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wwooden
Apr 10, 2005, 10:21 AM
Hey guys, this is my first time entering this part of the forum to post something (I love the thread about the tablet!). Anyways, I found an old Powerbook 170 in our barn and i am curious as to what operating system it ran. I am also curious as to how I can get a copy of it. It starts up but it only gets to the point where it is flashing the folder icon, so there must not be anything on the harddrive. Thanks guys. I would love to get this thing going again and put Sim City back on it because I have great memories of playing it the back seat of my dads car, that blew me away at the time.



yellow
Apr 10, 2005, 11:57 AM
It cam with OS 7.0.1, the best it could run was OS 7.6.1. Where can you get that stuff? eBay. That's about it. That Mac was discontinuted over 12 years ago. I'd be wary that it's not lacking an OS, but that the hard drive is toast.

wwooden
Apr 10, 2005, 12:05 PM
It cam with OS 7.0.1, the best it could run was OS 7.6.1. Where can you get that stuff? eBay. That's about it. That Mac was discontinuted over 12 years ago. I'd be wary that it's not lacking an OS, but that the hard drive is toast.

If the harddrive is toast, it's no big deal. It's still fun to show my friends the computer. Thanks for the info.

cubist
Apr 10, 2005, 12:07 PM
I think you can download 7.5 from Apple. Copies of 7.6 are plentiful in eBay and flea markets too, tho. The 170 is black & white, right? But it is a sharp, bright screen.

As long as you're on eBay, you might look for another older powerbook so you can swap power adapters, batteries, etc.

If machines are stored in non-temperature-controlled areas, like barns, they experience bad thermal cycling each morning, including condensation which causes rust and corrosion. I'm surprised it works at all. I agree with yellow that the hard drive, and the floppy drive too, are probably ruined.

RacerX
Apr 10, 2005, 12:20 PM
Here are a few things that could be helpful...Boot/Tools floppies for System 7.5.3 (actual disk image) (http://home.wanadoo.nl/manual.man/disk_tools1_753.bin)
Installation set for System 7.5.3 (directory) (http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.3/)
System 7.5.5 update (directory) (http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/System_7.5.5_Update/)
You'll need a Mac with a floppy drive and a lot of floppies (about 25). You may also need an older version of Disk Copy (http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/) to move the images onto the floppies.

yellow
Apr 10, 2005, 02:09 PM
My bad, I completely forgot that you could download the older OS'. Thanks for the links and the reminders!

The downloads and also updates can also be found here:

http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html

Nermal
Apr 10, 2005, 06:59 PM
To test the drive, it's probably best to download 7.0.1 (http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.0.x/System_7.0.1.smi.bin), as it's much smaller than 7.5 (Apple's server is slow!)

RacerX
Apr 10, 2005, 07:34 PM
To test the drive, it's probably best to download 7.0.1 (http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.0.x/System_7.0.1.smi.bin), as it's much smaller than 7.5 (Apple's server is slow!)
Then he'll need the System 7.0.1 boot/tools floppy (ftp://ftp.cc.utexas.edu/microlib/mac/system/701-images-1400k/disk-tools.hqx).

(Why Apple doesn't include these I don't know! :eek: )

Nermal
Apr 11, 2005, 12:28 AM
Huh? It's included in that archive I linked to (it's the Disk Tools file).

Mechcozmo
Apr 11, 2005, 12:56 AM
You can also mount all 19 images of 7.5.3, burn them to a CD on your computer, and then use the System 7.5 Network Access Floppy Disk (on that website of stuff) to install off of the CD.

Of course, that is if you have a CD drive.

You may just need to use 19 floppies... or 2 floppies. 1 is for Disk 1 and the other you keep formatting over and over and over again with 2-18. I've done that with a Windows 3.11 install. :eek: Not fun.

RacerX
Apr 11, 2005, 04:09 AM
Huh? It's included in that archive I linked to (it's the Disk Tools file).
Oh, I just remembered there not be any with the 7.5.3. I had never checked out the 7.0.1 as I already had that System.

:rolleyes: Learn something new everyday.

Nermal
Apr 11, 2005, 04:23 AM
The 7.5.3 installer on Apple's site is a mess. It's easier to download 7.5 (I've seen it on ftp.zip.com.au) then update it to 7.5.3 (and then to 7.5.5).