"SomeMacGuy"

[Limbo]

What kind of Mac user are you. With people like you on our side, Apple wouldn't need cynics. Get some ****ing faith in Jobs, you overly obnoxious dickhead!!! I didnt read all of you're postsbecause I couldn't believe someone who claims the name with "...MacGuy" in it would say anything like what you say. You sound like a PeeCee fag that runs in and out of chat chans and post on boards saying "Macs SUCK!!!!! PC ROXXORZ!"

[nahaliel]

i must agree

[eyelikeart]

I think MacRumors welcomes all sorts of users and personalities...but I think your type of pessimism & cynicism is the type that can ruin a good time for all...

I think this is the type of place where we all should be free to speak our minds, but with some tact.

[agreenster]

Well well.

A straight-up post about bashing a fellow MacRumors member, and without even giving him the oppurtunity to defend himself. Now who's the "overly obnoxious dickhead?" I find your shameless approach to making people view "SomeMacGuy" as a poor poster just as bad, if not worse than what SomeMacGuy has posted. In the legal sense, thats called Libel.

I already mentioned to him that his manner of speaking could be a bit more tactful, but the points he is making are truthful, and valid. Everyone has the right to express their opinion here(like eyelikeart mentioned), just like you do when you bash SomeMacGuy. At least he had something to say about Apple computer in his posts.

Stick around Limbo, and watch your tongue. There may come a day when you find that you actually LIKE SomeMacGuy, but you have burnt the bridge to be able to talk civily with him. There were people I disliked when I first came here, but found that most of them, over time, had the most interesting and valid points. Donlt let yourself be fooled by first impressions.

And, after all, what kind of company would Apple be if they couldnt take some criticism? Companies need that to grow.

Damn. I think I have become Jefhatfield

[ThlayliTheFierce]

Speaking of the Hat man, where is he in all this? I haven't seen him post in a while.

[ThlayliTheFierce]

I'm not for kicking anyone out based on his/her opinions. But I still have a problem with SomeAppleGuy in that all his posts seem to be composed of rants about how much he hates the new iMac, how it looks like a lamp, R2D2, etc. What I would like is an actual argument as to why it sucks so much, and not just "because it's ugly". That just doesn't cut it. Then maybe we can actually debate like adults.

[agreenster]

I think his rage is all bound up with the imac. As soon as he is tired of that, I feel he will run out of things to say. maybe he will straighten out his tone a bit after reading these posts. I think he has some good points, but i really think he would influence people more by saying it politely.

hat is now networkman, and has successfully disappeared. I predict his return mid-march.

[networkman]

i am here, but just with a new handle and a much smaller number of posts next to my new name

[Limbo]

I'm sorry for creating a flame so quikley after registering, but even though I only read a few of his posts ("SomeMacGuy") I was appauled at his hate towards such a wonderful invention of Apple. I suppose people are entitled to their opinion, but if he has such beligerant hate for Macs. Why does he post on a Mac forum? And why is he called "SomeMacGuy"? Alot of people believe being a Mac user to be a religeon. Although I wont get freaky on you with stuff like that, he sounds like a PeeCee user who will openly bash a PC company for poor quality, and spring back at any Mac user for bashing the same people, and thrash the mac, just because, "It's a mac man! Only Fags use Macs!" Like what the hell does that mean?!

[F/reW/re]

Perhaps he was just very dissapointed just like me? (haven`t seen anything he wrote)

This MWSF was WAY behind all rumors so why do apple make us think it`s gonna be way beyond?

[-=AsukA=-]

the new iMac looks nothing like R2D2.... i dont get it, there as closely related as the KKK and Black panthers!

so please tell me when R2D2 got a LCD poping out of its head?

[agreenster]

Nice to see you Networkman--I still suspect you arent the orignial a little, because the true Jef couldnt resist jumping into the forums--but anyway....

SomeMacGuy is an Apple techie, hence his name. And yes, he was dissapointed about MWSF. However, Im starting to think that if Apple REALLY wants to blow our socks off, announcing new hardware today or the days left at MWSF would probably do it.

[dizastor]

get a little blue paint on that base and make it whistle, you've got R2 with an LCD hat.

[SomeAppleGuy]

Can I just say I feel honored that you all would devot an entire subject to me! I truely feel my work is done now. But I'm sure I will think of more things to say. I agree with greenster, hes probably the only intellegence on this forum. (I say that cause he likes me).

Ok to the point. So you bash me because I hate the design and look of the new iMac. Unless deep down inside you hated it too you wouldn't care about what I say. Remember back in school when someone made fun of you because you had zits, or red hair, or maybe you were over weight. It would never have bothered you if you were skinny, blonde, and had a clear face. So instead of telling me how "stupid" I am and that I have not valid argument try to convince me I'm wrong. The design is not natural, its top heavy and looks funky (funky in a bad way). I have never once in my posts said it did not come with alot of features. The iMac comes with alot for the money, I think its a great deal, but I cant stand the way it looks and would never buy one, not even with my Apple Discount. AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE R2D2, they even pointed that out on my local news last night.

Yup, I have a PC, its very old and very slow but I still use it. I also have a PB G4. In the past I have had an iMacSE and the original iBook so dont be telling me I don;t know anything about the product I am bashing.

There, I stayed calm, I made my point.... and I think i accomplished this with no rampage.

But I do want to point out...

THE NEW IMAC IS PHREAKIN UGLY!!!

[eyelikeart]

that was a beautiful response...

my apologies for possibly offending u...

I think we're gonna see a lot from this guy...

[trinitishwar]

<<Nice to see you Networkman--I still suspect you arent the orignial a little, because the true Jef couldnt resist jumping into the forums--but anyway....>>

I'll vouch for networkman, he is jeff. I saw a thread where he switched back and forth between names to write a sentence. As for somemacguy, I too am becoming tired of the complaining. It seems that most of your complaints are concerned with the aesthetics of the new iMac, and as it is written "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". I for one, was a little put off by the design of the machine when I first saw it at 4am, but have now grown to like it. And after having a day to muse over the design cues I now find it quite striking and attractive. So, rather than rant on about how it looks like R2D2 (I can't see the comparison myself) please just accept that other people may like it and get over yourself. And as for your local news I'm not even going to say what I think of people who get their ideas and criticisms for the talking heads on the local news.

[networkman]

i can't wait to see the new imac even though i don't like the design too much but i hope the unit is not top heavy

if the base is heavy enough, then we are ok and since there is so much packed in there, there should be enough weight to hold the computer steady

the stats are very good and just 200 mhz short of amazing but the speed bump to 1 ghz will happen most likely when the tower's top of the line model reaches 1 ghz first which may be in macworld tokyo...one could only hope

there have been some instances where the consumer level mac has surpassed the pro level mac in speed but not features and the 800 mhz g4 in the imac does surpass the 733 mhz g4 in the pro line

the small footprint must have been one of the key design points for the new imac...a much larger base would have been more stable but would have had a large footprint which would not justify getting rid of the old imac except for the new lcd which is better on the eyes

i can't really judge the imac until i see it and try it out

[SomeAppleGuy]

beuty is in the eye of the beer holder?

[trinitishwar]

When I'm holding a beer it's certainly beautiful TO my eye. I don't know about IN my eye.

[evildead]

SomeAppleGuy is just ranting... there is plenty of that, that gos on hear. I have posted here for a While... SomeAppleGuy is tame by some standards. He just doesnt like the new iMac. Hes alowed to hate it all day if he wants. He is new to macrumors and has allready posted like 80 messages in the last few days. Hes a MacHead... just a little bitter at Apple thats all. How many of us hate our parents? And how many of us go home of X-mass anyway. We hate them... but we will allways love them.... in an I hate you kind of a way.

Hey, I know I had fun fighting with him yesterday. I was waiting for some proceses at work to finnish, I had to do something with the time. :)

[SomeAppleGuy]

thats what i'm here for

[iloveMac]

Which name does he go by SomeMacGuy or SomeAppleGuy? Anyway, I have to agree with him in regard to the new imac looks. It's not what I expected in terms of performance to looks ratio (they could have at least put the 867mhz inside). I suspect Steve Job had alot to do with this cooked up design due to his failure of the G4 Cube debut a year ago.

He seem to have a hard on when it come to rolling out new computers and design them in such a way we consumers will slobber over them for the looks.

Well, he should have learned his lesson the last time. And frankly, I'm quite sure its going to happen again. I have read numorous of response in these forums in regard to the release of the new imac and have compiled a list of cons and pros. Guess what?

Hard core Mac users are Pissed. They wanted something more powerful than the current G4 800. They are tired of waiting and so am I. I have been saving during the past 3 months for the so called ( No PC has gone Before ).

In conclusion, I can see why SomeMacGuy or SomeAppleguy became pissed off when he heard and saw the new imac. I don't think its what he expected or I or anyone else. I stayed up night after night and logged on early every morning following apples words to this new imac.

To tell you the truth, I'm very dissapointed, and hope they won't spoil us again with there slogans leading up to future MacWorld conferences. Apple, I wish your marketing folks or you Steve, read each and every comments on these forums to formulate better future release of new products.

[SomeAppleGuy]

THANK YOU ILOVEMAC!!!

You may be the first to to understand my comments fully. Obviously I still like Apple or I would not be complaining. My point here is the off chance that Apple reads this **** and thinks to themselves... hmm.. maybe next time we really should blow them away. How many people out there would pay big money to have the ULTIMATE COMPUTER?? I would. Forget G5, skip to G6! Give us an ungodly amount of ram to play with. Give us a kick ass video card with 2 (yes 2) ADC ports. Give us 300mhz BUSS speeds!! Give me a new imac with the cube underneath instead of half dome. bring back colors and options. give me airport range of 2 miles (its been done with a hack). Give me SUROUND SOUND. A built in Camera for conferencing!! Mac OS X.Z. WIRELESS MICE AND KEYBOARDS. hell, wireless USB! Give me an iPod that mounts onto a side bay and can be used as my boot drive. put a 40 gb drive in iPod. GIVE ME A MAC THAT LOOKS LIKE ANY OF THE MOCK-UPS IVE EVER SEEN!!! MOST OF ALL...

GIVE ME SOME ADVERTISING!!!

I wanna see some gateway bashing... down with DELL!!!!!

nobody knows apple is better.. why??? CAUES THAT IS THE 1 SECRET APPLE IS ABLE TO KEEP!!!

ok im done... tear it up!

[Durandal7]

I guess SomeAppleGuy isn't all that bad. He's convinced me. The only problem that I really ever had with him was that he made 6 threads about the iMac instead of sticking to the 1. His response has redeemd him in my eyes.
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Forgive and Forget

[xelterran]

i understand that people have the right to their own opinions, but i would like to point out that the responses from other non-rumor sites have been more positive about the new imac. Im not criticising this site, because i think you do a great job! but maby people were just expecting too much because of all the rumors floating around.
I have to admit when i first saw the imac i was not really sure about it, but after just a few days im beginning to like it more and more, its one of thoes things that grows on you. Im sure the origonal imac received the same criticism when it was first launched because of its uniquness, but today the imac is concidered one of if not the best looking computer!
I would certainly concider trading in my old 400mhz imac for one of the new flat panel ones, and when the time comes i will also trade in my g4 for a g5...

[iloveMac]

Hey SomeApppleGuy, everything you mention in you last post is what I called "No PC has gone before". As I said before, I have saved 3 months for the supposly new Power Mac I thought would be released at the MWSF 2002 ($6300).

I'm like you, I wanted a powerful system from Apple that would make PC's look like crap. I have read some posting that we will have to wait until MacWorld Tokyo for the introduction of the new G5 processor.

This sound like a bunch of bull having me wait once again and furthemore taunt me with there insane slogans. It won't happen again. I'm truly a devoted Mac user and will always be. However, I'm starting to get fed up with all the PC folks blowing my ass with there kick ass system and here I am left standing in the dark ages. (133mhz sdram, no ATA 100, 15" screens, 800mhz processor to name a few)


Lets talk some more. I hope others will listen on our issues.

[SomeAppleGuy]

exactly. are you my long lost brother? even the PowerMacs (as great as they are) need some major improvements. what they have been doing for the past couple years is improving products little by little. thats fine for those who are already in the business of buying macs. but when you figure every 2 or 3 years you need a major upgrade to keep up with software its not too practical. PCs have the luxury of upgrading for years before the need things like new logic boards or better cases. and if you keep upgrading products "little by little" your never going to surpass "the other guys". by the time G5 comes out it will be living in the shadow of a well established P4 which may even be a P5 by then.

Apple has a way of getting people sucked in, once your an apple customer you become pretty loyal. if they want to ever dream about taking over the market they need to beat the competition. give no room for arguement. Surpass the MHZ barrier and the arguement sways to Apples favor. Wether the speed bump means **** or not, customers will want them. And advertise the hell out of it!!! When was the last time you saw an Apple commercial on TV? I don't think I've ever seen the G4 commercials, other than on Apples own web site.

[iloveMac]

You know what, being you mention TV commercials. My wife just a few minutes ago ask me why she hasn't seen anything or heard on TV about this new Apple imac system.

I honestly couldn't tell her why. I do know this though. You can bet your ass that if they would have came out with some "once again" (No PC has gone before) computer.

Such as, all the features you mention and plus more, Or perhaps something more powerful we could dream of. Then you would problably see Peter Jenning or Tom Brokaw making a special news annoucement.

And if he did do that, I can gaurentee Apple sale would skyrocket the day the millions of consumers will see it without having the luxury of visting Apple's web site or retail stores.

Apple, just think of it. Free advertisment from major news.

WOW i'm good.

Keep talking SomeAppleGuy

[mnkeybsness]

due to the immaturity of all the new and more recent members on this forum, i will be only posting when absolutely necessary. which will probably not be for a long time. i would just like to point out a few things-

you say the imac is ugly numerous times. we have heard your point, but you don't back it up with anything but personal opinion. this must be the worst way to go about getting people to agree with you.

everyone seems to just want to "flame" eachother. u may find that keeping some things to yourself will make you a much happier person.

no one seems to talk about rumors anymore. everyone just wants to know how to do things or where to get things. and the few times that a real rumor actually does come up, it either turns in to an all out war between a select few (i'll admit i joined in a couple times) about absolutely nothing, turns into people saying that's stupid and randomly talking about games, people start saying how terrible apple's marketing strategy is, people whine about things that will never come about:they just dream up something that would benefit themselves because they "can't live witout it," or else they just decide to go and say things like F--- apple, i'm going to buy a PC:and yet they continue to post on this site for apple computers and talk about things that are good about apple. seriously, if you want a pc, and you want to talk about pcs, go buy one and find some new friends.

so this is it to all of you pre-pubescent geeks out there

farewell.........


.........for now

[SomeAppleGuy]

that was nice. really, fantastic even. i think what monkey business is missing here is that there are no rumors and people are bored. if you want us to talk about a rumor make something up. by the way, whats on spymac.com these days.. i hvent been there. as for the immature thing, i am not shoving this down anyones throat. i started "iMac is phreakin ugly" and look how many people responded. i think they feel the need to defend this thing more than those of us who dont like it. calling me a moran and an idiot because i do not like what they like. the sad part is my points are valid. if chevy promised a revolution with the next generation of camaro and told us we would be blown away, and then came out with the same model as last year with a new color you would be pissed off too if you had been waiting at the dealership for them to arrive.

I am just tired of watching a good company following the popular trends when they should be making them. sure they improve things, ipod is better than a standard mp3 player but its not revolutionary. imac has more features than the last, but again not revolutionary. remember the old days when apple used to do **** that "blew people away?" its been a while and i for one am starting to forget. a computer is a computer, nothing more. i wanna see something that makes me excited about computers again.


ps... you dont like people arguing and fighting but yet you close with a sentence like "so this is it to all of you pre-pubescent geeks out there"

[Limbo]

Well, Some...Guy. Looks as though my flame has opened you up a little more clearly. I totally see where you're coming from and can sympathize to your side of thought. But still, though alot of what you speak is true, grab a little more faith. I thought about it, and being with, buying and getting into Apple Computers IS a religeon it would have to be for crazy people like us to stick with it all this time. So basically give Apple a break. And NEVER let your guard down when talking to a PeeCee user. All of you. Peace is declared Some....Guy