View Full Version : She's BACK! The Termibaker
stubeeef
Mar 4, 2005, 07:35 AM
OK, I'll start the BASH Martha Thread. (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20050304/ts_nm/crime_marthastewart_dc) She is out, on the 153 acre New York ranch, soaking up a $900,000 salary while on house arrest, baking cookies (probably pot brownies for her buds at the jailhouse). Now for the important reporting....Stewart wore blue jeans and a fashionable knit poncho over a green turtleneck.
Help me I'm melting .........
Stewart has been busy in prison.
According to her magazine "Martha Stewart Living," she has foraged for dandelion greens to improve the prison fare, whipped up impromptu microwave recipes, taught yoga, read Bob Dylan's autobiography, made a ceramic Nativity scene for her mother and crocheted toy opossums for her dogs.
In anticipation of getting out, she ordered seeds and made to-do lists.
Fans were just as excited. The Web site www.savemartha.com featured a clock counting down the minutes until her release and suggestions for throwing a "Free Martha" party -- Trade recipes and serve a spring-like buffet.
My morbid curiousity will make me watch her upcoming "apprentice" show, I really am tired of the "Lady".
Could probably run a poll on this thread too, those able to, just jump in and do it.
Save Martha Stewart (http://www.savemarthastewart.com/manifesto.shtml) which includes the 7 women march on washington! :D
gwuMACaddict
Mar 4, 2005, 07:40 AM
personally, i'm glad she's out... i think she got a bad rap...
Mr. Anderson
Mar 4, 2005, 08:26 AM
Save Martha Stewart (http://www.savemarthastewart.com/manifesto.shtml) which includes the 7 women march on washington! :D
Ouch, that's a terrible image - you think they could have at least made it a bit better. Its totally photoshopped, too. Even without looking at the details you can tell because its impossible to be the only 7 people in front of the Lincoln Memorial :D
There'd be at least one Park Ranger in that pic :p
I've now wasted more time than I'd ever like to on discussing this, that is all....
D
stubeeef
Mar 4, 2005, 08:28 AM
Ouch, that's a terrible image - you think they could have at least made it a bit better. Its totally photoshopped, too. Even without looking at the details you can tell because its impossible to be the only 7 people in front of the Lincoln Memorial :D
There'd be at least one Park Ranger in that pic :p
I've now wasted more time than I'd ever like to on discussing this, that is all....
D
I didn't make it, dragged it from the site. I think they just wanted to show how insignificant those 7 were. I laughed, thought the premise was pretty funny. :D
Lyle
Mar 4, 2005, 09:14 AM
personally, i'm glad she's out... i think she got a bad rap...I thought so too. Yes, she broke the law, no argument there, but I doubt that the average person on the street calling for her head could tell you exactly what it was that she did. She's just one of those celebrities that people love to hate, and they were glad to see something bad happen to her.
ziwi
Mar 4, 2005, 09:22 AM
I don't like her - think she is a pompous B!tch, but I do think they went after her like a witch hunt - I am positive that there were and still are many many people involved in insider trading - it was a great media coup to get the big name and nail her...oh, well back to 'work' for the ex-con;)
broken_keyboard
Mar 4, 2005, 09:22 AM
I'm glad she's out too. I don't understand why people hate her.
stubeeef
Mar 4, 2005, 09:23 AM
I thought so too. Yes, she broke the law, no argument there, but I doubt that the average person on the street calling for her head could tell you exactly what it was that she did. She's just one of those celebrities that people love to hate, and they were glad to see something bad happen to her.
I respectfully disagree, she originally was investigated for insider trading and then caught lying. While I don't see her as evil, but I do see her as the tip of the iceburg, the only injustice here is that more CEO's have not been convicted of the same and worse. Until the ba$+ards at Enron and Worldcom have rotted in jail for avarice and greed, there will be no justice.
Locally, I am hoping for charges against Mr. Scott Livengood the X-CEO of KrispyKreme who saw the company as his personal bank account too.
virividox
Mar 4, 2005, 09:23 AM
she served her time let her be
RGunner
Mar 4, 2005, 09:25 AM
personally, i'm glad she's out... i think she got a bad rap...
she LIED to Federal Investigators... This is what she was put away for, if this is acceptable in society our whole means of government is tossed out.
Black&Tan
Mar 4, 2005, 09:40 AM
I'm glad she's out too. I don't understand why people hate her.
She is a very vindictive, mean-spirited person. Not at all the person you see on tv.
She actually drove her truck onto the lawn to pin her neighbor between her truck door and the fence separating their properties. She treats her landscaping people as trash, refusing to pay them proper wages; instead taking them to court to classify them as farm help, and therefore not required to pay them Federal minimum wages.
miloblithe
Mar 4, 2005, 09:46 AM
I respectfully disagree, she originally was investigated for insider trading and then caught lying. While I don't see her as evil, but I do see her as the tip of the iceburg, the only injustice here is that more CEO's have not been convicted of the same and worse. Until the ba$+ards at Enron and Worldcom have rotted in jail for avarice and greed, there will be no justice.
Locally, I am hoping for charges against Mr. Scott Livengood the X-CEO of KrispyKreme who saw the company as his personal bank account too.
I agree, but she did serve her time and was lying about a relatively small amount of money. The Enron and Worldcom folks deserve much worse, as do countless other biznismen.
Personally, I don't like her because I find her insipid. But the good feminist in me thinks it's good to have a few powerful women in this country.
gwuMACaddict
Mar 4, 2005, 09:49 AM
she LIED to Federal Investigators... This is what she was put away for, if this is acceptable in society our whole means of government is tossed out.
she commited purjury. so did bill clinton. :rolleyes:
she was convicted of commiting perjury, lieing about a crime that she WAS LATER ACQUITED OF. they didn't press those charges.
it's horseshit that martha goes to jail when enron execs are still on the streets
stubeeef
Mar 4, 2005, 09:59 AM
it's horseshit that martha goes to jail when enron execs are still on the streets
Concur.
RGunner
Mar 4, 2005, 10:00 AM
she commited purjury. so did bill clinton. :rolleyes:
she was convicted of commiting perjury, lieing about a crime that she WAS LATER ACQUITED OF. they didn't press those charges.
it's horseshit that martha goes to jail when enron execs are still on the streets
Point taken, and I agree fully .. these execs are as guilty and should rot in jail just as she did.
I don't even know who she is...time to consult the fountain of knowledge.....
...google
stubeeef
Mar 4, 2005, 11:44 AM
I don't even know who she is...time to consult the fountain of knowledge.....
...google
Martha Stewart Bio (http://www.chiff.com/pop-culture/martha-stewart.htm) Not very indepth but somewhat up to date.
Another Bio (http://www.up4u.net/cs/go/People/MarthaStewartBio)
Google for her BIO (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-08,RNWE:en&q=Martha+Stewart+Bio)
After her IPO for stock MSO (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=mso) she was a billionaire.
Single, divorced, she has was a model and stockbroker when she was younger. People love & love to hate her, she is the homemaking diva of the US. She can make a cake from treebark for all I know.
She was under investigation for insider trading when her friend Sam Wiseman? He supposedly called her to tell her to sell her stock in his company, because the fda was not approving a drug they had in developement. She says she had a standing order to sell at a certain time/point - prosecuters believe she was tipped off. They proved she lied about the coverup, but she was not convicted of insider trading. Ironically the drug I think was approved and the company was/is doing pretty good now.
KingSleaze
Mar 4, 2005, 02:47 PM
she LIED to Federal Investigators... This is what she was put away for, if this is acceptable in society our whole means of government is tossed out.
Hey, didn't William Jefferson Clinton also lie to Federal Investigators? Didn't the majority political party in the Senate (at the time) say it's ok? (essentially)
SFVCyclone
Mar 4, 2005, 03:27 PM
i think martha could be considered HARDCORE now, and she could put a spider web tattoo on her elbow too! :)
QCassidy352
Mar 4, 2005, 04:09 PM
They definitely went after her... people say that the rich and famous get away with things, and I think that in this case, the prosecutors were out to show that that wasn't going to happen so they went too far in the other direction.
I mean, convicted of lying about a crime that she wasn't convicted of committing in the first place? Sounds like something that the D.A. on "Law and Order" would come up with. :rolleyes:
wdlove
Mar 4, 2005, 04:30 PM
I think that we are wasting too much time on Martha Stewart. She shouldn't be able to profit on her criminal status. All this is just going to feed on her already very large ego.
pubwvj
Mar 4, 2005, 04:33 PM
our whole means of government is tossed out.
Yes. And your point?
Daveway
Mar 4, 2005, 04:50 PM
I wonder who will be the first major network to get an interview. I'm thinkin Barbara Walters or Diane Sawyer. :D
Dr. Dastardly
Mar 4, 2005, 11:01 PM
i think martha could be considered HARDCORE now, and she could put a spider web tattoo on her elbow too! :)
Oh if they had that on an episode I would Tivo the hell out of it. :D
acedickson
Mar 5, 2005, 12:20 AM
Here's what I find disguting. Martha Stewart goes to jail for insider trading while Michael Jackson is on his second go around fo child molestation in which he'll probably get off again. Even though she broke the law she didn't hurt anyone and repectfully served her time. I personally think she's arrogant (on TV)
but that has nothing to do with it. She's just now getting out and already people are all over her.
Let her be.
What'd she ever do to you?
Lacero
Mar 5, 2005, 12:23 AM
This is just her punishment for being more successful than the men who put her away. 5 months imprisonment and 5 months house arrest for insider trading and then trying to cover it up? More tax payer dollars were spent for her trial and incarceration than what she defrauded. A 2 million dollar penalty would have been more than enough.
acedickson
Mar 5, 2005, 12:23 AM
I think that we are wasting too much time on Martha Stewart. She shouldn't be able to profit on her criminal status. All this is just going to feed on her already very large ego.
She wouldn't be the first or the last.
CorvusCamenarum
Mar 5, 2005, 04:01 AM
I think that we are wasting too much time on Martha Stewart. She shouldn't be able to profit on her criminal status. All this is just going to feed on her already very large ego.
That's part of the American Dream...it's the commandment right after spend 10% more than you earn and sue thy neighbor.
I'm glad she's out too. I don't understand why people hate her.
I don't see why people care.
m-dogg
Mar 5, 2005, 10:13 AM
I don't think they ever should have put her in jail - A much better sentence would have been to have her help benefit society through community service. They could have had her teach classes to aspiring female businesswomen or something like that. It certainly would have been more productive than us paying for her to spend time in 'Camp Cupcake' after all...
I don't know - If I owned stock in a company and then heard that it's price was going to plummet the next week, I would probably try to sell it too. I know that is wrong, but honestly...
Why aren't they focusing on the Enron's of the world that have decimated the retirement savings of so many average joes?
iGary
Mar 5, 2005, 12:48 PM
This is pretty silly.
She got convicted, served her 5-month prison term, will complete her house arrest (and what difference does it make if that happens to be in a huge estate house - while being paid) and be done with it.
That's how it works. You go on trial, if you are convicted you get sentenced, you are punished, and then free to go about your business (unless parole).
Thomas Veil
Mar 5, 2005, 01:59 PM
I'm a lot more worried about the criminals in the White House than I am about Martha Stewart.
Lacero
Mar 5, 2005, 02:20 PM
Ohhh, let's not go there please. :rolleyes: I'm actually quite fond of Martha Stewart, even though there are reports of her "bitchiness". She's a great business person, smart, and at one time, a very attractive woman.
SFVCyclone
Mar 5, 2005, 05:25 PM
Why is there so much hating on martha? i think she can be more respectable now that she went through that jail even though it was minimum security, i bet some of the inmates will even miss her and she will miss some of them. To me it just brings her down more to the common person by doing that. before i thought she was real cheesy but now she has somewhat gone through what some people would fall apart on and she didn't, i bet she will be even bigger than before now.
Bibulous
Mar 5, 2005, 06:24 PM
Martha, do your time but make that dime, that’s why America is great.
I like Martha, would like to meet her, but I don’t buy her crap.
Frozone
Mar 6, 2005, 05:28 PM
Everyone should back off of Martha. I hope she kicks EVERYONE's ass who spit on her while she was down. Everyone LOVES to hate big people in the media, espically people who come off as slightly b..... I LOVE her attitude and think she'll make it bigger than ever and hopefully kick ass.
stubeeef
Mar 6, 2005, 05:43 PM
Everyone should back off of Martha. I hope she kicks EVERYONE's ass who spit on her while she was down. Everyone LOVES to hate big people in the media, espically people who come off as slightly b..... I LOVE her attitude and think she'll make it bigger than ever and hopefully kick ass.
You should buy stock on monday.
azrussell132
Mar 6, 2005, 08:45 PM
not only is SHE out...but mark my words Omnimedia will once again become one of the most valuable SELF MADE companies in this country. Don't count her out....a woman or man that is a self made billionaire is nothing short of a Genious in my book. Marha ROCKS and so does my Omnimedia stock...(purchased at 8.00 per share).
stubeeef
Mar 6, 2005, 09:27 PM
not only is SHE out...but mark my words Omnimedia will once again become one of the most valuable SELF MADE companies in this country. Don't count her out....a woman or man that is a self made billionaire is nothing short of a Genious in my book. Marha ROCKS and so does my Omnimedia stock...(purchased at 8.00 per share).
the company sees sales sliding going forward, is losing money, and martha can sell stock for the first time in a long time on monday, the price will start dropping.
martha is a survivor, while not my favorite personality, I will see how her life altering experience changes her. I think I just lump her in with the rest of the avarice and greed ceo group, and that group makes my angry as h*ll.
Lacero
Mar 6, 2005, 09:32 PM
I love her Martha Living TV shows. They are pretty good. I have not had the urge or desire to entertain my friends with velvet ribbon bouquets and white chocolate powdered rice cakes, but as entertainment, it's right up there. Sometimes I am delighted, other times, I feel totally empowered by all the possibilities of finely corseted napkins, etc.
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