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MacRumors
Nov 16, 2011, 05:43 PM
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VolumeSnap has returned to the excellent iOS photography app Camera+ (http://campl.us/).

Last year, developer TapTapTap released an update (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/12/21/apple-allows-camera-back-onto-app-store-after-4-month-removal/) to its Camera+ application with a small hack -- users could press the volume-up button to take a picture, instead of needing to press a soft-button on the screen.

This was considered an unauthorized hack and Apple banned the app until TapTapTap removed the feature. Apple then borrowed this innovation for iOS 5, and now users can press the Volume Up button (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/13/ios-5-camera-volume-shutter-lock-screen-remote-triggering/) to take pictures in the native iPhone camera app.

Camera+ for iPhone is available for $0.99 (http://appshopper.com/photography/camera%C2%A0...the-ultimate-photo-app) on the App Store [Direct Link (http://itunes.apple.com/app/id329670577?mt=8)].

Article Link: "VolumeSnap" Feature Returns to Camera+ (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/16/volumesnap-feature-returns-to-camera/)



jozero
Nov 16, 2011, 05:55 PM
Any app, if it uses the built in camera API, now inherits this feature as well.

yourstation
Nov 16, 2011, 05:58 PM
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Apple did not 'borrow' this. It was clearly a planned feature hence Apple blocked it.

MattRK
Nov 16, 2011, 06:17 PM
Apple did not 'borrow' this. It was clearly a planned feature hence Apple blocked it.

Do you have any proof to this? How do you know that Camera+ didn't have this on their planned feature list before Apple?

Veinticinco
Nov 16, 2011, 06:23 PM
If you can't beat them/think of it first, then block them citing DA violations regarding 'unauthorised' use of API. Then do a 180-degree U-turn once you've utilised the idea into you own OS.

Not Apple's finest hour this...

FrankieTDouglas
Nov 16, 2011, 06:24 PM
There was a jailbreak for this long before Camera+ included it.

Veinticinco
Nov 16, 2011, 06:26 PM
On update...

"Volume snap is back, beyotches!"

:D

gatearray
Nov 16, 2011, 06:27 PM
And by having the publicity from Apple removing the original Easter egg from this app, the developer has made MILLIONS of dollars that she wouldn't have without said publicity.

TonyTheBean
Nov 16, 2011, 06:38 PM
I still call bullcrap on Apple...

Tinmania
Nov 16, 2011, 06:40 PM
iRonically I had two updates earlier: one for Camera+ and the other for Camera Genius. Both had one-line blurbs about the update.

Camera+: "Volume snap is back, beyotches!"

Camera Genius:"Removal of Volume Shot as requested by Apple."


Too funny!!!!




Michael

leroypants
Nov 16, 2011, 06:41 PM
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"Apple then borrowed this innovation for iOS 5"

A more accurate description would be "apple blatantly and outright stole this idea"

184550
Nov 16, 2011, 06:41 PM
Image (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/16/volumesnap-feature-returns-to-camera/)


Image (http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/11/camera+-150x151.jpg)

VolumeSnap has returned to the excellent iOS photography app Camera+ (http://campl.us/).

Last year, developer TapTapTap released an update (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/12/21/apple-allows-camera-back-onto-app-store-after-4-month-removal/) to its Camera+ application with a small hack -- users could press the volume-up button to take a picture, instead of needing to press a soft-button on the screen.

This was considered an unauthorized hack and Apple banned the app until TapTapTap removed the feature. Apple then borrowed this innovation for iOS 5, and now users can press the Volume Up button (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/13/ios-5-camera-volume-shutter-lock-screen-remote-triggering/) to take pictures in the native iPhone camera app.

Camera+ for iPhone is available for $0.99 (http://appshopper.com/photography/camera%C2%A0...the-ultimate-photo-app) on the App Store [Direct Link (http://itunes.apple.com/app/id329670577?mt=8)].

Article Link: "VolumeSnap" Feature Returns to Camera+ (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/16/volumesnap-feature-returns-to-camera/)

Editorialize much? :roll eyes:

I wasn't aware Mr. Golson was allowed to speak for MR.

coder12
Nov 16, 2011, 07:10 PM
Editorialize much? :roll eyes:

I wasn't aware Mr. Golson was allowed to speak for MR.

Are you kidding me? Mr. Golson IS MR ;) :rolleyes:

</sarcasm>

JBunkers
Nov 16, 2011, 07:19 PM
Is there some trick or secret to activating this function, or is it an iOS 5 only feature? Because I downloaded the update and tried it. When I push the volume up button while in the Camera+ app all that happens is that my volume is turned up. I have iOS 4.2 on an iPhone 4, as I am waiting to upgrade to iOS 5 once they've got a couple of .x updates to it.

BigDukeSix
Nov 16, 2011, 07:37 PM
Is there some trick or secret to activating this function, or is it an iOS 5 only feature? Because I downloaded the update and tried it. When I push the volume up button while in the Camera+ app all that happens is that my volume is turned up. I have iOS 4.2 on an iPhone 4, as I am waiting to upgrade to iOS 5 once they've got a couple of .x updates to it.

I am wondering the exact same thing! I hope it works on iOS 4. I already have the app and I like it, but not sure what I need to do. I did just download the upgrade, but still not quite sure what else I need to do.

dasmb
Nov 16, 2011, 08:19 PM
Man you guys don't know what you're missing. iOS 5 offers such significant API and core language benefits to developers that our company's basically closed the book on iOS 4 for good.

For example: this function, which is not legal under iOS 4 but is built in to 5.

Get yourselves in the future. Don't like it (you will), you can always restore.

kuwxman
Nov 16, 2011, 08:23 PM
Is there some trick or secret to activating this function, or is it an iOS 5 only feature? Because I downloaded the update and tried it. When I push the volume up button while in the Camera+ app all that happens is that my volume is turned up. I have iOS 4.2 on an iPhone 4, as I am waiting to upgrade to iOS 5 once they've got a couple of .x updates to it.

Just an iOS 5 feature, it seems. I just tried taking a picture with the volume button (on a 4S, 5.0) and it worked with zero issues.

BigDukeSix
Nov 16, 2011, 08:33 PM
I am suspecting that they just made the app match what the existing iOS 5 apple camera app does.

Bass Ackwards
Nov 16, 2011, 08:42 PM
iRonically I had two updates earlier: one for Camera+ and the other for Camera Genius. Both had one-line blurbs about the update.

Camera+: "Volume snap is back, beyotches!"

Camera Genius:"Removal of Volume Shot as requested by Apple."


Too funny!!!!




Michael

Yea, as a Camera Genius user I saw that update and just figured another one of those incomprehensible Apple decisions, now seeing Camera+ gets it though I'm wondering what gives? Hopefully it just has to do with the way Camera Genius was coding it and it'll come back.

TMar
Nov 16, 2011, 09:54 PM
I am wondering the exact same thing! I hope it works on iOS 4. I already have the app and I like it, but not sure what I need to do. I did just download the upgrade, but still not quite sure what else I need to do.

Is there some trick or secret to activating this function, or is it an iOS 5 only feature? Because I downloaded the update and tried it. When I push the volume up button while in the Camera+ app all that happens is that my volume is turned up. I have iOS 4.2 on an iPhone 4, as I am waiting to upgrade to iOS 5 once they've got a couple of .x updates to it.

They are no longer using the 'hack' they had to do before to get it to work but the app did have to be updated to make use of the new API.

AmpSkillz
Nov 16, 2011, 10:51 PM
And by having the publicity from Apple removing the original Easter egg from this app, the developer has made MILLIONS of dollars that she wouldn't have without said publicity.

I doubt they made millions after the app was removed by Apple.. maybe from the original publicity of the feature.

nagromme
Nov 16, 2011, 10:54 PM
There are good reasons not to have this: the volume switch becomes only “sometimes” volume, and the tap-trigger jiggles the camera less (since it triggers on release and has no physical click). You can say that user confusion only matters on major issues, but the great iOS experience is actually a sum of many small choices, with pro-user motivations just like this policy (when it was in effect).

There are good reasons TO have this: people asked for it! Camera+ demonstrated/encouraged that request. A click feel is, after all, familiar (and doing it via the headphone remote is actually useful at times).

Did Apple block Camera+ so they could “steal” the idea (Evil Apple as always!) or did the developer agreement ALREADY forbid the use of the hardware buttons for non-standard purposes? Hint: the latter is true.

Then Apple changed that policy, because they LISTEN to people and flexible. This is but one of a constant stream of examples of how Apple adapts and improves. They are not fairytale tyrants, they are innovators seeking the best experience for us, and making great calls, and making bad calls, and fixing them.

However, because Apple is Always Evil™, they are both evil when they do NOT change a policy, and evil when they do :p

So, since we know they’re always evil in all cases, no matter what, and facts don’t matter... lets enjoy the change in both the native app and Camera+ :)

BigDukeSix
Nov 16, 2011, 10:59 PM
I just want it to work on my iOS 4 phone so it is more ergonomic than trying to take a picture using the button on the screen.

marty11
Nov 16, 2011, 11:31 PM
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A nice synopsis of Apple's idea of innovation going forward.

JBunkers
Nov 16, 2011, 11:34 PM
Man you guys don't know what you're missing. iOS 5 offers such significant API and core language benefits to developers that our company's basically closed the book on iOS 4 for good.

For example: this function, which is not legal under iOS 4 but is built in to 5.

Get yourselves in the future. Don't like it (you will), you can always restore.

Actually, from what I understand from information I've read online, once you upgrade your device to iOS 5, you CAN NOT go back to iOS 4. Can anyone else verify or discredit this particular information for us?

saving107
Nov 16, 2011, 11:45 PM
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Man you guys don't know what you're missing. iOS 5 offers such significant API and core language benefits to developers that our company's basically closed the book on iOS 4 for good.

For example: this function, which is not legal under iOS 4 but is built in to 5.

Get yourselves in the future. Don't like it (you will), you can always restore.

Actually, from what I understand from information I've read online, once you upgrade your device to iOS 5, you CAN NOT go back to iOS 4. Can anyone else verify or discredit this particular information for us?

This has always been the case, once you upgrade to the newest OS version, you can't go back.

BigDukeSix
Nov 17, 2011, 12:16 AM
Actually, from what I understand from information I've read online, once you upgrade your device to iOS 5, you CAN NOT go back to iOS 4. Can anyone else verify or discredit this particular information for us?

Agreed, I have also heard that once you go up to iOS 5, that is it, you cannot go back. While I have no doubt iOS 5 is nice, after reading the thread's here about all the issues folks were having, I do not need it yet, nor will I get it just so I can have the shutter button on the volume control. I can be very patient, and until some of those issues get resolved, I will wait.

slyv
Nov 17, 2011, 01:36 AM
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Other apps, like "top camera" or "camera genius" added this feature before camera+ about 2 weeks ago.

But the most interesting is that yesterday camera genius released update where they removed this feature!!! They wrote: "✓ Removal of Volume Shot as requested by Apple.".

Genner21
Nov 17, 2011, 01:49 AM
On update...

"Volume snap is back, beyotches!"

:D

I thought you were Playing.. It really does say that haha!

BeamWalker
Nov 17, 2011, 04:56 AM
Besides the 2 handed grip taking a picture is still not ideal. While pressing the button the iphone itself moves quite a bit. So especially with macro shots the soft button is the safer bet. I appreciate the choice I have now though.

BigDukeSix
Nov 17, 2011, 07:07 AM
I wrote the app developers and asked the question, and it does indeed only work on iOS 5. :(

Rayday
Nov 17, 2011, 08:08 AM
Actually, from what I understand from information I've read online, once you upgrade your device to iOS 5, you CAN NOT go back to iOS 4. Can anyone else verify or discredit this particular information for us?

Only if there was a simple way to look around the internet.... I don't know.... maybe a machine that will search the internet for me. I know, they could call it a search engine.

http://www.google.com/search?q=downgrade+ios
http://www.google.com/search?q=revert+ios
http://www.redmondpie.com/downgrade-ios-5-to-4.3.3-4.3.5-on-iphone-4-3gs-ipad-2-ipad-1-ipod-touch-how-to-tutorial/
http://www.iphonestuffs4u.com/downgrade-ios-4-3-4/
http://www.ihelplounge.com/ihelplounge/2011/06/how-to-downgrade-the-ios-5-to-ios-433432.html
Heck.... even: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1168337

I'm not trying to pick on any single person, but it seems that people are too easy to type "From what I've heard...."

Asking for help is one thing, but doing a simple, 2 word Google search and looking at the top result is another.

Let the thumbs down begin....

BJMRamage
Nov 17, 2011, 08:21 AM
I downloaded Camera+

I didn't find it useful at all.
I tried the Volume Trigger and found it moves the phone too much.
I do like the idea of a headphone trigger though.

I might try Camera+ again, I still keep it on my phone, I paid for it and want to feel like it wasn't wasted purchase.

Anyone want to give me reasons to "like" it?

BigDukeSix
Nov 17, 2011, 08:26 AM
Rayday, good info.

I think I did read this link several weeks ago, and this is what I was going by:
http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/10/why-you-cant-downgrade-ios.php

slyv
Nov 17, 2011, 11:26 AM
I wrote the app developers and asked the question, and it does indeed only work on iOS 5. :(

Try my app "Top Camera" - volume button shutter works there even on iPhone 2g with iOS 3.1:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/top-camera-photo-video-app/id441450063?mt=8

Rayday
Nov 17, 2011, 01:05 PM
Rayday, good info.

I think I did read this link several weeks ago, and this is what I was going by:
http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/10/why-you-cant-downgrade-ios.php

BigDukeSix... you (and the site you referenced) are correct..... "Apple" doesn't let you downgrade. However, it doesn't take a jailbreak to do it.

The downgrade method just is not as elegant as Apple's typical "It just works".

If more people put links to sources of their "knowledge", I think the internet would be a much friendlier community. Now that I see what you read, I understand where you are coming from.

People too often take the "I'm right and you're wrong" approach. Whether it be: Mac/PC, Rep/Dem, iOS/green robot, etc.

Swift
Nov 17, 2011, 08:32 PM
If you can't beat them/think of it first, then block them citing DA violations regarding 'unauthorised' use of API. Then do a 180-degree U-turn once you've utilised the idea into you own OS.

Not Apple's finest hour this...

Why? They planned to use something themselves, and the API wasn't fully developed. They make a private API first so the bugs can be removed. Then they release the API to all camera apps.

They asked Camera+ to remove the feature, and then they put it back in when the new API became public in iOS 5. Apple used it what, a month before Camera+?

The company got in trouble because they removed the feature, but they left an Easter Egg there so there was still a way to make it work. That's why they got pulled temporarily.

If you promise to do something, Apple doesn't take it kindly when you don't do it.

BigDukeSix
Nov 17, 2011, 09:06 PM
Try my app "Top Camera" - volume button shutter works there even on iPhone 2g with iOS 3.1:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/top-camera-photo-video-app/id441450063?mt=8

I did download it and like it. Thx!!

Denisoftus
Nov 18, 2011, 06:04 AM
Vol snap doesn't work for me on Camera+, still works fine on native Camera

davepilgrimus
Nov 19, 2011, 08:45 AM
Apple seems to "borrow" a lot of features. You do have to give it to them that they pay attention enough to see what other developers are doing to improve their products. Other companies spend countless dollars on focus groups that led to nothing. I hate it for taptaptap though. However, I do love the new quick camera feature on the new iphone 4e though.

brygruver
Nov 19, 2011, 01:07 PM
Actually, from what I understand from information I've read online, once you upgrade your device to iOS 5, you CAN NOT go back to iOS 4. Can anyone else verify or discredit this particular information for us?

That is correct, you can not go back. Apple signs (verifies) each installation of iOS. After a new version is released, the old version will not be signed anymore. This is also why you cannot restore an iOS device without an internet connection.

Ashlyn
Nov 21, 2011, 06:59 AM
I just read this: http://blog.procamera-app.com/?p=346. It told a nice story about ProCamera, Camera Genius, and Camera+. Now I understand why Camera Genius' VolumeSnap got removed. If Camera+ used the same 'hacked' method, then they will face the same fate? So maybe ProCamera is the only advanced camera app with the VolumeSnap?

MattG
Nov 21, 2011, 03:46 PM
I downloaded Camera+

Anyone want to give me reasons to "like" it?

The editing options alone make it worthwhile over Apple's built in camera app.

BJMRamage
Nov 21, 2011, 03:52 PM
The editing options alone make it worthwhile over Apple's built in camera app.

i guess I will have to look it over again. I LOVE snapseed and use that for editing.