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mfacey
Feb 2, 2005, 11:57 AM
I've seen the vast number of stupid arguments why the mac mini is no-good on cnet.
Earlier I was checking for an iLife '05 review on cnet. And what do you know... lots of dumb mac bashers making no sense at all!

http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_iLife__05/4852-5_7-31256908.html?tag=top&pn=1&fb=2&ob=0

One guy is saying that you should try picasa by Google because its better and free! uhm... yeah.... its windows only! Duh!
I really wish these guys would give some well-supported critisism. Then I would maybe be able to take them seriously.

</rant> :rolleyes:



jsw
Feb 2, 2005, 12:17 PM
I've seen the vast number of stupid arguments why the mac mini is no-good on cnet.
Earlier I was checking for an iLife '05 review on cnet. And what do you know... lots of dumb mac bashers making no sense at all!

http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_iLife__05/4852-5_7-31256908.html?tag=top&pn=1&fb=2&ob=0

One guy is saying that you should try picasa by Google because its better and free! uhm... yeah.... its windows only! Duh!
I really wish these guys would give some well-supported critisism. Then I would maybe be able to take them seriously.

</rant> :rolleyes:
So write up your own review instead of letting the two anti-iLife ones stand alone there.

mfacey
Feb 2, 2005, 12:22 PM
So write up your own review instead of letting the two anti-iLife ones stand alone there.


I love to but I haven't actually used iLife '05 yet. I only really use iPhoto (don't have a dig. video camera yet) so I'll be sticking to iLife '04 right now. Besides, there's another 20 or so positive reviews so that's good too. These two just annoyed me though!

Lacero
Feb 2, 2005, 12:24 PM
I don't worry too much about this mac bashers. They can continue using their crappy bug-ridden OS.

Blue Velvet
Feb 2, 2005, 12:28 PM
I don't worry too much about this mac bashers. They can continue using their crappy bug-ridden OS.

Exactly.

Uninformed criticism is worthless... not worth worrying about.

PlaceofDis
Feb 2, 2005, 12:35 PM
and lets not forget that cnet is hardly the place to go for any worthwhile computer or software reviews, cell phone and printers maybe, but when it comes to computing that site is terribly biased as are the people to tend to go there, i used to frequent their reviews, but now i find them in poor taste more oft than not and i almost forgot that they were still around

dont let that idiots get you down, you just have to ignore them, it gets easier after awhile

mfacey
Feb 2, 2005, 12:38 PM
and lets not forget that cnet is hardly the place to go for any worthwhile computer or software reviews, cell phone and printers maybe, but when it comes to computing that site is terribly biased as are the people to tend to go there, i used to frequent their reviews, but now i find them in poor taste more oft than not and i almost forgot that they were still around

dont let that idiots get you down, you just have to ignore them, it gets easier after awhile

Luckily everybody here will be on my side concerning this topic!

I agree completely though. Cnet is good for electronics reviews. TVs, and stuff like that. THere's way to much Dell sponsoring on that site for it to be unbiased in computers!

expergo
Feb 2, 2005, 01:00 PM
i think picasa organizes photos better than iphoto. plus, it autoupdates your folders as well which is a nice feature.

stoid
Feb 2, 2005, 01:03 PM
i think picasa organizes photos better than iphoto. plus, it autoupdates your folders as well which is a nice feature.

Too bad it's only for Windows, and therefore no competition for iPhoto because it's not Mac OS X compatible.

Jalexster
Feb 2, 2005, 01:59 PM
iPhoto NEEDS the ability let you store you photos in a different location, like iTunes. It should also let you import an image, without making a copy of the original copy (which is an option in iTunes). Both iTunes and iPhoto NEED autoupdating folders. A "Music directory" would be nice. Basically, a list of music files, and tags, but without the ratings. My brother and me share the same folder for music, so we can listen to the same music (same interests). However, if he imports some music, It would be great if it would auto-add it to my library. It's not the same as sharing a libarary file, because we have different playlists and ratings.

Also, it would be nice if iTunes looses the location of a file, you could point it at a folder, and it could scan that folder, and it's subfolders for the missing file (currently you need to tell it EXACTLY where that file is). It would be even nicer if it could work out where a file is, even with a changed file name. It could check ID3 tags or something.

clayj
Feb 2, 2005, 02:39 PM
I don't worry too much about this mac bashers. They can continue using their crappy bug-ridden OS.I'm not a Mac basher, but I happen to LIKE my so-called "crappy bug-ridden OS". I also like my Mac mini. There is room enough for people to like BOTH Windows and the Mac, and neither operating system is perfect... they both have their flaws.

When you stoop to insulting Windows, you become no better than the Mac bashers on c-net.

Jalexster
Feb 2, 2005, 02:46 PM
Windows can be bearable, even pleasent to use if you follow a few simple rules, and add some useful little things (ZoneAlarm, Firefox, GAIM)), and know the tricks. You can keep it quite safe and secure. Just keep everything up to date.

jsw
Feb 2, 2005, 02:46 PM
I'm not a Mac basher, but I happen to LIKE my so-called "crappy bug-ridden OS". I also like my Mac mini. There is room enough for people to like BOTH Windows and the Mac, and neither operating system is perfect... they both have their flaws.

When you stoop to insulting Windows, you become no better than the Mac bashers on c-net.
Well said. :)

mfacey
Feb 2, 2005, 02:47 PM
Too bad it's only for Windows, and therefore no competition for iPhoto because it's not Mac OS X compatible.

... which was sort of the reason the thread was started in the first place... :p

jeremy.king
Feb 2, 2005, 02:51 PM
iPhoto NEEDS the ability let you store you photos in a different location, like iTunes.

It can - learn more about symbolic links and you will understand.

edesignuk
Feb 2, 2005, 03:14 PM
It can - learn more about symbolic links and you will understand.
I think the point is you shouldn't have to learn to "hack" the system to perform a basic function. It should be a simple, one click option from within the application preferences.

clayjohanson, I agree too. Good to see another balanced member floating around :)

Having said that, the people who wrote the two reviews that this thread is about, are talking out of their arse.

jeremy.king
Feb 2, 2005, 03:18 PM
..."hack" the system...

I call it customizing ;) Ahhh, behold the power of UNIX

edesignuk
Feb 2, 2005, 03:20 PM
I call it customizing ;) Ahhh, behold the power of UNIX
hehe, yeah, I know, it's not rocket science. But it's not something your new Mac Mini switcher will have the first clue about how to do.

jeremy.king
Feb 2, 2005, 03:36 PM
hehe, yeah, I know, it's not rocket science. But it's not something your new Mac Mini switcher will have the first clue about how to do.

True, but that switcher probably wouldn't have a need to "move" their music folder either - they are just "AOL users" anyway ;)

varmit
Feb 2, 2005, 03:48 PM
True, but that switcher probably wouldn't have a need to "move" their music folder either - they are just "AOL users" anyway ;)

That is true too. That people just store things where they are told to store. Only knowledge able users decide to place their files in another folder. Like my parents, new to the mac, taking it up well. But they dont care where the music files get stored, as long as they show up in iTunes. They don't really care about changing any defaults like these.

cb911
Feb 2, 2005, 03:51 PM
yeah man i hate Mac bashers...

as well as those Mac Zealots and PC bashers.

everyone's got to realise that a Mac and PC both have their places. most people probably think of Windows as a "crappy OS" because of all the security holes (fair enough. but if you knew how to properly administrate your system...) and because it seems to run like a dog. well after average Joe puts all his worthless useless apps full of spyware and virii on there, it's no wonder. but i've seen complete Mac newbs with a brand new iBook, and fresh install of OS X, and somehow they seem to get it trashed up real quick...

Jalexster
Feb 2, 2005, 03:54 PM
Could you use this "switching" thing to, say have iTunes use the music and libarary currently stored on my WinXP box? Could it access it over SMB?

iTunes uses the same file on both platforms for storing music information, right?

mfacey
Feb 2, 2005, 04:13 PM
Could you use this "switching" thing to, say have iTunes use the music and libarary currently stored on my WinXP box? Could it access it over SMB?

iTunes uses the same file on both platforms for storing music information, right?


I think what they meant by "switching" was the act of switching from being a windows user to being a mac user ;)
see http://www.apple.com/switch/

You can access an itunes library on a local network. All you have to do is share you itunes library (its in the preferences somewhere) on you winxp machine and then tell itunes on your mac to search for other libraries on the network. Easy as that!

xsedrinam
Feb 2, 2005, 06:27 PM
I'm not a Mac basher, but I happen to LIKE my so-called "crappy bug-ridden OS". I also like my Mac mini. There is room enough for people to like BOTH Windows and the Mac, and neither operating system is perfect... they both have their flaws....When you stoop to insulting Windows, you become no better than the Mac bashers on c-net.

I think this is closer to the crux. Sure, I've taken hits from uninformed bashers over time, (surprisingly the most poignant from hostile tech people who've had to run my presentations), but I've also beat the drum for "both and", "inclusive" mindedness. That's why I'm trying to learn XP as well as Linux in order to bridge rather than isolate. Our whole family and offices are outfitted with Apple machines, and we have answers for why. But bashing by any other name is still old school, regardless of the direction from which it comes.
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Disko
Feb 2, 2005, 11:45 PM
I don't worry too much about this mac bashers. They can continue using their crappy bug-ridden OS.
Exactly. I like to think of it as digital darwinism. :cool:

maya
Feb 3, 2005, 12:08 AM
I have no idea as to why people resort to bash a competing company and (or) product. If you like something great, spread the good cheer if not just keep it to yourself. You do not represent the company that is why companies market they products and services to consumers, why do consumers see fit to do it for free. If its in accords to x86 or PPC you get these FAN CLUBS where people do not know where to draw the line.

They sound like teenagers with an issue to downplay and insult others for they choices. The best advice is:

If you have nothing good to say, just ignore it.

Many people including myself at times have a hard time ignoring garbage that is spewed out by some individuals that just gets on your last nerve. Oh well I still have a way to go to become a better human. :o :)

Mav451
Feb 3, 2005, 12:34 AM
Dang, Picasa is incredible. I guess I learn something from this thread after all haha.

*edit*
I added some pics online for my Mac friend to see. I figured I would let you guys see it too:

http://wam.umd.edu/~ahuang/picasa2-PNG.PNG
http://wam.umd.edu/~ahuang/picasa3-PNG.PNG

Timelessblur
Feb 3, 2005, 01:38 AM
I have to agree it is one sweet program. from this thread I also learned about it and it made me my new back ground out of a bunch of pictures that I have. I have to say it is very nice and I like my new back ground

brap
Feb 3, 2005, 01:59 AM
Dang, Picasa is incredible.
Looks familiar.

Can't quite place it, though.

Jalexster
Feb 3, 2005, 10:48 AM
Could you use this "switching" thing to, say have iTunes use the music and libarary currently stored on my WinXP box? Could it access it over SMB?

iTunes uses the same file on both platforms for storing music information, right?

Damn, I meant symbolic links. And library sharing isn't an option. Others use the computer, iTunes can't stay open. Besides my older brohter insists on restarting it every time before he uses it. Thinks it makes it go faster. I don't seem to be able to change his mind.

Anyway, I stated the wrong thing. Sorry. How would I go about using a symbolic link to make iTunes use the library file and the MP3s stored on the SinXP box with SMB sharing? I want iTunes to use that library file, so it stays in sync on both computers.

oingoboingo
Feb 3, 2005, 03:57 PM
Looks familiar.

Can't quite place it, though.

LOL, yeah...I think I've seen it somewhere before too. :D

At least this one is free, not $79.

mikepctp
Feb 3, 2005, 06:18 PM
I really wish these guys would give some well-supported critisism. Then I would maybe be able to take them seriously.

It's simple... they just don't get IT... your lack of seriousness is well deserved by them.

We have 3 PCs and one Mac on a router here at home. I have specific instructions to the family that in case of fire... save the mac and leave the rest. We all know this is for good reason.

MP

acedickson
Feb 3, 2005, 11:35 PM
The main thing I'd like to point out is that it's that individuals opinion about Macs, just as your opinion is yours. So, in theory, neither can be wrong. Anyways, don't let it get to you. The "bashers" are just uninformed, ignorant or possibly both. Let it roll off you like water.

I own Windows machines but I'm going to purchase a 12" PB as soon as I can get my last W2 and file my income tax. I just started using Macs again about 1 year ago after 10+ years and I prefer them. I do, however, only have problems with spyware occasionaly but never viruses. Anyone with any tech knowledge can operate a Windows machine with ease. It's more of a hassle keeping it up to date, protected, and spyware free but Windows machines are useful nonetheless.

Linux is my next endeavor and I look forward to learning it.