Whoa... I beat Chess

[arcobb]

I won a chess game in Tiger! First time ever!... and a second to boot. Seems like the easy to "faster" to “stronger” settings actually mean something now! Before I never ever won a game

Maybe this is one of those 200 features we keep hearing about!?

[MoparShaha]

Wow, that's impressive. I've never heard of anyone beating it. Maybe it's time I take another crack at it.

[killuminati]

I never knew that there was a chess game.

i just searched for it in my finder and I found chess application support, chess speakable items, and chess.plist but I couldnt find the actual app?

[Balin64]

Seriously:

Congratulations.

I've had Chess in check many times but I have never beat it. :o

Maybe I should take another crack at it!

Does anyone else prefer the Jaguar version of Chess? The Panther version was too showy in my opinion...

[Balin64]

I never knew that there was a chess game.

i just searched for it in my finder and I found chess application support, chess speakable items, and chess.plist but I couldnt find the actual app?


hi:

it's in your applications folder. Simple as that!

[Lacero]

I wonder how Kasparov would do against Tiger Chess on the hardest settings.

[mad jew]

:eek: I didn't realise the game was so notoriously hard. I just thought I really sucked at chess. :D

Congratulations!

[Doctor Q]

I wonder how Kasparov would do against Tiger Chess on the hardest settings.He'd blow chess.app out of the water. The Mac would be asking for mercy before you know it. It still takes a specialized computer system, programmed by people who have studied chess-playing computers in research labs and analyzed past games, and with years spent optimizing, to beat the best human chess players in any consistent way. Computers get faster faster than humans get faster, so someday the computer in your wristwatch will be able to beat any human at chess, but as of today chess.app ain't there yet.

[ksz]

As I recall, Kasparov finally lost to Deep Thought or one of its successors. It was not an easy victory for the machine; Kasparov, I think, succumbed to fatigue during the long matches. If he were younger he may have beaten it soundly. However, Kasparov acknowledged that the best computer programs will begin to defeat the best human players consistently within 5 years, turning chess into a "solved problem." Will that reduce chess to a mere mathematical algorithm, a solvable problem, and rob the fun out of the game? Once we figuresd out that tic tac toe can always end in draw or Rubik's cube can always be solved in a programmatic way, we lost interest in those games. Kasparov has publicly wondered whether that might happen to his beloved game as well.

[Josias]

Sorry to brag and revive an old thread, but unless you guys hadn't upgraded to Tiger at the time, and Panthers chess was smarter, I think I'm very good at Chess. I just beat it on hardest in 7 minutes. Wiped out his every piece on the board, except the king. How come?

[beatsme]

I won a chess game in Tiger! First time ever!... and a second to boot. Seems like the easy to "faster" to “stronger” settings actually mean something now! Before I never ever won a game

Maybe this is one of those 200 features we keep hearing about!?

congratulations :D

I'm a fairly competent chess player (or so I think :rolleyes: ), and I reliably get my @ss thoroughly kicked.

[OwlsAndApples]

congratulations :D

I'm a fairly competent chess player (or so I think :rolleyes: ), and I reliably get my @ss thoroughly kicked.

Yeah ditto...it always seems to find some way of wriggling from check :mad: grrr...

[SC68Cal]

This is why I play games like Quake 4 and Defcon......

Chess made me cry.

[XnavxeMiyyep]

To my knowledge, Chess in Tiger, at least at the lowest difficulty, is not as difficult as Chess in Panther or Jaguar. They probably realized it was slaughtering all the average Chess players (like me) and decided to give us a break.

[lazyboy922]

We found Bobby Fisher!

[sysiphus]

Congrats...always fun to win. But as previously stated, it was a better challenge in pervious versions of X. I almost wish I could run an older version on my MBP so I could have a challenge again...

[mcshyd]

I Just beat mac chess on OSX 10.4.8 on the strongest setting, and i'm a little disappointed. I realized that if i open with the kings pawn and go into an early queen gambit, the computer takes it, every time. This leaves me with early control of the center, along with better positioning of my knights. I started at the easiest setting, and kept going up in increments. I figured I would continue to play at the level that beat me first. except, it never did. BOO. I didn't pay 2500 dollars for a computer thats more of an idiot than I am.

[yellow]

I didn't pay 2500 dollars for a computer thats more of an idiot than I am.

I'm assuming this is a joke, since the computer has no bearing on how the application plays chess?

[mcshyd]

yeah, i guess it wasn't funny.

[yellow]

Perhaps you should have purchased a WOPR?
I hear it's pretty good at games.

[mcshyd]

um, that's a ridiculous reference, and I feel ashamed to have gotten it.

[yellow]

Hehehe.. congrats (I think). :)

[satty]

Congratulations :)

What settings did you use?

I prefer to play with Black and use the "Regular" option. In my opinion this program is useless with those settings. However if the computer is playing Black I definitely struggle.

Give this one a try on your Mac:

[ChrisA]

I won a chess game in Tiger! First time ever!...

I've found that too. In the "easy" mode you can pretty much walk through the game and trounce it.

[mcshyd]

I played white with the regular settings. Perhaps I should try one of the variants...

Do you know how the variants change the gameplay?

Satty, you down for a game?

[satty]

I played white with the regular settings. Perhaps I should try one of the variants...

Do you know how the variants change the gameplay?

Satty, you down for a game?

I didn't look too much into the chess application, I didn't touch a chess board for many, many years... some of the options/variants don't play by the standard chess rules (like crazyhouse)... I hate that.

Sorry, mcshyd, I won't play, but I recommend you a very nice, short, easy reading book about two chess players instead: It's called "Schachnovelle" by Stefan Zweig.

[mrkramer]

I've found that too. In the "easy" mode you can pretty much walk through the game and trounce it.

I must be horrible at chess, I can't even beat it on easy.

[mcshyd]

Sorry, mcshyd, I won't play, but I recommend you a very nice, short, easy reading book about two chess players instead: It's called "Schachnovelle" by Stefan Zweig.

why the hesitation? do you no longer play?

[Bali Cockfight]

I tried for awhile to beat chesss, but the day I had the chess application in checkmate, it crashed on me. After that, the application would freeze up every time I had it within a move of checkmate. This was in Panther. I havent played it in Tiger.

Sore loser.

[sushi]

Panther Chess was definitely harder. What is real embarrassing is that I could not beat it, but my wife beat it on her first try -- that's chess mind you. Smart woman.

After reading this thread I decided to try Tiger Chess on the easiest setting. Beat it easily. Wow, what a surprise.

On a side note, I think I just discovered a way to beat Chess every time with the same moves. Works on my PB and PM933. Funny! :)

[mrkramer]

On a side note, I think I just discovered a way to beat Chess every time with the same moves. Works on my PB and PM933. Funny! :)
I want to see what happens when you beat it, so moves please.:D

[sushi]

I want to see what happens when you beat it, so moves please.:D
Hmm...

If I share here, then Apple may change it. :eek:

Let me think a bit on this...

[Max Payne]

I think I'll give it a try. I like chess, but I hate slow programs that take 5 minutes to make a single move. :mad:

[21stcenturykid]

even i can win on easy i couldnt believe it 'cos i tried it once or twice in panther and got nowhere but in tiger on easiest setting i won :D im the worst chess player ever also :P

[sushi]

What the heck, here are the moves that I used.

Note, Chess was on the easiest setting.

[mcshyd]

What the heck, here are the moves that I used.

Note, Chess was on the easiest setting.

well, on the easiest setting, you should be able to beat it every time...lol

[satty]

why the hesitation? do you no longer play?

I shouldn't/can't play a serious game anymore, honestly. I did play a lot when I was younger (4+ hours a day for a couple of years, mainly against/with myself). Unfortunately, now it won't do me any good: Even the couple of minutes yesterday to check out the application stopped me from falling asleep for hours (I just saw a chess board all night and I still have all the moves in my head).

My last "serious" game was about 7 years ago - after a nearly 10 years break* - against a guy training/playing multiple times a week in a decent league team (on 1st board). It ended in a draw.

* Man, I am really old now... and in a couple of hours my next birthday is coming up :)

[sushi]

well, on the easiest setting, you should be able to beat it every time...lol
I was not commenting on beating the Tiger version of Chess on the easiest setting, which is easy to do.

The point of my post is that the same moves work every time -- at least on the two computers that I tested the solution shown above.

Edit: I am interested if my solution above works for anybody else. Please give it a try and let me know. Thanks!

[ieani]

Well good to hear that this is a common problem. I taught myself how to play Chess last week using this app and I have beaten it once, drawn twice, and lost countless times in the past 7 days. One draw was on strongest setting. I was embarrassed every other time I tried it on strongest though. I think my impatience would get to me.

Edit: Just won again. The computer likes to castle and then start doing piece elimination. So just catch him not paying attention and trap his king in his castle.

[backsidetailsli]

yeah i gave up. things tooooooo good

[ieani]

My friend got the idea to use the chess game to cheat on online chess. Yes we get that bored during finals week. But I beat someone with a rating over 2500 on yahoo chess. It was a close game but the computer is just too good.

To do this is simple. Play the same color on the mac app that your opponent is playing.

[Mechcozmo]

I was not commenting on beating the Tiger version of Chess on the easiest setting, which is easy to do.

The point of my post is that the same moves work every time -- at least on the two computers that I tested the solution shown above.

Edit: I am interested if my solution above works for anybody else. Please give it a try and let me know. Thanks!

It didn't work here.

[vozuya]

I won a chess game in Tiger! First time ever!... and a second to boot. Seems like the easy to "faster" to “stronger” settings actually mean something now! Before I never ever won a game

Maybe this is one of those 200 features we keep hearing about!?

I's good to know that that a human being beat up a computer; It's just a matter of time, in which, a human defeats a computer again. I truly realized that computers know how to calculate fast as well as humans could if they want to make it happen. I know a lot about mathematics and computers; we will always have to say what to do to computers, no matter what are their capabilities. We all know that computers were made by humans and that humans always "finds a way" for being the most dominant specie. I do believe that humans and computers will always have a rivalry; what I'm saying is, that, for every chess program they produce to defeat a human being, the human will get that victory back in their hands again. The only reason in the past they lose to the top Grandmasters it's because even Grandmasters had no knowledge about their idiosyncrasies. I only hope to know about another kasparov, Bobby Fisher or Capablanca in my life.

[messedkid]

I's good to know that that a human being beat up a computer; It's just a matter of time, in which, a human defeats a computer again. I truly realized that computers know how to calculate fast as well as humans could if they want to make it happen. I know a lot about mathematics and computers; we will always have to say what to do to computers, no matter what are their capabilities. We all know that computers were made by humans and that humans always "finds a way" for being the most dominant specie. I do believe that humans and computers will always have a rivalry; what I'm saying is, that, for every chess program they produce to defeat a human being, the human will get that victory back in their hands again. The only reason in the past they lose to the top Grandmasters it's because even Grandmasters had no knowledge about their idiosyncrasies. I only hope to know about another kasparov, Bobby Fisher or Capablanca in my life.


Was writing all that, worth bumping a year and a half old thread?

[pinktank]

let the machines try go! :D

[imaketouchtheme]

I just ate a bumpage sandwich, yummy.