Is anyone conciously putting off getting a Mac now and opting for the Mactels?

[MUCKYFINGERS]

-nt-

[goodtimes5]

No. I would prefer a 100% Mac.

[Tamer Brad]

No. I would prefer a 100% Mac.

You live in an interesting dimension where logic is warped, and hamburgers eat people.

[aquajet]

No. I would prefer a 100% Mac.

And what must a Mac have to make it 100% Mac?

[skubish]

no I am waiting until I have the cash. I think it will be years before we see much difference between PPC Macs and Intel Macs.

[smitty078]

I'm specifically waiting until the mactels make their debut and then purchasing the most recent PPC mac that was before them. I know I will not be buying a first gen mactel if ever at all.

[wdlove]

No. I would prefer a 100% Mac.

I think that a Mac is 100% when it comes from Apple. Components are switched at different points and that doesn't change the way it operates.

I'm still ambivalent. My wife wants me to purchase something in case my Power Mac would die.

[Spanky Deluxe]

No, if anything the Intel transition has got me even more keen to get a mac now, allbeit a low end one (i.e. the mac mini) to play with OSX and then to possibly get an x86 PowerBook to replace my Dell laptop when they come out.

[unfaded]

Somewhat. Mostly I'm making sure my eMac lasts until there are Intel Powerbooks. But it's not because it's an Intel. I was going to wait until something faster than a G4 was put into a Powerbook, and now it just happens to be Intel.

So technically, yes I'm waiting, but not specifically because it's Intel. Just because it's (bound to be) considerably faster than what I have now.

[Duff-Man]

Duff-Man says....wow, now here's a thread that breaks into new uncharted territory... :rolleyes: .....oh yeah!

[Alasta]

Initially, my gut reaction was that I would hold off replacing my machine and wait for the first Intel product. However, having followed all the discussion since the announcement, I've now pretty much decided to buy a new iBook as soon as they release the next PPC update.

You might be interested in seeing my comments here (http://homepage.mac.com/alastair6/Personal2.html).

[Capt Underpants]

I am. My current powerbook will last me until the Powerbook line gets an intel upgrade, and probably even longer.

[johnny1290]

My iBook is about to croak, and instead of getting a new one i'm gonna buy a cheap $500 Toshiba instead....It's a pile but it'll do until the intel iBook is released, sometime next year? I hope...I just can't see buying a g4 this late in the game for 900 bucks or whatever

[Lacero]

I bought my PowerBook and G5 last year, so by the time I need to upgrade, it'll be the perfect time to pick up a Mactel.

[cbiffle]

I was actually on the verge of selling my iMac (G5 1.8) and iBook (G4 800) to buy a new Powerbook. I realized that I use the iBook almost exclusively -- portability rocks -- but it's showing its age.

(Heh. Showing its age. It's not even two years old. Apple needs to update the laptops; but I digress.)

Now I'm sticking with my current machines in the hopes of a Centrino Powerbook. Sure, it'll be hell to code assembler for, but I've done x86.

[Les Kern]

Nope, not at all. I just purchased 250 laptops and a Mini decked out for me. Never chase the technology. Get what you need when you need it.

[hhlee]

Wholeheartedly agree. I'm eagerly awaiting the rev b mactels. I'm consciously looking for budget hardware off forums - I mean come on, you can get slightly older rev hardware for so cheap! Put that money in an ingdirect savings account for 2 years and let it grow for that mactel.



Never chase the technology. Get what you need when you need it.

[wdlove]

My iBook is about to croak, and instead of getting a new one I'm gonna buy a cheap $500 Toshiba instead....It's a pile but it'll do until the intel iBook is released, sometime next year? I hope...I just can't see buying a g4 this late in the game for 900 bucks or whatever

Your actually going to change to a Windows based PC. :eek: Do you already have the needed software? Any concern about the Rev. A Intel Mac?

[Lacero]

Is anyone conciously putting off getting a Mac now and opting for the Mactels?As opposed to unconsciously?

[Koodauw]

Just bought a new PB, and intend to buy a new Mactel when they come out too. Pentium M sounds interesting.

[DakotaGuy]

Wholeheartedly agree. I'm eagerly awaiting the rev b mactels.

I highly doubt you will see the whole "revision" thing when the Mactels come out. You will get a Mactel PC and it will be slowly improved as time goes on. Think PC world. They don't make "revisions" to a product. They introduce it and when faster chips or feature improvements come they add them. Since Apple is now using the same hardware, they can't just sit there and wait for the improvements to pile up and then introduce "rev b." They will be "fluid" like the PC business is now.

[SurfinSHELL23]

I am. Well like someone posted earlier, I had planned to wait until G5 or whatever gets into the PowerBooks. I had bet on sometime next school year. Now it'll probably end up being next summer, maybe it will have some of the bugs out of it by then. I already have a Mac mini that I got in Jan 05 and a B&W G3 to thinker with, so I can pacify my desire for Macs until then.

[iindigo]

Personally I'm buying a top-notch iMac G5 to weather me over until the Intel PowerMacs are released in 2007 because although my current iMac G4 is great it's starting to lack in some areas...

[Plastic Avatar]

I had money saved up to buy a new Mac when the Mactel keynote hit. The announcement made me think a lot about my upcoming purchase- which machine, which version, etc.

Turns out any model/version I bought would do what I needed. Mini, eMac, iBook, iMac, Powerbook, Power Mac, it didn't matter, they all run the software I need. I did, however, decide to go with something in a G5. I might as well get the newest/best chip generation I can afford, right?

Personally I'm buying a top-notch iMac G5 to weather me over until the Intel PowerMacs are released in 2007 because although my current iMac G4 is great it's starting to lack in some areas...

I did like the G4 iMacs. I hope I can afford to have one for kicks in a few years :D

[GUSTO]

I got a Rev A Dual 2Ghz G5 and to be honest I was going to buy myself a PC for the simple fact it has more games on offer. But when steve anounced the Mactels I think I will hold off til they hit in 2007 and by then I will have best of both worlds :D

[law guy]

I'll be happy with my Macs for years to come - so the timing is fine for me.

BUT It does look like sales are a bit off - I note that the apple top sellers has only the iMac down at 20 and tiger and otherwise you'd think Apple only sold iPods from the list. In the past I've seen iMacs up higher with minis in there too. PMs sometimes after updates.

[ksz]

...Since Apple is now using the same hardware, they can't just sit there and wait for the improvements to pile up and then introduce "rev b." They will be "fluid" like the PC business is now.
Since Apple has historically designed their own motherboards I assumed they would continue to do so even after the switch to Intel processors. But I think you raise a common sense argument -- why should Apple continue to design their own boards when hundreds of choices are available from the various motherboard manufacturers? Maybe Apple will continue to design their own laptop motherboards, but use third party boards for desktops where standard AT/X and BTX form factors will suffice.

[mxpiazza]

Since Apple has historically designed their own motherboards I assumed they would continue to do so even after the switch to Intel processors. But I think you raise a common sense argument -- why should Apple continue to design their own boards when hundreds of choices are available from the various motherboard manufacturers? Maybe Apple will continue to design their own laptop motherboards, but use third party boards for desktops where standard AT/X and BTX form factors will suffice.

i'm guessing Apple is going to use an on-board chip solution for installation of OSX, any mobos without the chip would not be able to install OSX. this would pretty much insure apple's development of their own mobos, or be extremely hands-on with a third party development team to make sure OSX wasn't on a dell or anything... thats my best guess.

[ReanimationLP]

I've decided I'm gonna buy me an iBook G4 to hold me over until the Powerbooks are transferred to Intel, then I'm buying a PB. :D

[wrldwzrd89]

I'm not planning on buying a new Mac until 2007 anyway, when all the Mac lines will have Intel processors inside...so it doesn't really matter.

[Lacero]

I won't be upgrading my dual G5 till summer of 2007 as well. The G5s are so fast that I don't really see the need to upgrade in the near future.

[mkrishnan]

It has pushed me in the direction of waiting for the smallest iBook / PB (12" or whatever replaces it) to get Intel processors, but if a compelling deal comes along to trade up to a faster G4 iBook, I might just do it.

[ksz]

i'm guessing Apple is going to use an on-board chip solution for installation of OSX, any mobos without the chip would not be able to install OSX. this would pretty much insure apple's development of their own mobos, or be extremely hands-on with a third party development team to make sure OSX wasn't on a dell or anything... thats my best guess.
I was thinking about that too, but then Apple will not prevent users from installing Windows. To install Windows, you need a motherboard with standard PC firmware (BIOS), but to install Mac OS you will probably need some additional proprietary firmware. Apple can still use commodity motherboards and rewrite or extend the firmware for dual OS support.

[Abstract]

People are waiting because they're afraid of buying into old technology, as they know Intels are coming. However, its not like the entire Mac world will make a miraculous, simultaneous switch over to the Intel Macs, only those people who buy new systems in 1 years time. The large large majority of us will still use G4s and G5s. Nobody will be left behind if they buy a Mac now.

If you bought a Mac today, you'll still get 3-4 years of use out of it and STILL not be behind the technology curve.

[mxpiazza]

I was thinking about that too, but then Apple will not prevent users from installing Windows. To install Windows, you need a motherboard with standard PC firmware (BIOS), but to install Mac OS you will probably need some additional proprietary firmware. Apple can still use commodity motherboards and rewrite or extend the firmware for dual OS support.

i'm sure apple will mod PC motherboards and put a chip on them that OSX installer will check for... Apple won't "officially support" windows on their machines, but they would be stupid not to make it so windows runs on their boxes, and it will...

[me_94501]

-nt-
Not putting it off at all. If all goes well (and if I have $520 more in cash) I'll have a new eMac by the end of next month.