View Full Version : Its possible! Browsing macrumors with a MacSE30..
cluthz
Jan 7, 2005, 09:42 PM
ok its 03:30 in the morning, so this should probably go straigth to wasteland.
but, i decided earlier this evening that i should resurect my old SE30(8mb ram/200mb hd/ethernet).
After some hours working ive installed os 7.5.5, mac tpc(tcp/ip wouldnt work) and im actually posting this with explorer 2.1!
Im by no means a MS fan, but ie 2.1 is the only browser i found that works well. Netscape 3 gives "me out of memory", netscape 2.0 crashes when i enter the forum.. iCab gives me a "bus error, please restart" message when i try to use it.
I was impressed how well macrumors renders on this machine, although its slow it gives me a decent looking result..
i got two MacIIsis, so im thinking that i will take the ram sticks from one of them (both has 17mb ram) and put them in this SE30, and maybe i then can run a few more apps.
i also took some pics (with my digital camera) maybe ill post them tomorrow..
//time for bed...
hcuar
Jan 7, 2005, 09:59 PM
That is sooo awsum! Congrats! Yes, pics please!
Mertzen
Jan 7, 2005, 10:08 PM
I second that request for pics ..
timnosenzo
Jan 7, 2005, 10:17 PM
haha. that's great :D
dsharits
Jan 7, 2005, 10:19 PM
An SE30?!?!?:eek: Wow, were you really bored or something?
Daniel
MacDawg
Jan 7, 2005, 10:36 PM
I loved my SE30 up until the day I sold it...
Wish I had it back, along with my '67 Chevelle 327
and a few other items that I let get away from me!
Woof, Woof - Dawg
sjpetry
Jan 7, 2005, 10:50 PM
Thats kool. bask to basics. :)
cluthz
Jan 8, 2005, 07:45 AM
Ok here's the pics:
I've turned off image-autoloading to speed up browsing a bit.
http://home.no.net/xjohnnyx/se30net/PICT1540.jpg
http://home.no.net/xjohnnyx/se30net/PICT1543.jpg
Congratulations - that is truly cool! :)
Blue Velvet
Jan 8, 2005, 08:45 AM
...so this should probably go straigth to wasteland.
No way!
It's stuff like this that makes this place interesting & funny, too...
I'm almost getting nostalgic looking at that little B&W screen, as long as I don't have to actually use it...
:)
cluthz
Jan 8, 2005, 10:11 AM
No way!
It's stuff like this that makes this place interesting & funny, too...
I'm almost getting nostalgic looking at that little B&W screen, as long as I don't have to actually use it...
:)
My brain had stopped a few hours eariler when I posted the thread, due to large amounts of coffee and lack of sleep.
The SE30 screen is actually really crappy. Especially when the machine is residing newt to my viewsonic VP series LCD...
I remember 10-15 years ago I actually used this machine alot.. But it was never on the internet.. My first machine on the internet was a IIsi in 1994 i think, dial up on a 9600 baud modem... only a little year later I was using a PM6100 with a us robotics courier 28k, it was sooo fast..
I also have a portable in my closet, but think mosiac or lynx is the only browers that will run on a 68000 CPU... The HD is dead too... But the screen is actuall very good! Those old b&w LCDs are often very plesant to use..
I think my SE30 is ready to linux soon..
And for those who wonders, yeah, I've almost out of money after the holiday and my University don't opens before 17. January.. I got a lot of sparetime at the moment... :p
Mertzen
Jan 8, 2005, 11:00 AM
That is truely sweet ..
MacNeXT
Jan 8, 2005, 11:29 AM
Congratulations, that's cool!
I was contemplating upon buying a SE/30 myself to create an awesome retro MP3 jukebox that sits nicely on top of my audio set. But I'm not sure it's possible.
Apparently, you can put any size half height scsi drive in it and I have a couple of those laying around (4,3 GB). That problem should be tackled quite easily.
It looks like they use standard 30 pin simms, and memory is expandable to 128MB. I got some 16MB simms which I could use.
I heard network interfaces for SE/30 (to transfer MP3's) are rare but with some trouble it should be possible to find one. Another possibility is an external SCSI CDROM drive, but networking is the preferred solution. It may even be possible to keep MP3's on another computer.
But sound is 8 bit stereo. Is that acceptable quality? And are there any good MP3 players for 7.5?
dsharits
Jan 8, 2005, 11:34 AM
8-bit audio isn't good quality at all. As far as Mp3 players for 7.5, how about quicktime?
Daniel
cluthz
Jan 8, 2005, 11:50 AM
Congratulations, that's cool!
I was contemplating upon buying a SE/30 myself to create an awesome retro MP3 jukebox that sits nicely on top of my audio set. But I'm not sure it's possible.
Apparently, you can put any size half height scsi drive in it and I have a couple of those laying around (4,3 GB). That problem should be tackled quite easily.
It looks like they use standard 30 pin simms, and memory is expandable to 128MB. I got some 16MB simms which I could use.
I heard network interfaces for SE/30 (to transfer MP3's) are rare but with some trouble it should be possible to find one. Another possibility is an external SCSI CDROM drive, but networking is the preferred solution. It may even be possible to keep MP3's on another computer.
But sound is 8 bit stereo. Is that acceptable quality? And are there any good MP3 players for 7.5?
There are a few problems:
1) The 16Mhz 68030 isn't capable of playing Mp3, unless you ecode them as MONO 64kbit, maybe lower.
2) The sound output is mono and 8 bit is low quality...
Simon Liquid
Jan 8, 2005, 11:51 AM
You have to admit, getting a browser less than 8-10 years would be a step up. I have no idea how well the 68k version of iCab works but a few months back I was stuck on a 5400 running os 8.something and I downloaded iCab when I got too frustrated with the geriatric version of IE I was stuck with. It wasn't perfect but it worked a lot better.
http://icab.de/
cluthz
Jan 8, 2005, 11:57 AM
You have to admit, getting a browser less than 8-10 years would be a step up. I have no idea how well the 68k version of iCab works but a few months back I was stuck on a 5400 running os 8.something and I downloaded iCab when I got too frustrated with the geriatric version of IE I was stuck with. It wasn't perfect but it worked a lot better.
http://icab.de/
It crashed all the time on it... I guess developement for b&w macs with 512x384 screens ended a few years ago :p
dsharits
Jan 8, 2005, 12:00 PM
It crashed all the time on it... I guess developement for b&w macs with 512x384 screens ended a few years ago
No, really? You're kidding me.
Daniel :p
QCassidy352
Jan 8, 2005, 12:09 PM
that's awesome. Thanks for sharing dude! :D
OutThere
Jan 8, 2005, 12:14 PM
It crashed all the time on it... I guess developement for b&w macs with 512x384 screens ended a few years ago :p
I think they should really keep going with that stuff...especially with programs like final cut pro and photoshop...'twould be cool, eh? ;)
vollspacken
Jan 8, 2005, 12:35 PM
8-bit audio isn't good quality at all. As far as Mp3 players for 7.5, how about quicktime?
MP3 playback does not work on the little fella...
I have a maxed out SE/30 myself and Mp3 playback is choppy as hell even though I have 128MB ram and a 9GB HD...
I planned on encoding all Kraftwerk albums as MP3s and putting 'em on the HD, but you need at least a 68040 to play Mp3s with MpegDec (http://members.aol.com/xanathus/mpegdec/)
so I just ripped them as AIFFs... no problem since I have the space ;)
vSpacken
MacNeXT
Jan 8, 2005, 12:45 PM
MP3 playback does not work on the little fella...
I have a maxed out SE/30 myself and Mp3 playback is choppy as hell even though I have 128MB ram and a 9GB HD...
I planned on encoding all Kraftwerk albums as MP3s and putting 'em on the HD, but you need at least a 68040 to play Mp3s with MpegDec (http://members.aol.com/xanathus/mpegdec/)
so I just ripped them as AIFFs... no problem since I have the space ;)
vSpacken
Too bad. Would have been cool though.
Blue Velvet
Jan 8, 2005, 12:48 PM
I planned on encoding all Kraftwerk albums...
What superb taste you have!
:D
Electric Cafe & The Mix as well?
vollspacken
Jan 8, 2005, 01:01 PM
What superb taste you have!
:D
Electric Cafe & The Mix as well?
especially Electrick Cafe... "Boing-Bumm-Tschak/Musique Nonstop" is the first track that got me into the "Alex Reece 2-Step"-beat... I think it's kind of proto-D&B
and I like that it sounds so digital (in contrast to the fat analogue sound of Computerwelt or TEE.) The Mix..? some tracks are nice (Radioactivity), some are not (Homecomputer) :(
I really like TDF Soundtracks and The Bartos solo stuff though... Bartos should return!
vSpacken
Mechcozmo
Jan 8, 2005, 03:21 PM
You have to admit, getting a browser less than 8-10 years would be a step up. I have no idea how well the 68k version of iCab works but a few months back I was stuck on a 5400 running os 8.something and I downloaded iCab when I got too frustrated with the geriatric version of IE I was stuck with. It wasn't perfect but it worked a lot better.
http://icab.de/
There is a version of Mozilla that some guy wrote to run on OS 8.5/6. It is Mozilla 1.4, well, a subset of that, but flash/shockwave/etc installers all notice it as Mozilla and allow you to install it. They work, too. I've posted once or twice from that machine. Its a tad bit slow, but it works. Better than IE. It is, however, PPC only...
That is really neat. But remember that an SE/30 needs an enabler to use more than 8 MB of RAM, because it isn't 32-bit 'clean' but rather 32-bit 'dirty' which means that there is a combination of 24 bit and 32 bit parts working together. I'd bet it would be pretty cool, though, to get it to work...
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