View Full Version : anybody blown away???
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 02:22 PM
prepare to be blown away...
where no pc has gone before...
bigger, even by our standards...
beyond the rumor sites... way beyond...
who thought this was clever. i did. heres why. I was blown away!!! I couldnt beleive how bad the new products sucked. That blew me away. iphoto??? Who cares? Thats not revolutionary, kodak (who is supplying all those services) has been doing that for years now. And the iMac? Don't get me started. I think ill put one in my 4 year olds room and use it as a night light! "Bigger by even our own standards? A big pile of crap maybe!! Beyond the rumor sites??? Yup it was far beyond those (SARCASM).
And where no PC has gone before???? MY HOUSE... TIME FOR SOMETHING BETTER!!!!
xelterran
Jan 7, 2002, 02:29 PM
http://a772.g.akamai.net/7/772/51/797cb0ef1a5094/www.apple.com/uk/imac/images/indexfamily01072002.jpg
how can you say that is not awsome? or are you just another wintel user...
agreenster
Jan 7, 2002, 02:29 PM
I really dont like your attitude, but I really agree with you.
Say it nicer, and people might actually listen to you. If you feel cheated, like I do, then its a legit reason to post. If you are just a blowhard, and like to yell, then you do nothing but make yourself look jerky, which lends no credence to your stand.
PS: wheres the wireless mouse and keyboard?
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 02:33 PM
For some reason I expected more, perhaps that is my own fault. I don't love computers the way many of you do. Working with customers on a daily basis makes one realize how ignorant the average computer user really is. And I probably would never have cared if the hype hadn't been pushed to such high levels. Personally I feel that when someone walks into my house and looks at my things I want them to be in awe. When they look at my PB G4 they say "wow" and are in awe. If I had a new iMac they would look at it and say "Awe crap, what the hell is that thing??"
agreenster
Jan 7, 2002, 02:36 PM
Totally agree. I have swayed so many people toward Apple because of my Ti Powerbook. Now, I dont want them to see the iMac. I cant believe that the marketing people, who saw the success of the TiBook, agreed to put the iMac into production!?!?
agreenster
Jan 7, 2002, 02:37 PM
And yes, the hype was through the roof. One of my posts before MWSF was about hype, and how everyone was going to be dissapointed. Damn, I hate being right.
evildead
Jan 7, 2002, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by SomeAppleGuy
For some reason I expected more, perhaps that is my own fault. I don't love computers the way many of you do. Working with customers on a daily basis makes one realize how ignorant the average computer user really is. And I probably would never have cared if the hype hadn't been pushed to such high levels. Personally I feel that when someone walks into my house and looks at my things I want them to be in awe. When they look at my PB G4 they say "wow" and are in awe. If I had a new iMac they would look at it and say "Awe crap, what the hell is that thing??"
Well, you are a Tech Support guy. I can see were your anger comes from. It is the sad truth about the real average computer user. I have a buddy that works for MS. He had to call me (the MacHead of the group) to come over and help hime because is A dive was broken and he needed to get some very time sesitive files off a flopy. It turns out that he was trying to jam the floppy in back words. I can only emagin the kind of people you have to deal with. I mean.... he workes for MS!!
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 03:35 PM
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did i mention thats funny?
I deal with that all day and I could tell you stories for hours.
GigaWire
Jan 7, 2002, 03:46 PM
800 MHz PowerMacs. 800 MHz iMacs. At the same time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
evildead
Jan 7, 2002, 03:48 PM
He wears XP t-shirts and tells me how crappy Macs are all the time. When He comes over he makes fun of my iMac for not having a flopy dirve. I like to tell him that "the iMac is perfict for you... at least you couldnt get a flopy jammed in it the wrong way in it" He is intertaining. He reads the promo junk that he is supposed to know for MS (he is a sales rep) And he spouts it off like he knows something about computers and tries to "educate me" about technology. I like to mess with him. I sent him a jpg of the blue screen of death over AIM When he downloaded it and opended it he freeked out. He then messaged me and yelled that I gave him a virus and that I crahshed his computer. I guess he didnt know that if you could still instant message some one... chanes are your computer is still running.
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 03:56 PM
I know many people like that. For both PC and Mac. Sad thing is I work with many AppleCare (Experts?) that act the same way. It's hard to find talent these days. Especially at the low levels of tech support. The good ones move on to bigger and better things.. Which reminds me.. what the hell am I still doing there??
: )
Obsidian
Jan 7, 2002, 04:40 PM
The only real revolutionary product that apple has come up with yet is the original iMac.
None of the applications that they have made yet are what I would call revolutionary, except iDVD. iDVD is the FIRST EVER home DVD authoring application, and has sparked similar programs all around the market. For instance, HP has been busy copying apple, and they will soon release their own kind of DVD-R (they might have already).
As for iPhoto, you may not think it revolutionary, or all that useful, but MANY will. I have never seen a photo sorting application ever before, or one that can sort albums, crop, edit, and print all in one! Sure, you could always go to the Kodak website and order photos or albums, but its a very lardge hassle because you have to upload individual items, and quite ofter, have orders screwed up. But now, cheaper than ever before, you can EASLY with one click, order entire albums, or individual prints, and have them delivered to your door in a week. THat totally eliminates having to hasstle with finding hidden links and the worry of making incorrect orders.
I give two thumbs up for everything that apple announced today, except another two down for the neglect of the pro-line.
hopefully you do not have any other quarrels with this stuff, because ive shut you down in more than two threads already, SomeAppleBoy :) :) :)
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 04:46 PM
I could go on and on. Like how lame Lucas's little speach was. He could have atleast said "I have a bad feeling about this"! haha i crack myself up some times.
Anyway I did not know the point of all this was to shoot eachother down? You have your opinions and I have mine. My opinions juts happen to be better.. is that my fault?
haha
i think im about done today.. i need to get outside!
Obsidian
Jan 7, 2002, 04:55 PM
lol SAB. the point of this was not to shoot others down, it was to make you realise that it was not to shoot others down. you get agoldstar :)
I would go outside, but I am in my housecoat, and its an absolute downpar outside. I wish it was snowing so I could use my new snowboard. (and yes, I am in canada, and its as warm here as it is in texas right now, if not warmer.)
lol again, sab, that would have been great if lucas said
"the only reason this is a movie is because apple helped us. if not for the animated characters, we might have had to use homeless people for actors."
(homeless people because good actors dont want to be viewd as the guy in the crappy star whatchamacallit wars movie/
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 05:05 PM
hey i like the homeless idea. homeless wars?? attack of the drunks? imaging the final scene (where we all know there will be a large battle of ships, and another in a building with light sabres) imagine if they are all drunk. especially yoda!! that would be worth 8 bucks. this time luke skywalker takes too many tequila shots and cuts off his own hand. the queen gets so drunk everyone has their way with her and we never really know if anakin is the father or not. han solo comes back with a ship full of corona and c3po gets so smashed he taps R2D2 and drinks from parts nobody knew he even had. ok so this would probably suck but so will Episode 2 anyway so who cares!!
--- still waiting for the sequel to SPACE BALLS!!!
Obsidian
Jan 7, 2002, 05:25 PM
well we are at it, why dont we just change the name to star hoars? ;D
evildead
Jan 7, 2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by SomeAppleGuy
I could go on and on. Like how lame Lucas's little speach was. He could have atleast said "I have a bad feeling about this"! haha i crack myself up some times.
Anyway I did not know the point of all this was to shoot eachother down? You have your opinions and I have mine. My opinions juts happen to be better.. is that my fault?
haha
i think im about done today.. i need to get outside!
I think you could use some fresh air.
Space Balls... now THAT was a good movie!
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 06:15 PM
i think your right... wheres my cigarettes?
Obsidian
Jan 7, 2002, 06:22 PM
i think you should stay inside if you are only going out to smoke. fresh air, eh? save your lungs from those tubes of garbage.
(back to the imac :)
i dot particularly think that the imac is good looking; it looks like an e-pliance. I also know without the waiver of a doubt that its designers could have done alot better. but instead of bickering any longer, just accept it. hell, most mac users used beigh boxes at one time or another, my mac is beige. and i still think it looks better than that.
i wanst blown away, but i did not really feel let down, even though there was no speed bump. I think that the speed bump will take place at MW tokyo.
(on the imac topic again, when they wheeled it out, did you hear the people sniggering in the crowd? hehe)
atlascott
Jan 7, 2002, 07:12 PM
First, the new iMac has an elegant, futuristic design. Second, the tech in that "consumer" PC wipes the floor with low end consumer Windows boxes. Finally--Steve is supposed to talk again 2morrow--do not be surprised for more good stuff.
I am a but disappointed that Apple didn't do the tech update of ALL their products (cannot have 800 MHz G4 is low and high end desktops, and you should forget about anything under a 1GHZ G3, cause it CANNOT RUN OSX ACCEPTABLY FAST (referring to the iBook)).
amichalo
Jan 7, 2002, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by SomeAppleGuy
I don't love computers the way many of you do. Working with customers on a daily basis makes one realize how ignorant the average computer user really is.
What is it you do for a living again? I thought I remembered you saying before.
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 07:32 PM
tech support for apple.
eyelikeart
Jan 7, 2002, 07:33 PM
hypocrite
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 07:35 PM
why am i a hypocrite? work at a donut shop and your bound to hate donuts eventually.
Beej
Jan 7, 2002, 07:50 PM
OK, not wanting to change the topic or anything, but I think I'll get back to the point of this thread :)
I can't say I was blown away, but the new iMac is extremely cool, and I think it will be a big hit. Apple has hit the price/form/function combo on the head with this one.
iPhoto is also extremely cool. I'm using it to organise all of my pictures just like I use iTunes ot organise my MP3s. (Now all I have to do is get a Digital camera so I can organise my photos...)
But what about the Pro line? It's been left looking very over-priced and under-powered. I was really expecting at least a bit of a speed bump.
I'm very happy, but I could be happier. I feel like I was expecting to go to bed with two very beautiful ladies, but one stood me up. :(
Beej
Jan 7, 2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by SomeAppleGuy
why am i a hypocrite? work at a donut shop and your bound to hate donuts eventually.
No one could ever hate donuts :D
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 07:56 PM
i love the analogy. however, if you really feel that way about a computer let down you need as much help as i do. perhaps we should check outselves into a free clinic.
Durandal7
Jan 7, 2002, 08:18 PM
Just wondering about the donut analogy, would the donuts be free? Because that would change everything.
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 08:22 PM
the donuts are free if you work at apple.. hehe
nahaliel
Jan 7, 2002, 08:38 PM
not that anyone of you really care about my opinion, nor should you, but i hated the imac when i first saw it. I was praying to dear buddah that the whole Time thing was a scam and it wouldn't look like that. I couldn't believe it, but the more I look at it the more I drool for it. I have been wanting something EXACTLY like that, I kept hesistating to get a cube but i didnt know exactly how I'd work the monitor into my desk. Heh, no problem now. What is up with this "ITS CRAP!!!"?? It's the 2nd fastest G4 processor for sell IN THE CONSUMER MODEL for approx $2000 less than it would of costed you yesterday and a dramatically more stylish package. Get an open mind. Sure, the powermac has 67mhz more and pci slots. Also has giant case with some big noisy fans, giving you more hard drive space. But thats about it (with the exception of the DP 3500$ mode). Oh yeah, they also threw in a 15" LCD and a Superdrive. Hmm, if you ask me, an tru mac fan, or any educated PC user thats a sweet deal. And if you don't care about DVD (playing or burning) you get to cut the price down to $1299 saving $500. Come on, $1299 for no not yesterday's but still TODAY'S $2499powermac.. plus a 15" lcd..
eeehhhh sorry for the rant, but i cant believe any of you can call a 700mhz g4 cube with an awesome 15" monitor for only 1299 CRAP!!
i love it =\
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 7, 2002, 08:51 PM
did they bring back the cube? im sorry i didnt see that one.
GO APPLE!
Gelfin
Jan 7, 2002, 10:17 PM
The analogy I'm drawing here, which may only make sense to a geeky few, is this:
In the world of anime geekdom, there is this little cabal of grumpy geeks who think no anime is worth watching unless it contains deathly serious grim melodrama, ultraviolence and really great mecha animation. They are totally dismiss any of the lighter stuff, as well as the people who watch it. They think of themselves as the COOL nerds, and they're too good for anything that doesn't fit into their little narrow view.
A lot of Mac nerds follow a similar philosophy, like they want their computers to make them look like some sort of badass instead of the Mac nerds they are. To paraphrase a recent Penny Arcade strip, that boat already sailed. Go up to a non-nerd and start explaining to them why the kleenex box is cooler than the lamp and see what reaction you get.
I love my PBG4 to death. It's mercilessly cool, but I also loved the clamshell iBook I had before it, despite any suggestion that I was associated with something sort of (gulp) cute. They're both excellent designs, as is the new iMac. This morning I was just thinking, thank GOD I didn't buy that G4 tower I was thinking about, because now I can have the same thing for about a third of the price, and I can literally put it anywhere. I can see these in people's kitchens (doesn't look much different from a kitchen appliance, really), in their living rooms, not being offensively obtrusive to people's decor, and particularly, I can see them bolted onto pedestals with touch screens as really amazing kiosk devices. Functionally, it's a fantastic design, and it also looks great. It just doesn't look like a computer the way we've come to expect.
Basically, I think some of you need to base your opinions of things on the things themselves, rather than on whether you think other people will take YOU seriously if you own one. But that's just my opinion.
ThlayliTheFierce
Jan 7, 2002, 11:19 PM
Sure they brought back the cube. The cube had:
-A G4 processor
-small footprint
-little expandability
The iMac has:
-A G4 processor
-small footprint
-little expandability
However, it costs less, comes with writeable drives, a monitor, and has no external power supply. They should have called it the G4 Dome instead. I'm not a huge fan of the design, but at least it's freakin' different! Innovation is rarely appreciated at first, but is often venerated later. So thank you, SAG, for showing how revolutionary it really is.
SomeAppleGuy
Jan 8, 2002, 10:54 AM
revolutionary adj 1: markedly new or introducing radical change; "a revolutionary discovery"; "radical political views" [syn: radical] 2: relating to or having the nature of a revolution; "revolutionary wars"; "the Revolutionary era" 3: advocating or engaged in revolution; "revolutionary pamphlets"; "a revolutionary junta" [ant: counterrevolutionary] n : a radical supporter of political or social revolution [syn: revolutionist, subversive, subverter]
Maybe I was wrong.. the term "Revolutionary" can be used easier than I had thought. The iMac is radically different. So that makes it revolutionary. HALLELUJA!! (however you spell it).
WELCOME TO THE REVOLUTION!!!
--its still freakin ugly tho
evildead
Jan 8, 2002, 03:07 PM
I see you went and looked it up. Haha... You realy just dont like the iMac. Maybe you should go and look at one upclose at the Apple store. Who knows.. maybe you will fall in love with it.
... I still think they are cool
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