStore-Gaming_Section experience, and it's crucial to get rid of non-Gyro-enabled and non-Retina models ASAP.

So, basically you're right, and I blame mostly the 8gb model for the budget restraint.
 

Peterson8765

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May 18, 2010
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I think for just an additional $30 from the $199 cost for all you get with the new iPod touch 4G is just fine, It probably costs about $160-$170 to make it so they gotta make some profit.
 

greg555

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Mar 24, 2005
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If you look at the Endadget video, when they pan the cam down to compare the thickness, you see his iPhone 4 hold it's color and clarity while the iPod sort of "blues" out or washes out.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/01/ipod-touch-2010-first-hands-on/

Yes. At about 17 seconds in you can see that the iPod sceen's white background has turned a yellowish, almost reversed, image and the iPhone is still perfect.

That's too bad the new touch isn't IPS, but it didn't stop me from ordering one anyway.

Greg
 

Code.Red

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Apr 18, 2010
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Yes. At about 17 seconds in you can see that the iPod sceen's white background has turned a yellowish, almost reversed, image and the iPhone is still perfect.

Ah, yes indeed. It's too bad, but it's definitely not a big issue. I bet most people probably won't even notice.
 

tubemonkey

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Sep 10, 2009
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That's too bad the new touch isn't IPS, but it didn't stop me from ordering one anyway.

That's Apple's thinking also. They can use lower spec'd features and leave stuff out, because people will still buy it. So why not skimp?
 

iTouch.lover22

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Oct 30, 2009
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Did the 3rd gen iPod touch have IPS? I felt disappointed when I read that this new one didn't, until I realized that it was my iPad with IPS, not the iPod touch. Can someone just confirm this? I've been completely happy with my 3rd gen screen quality, so no problems if this one doesn't have IPS :)
 

Code.Red

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Apr 18, 2010
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Did the 3rd gen iPod touch have IPS? I felt disappointed when I read that this new one didn't, until I realized that it was my iPad with IPS, not the iPod touch. Can someone just confirm this? I've been completely happy with my 3rd gen screen quality, so no problems if this one doesn't have IPS :)

Nope, the only iOS devices with the IPS screens are the iPhone 4 and the iPad.
 

charpi

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Sep 30, 2006
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Just thought I would contribute this. It's a screenshot from the engadget video comparing the IP4 and the new touch.
 

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