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fyrefly
Feb 11, 2011, 01:45 AM
CNET says so...

And the post's author Brooke Crothers has been a big MBA guy since the beginning.

Would make sense, given that the ULV Sandy Bridge chips should be around by then, and the Sandy Bridge Graphics are at least as good as the 9400m.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20031434-64.html

Wonder if this thread will keep the "should I buy now or wait?" threads at bay at all? My guess is no. ;)

Hopefully this update brings back the Backlit Keyboard. :D



jfrancis04
Feb 11, 2011, 02:25 AM
Dang it! I just ordered mine last week.

Now I can't decide if I want to open it or just return for a refund. :eek:

rhinosrcool
Feb 11, 2011, 02:37 AM
CNET says so...

And the post's author Brooke Crothers has been a big MBA guy since the beginning.

Would make sense, given that the ULV Sandy Bridge chips should be around by then, and the Sandy Bridge Graphics are at least as good as the 9400m.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20031434-64.html

Wonder if this thread will keep the "should I buy now or wait?" threads at bay at all? My guess is no. ;)

Hopefully this update brings back the Backlit Keyboard. :D

I love it! There will be great deals on the Airs that are sold so that many current users can upgrade. I can wait 3-4 months (if it really does happen).

jfrancis04
Feb 11, 2011, 02:43 AM
What do you guys suggest? I'm seriously at a loss what to do.

I just ordered a 13in, 4GB RAM, 128 Flash HD. I'm so pumped about getting it next week! With this news though, I'm pretty sure I'd definitely want to upgrade in June.

shazzam
Feb 11, 2011, 02:58 AM
Personally not tempted in the least.

garychen529
Feb 11, 2011, 03:16 AM
I guess they will definitely use the new Intel CPUs:)

tom vilsack
Feb 11, 2011, 03:20 AM
What do you guys suggest? I'm seriously at a loss what to do.

I just ordered a 13in, 4GB RAM, 128 Flash HD. I'm so pumped about getting it next week! With this news though, I'm pretty sure I'd definitely want to upgrade in June.

there's always something better in a few months...if you need it...buy it now.

torbjoern
Feb 11, 2011, 03:36 AM
That just means that the Air will get lousy graphics because of the Intel/Nvidia licensing issues.
So if the rumor is true, that's a reason to buy the MBA 13" now, and NOT wait.

leowyatt
Feb 11, 2011, 03:40 AM
I decided to buy my Air in December and regardless of what gets released in the summer I won't regret my decision. I'll have got 7-8 months of use out of it before the newer ones are released and currently it does everything I need.

Hands Sandon
Feb 11, 2011, 06:07 AM
Will this mean the 11.6 will stream 1080p video, from say Netflix, to an external monitor better, or worse?

aniketroxx
Feb 11, 2011, 06:11 AM
lol i think 320m is much powerful than sucky intel graphics :cool:

MacRumorUser
Feb 11, 2011, 07:10 AM
Will this mean the 11.6 will stream 1080p video, from say Netflix, to an external monitor better, or worse?


Probably worse or at least 'no better'.....


OSX is tailored to offload a lot of tasks to the gpu, and likewise many applications (photoshop etc...) The GPU in the current MBA is better than the integrated graphics in the SandyBridge ULV models.

Therefore any gain the processor switch earns, is also then hit with the burden of lesser graphics performance. Overall it may balance out, but I doubt it will better the current gen.

The only benefit you may have is increased battery life, though I doubt it will be dramatic.

impulse462
Feb 11, 2011, 07:20 AM
Probably worse or at least 'no better'.....


OSX is tailored to offload a lot of tasks to the gpu, and likewise many applications (photoshop etc...) The GPU in the current MBA is better than the integrated graphics in the SandyBridge ULV models.

Therefore any gain the processor switch earns, is also then hit with the burden of lesser graphics performance. Overall it may balance out, but I doubt it will better the current gen.

The only benefit you may have is increased battery life, though I doubt it will be dramatic.

This exactly. Snow Leopard uses OpenCL to offload tasks to the GPU when doing things such as viewing 720p or 1080p video.

While the IGP for Sandy Bridge will be *decent*, it won't compare to the 320M that is currently in the macbook airs.

fyrefly
Feb 11, 2011, 09:22 AM
This exactly. Snow Leopard uses OpenCL to offload tasks to the GPU when doing things such as viewing 720p or 1080p video.

While the IGP for Sandy Bridge will be *decent*, it won't compare to the 320M that is currently in the macbook airs.

Sandy Bridge is supposedly OpenCL compatible... so if Apple and Intel can come up with some decent drivers, Sandy Bridge could in theory offload stuff to the GPU properly as well.

fyrefly
Feb 11, 2011, 09:23 AM
What do you guys suggest? I'm seriously at a loss what to do.

I just ordered a 13in, 4GB RAM, 128 Flash HD. I'm so pumped about getting it next week! With this news though, I'm pretty sure I'd definitely want to upgrade in June.

This is just a rumor... tho it fits with both the intel and Apple road maps.

I'd say if you need the 13" Air now, use it and love it. It's a great computer. If you don't need the 13" Air now, and you CAN wait... then why not wait? Only thing is... June is still 5 months away. Do you have a computer to use in the meantime?

axu539
Feb 11, 2011, 09:34 AM
It's too early for rumors to actually start getting accurate. For those who are feeling a little bitter about this news because we just bought current MBAs (myself included) understand that the performance increase in the Airs won't be nearly as pronounced due to the GPU downgrade from 320m to ULV SB graphics, which I assume are worse than the graphics in regular voltage SB. Plus, 5 months from now is a long time. If you just got a new Air, enjoy it :). If you really need to upgrade when SB MBAs come out, sell your current one and upgrade. MBAs always did well in resale.

Funkymonk
Feb 11, 2011, 09:39 AM
Apparently sandy bridge graphics are on par with the current nvidia found in the airs now. Alone with that it should give better battery life and run cooler. This is a great upgrade and I'm sure apple would put other things as well. Possibly amd discrete graphics too?

KPOM
Feb 11, 2011, 09:40 AM
Dang it! I just ordered mine last week.

Now I can't decide if I want to open it or just return for a refund. :eek:

I wouldn't bother waiting. My guess is that this would be primarily for cost, supply, and PR more than performance. A low-voltage Sandy Bridge processor would have more CPU performance but slightly less graphics performance. However, the supply of C2D chips is dwindling, and so Apple needs to upgrade to the Core i-series eventually.

Enjoy what you have. You can always get something better or cheaper if you wait. It's technology.

Hellhammer
Feb 11, 2011, 09:44 AM
Sandy Bridge is supposedly OpenCL compatible... so if Apple and Intel can come up with some decent drivers, Sandy Bridge could in theory offload stuff to the GPU properly as well.

Sandy Bridge IGP does not support OpenCL. However, it does support QuickSync (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/8) which is much better for video playback than even high-end desktop GPUs. If Apple or some 3rd party software will support that, video playback shouldn't be an issue

KPOM
Feb 11, 2011, 09:45 AM
Apparently sandy bridge graphics are on par with the current nvidia found in the airs now. Alone with that it should give better battery life and run cooler. This is a great upgrade and I'm sure apple would put other things as well. Possibly amd discrete graphics too?

From AnandTech's analysis, the Sandy Bridge is on par at low detail tasks. The 320m is still better at higher detail. That said, it is a logical move, and a logical time. Get the new versions out in time for the back-to-school rush.

Funkymonk
Feb 11, 2011, 09:45 AM
I bet it'll have the backlit keyboards everyone was dyiing over too:eek:

BlackMax
Feb 11, 2011, 09:47 AM
Sandy Bridge is supposedly OpenCL compatible... so if Apple and Intel can come up with some decent drivers, Sandy Bridge could in theory offload stuff to the GPU properly as well.

I believe I read on AnandTech that Sandy Bridge will not support OpenCL. Let me see if I can find the article I was reading and post it.

Did you read somewhere else that Sandy Bridge WILL support OpenCL?


Update:

Found it: AnandTech: I don't believe Apple will abandon NVIDIA as a result of Sandy Bridge's vastly improved graphics given SB's lack of OpenCL support (http://www.anandtech.com/show/3876/intels-core-2011-mobile-roadmap-revealed-sandy-bridge-part-ii/2).

Hellhammer
Feb 11, 2011, 09:50 AM
I believe I read on AnandTech that Sandy Bridge will not support OpenCL. Let me see if I can find the article I was reading and post it.

Ultimately, Sandy Bridge’s IGP is far more capable than many would have expected. Sure, it doesn’t even try to support DX11 or OpenCL, but at least for gaming DX11 is typically too much for even midrange GPUs. Intel uses 114 million transistors in Sandy Bridge on the graphics, which is quite small considering transistor counts on other GPUs. The HD 5470 for example—a chip that is frequently surpassed by HD 3000—has an estimated count of 242 million transistors.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4084/intels-sandy-bridge-upheaval-in-the-mobile-landscape/8

axu539
Feb 11, 2011, 09:51 AM
I believe I read on AnandTech that Sandy Bridge will not support OpenCL. Let me see if I can find the article I was reading and post it.

Did you read somewhere else that Sandy Bridge WILL support OpenCL?

It currently does not support OpenCL but a driver update from Intel COULD change that.

hcho3
Feb 11, 2011, 09:51 AM
That intel graphics card is going to kill the air's performance...

Well, it will get better battery life... probably. But, no. I am not giving up nvidia graphic's card for intel sandy bridge.

Funkymonk
Feb 11, 2011, 09:54 AM
8-10 hours battery life on the 11" and even more on the 13"?


Also its funny to hear the things people say to feel better about their current machines. Lol come on, apple will figure something out and there wont be a downgrade in anything.

2IS
Feb 11, 2011, 10:06 AM
As long as the integrated GPU can handle things like video, which I'm pretty sure it can the perforamnce difference is going to be rather large, don't kid yourselves. SB MBA > C2D MBA in everything except for maybe gaming.

Either way, i've got my MBA and i'm waiting for IB. Die shrink + better IGP = win.

Buck987
Feb 11, 2011, 10:17 AM
Portability is nothing without battery life.

Lets hope the new 11 will have better battery life. Imagine an air with 13" MBP like battery specs.

Right there is a reason to wait or upgrade. Unless you absolutley need it now.

Might be better to grap a 13" MBP for $999 from refurb site or microcenter. Use it 4 months. Dump it and go for the new air...if battery life is indeed improved.

Interesting times.

hcho3
Feb 11, 2011, 10:24 AM
Given the fact that it took apple over 16 months to upgrade last air. Well...
With intel's graphic card on board. Well...

Also, cnet is a good website, but they reported last time that 13 MBP will get i3 processor in 2010. Didn't happen. Well...

Exciting news...

axu539
Feb 11, 2011, 10:25 AM
As long as the integrated GPU can handle things like video, which I'm pretty sure it can the perforamnce difference is going to be rather large, don't kid yourselves. SB MBA > C2D MBA in everything except for maybe gaming.

Either way, i've got my MBA and i'm waiting for IB. Die shrink + better IGP = win.

Nobody's denying that SB cpu will outshine C2D. But, since MBAs won't be used for seriously CPU intensive tasks anyway, I don't see most people being able to see a difference. On the other hand, if the IGP is worse in performance, that may be noticeable in Lion, which seems to be very graphics dependent. Who knows though.

I completely agree with Ivy Bridge. That's where the real MBA revolution will come.

axu539
Feb 11, 2011, 10:28 AM
Given the fact that it took apple over 16 months to upgrade last air. Well...
With intel's graphic card on board. Well...

Also, cnet is a good website, but they reported last time that 13 MBP will get i3 processor in 2010. Didn't happen. Well...

Exciting news...

This. Also, just the fact that it's a date prediction happening 5 months beforehand seems unlikely to be accurate. Release date leaks usually come out like a month prior.. tops.

Hellhammer
Feb 11, 2011, 10:34 AM
I completely agree with Ivy Bridge. That's where the real MBA revolution will come.

Ivy Bridge IGP will be as bad as the current one when compared to discrete GPUs at that time. IB will be out in 2012 so it sure should beat a 2009 low-end GPU aka GT216.

People used to say Arrandale will be revolutionary. After that it was Sandy Bridge. Now it's Ivy Bridge, and soon it will be Haswell... MBA is an ultra-portable, meaning that it will have compromises. Right now it's the CPU but in the future it might be the GPU. There are different computers for those who cannot live with these compromises.

axu539
Feb 11, 2011, 10:40 AM
Ivy Bridge IGP will be as bad as the current one when compared to discrete GPUs at that time. IB will be out in 2012 so it sure should beat a 2009 low-end GPU aka GT216.

People used to say Arrandale will be revolutionary. After that it was Sandy Bridge. Now it's Ivy Bridge, and soon it will be Haswell... MBA is an ultra-portable, meaning that it will have compromises. Right now it's the CPU but in the future it might be the GPU. There are different computers for those who cannot live with these compromises.

Fair enough. Grass is always greener on the other side :).

DarwinOSX
Feb 11, 2011, 10:41 AM
CNet is not a reliable source for anything. June is total conjecture and does not fit into Apples normal release times. Including when new procs are out. But nobody should be surprised that a computer will at some point get faster better components. If this rumor makes you panic you probably should not be buying computers at all.

CNET says so...

And the post's author Brooke Crothers has been a big MBA guy since the beginning.

Would make sense, given that the ULV Sandy Bridge chips should be around by then, and the Sandy Bridge Graphics are at least as good as the 9400m.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20031434-64.html

Wonder if this thread will keep the "should I buy now or wait?" threads at bay at all? My guess is no. ;)

Hopefully this update brings back the Backlit Keyboard. :D

2IS
Feb 11, 2011, 10:42 AM
Ivy Bridge IGP will be as bad as the current one when compared to discrete GPUs at that time. IB will be out in 2012 so it sure should beat a 2009 low-end GPU aka GT216.

Which will be perfectly acceptable for the majority of mobile users, particularly ones that are looking to be ultra mobile which is the case for MBA owners. The IGP will handle your day to day tasks like accelerated gui and video just as well as a more powerful discrete solution. It may not be able to crank up the latest Call of Duty or Battlefield game up to 1080p with high levels of AA but as long as it can run the games at reduced settings that would be good enough for most.

Hellhammer
Feb 11, 2011, 10:46 AM
Which will be perfectly acceptable for the majority of mobile users, particularly ones that are looking to be ultra mobile which is the case for MBA owners. The IGP will handle your day to day tasks like accelerated gui and video just as well as a more powerful discrete solution. It may not be able to crank up the latest Call of Duty or Battlefield game up to 1080p with high levels of AA but as long as it can run the games at reduced settings that would be good enough for most.

Sandy Bridge IGP can already do that.

hcho3
Feb 11, 2011, 11:04 AM
I wonder what will apple update first...

They updated iMac in last July. They updated MBA in last October.

Cnet is not very credible source with predictions...

Apple might add 13 inch with backlit keyboard... Maybe
But, 11 inch? No.
The battery life will take a serious hit.

2IS
Feb 11, 2011, 11:05 AM
Sandy Bridge IGP can already do that.

Yeah, but I've already got an MBA so I can wait for IB. If I didn't, I wouldn't hesitate to go with SB provided there was some pretty concrete evidence that it was actually going to be available.

Starlights
Feb 11, 2011, 11:31 AM
I am sure people at Apple arent thrilled about this article. True or not - it will slow down their sales for the current MBA...... :)

iRun26.2
Feb 11, 2011, 11:45 AM
Portability is nothing without battery life.

Lets hope the new 11 will have better battery life. Imagine an air with 13" MBP like battery specs.

Right there is a reason to wait or upgrade. Unless you absolutley need it now.

Interesting times.

I think the battery life is pretty darn impressive right now. It is way better than the original MBA. (I'm glad I didn't wait and bought my 11.6 Ultimate three months ago).

Funkymonk
Feb 11, 2011, 11:53 AM
Could this mean in the next pro update the 13" will be killed and because they want a 13" machine to be competitive they will need to update the air line with the newest processors as soon as they can. So by the end of the year they can only have

11" air
13" air
15" pro
17" pro

All with the latest sandy bridge processors and possibly even flash storage. Not complete flash for the pro models though. I also don't see why they can't put discrete graphics in the airs.

calvol
Feb 11, 2011, 02:22 PM
I just received at 13" Ultimate refurb with the slower Toshiba SSD. Should I return and wait for the refresh? From what I am reading graphic performance will be about the same, but CPU tasks will be improved (by how much?) I can use a Dell E4310 until June.

gdeputy
Feb 11, 2011, 02:40 PM
I highly doubt this happens.

I would expect that update in fall, not june. Might happen, but its unlikely.

AppleScruff1
Feb 11, 2011, 02:44 PM
8-10 hours battery life on the 11" and even more on the 13"?


Lol come on, apple will figure something out and there wont be a downgrade in anything.

This.

AppleScruff1
Feb 11, 2011, 02:46 PM
I am sure people at Apple arent thrilled about this article. True or not - it will slow down their sales for the current MBA...... :)

The general public will never even know about the article.

Beaverman3001
Feb 11, 2011, 02:51 PM
I'd never want to depend on intel integrated graphics.

Buck987
Feb 11, 2011, 03:01 PM
I highly doubt this happens.

I would expect that update in fall, not june. Might happen, but its unlikely.

I believe it will happen. As I have said somewhere else....the air has moved mainstream and now are more affordable.

Plus, just in time for prime time back to school buying. Lots of protable computers for next years college freshman class. Why miss that buying season and what for fall. Plus can be added to apples back to school promo.

Based on this I think CNET is correct.

Now, is it worth waiting. Thats still up in the air.

Buck987
Feb 11, 2011, 03:03 PM
Could this mean in the next pro update the 13" will be killed and because they want a 13" machine to be competitive they will need to update the air line with the newest processors as soon as they can. So by the end of the year they can only have

11" air
13" air
15" pro
17" pro

All with the latest sandy bridge processors and possibly even flash storage. Not complete flash for the pro models though. I also don't see why they can't put discrete graphics in the airs.

very possible...

miggitymac
Feb 11, 2011, 03:13 PM
I believe it will happen. As I have said somewhere else....the air has moved mainstream and now are more affordable.

Plus, just in time for prime time back to school buying. Lots of protable computers for next years college freshman class. Why miss that buying season and what for fall. Plus can be added to apples back to school promo.

Based on this I think CNET is correct.

Now, is it worth waiting. Thats still up in the air.

The fact that it's more mainstream doesn't go to the accuracy of any CNET rumour. They were wrong about 2010 MBP and iPad updates and they're just as "mainstream".

IMO, people are just jumping at a chance to either justify their decision not to buy or worry that they bought too soon.

I think that if you've bought one you should enjoy it because they're incredible machines the way they are...and if you're trying to justify not buying one, then you should always wait because improvements and refreshes will always happen...they're just as inevitable as death and taxes. ;)

Buck987
Feb 11, 2011, 03:27 PM
IMO, people are just jumping at a chance to either justify their decision not to buy or worry that they bought too soon.

I think that if you've bought one you should enjoy it because they're incredible machines the way they are...and if you're trying to justify not buying one, then you should always wait because improvements and refreshes will always happen...they're just as inevitable as death and taxes. ;)


Agree.

As in any decision in life you weigh the info before you make the decision.

And you usually like to have a sense of how accurate the info is. In this case I tend to think this info is has a decent chance of being true.

(And I am stating my reasons why I tend to believe this rumor. )

sbb155
Feb 11, 2011, 03:48 PM
dont they have to upgrade the processor if the c2d is not in production anymore? I mean, there is a limited supply then.

Beau10
Feb 11, 2011, 08:27 PM
The fact that it's more mainstream doesn't go to the accuracy of any CNET rumour. They were wrong about 2010 MBP and iPad updates and they're just as "mainstream".


The comment "mainstream" was clearly about the possibility of moving to shorter release cycles, not the validity of CNET. MBP = 208 days avg refresh, MBA = 336, as things currently stand. A June release date would put the MBA approx. 220-250 days since last refresh. Not implausible by any stretch.


IMO, people are just jumping at a chance to either justify their decision not to buy or worry that they bought too soon.


And to your point many people jump in these discussions to say "no way", as a way to justify their purchase as a smart decision.

torbjoern
Feb 11, 2011, 08:33 PM
The comment "mainstream" was clearly about the possibility of moving to shorter release cycles, not the validity of CNET. MBP = 208 days avg refresh, MBA = 336, as things currently stand. A June release date would put the MBA approx. 220-250 days since last refresh. Not implausible by any stretch.

And to your point many people jump in these discussions to say "no way", as a way to justify their purchase as a smart decision.

We have to expect longer refresh cycles for Macs, now that :apple: makes iPads as well.

gonnabuyamacbsh
Feb 11, 2011, 08:43 PM
Man I hope this happens soon so people hate their c2d airs so much they sell it to me for cheap.

torbjoern
Feb 11, 2011, 09:59 PM
Man I hope this happens soon so people hate their c2d airs so much they sell it to me for cheap.

Only spec-whores will do that, and there can't be that many of those who have a MacBook Air in the first place. But good luck finding one - nothing would be better than getting a great, ultraportable Mac from an irrational seller who is desperate to get rid of his/her allegedly outdated computer. It's important to never give a sucker (or a ditz) an even break.


After all - specs DO matter!

jamesryanbell
Feb 12, 2011, 12:36 PM
The CPU difference should outweigh the GPU difference for most people.

Flame away.

holycow
Feb 12, 2011, 12:48 PM
just got an 11" air and man, this thing is awesome. it was just going to be a toy to go along with my macbook, but i think it's going to replace it completely. biggest surprise is how the screen doesn't feel cramped at all.

hopefully when they upgrade the cpu they'll make the storage options 128/256gb for the 11". 256gb + a faster cpu would make this the perfect machine for me. as it is though, i'm still extremely happy.

MacRumorUser
Feb 12, 2011, 01:45 PM
The CPU difference should outweigh the GPU difference for most people.

Flame away.


Yes & No.


Whilst greater CPU processing is welcome, GPU performance is not just limited to gaming.

GPU accelerates iLife, OSX elements, Photoshop etc.

Also whilst we have discrete graphics we are not sharing any onboard memory, unlike integrated graphics.

A 2GB sandybridge chipset will be losing up-to 256mb of memory as it allocates it to the GPU giving you effectively 1.75gb for system as opposed to 2GB in current machines.

Not a major difference, but undoubtably one that will affect base performance even if its only slight. (not a big deal if your upping to 4GB).



As others have said greatest benefit will be battery life.

Currently just writing or browsing the web I get 5-6 hours on my MBA. I imagine a Sandy bridge would get 10% more battery life therefore 6-7 hours.

jamesryanbell
Feb 12, 2011, 01:48 PM
Yes & No.


Whilst greater CPU processing is welcome, GPU performance is not just limited to gaming.

GPU accelerates iLife, OSX elements, Photoshop etc.

Also whilst we have discrete graphics we are not sharing any onboard memory, unlike integrated graphics.

A 2GB sandybridge chipset will be losing up-to 256mb of memory as it allocates it to the GPU giving you effectively 1.75gb for system as opposed to 2GB in current machines.

Not a major difference, but undoubtably one that will affect base performance even if its only slight. (not a big deal if your upping to 4GB).



As others have said greatest benefit will be battery life.

Currently just writing or browsing the web I get 5-6 hours on my MBA. I imagine a Sandy bridge would get 10% more battery life therefore 6-7 hours.

Very good points, but I don't think I'd be jumping the gun to say that most MBA users aren't heavy Photoshop users (at least not on that machine). Maybe I'm wrong, but that'd be my guess. I'd think people would take advantage of the processor speed increase more than the GPU slight decrease in performance.

The extra battery life AND extra CPU performance outweigh everything else for the scope of the machine (in my personal opinion). :)

KPOM
Feb 12, 2011, 01:57 PM
Also whilst we have discrete graphics we are not sharing any onboard memory, unlike integrated graphics.

A 2GB sandybridge chipset will be losing up-to 256mb of memory as it allocates it to the GPU giving you effectively 1.75gb for system as opposed to 2GB in current machines.


The current models have integrated graphics, not a discrete card. We just get a nicer one (NVIDIA 320m). So we still have 1.75GB or 3.75GB of RAM for our applications.

MacRumorUser
Feb 12, 2011, 03:17 PM
The current models have integrated graphics, not a discrete card. We just get a nicer one (NVIDIA 320m). So we still have 1.75GB or 3.75GB of RAM for our applications.

Oh yes didn't realise that it too shared system memory. :o

C64
Feb 12, 2011, 03:41 PM
Man I hope this happens soon so people hate their c2d airs so much they sell it to me for cheap.

I hope people who buy the Sandy Bridge realize they still only use 10% of their CPU 95% of the time and they could've enjoyed the Air all the time already instead of waiting... and waiting... and waiting.

You all know that the Ivy Bridge will follow soon right? It's like 20% faster than the Sandy! I mean, c'mon... you'd have to be a huge fool to buy the Sandy Bridge when it comes out, when Ivy is just around the corner. Don't waste your money!

rococomix
Feb 12, 2011, 05:38 PM
I guess it depends ,how badly one wants it.As with everything apple,you buy,and think safe for a while(normally are),than they update(ipad) before you had time to open the box.

torbjoern
Feb 12, 2011, 06:16 PM
Oh yes didn't realise that it too shared system memory. :o

Most people are not aware of the difference.