Am I the only one that likes mail 2.0?

[jaseone]

Throughout the various "Tiger sucks" or "Tiger isn't ready posts" I've seen many people complain about Mail 2.0 but personally I'm actually feeling the Mail 2.0 love!

I like the cleaner interface and don't think the icons look out of place at all and in fact I wish Apple would have used the style in Mail 2.0 more consistently throughout Tiger, I like the smooth gradient look of the background and the curves of the icons. Is that a style that was around before Panther (when I switched) or is it something new?

[yg17]

I don't mind it either. The interface is nothing mind blowing, but its a bit cleaner than Mail 1.0.

[mfacey]

No better than 1.0, but no worse either!

[Koodauw]

I didnt like the new look at first, but its slowly growing on me. I will say it is nice to have all you folders on the left, not on some slide option. The cleaner style up top is nice as well. I like the Mail 2.0 better everyday. Haven't noticed any drastic changes other the looks though

[mkrishnan]

No better than 1.0, but no worse either!

I like the search interface slightly better, and I think the junk mail filtering engine seems to have improved slightly, but other than that, yeah, to me, it's pretty close to being the same as Mail 1.x.

[Brigrat]

I love it. no complaints at all.

Perfectly functional, with little flash...just like me!

[gamestriker]

I love it. no complaints at all.

Perfectly functional, with little flash...just like me!


Same here lol :)

[munkle]

I'm not exactly impressed with the new icons but they're easily changed, so no biggie in my eyes. My only dislike really is that they've gotten ridden of the status bar. I like getting feedback.

[witness]

I've installed Tiger about 3 times now and every time it has been a real headache to get Mail 2 working. There seem to be some big bugs in the IMAP configuration, which mean that after updating the IMAP folder location I have to delete some of the configuration files to get it working.

But once it's configured it seems to run quite smoothly and I'm very happy with it. It's great to be able to use spotlight with IMAP email accounts.

[wrldwzrd89]

I didnt like the new look at first, but its slowly growing on me. I will say it is nice to have all you folders on the left, not on some slide option. The cleaner style up top is nice as well. I like the Mail 2.0 better everyday. Haven't noticed any drastic changes other the looks though
I definitely like the sidebar replacement for the drawer, which, quite honestly, didn't work very well in Mail. The buttons are OK. However, the biggest improvement for me in Mail 2 vs. Mail 1 is speed of message retrieval - it seems to grab the new messages 2-3 times faster than before.

[CubaTBird]

i dunno... feels "quirky" to me... i never know if its checking my mail like it used to tell me in panther... interesting, when hit command + i it takes a screen pic of your current screen, opens mail, and sticks that pic in a new message... hrm... neto lol :o

EDIT: works when you have safari open, it takes a pic of the webpage...

[Duff-Man]

Duff-Man says....I quite like the new look, even the icons...and I have had no trouble with using it with any of my mail accounts.....oh yeah!

[russed]

no, i like it. the layout took a while to get used to but in general i think i like it! much more user friendly and i lile the visual monitor to show how full my imap account it.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I love both the look and feel of Mail 2. The only thing I really miss is the missing status bar. If they reintroduce that I don't think I could be any happier... :)

[Dr.Gargoyle]

I used entourage (please dont flame me :p ) in Panther. Mail 2 made me switch from entourage. I really like the new look of Mail 2, and I don't understand what people are complaining about. It might just be a matter of adjusting to the new look.

[thequicksilver]

The lack of status bar is doing my head in. If it were there, I'd live with the grotesque UI.

As it stands, I'd switch back to Panther Mail in a second if I could.

[wrldwzrd89]

I never used this "status bar" in Panther Mail (or even knew it existed, assuming it's a UI feature that can be turned on or off and is off by default - if it doesn't fit that description, then I have used it).

If it's the bar that shows how many headers have been retrieved, I used it all the time in Panther, but don't miss it's absence in Tiger Mail.

[munkle]

Hardly a substitute for the status bar but don't forget you can bring up mail's activity viewer (command-0) to get some feedback. Status bar aside I appreciate the new Connection Doctor (window/connection doctor)., has come in handy when trying to pinpoint problems.

[Phat_Pat]

Love it much better than the other one.

[Etrain]

I love it. I come from Outlook though so ANYTHING is better! :)

[jackieonasses]

I like Mail's UI much better. It is faster and is well indexed...


kyle

[Sirus The Virus]

I like the new Mail 2.0 its much more professional looking than 1.0. BTW Tiger does not suck!

[MoparShaha]

I prefer the old Mail interface. I've tried to change Tiger's Mail back to my liking, but I'm still missing the status. I can't believe Apple took that out.

http://img148.echo.cx/img148/752/picture13rm.png

[Bobak]

I prefer the old Mail interface. I've tried to change Tiger's Mail back to my liking, but I'm still missing the status. I can't believe Apple took that out.

http://img148.echo.cx/img148/752/picture13rm.png

window > activity viewer

[NaMo4184]

I like the interface. I don't miss the status bar because all the information it presented is still presented and less obstusive. The number of messages is in the toolbar and internet connection w/checking duration is in the side bar. I think that mail 2.0 is also easier to setup and figure out what is wrong because of the internet connection utility. And I love how the new buttons are grouped together. I look at the old mail buttons and it looks like a jumbled mess now.

[Zaty]

I like Mail 2.0 much better than v1.3. It's more functional and looks better. I hated the drawer.

[munkle]

Thought I'd throw in a screenshot of my tool bar. Kept the same icons, just changed the background (click to see larger image):

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

window > activity viewer
That's not the same...

Now if you could "dock" the Activity viewer window (or at least float it on top) it could be a substitute, but what use is that window when it's hidden under the main window? (And since I, as many others have a 1024x768 screen, there isn't too much space for both windows... :()

[Lacero]

Throughout the various "Tiger sucks" or "Tiger isn't ready posts" I've seen many people complain about Mail 2.0 but personally I'm actually feeling the Mail 2.0 love!Normally, it's the whiny people who are the most vocal. If the program works as expected, you'll likely not hear about it. That's why reading forum posts to make judgements about a program's appeal is useless.

[Jonx]

I like mail 2 interface and the colors and the buttons, its all good :D

[iMeowbot]

I used to have Mail.app automatically move all my messages to folders on a local IMAP server so they would be easier to retrieve remotely, but Tiger's mail screws this up enormously, duplicating about half the messages. (I was using Mail.app rather than a dedicated POP program in order to take advantage of Apple's spam filter.) 10.4.1 didn't fix the IMAP trouble.

Fortunately I don't need the remote access now and moving over to "local" folders works around the problem, but the time and aggravation required to deal with it wasn't welcome :mad:

[Gordy]

Coming from outlook on my pc I found mail basic at first but its grown on me I like the basicness now :)

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Here's another reason why the activity monitor doesn't replace the status bar:

There's something going on with my GMail account, but the activity monitor is clueless...

[MoparShaha]

window > activity viewer
Yeah, but Apple took something that was nicely integrated into the UI and put it into an obscure, separate place. It's like an auto manufacturer removing the air vents from a new model car and giving you a small fan you can bolt onto your dashboard. Not a perfect analogy, but I think it makes the point.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

The activity monitor was there in Mail 1.x, too...

But I really want "my" status bar back... :(

[thequicksilver]

Just an update - I filed a Bug Report to Apple on Radar pretty much as soon as Tiger came out about the lack of status bar, and it's been labelled as "Duplicate". It's evidently annoyed a few people, and I'm hoping that as Apple obviously know about it, it will come back in a later version of Tiger.

[5300cs]

I'm not that happy that Apple decided the mailboxes/folders will be on the left side only now, I much more preferred them on the right.

I do like the little clock thingy that shows up when it's updating folders, though.

[rugonnaeatthat]

I think it's interesting that someone said they swapped from Entourage; maybe too many people viewed mail as part of the operating system instead of a separate application, for Apple's liking. They are putting development effort into it and obviously want people to feel they have many programs bundled so they feel they have value for money.

For whatever reason I feel the new icons fail to effectively communicate their purpose - 10.3's did this quite well. I think they just need to be tweaked and made a bit bigger the latter, of course, might just be because I'm getting used to my new 20inch's res from a 17inch CRT!

[wozzlewoozle]

I generally like the interface of Mail 2.0. the only issue I had at first was the mailboxes on the left, as I always had the drawer open on the right, but I'm fine with it now.

It's a much cleaner, tidier look than Mail 1.2 (1.3?, not near machine with Panther...), as I genrally feel all of Tiger is.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I actually prefer to have all the mailboxes to the left (and those who don't like them, just hit shift-cmd-M to hide/show them). The drawer was butt ugly, and I never really liked having it on the right (but having it on the left was even worse).

[Pismo]

I like Mail 2. I think the Junk mail filter is a lot better. Now I hope Apple let's us configure the interface a lottle more. I'd like to have my mailboxes on the right side like I did in Panther.

[mad jew]

The drawer was butt ugly, and I never really liked having it on the right (but having it on the left was even worse).


I'd rate the draw dropping ( ;) ) in Mail 2.0 as the single best difference. I hope they do the same with iCal soon.

[Sedulous]

Did anyone here suggest the following (I haven't carefully read all the posts): The fact that Apple has introduced such variety into the OS suggests that they are working on offering customizing features/skins? For years people on these boards have been howling for a built-in feature of this nature.

[ravenvii]

Well, I like Mail 2.0 :) I don't love the icons, but other than that everything seems good. I'm glad Apple got rid of the drawer, and I like it on the left. It makes more sense to me, since the sidebar is also on the left in the Finder. Logically for the most of the world, it goes from biggest to smallest in a left-right manner.

I also noticed the missing status thingy, wasn't too bothered by it, but I do wish Apple left that in there, it came in useful from time to time.

[inigo]

Mail 2.0 is a big improvement on Mail 1.0 which really was hideous. I think some people just got used to the sight of it ;)

Only quibbles:
You can't compose in HTML

Can't compress attachments (useful if you're sending files to PC land)

Activity viewer looks a bit awkward


I switched over from Entourage and haven't regretted it - yet

[Kerry Sanders]

I never ran Panther, because I just got my Mac recently and it had Tiger pre-installed. So, I do not have any experience with Mail before version 2.0. With that said, I will say that Mail 2.0 works pretty well for what I use it for.

The only problem that I have had with it is that Smart Mailbox messages are included in the overall mailbox view, so you end up seeing duplicate messages.

[mkrishnan]

The only problem that I have had with it is that Smart Mailbox messages are included in the overall mailbox view, so you end up seeing duplicate messages.

Mmmm...I thought that was sort of the point. If you want the message to only exist in the secondary folder, can't you make it a regular folder and use rules to move the message into it in much the same way the smart mailbox would?

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

You can't compose in HTMLNot a big problem (see my sig) :rolleyes:

Can't compress attachments (useful if you're sending files to PC land)Zip them before attaching (built into Finder, just right/ctrl-click), and set Mail to send Windows friendly attachments (Edit->Attachments->Always send...).

Activity viewer looks a bit awkwardSay with me: We want the status bar back! ;)

[shadowmoses]

I think mail 2.0 is very nice to work with it looks very clean and organised

[James Philp]

The sidebar style brings it into like with iTunes, iCal, iPhoto and a bunch of others, No overall status bars just like in iCal etc.- the sidebar acts to provide feedback on what mailboxes are being accessed etc.and what mail is being retrieved (the clock symbol)
Personally I'm not bothered about the activity thing, I always found myself opening the dedicated window anyway.

Mail 2 is much better than the previous versions, silly icons aside. Smart mailboxes are very useful, junk mail filters seem better, it's pretty nippy, handles accounts and rules better and i like the grayish look of it.

If all the apps were like that across the board I wouldn't mind - you can tell a lot easier which window is "active". Brushed metal can :confused: me sometimes. Apple really do need to be more consistent with app GUIs.

[CiBoys]

I Love Mail 2.0 but it'll be better if i can subscribe to forum through mail 2. Dose anyone know if that is possible?

[Kerry Sanders]

Mmmm...I thought that was sort of the point. If you want the message to only exist in the secondary folder, can't you make it a regular folder and use rules to move the message into it in much the same way the smart mailbox would?

So, are you saying to use the views for the Smart Mailboxes instead of the overall view? I guess that is what I have to get used to.