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MacRumors
Feb 24, 2012, 02:12 PM
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Apple's iPhones were the top three most popular smartphones in the United States for all of 2011, according to comScore's (http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Presentations_Whitepapers/2012/2012_Mobile_Future_in_Focus) 2012 Mobile Future in Focus whitepaper. NPD reported similar results (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/01/09/iphone-4s-closes-sales-gap-on-android-as-apple-sweeps-top-three-smartphone-models/) for the months of October and November, when the iPhone 4S was the most popular smartphone in the country after it was released.

http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/02/comscoretopphones.jpg


For the full year, the iPhone 4S was the country's third most popular smartphone model, beating every other non iPhone model, even though it was only on sale for the final three months of the year. As they were on sale for the full 12 months, both the iPhone 4 and 3GS outsold the iPhone 4S. In fourth place was a single BlackBerry model, followed by the only Android device on the list: the HTC Evo 4G -- a Sprint exclusive, and the first 4G phone available in the US.

Article Link: Apple Sells Top 3 U.S. Smartphone Models for All of 2011 (http://www.macrumors.com/2012/02/24/apple-sells-top-3-u-s-smartphone-models-for-all-of-2011/)



bigjnyc
Feb 24, 2012, 02:16 PM
No wonder Samsung is going at the iPhone so hard in their ads :D

*LTD*
Feb 24, 2012, 02:17 PM
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3573/120223topsmartphones201.jpg

H2SO4
Feb 24, 2012, 02:18 PM
So how does Android have all this market share?

jlgolson
Feb 24, 2012, 02:19 PM
So how does Android have all this market share?
Massive fragmentation. Many manufacturers with lots of models each. No one dominant model.

H2SO4
Feb 24, 2012, 02:21 PM
Massive fragmentation. Many manufacturers with lots of models each. No one dominant model.

It must be phenomenal. I wonder how long it'll last.

nagromme
Feb 24, 2012, 02:21 PM
But remember: having a phone is all about hype and superficiality, not actual ease of use and getting things done. Having a NEW flash-in-the-pan outer shape is what it’s all about, even if you bury it under a custom case anyway.

Thus, the iPhone 4S which made all of the iPhone 5 rumors come true except the shape, is unwanted. And clearly, nobody would be caught dead with the iPhone 3G/S styling from FOUR years ago :p

Apple better shape up and start offering more than three physical phone styles, and they’d better change them up several times a year. People want a phone that’s obsolete, unsupported, and out of fashion quickly, and then they want something that looks new on the outside! (Samsung users excepted: they want the same old styling Apple has used before.)

*LTD*
Feb 24, 2012, 02:21 PM
So how does Android have all this market share?

It's split between a ****-ton of OEMs.

EDIT: already answered.

I'll just leave this here anyway.

bigjnyc
Feb 24, 2012, 02:25 PM
So how does Android have all this market share?

Massive fragmentation. Many manufacturers with lots of models each. No one dominant model.

It's split between a ****-ton of OEMs.

EDIT: already answered.

I'll just leave this here anyway.

Not to mention the fact that they update their models every 2 weeks. I feel like the Droid RAZR came out and 2 weeks later they had the RAZR max or whatever it is.... and Samsung has a new model every other day.

Awfisch
Feb 24, 2012, 02:26 PM
I seriously laughed so hard when I saw this. First of all, the iPhone 4S had only been out for 3 months, yet it beat out all non-iPhone competitors. Secondly, the iPhone 3GS is 3 years old! The oldest model that Apple sells is still out selling all of these "Blockbuster" smartphones!

Apple is laughing all the way to the bank with this one! But watch out! I hear that Samsung Note is going to be a huge hit! A stylus is the way of the future. :p

BJMRamage
Feb 24, 2012, 02:37 PM
that's kind of the beauty of a limited stock/type.

They get news of this. Sure Android is selling/giving away more phones but that is from many manufacturers. Apple cam still EASILY say they have the #1, 2 and 3 Phones in the US. and Top in worldwide markets, they aren't shelling out more OS but more phones of the same type than the others.

Ask someone what iPhone they have and you pretty much know how old/new it is, etc. ask an Android and then you need an explanation...is that the latest, "No, the MaxG Force RAZR is, but i figure mine is just 2 months old, I might 3 more and then get the MaxGForce Lightning Probe RAZR then. I hear it'll be great."

rdowns
Feb 24, 2012, 02:58 PM
Android is winning. [/gruber]

lucasmonger
Feb 24, 2012, 03:09 PM
I was really surprised that a Blackberry came in at #4. With all the talk about Samsung, HTC, LG, and Motorola all duking it out for market share, maybe all the hype about Blackberry being dead isn't quite right. If I were the RIM CEO, I'd be putting up ads on TV about how Blackberry is the best selling smartphone in the US behind the iPhone.

Alas, that doesn't change my mind on which device I'd carry in my pocket. Maybe the numbers are just showing how corporate america is still offering Blackberries, enough to put them at #4.

mrxak
Feb 24, 2012, 03:46 PM
Considering the 4S was only available for two and a half months in 2011, that's pretty impressive it beat out every single other company's phones.


Image (http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3573/120223topsmartphones201.jpg)

I'm sure if Apple had rolled out the 4S quicker in Europe, the top three spots would have looked the same for both charts.

h0mi
Feb 24, 2012, 04:10 PM
I seriously laughed so hard when I saw this. First of all, the iPhone 4S had only been out for 3 months, yet it beat out all non-iPhone competitors. Secondly, the iPhone 3GS is 3 years old! The oldest model that Apple sells is still out selling all of these "Blockbuster" smartphones!


And the 3GS is available only on AT&T.

Saladinos
Feb 24, 2012, 04:22 PM
I'm sure if Apple had rolled out the 4S quicker in Europe, the top three spots would have looked the same for both charts.

There were also massive shortages. The Apple Store in Cambridge was out of stock every day for months.

Nielsenius
Feb 24, 2012, 04:36 PM
This data isn't surprising. As many have already said, Android has a bigger market share, but only because there is a new Android-based phone every day. I'd sooner consider a WP7 or BB device before Android. I don't know what it is, but something about those Droids repels me.

JHankwitz
Feb 24, 2012, 04:37 PM
But remember: having a phone is all about hype and superficiality, not actual ease of use and getting things done. Having a NEW flash-in-the-pan outer shape is what it’s all about, even if you bury it under a custom case anyway.

Thus, the iPhone 4S which made all of the iPhone 5 rumors come true except the shape, is unwanted. And clearly, nobody would be caught dead with the iPhone 3G/S styling from FOUR years ago :p

Apple better shape up and start offering more than three physical phone styles, and they’d better change them up several times a year. People want a phone that’s obsolete, unsupported, and out of fashion quickly, and then they want something that looks new on the outside! (Samsung users excepted: they want the same old styling Apple has used before.)

Oh for sure. It's quite obvious that what Apple has been doing simply will not result in decent sales.

dokujaryu
Feb 24, 2012, 04:41 PM
I was really surprised that a Blackberry came in at #4. With all the talk about Samsung, HTC, LG, and Motorola all duking it out for market share, maybe all the hype about Blackberry being dead isn't quite right. If I were the RIM CEO, I'd be putting up ads on TV about how Blackberry is the best selling smartphone in the US behind the iPhone.

Alas, that doesn't change my mind on which device I'd carry in my pocket. Maybe the numbers are just showing how corporate america is still offering Blackberries, enough to put them at #4.

That's what surprised me as well.

However, it shouldn't surprise me since I HAVE a freaking blackberry curve. MY COMPANY MAKES ME CARRY IT. >:( I dual wield the #1 and #4 phones of 2011.

JHankwitz
Feb 24, 2012, 04:50 PM
This data isn't surprising. As many have already said, Android has a bigger market share, but only because there is a new Android-based phone every day. I'd sooner consider a WP7 or BB device before Android. I don't know what it is, but something about those Droids repels me.

The repulsion is their advertizing. God awful junk! Their ads simply don't provide any user benefits. No benefits = no value = no sales.

I had to burst out laughing whan I saw an ad for using a stylus on their smartphone. They were actually trying to impress everyone that they were catching up to Apple's 1992 Newton. I was totally suprised that they would have the gonads to do something as stupid as that.

LiesForTheLiars
Feb 24, 2012, 04:55 PM
I dual wield the #1 and #4 phones of 2011.

I think that makes you some kind of superhero. ;)

*LTD*
Feb 24, 2012, 06:11 PM
But remember: having a phone is all about hype and superficiality, not actual ease of use and getting things done. Having a NEW flash-in-the-pan outer shape is what it’s all about, even if you bury it under a custom case anyway.

Thus, the iPhone 4S which made all of the iPhone 5 rumors come true except the shape, is unwanted. And clearly, nobody would be caught dead with the iPhone 3G/S styling from FOUR years ago :p

Apple better shape up and start offering more than three physical phone styles, and they’d better change them up several times a year. People want a phone that’s obsolete, unsupported, and out of fashion quickly, and then they want something that looks new on the outside! (Samsung users excepted: they want the same old styling Apple has used before.)

Well done. ;)

Invincibilizer
Feb 24, 2012, 07:24 PM
iPhone4s is a decent phone but I'm tired of the OS.

Most likely getting Nexus Prime running ice cream sandwich to suit my sweet tooth!

PNutts
Feb 24, 2012, 08:55 PM
iPhone4s is a decent phone but I'm tired of the OS.

Most likely getting Nexus Prime running ice cream sandwich to suit my sweet tooth!

If you mean the Galaxy Nexus :) you'll be in the 0.6% of Android users running Ice Cream Sandwich (http://www.intomobile.com/2012/01/04/latest-android-numbers-reflect-low-ics-market-share/). No hate, I just like numbers.

joshsage
Feb 24, 2012, 09:30 PM
I seriously laughed so hard when I saw this. First of all, the iPhone 4S had only been out for 3 months, yet it beat out all non-iPhone competitors. Secondly, the iPhone 3GS is 3 years old! The oldest model that Apple sells is still out selling all of these "Blockbuster" smartphones!

Apple is laughing all the way to the bank with this one! But watch out! I hear that Samsung Note is going to be a huge hit! A stylus is the way of the future. :p

What this guy said!

B777Forevar
Feb 24, 2012, 09:41 PM
Congrats to Apple
I was really surprised that a Blackberry came in at #4.

The blackberry is still a solid device. I still see quite a lot of people with them.

nickelt
Feb 25, 2012, 05:45 AM
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Samsung just got samsunged!

*LTD*
Feb 25, 2012, 08:01 AM
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Samsung just got samsunged!

They got Appled.

i.mac
Feb 25, 2012, 08:57 AM
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I was really surprised that a Blackberry came in at #4. With all the talk about Samsung, HTC, LG, and Motorola all duking it out for market share, maybe all the hype about Blackberry being dead isn't quite right. If I were the RIM CEO, I'd be putting up ads on TV about how Blackberry is the best selling smartphone in the US behind the iPhone.

Alas, that doesn't change my mind on which device I'd carry in my pocket. Maybe the numbers are just showing how corporate america is still offering Blackberries, enough to put them at #4.

That's what surprised me as well.

However, it shouldn't surprise me since I HAVE a freaking blackberry curve. MY COMPANY MAKES ME CARRY IT. >:( I dual wield the #1 and #4 phones of 2011.

The same is true for me.

Use the bberry for company calls exclusively. Use the iPhone for every thing else.

the8thark
Feb 25, 2012, 12:54 PM
And I'm sure total profit per model and total profit margin per model in any region around the world would be:

1. Apple
2. Apple
3. Apple
4+. Everyone else.

Who cares how many phones you sell. if you make more money of selling less product then that's great.

kdarling
Feb 25, 2012, 04:42 PM
Interestingly, the second half of that comScore white paper is about tablets:

"It is important to note that as tablets gain popularity among users, they are not replacing mobile phones or computers." - comScore

Hmm. I thought that everyone else is claiming that tablets are replacing other computers.

Perhaps they simply mean to say that people aren't getting rid of their current computers after they get a tablet?

"Rather, it would seem that tablets are supplementing a multidevice diet that is increasingly becoming the norm among consumers." - comScore

I agree about the multi-device aspect; that's why multiple tablet sizes sell.

Medic278
Feb 25, 2012, 05:46 PM
wow thats pretty impressive. Especially as other users have said the 3GS is 4 years old and is only available on ATT and it still sold better than EVERY Android phone. It looks like Android and the OEM are just growing anything against the wall in hopes that eventually something will stick, I think they would do much better if they took a bit more time and developed a single solid phone instead of 30 subpar phones and releasing a new one every week. Take a page out of Apples book obviously they are blowing you away.

kdarling
Feb 25, 2012, 06:47 PM
wow thats pretty impressive. Especially as other users have said the 3GS is 4 years old and is only available on ATT and it still sold better than EVERY Android phone.

That is impressive, but it would help to know how many competing Android phones sold for 99 cents, and what their specs were.

It looks like Android and the OEM are just growing anything against the wall in hopes that eventually something will stick, I think they would do much better if they took a bit more time and developed a single solid phone instead of 30 subpar phones and releasing a new one every week. Take a page out of Apples book obviously they are blowing you away.

Yes, fewer models might let them do better in charts that compare individual model sales.

However, since Android's user share is far above that of Apple's in the US, they must be doing something right by offering more choice. That same comScore report says Android now has 47%.

326276

Each sales model has its pros and cons.

Medic278
Feb 25, 2012, 06:51 PM
I agree with you Android phone can be had for next to nothing, I don't understand why people actually think they even compete with iOS. Its easy to get market share when you develop crap products and price them cheap then release one every week. I mean look at windows products......

Scarrus
Feb 25, 2012, 11:10 PM
No wonder Samsung is going at the iPhone so hard in their ads :D

Agreed



Samsung: "Apple, why u no stop so we can sell copy of your stuff more than u sell?!!! :mad: "


:p

lucasmonger
Feb 26, 2012, 08:02 AM
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The same is true for me.

Use the bberry for company calls exclusively. Use the iPhone for every thing else.

I used to carry both an lack berry and an iPhone in 2008, but jettisoned the blackberry as it was really frustrating to use. I gave up access to corporate email and just used my plethora of rollover minutes and don't regret it at all. My blackberry was one of those models with a scrollball that was non touchscreen and it was infuriatingly frustrating to try to tap something or swipe at the screen where nothing would happen.

OrangeSVTguy
Feb 26, 2012, 08:57 AM
And the 3GS is available only on AT&T and T-Mobile.

Fixed that ;)

DESNOS
Feb 26, 2012, 07:29 PM
I have a feeling that once the 4 is available for 99˘, Android's gonna take a huge hit it he US. 3 carriers and a low price point will make a huge difference.

ihonda
Feb 26, 2012, 07:54 PM
oh yeah when the 4 goes to 99cents and 4s 100 its a wrap. wrapppppp but i could see apple doing the 3GS free, 4S $100 new phone $200+ people might not understand the difference between 4 and 4S u know..

Macist
Feb 27, 2012, 09:30 AM
Heheh! It's not even a year ago people were resigned to the fact that Android would just get bigger and bigger and the iPhone would be more of a niche eventually.

Having used all but the absolute up to date Android phones, the iPhone just works, has the best Apps, has a consistent look and feel, and the best industrial design. Massive near-tablet screens, 'big number' specs and crazy stuff like styli (in 2012???) just don't impress. Samsung are embarrassing themselves with their anti-fanboy nonsense - all they are doing is keeping the iPhone at the forefront of peoples' minds. Losers.

bpaluzzi
Feb 28, 2012, 03:44 AM
As many have already said, Android has a bigger market share, but only because there is a new Android-based phone every day.


However, since Android's user share is far above that of Apple's in the US, they must be doing something right by offering more choice.

Android does NOT have a bigger market share than iOS.

Android has a bigger SMARTPHONE market share than iOS.

iOS, on the other hand, has almost a 50% larger overall device market share than Android.

So ...

... There are more people on the iOS operating system than the Android operating system ...

... And the 3 best selling devices are iOS devices ...

... And iOS is taking the lion's share of profits (developer and device) ...

Tell me again how Android is winning?
:rolleyes:

santabreganza
Feb 28, 2012, 09:58 AM
Well done. ;)

Really Well Done :)

TallGuy1970
Feb 28, 2012, 11:04 AM
Congrats to Apple


The blackberry is still a solid device. I still see quite a lot of people with them.

A couple of my friends still have Blackberrys. In fact, they just got new ones. They have played with my iPhone and love it, EXCEPT for the on-screen keyboard. They hate that feature and must have a physical keyboard.

Interestingly, they never even considered the Droid. :D

kdarling
Feb 28, 2012, 12:55 PM
Android does NOT have a bigger market share than iOS.

Android has a bigger SMARTPHONE market share than iOS.

Good, since the topic is smartphones.

iOS, on the other hand, has almost a 50% larger overall device market share than Android.

Now you're switching topics, but okay. It's more like under 15%, and dropping fast.

At the beginning of 2012, there had been 316 million iOS devices sold worldwide since 2007.

Google just announced 300 million Android activations. (That doesn't include all the tens of millions of Nooks and other non-Google-app licensed devices in the world.)

At the current rate of Android activations (850K a day), vs iOS activations (guessed by others at 350K-500K a day), Android's total should pass the iOS total within 120 days or less.

Not that it matters, since totals incuding almost half decade old sales don't tell us about who is using what OS today.

That is why that chart was brought up, from the same source that said iPhones sell well. It says there are currently more Android smartphone users in the US than iPhone users. It's just the way it is right now, and it could change either way.

jonnysods
Feb 28, 2012, 08:33 PM
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That is crazy. The 3GS came out in 2010!!

DeathChill
Feb 28, 2012, 10:57 PM
Good, since the topic is smartphones.

I get that, but I think the confusion may have arose because you didn't specify iPhone. The poster must have assumed you meant iOS.


Now you're switching topics, but okay. It's more like under 15%, and dropping fast.

I assume he is talking about in the US, where a comScore report has iOS having a 59% greater reach than Android. In Europe that lead extended to 116%. However, I believe that report is old so I can't be sure on updated numbers.


At the beginning of 2012, there had been 316 million iOS devices sold worldwide since 2007.

Google just announced 300 million Android activations. (That doesn't include all the tens of millions of Nooks and other non-Google-app licensed devices in the world.)

At the current rate of Android activations (850K a day), vs iOS activations (guessed by others at 350K-500K a day), Android's total should pass the iOS total within 120 days or less.

Not that it matters, since totals incuding almost half decade old sales don't tell us about who is using what OS today.

That is why that chart was brought up, from the same source that said iPhones sell well. It says there are currently more Android smartphone users in the US than iPhone users. It's just the way it is right now, and it could change either way.
Indeed. It's also interesting to note that even as Android grows, iOS seems to dominate in actual usage (web browsing statistics, public WiFi connections, etc). I wonder at what point they will level out.

bpaluzzi
Feb 29, 2012, 02:41 AM
Good, since the topic is smartphones.

Sorry, that doesn't hold. If we're talking about all-in-one PCs, and someone says "Mac has more marketshare than Windows", it's still not correct.
Android doesn't have more marketshare than iOS. There are more phones running Android, but that's an artificial and arbitrary distinction. Marketshare is not the holy grail some people make it out to be, but for the little value it has, what do I care if another user can make a voice call on his device, or if it's just a music player?


At the current rate of Android activations (850K a day), vs iOS activations (guessed by others at 350K-500K a day), Android's total should pass the iOS total within 120 days or less.


Tomorrow, tomorrow, you're only a day away.

AlPlPlLE
Feb 29, 2012, 10:12 PM
Heheh! It's not even a year ago people were resigned to the fact that Android would just get bigger and bigger and the iPhone would be more of a niche eventually.

Having used all but the absolute up to date Android phones, the iPhone just works, has the best Apps, has a consistent look and feel, and the best industrial design. Massive near-tablet screens, 'big number' specs and crazy stuff like styli (in 2012???) just don't impress. Samsung are embarrassing themselves with their anti-fanboy nonsense - all they are doing is keeping the iPhone at the forefront of peoples' minds. Losers.


Yes ^^^ great post

iSayuSay
Mar 2, 2012, 05:40 PM
Whoa hold on there, I'm a bit confused. This table came from Jan 2011-Dec 2011, right?

I thought on the last quarterly report, Apple stated that iPhone 4S was a superb hit and it was the most successful iPhone sales ever! The numbers trump any previous quarterly report and that sales were dominated by 4S during 2011 Christmas holiday.

But from the graph I see that 4S even not in #2, while it is supposed to be #1 smartphone in US, right? Anyone care to enlighten me? That was a real question BTW, too many sarcastic statement here so that it's hard sometimes to ask a REAL question :D

Thank you



That is impressive, but it would help to know how many competing Android phones sold for 99 cents, and what their specs were.



Yes, fewer models might let them do better in charts that compare individual model sales.

However, since Android's user share is far above that of Apple's in the US, they must be doing something right by offering more choice. That same comScore report says Android now has 47%.

326276

Each sales model has its pros and cons.

When you gang up with a lot of smartphone manufacturer, flooding market with lots and lots of new model every single months, or weeks .. it's easy to LOOK dominant, you know?

But the question now is:


Do all Android smartphone integrated?
Can you install any ICS update on ANY modern Android smartphone without ROM flashing or anything like that? Because you know .. they're all have Android logo on it, they're supposed to eat anything called "Android update" .. Even RIM can still do that, one OS update for all BB model .. well only for modern BB hardware, but you get my point, it's still one OS for all.
Can ANY Android smartphone running ANY apps from Android Market?

lucasmonger
Mar 2, 2012, 11:11 PM
Whoa hold on there, I'm a bit confused. This table came from Jan 2011-Dec 2011, right?

I thought on the last quarterly report, Apple stated that iPhone 4S was a superb hit and it was the most successful iPhone sales ever! The numbers trump any previous quarterly report and that sales were dominated by 4S during 2011 Christmas holiday.

But from the graph I see that 4S even not in #2, while it is supposed to be #1 smartphone in US, right? Anyone care to enlighten me? That was a real question BTW, too many sarcastic statement here so that it's hard sometimes to ask a REAL question :D

Thank you



The 4S has only been on the market since October while the 4 and 33GS have been sold all year long. The $99 and Free US prices have a big part in converting people who previously couldn't afford a new iPhone. Give the 4s a few more quarters and you'll see it become #1 in 2012 unless the 5 comes early (which doesn't seem likely as no rumors have surfaced yet.