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Gherkin
Jan 8, 2005, 04:45 AM
Apple really needs to make a basic level photo editor. Maybe they could build it right into iPhoto.

Apple Photo:Photoshop as Garageband:Logic

That's basically what I want.

What I usually use for stuff like this is GraphicConverter, which isn't that great. Is there anything free to download that would be better than GraphicConverter?



Counterfit
Jan 8, 2005, 05:53 AM
How basic? Red-eye/cropping/slight airbrushing basic? That's already there...

munkle
Jan 8, 2005, 06:38 AM
There's also Photoshop Elements if you're looking for more advanced features than the ones already offered by iPhoto.

Mertzen
Jan 8, 2005, 11:04 AM
They are already close to pissing off MS .. now why would they go piss off Adobe too ..

MacDawg
Jan 8, 2005, 11:08 AM
There's also Photoshop Elements if you're looking for more advanced features than the ones already offered by iPhoto.

Photoshop Elements is a great alternative

And contrary to what has been said,
I think Graphic Converter is a great tool and value!

Woof, Woof - Dawg

DavidLeblond
Jan 8, 2005, 11:32 AM
They are already close to pissing off MS .. now why would they go piss off Adobe too ..

Didn't they already do that?

I thought that Adobe was really pissed that Apple was competing with Adobe Premiere...

MacDawg
Jan 8, 2005, 11:51 AM
Didn't they already do that?

I thought that Adobe was really pissed that Apple was competing with Adobe Premiere...

That would be correct... which is why Adobe canned Premiere for the Mac.
There is a thread on this.

Woof, Woof - Dawg

Mertzen
Jan 8, 2005, 01:25 PM
Didn't they already do that?

I thought that Adobe was really pissed that Apple was competing with Adobe Premiere...

But I don't think Premiere ever had the same installed base on the Mac as Photoshop has ..

mrgreen4242
Jan 8, 2005, 01:33 PM
There's also Photoshop Elements if you're looking for more advanced features than the ones already offered by iPhoto.

Can anyone point me to a point by point feature comparrison of Elements and CS?


Thanks
Rob

JDar
Jan 8, 2005, 01:57 PM
Yes, indeed--a good comparison is on the Adobe site.

My basic take is that unless you need to do color separations for a professional printer, or blend color curves, and a very few other really advanced things, is that Elements will do at least 80% of what CS will do at a fraction of the cost, and the other 20% can be gotten through add-ons if you really need to do them.

mrgreen4242
Jan 8, 2005, 02:27 PM
Yes, indeed--a good comparison is on the Adobe site.

My basic take is that unless you need to do color separations for a professional printer, or blend color curves, and a very few other really advanced things, is that Elements will do at least 80% of what CS will do at a fraction of the cost, and the other 20% can be gotten through add-ons if you really need to do them.

Ok, I must be daft. I can't find a point by point comparrison on Adobe's site... I see all the product discriptions for CS and Elements, but not a feature comparrison type chart... :confused:

Anyways, I was also wondering if there will be an Elements upgrade with the Photoshop 9 upgrade?

Thanks,
Rob

JDar
Jan 8, 2005, 03:19 PM
The Elements (3) upgrade was released a few weeks ago. It's a winner. The few nits people are picking on the Adobe PSE forum will probably be addressed shortly, and they are minor.

I'll find a comparison of PSE and the real PS CS and pm that to you, unless others express an interest.

LethalWolfe
Jan 8, 2005, 07:11 PM
Didn't they already do that?

I thought that Adobe was really pissed that Apple was competing with Adobe Premiere...

IIRC something like 90% of Premiere users are PC users and Premiere Pro was a completely new, ground up version of Premiere. Why spend the time and money to create a product for 10% (and shrinking) of your audience. Adobe dropped Premiere for the Mac because it made sense, not out of spite. I don't think there is any way a Mac version of Premiere Pro would've covered its costs.

Lethal

fBaran
Jan 9, 2005, 03:40 AM
It's like Paint, and it's called Teal. It's better than photoshop for just basic stuff.