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Karlov
Mar 21, 2012, 01:05 PM
Good day to all.
I use the MBA in 2011, and sometimes have to work with Photoshop 5 and other "big" products. Sometimes, when my MBA is loaded - it is heated to 70 degrees Celsius. The same happens when playing Heroes 3 in the Vine

As you increase your productivity?

I know that you can not replace the memory for a larger volume, so you have to think about the reduction of



GGJstudios
Mar 21, 2012, 01:08 PM
Good day to all.
I use the MBA in 2011, and sometimes have to work with Photoshop 5 and other "big" products. Sometimes, when my MBA is loaded - it is heated to 70 degrees Celsius.
That's quite normal.

As you increase your productivity?

I know that you can not replace the memory for a larger volume, so you have to think about the reduction of
The rest of your post doesn't make sense. Please clarify.

maflynn
Mar 21, 2012, 01:08 PM
Its not the memory that's causing the spike in the heat but processing and/or GPU overhead. There's little you can do for those intensive apps.

Anyways 70c is not that bad, my MBP approaches that when doing intensive work and the fans ramp up as needed.

simsaladimbamba
Mar 21, 2012, 01:12 PM
I know that you can not replace the memory for a larger volume, so you have to think about the reduction of

Do you mean RAM or HDD capacity?
"Memory" is not the same as "hard drive capacity":

What is Computer Memory? RAM vs Hard Drive (http://www.weeno.com/art/0699/87.html)
RAM vs. Hard Disk (http://www.tekmom.com/buzzwords/zdramvhd.html)

It is recommended, to have 10 to 20 % of the HDD's capacity unused.

Upgrading RAM in MacBooks and MacBook Pros (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=12403893&postcount=6)
MacBook, MacBook Pro: Replacing the Hard Disk Drive, transferring data to the new HDD (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=12025519&postcount=2)

the guide includes:

0. Identify your MacBook or MacBook Pro
1. Getting a new HDD
2. Guides to replace the internal HDD with a newer one
3. Transferring data from the old HDD to the new HDD
4. Using the optical disk drive (ODD) slot for placing an SSD or HDD inside the MB/P (OPTIBAY)

Karlov
Mar 21, 2012, 01:26 PM
Do you mean RAM or HDD capacity?
"Memory" is not the same as "hard drive capacity":

What is Computer Memory? RAM vs Hard Drive (http://www.weeno.com/art/0699/87.html)
RAM vs. Hard Disk (http://www.tekmom.com/buzzwords/zdramvhd.html)

It is recommended, to have 10 to 20 % of the HDD's capacity unused.


Sorry for incorrectly. I mean the RAM.
HDD - I quite enough.

if necessary, I use smsFanControl to lower the temperature CPU.

simsaladimbamba
Mar 21, 2012, 01:27 PM
Sorry for incorrectly. I mean the RAM.
Ah, and I didn't see, that this was the MBA sub.forum.

Karlov
Mar 21, 2012, 01:28 PM
Macbook Air middle 2011. it can not itself change the RAM

GGJstudios
Mar 21, 2012, 01:29 PM
if necessary, I use smsFanControl to lower the temperature CPU.
smcFanControl doesn't lower the CPU temps. It simply raises the minimum fan speed. You don't need any 3rd party app to manage your fans, as your Mac will manage them quite well without your interference. Your temps are quite normal.

Karlov
Mar 21, 2012, 01:32 PM
smcFanControl doesn't lower the CPU temps. It simply raises the minimum fan speed. You don't need any 3rd party app to manage your fans, as your Mac will manage them quite well without your interference. Your temps are quite normal.

But tell me, the end of RAM - is 100 mb. What should I do? use swap?

GGJstudios
Mar 21, 2012, 01:33 PM
But tell me, the end of RAM - is 100 mb. What should I do? use swap?
That doesn't make sense. What are you saying?

Karlov
Mar 21, 2012, 01:33 PM
And this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=12403893) guide no supported mba 2011

GGJstudios
Mar 21, 2012, 01:35 PM
And this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=12403893) guide no supported mba 2011
No, you can't add RAM to your MacBook Air, but that has nothing to do with temperatures or fans.

simsaladimbamba
Mar 21, 2012, 01:36 PM
But tell me, the end of RAM - is 100 mb. What should I do? use swap?

Open Activity Monitor and select All Processes and then sort by Real Mem to show you the process(es) using up your RAM.
Using Activity Monitor to show you CPU and RAM usage

Do you mean your SWAP file or your PAGE OUTS?
Can you be more clear?

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And this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=12403893) guide no supported mba 2011

Yep, I was mistaken. I completely overlooked the AIR part.
Maybe sell or return your Mac and get one with more RAM, if you use that much RAM.
Open Activity Monitor and select All Processes and then sort by Real Mem to show you the process(es) using up your RAM.
Using Activity Monitor to show you CPU and RAM usage

Karlov
Mar 21, 2012, 01:39 PM
No, you can't add RAM to your MacBook Air, but that has nothing to do with temperatures or fans.

I just thought that if there is more memory, applications will use less resources and the processor will be less warm

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Sorry for my English, I'm from Russia and English i know no much.


I just want to improve performance or reduce the resources consumed by the system

simsaladimbamba
Mar 21, 2012, 01:39 PM
I just thought that if there is more memory, applications will use less resources and the processor will be less warm

That is not the case. RAM and CPU are temperature independent, and just because some application uses more RAM, does not mean it needs more CPU power.

GGJstudios
Mar 21, 2012, 01:42 PM
I just thought that if there is more memory, applications will use less resources and the processor will be less warm
As simsaladimbamba (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=516412) said, that's not always true.
I just want to improve performance or reduce the resources consumed by the system
Performance Tips For Mac OS X (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=13817005&postcount=2)

Karlov
Mar 21, 2012, 01:42 PM
That is not the case. RAM and CPU are temperature independent, and just because some application uses more RAM, does not mean it needs more CPU power.
thanks for the clarification!

I use just swap.

What is a memory page?

I heard that they can be placed on the MICs for most proizvoditelsti
is it true?

simsaladimbamba
Mar 21, 2012, 01:44 PM
thanks for the clarification!

I use just swap.

What is a memory page?

I heard that they can be placed on the MICs for most proizvoditelsti
is it true?

Please read this: Mac OS X: Reading system memory usage in Activity Monitor (http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1342) if you can't be bothered to look here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=14427718#post14427718).

GGJstudios
Mar 21, 2012, 01:44 PM
thanks for the clarification!
I use just swap.
What is a memory page?
You don't have to do anything about swapping or memory management. Mac OS X does that automatically.

Mac OS X: Reading system memory usage in Activity Monitor (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1342)


I heard that they can be placed on the MICs for most proizvoditelsti
is it true?
That doesn't make sense, but you don't have to think about swap or memory management.

Karlov
Mar 21, 2012, 01:51 PM
as I often use purge in terminal

Queen6
Mar 21, 2012, 01:51 PM
Try UltraFan this is developed by one of the forum members and does help to reduce temperature under moderate load.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1214206

Elevating the MacBook will also have a positive on temperatures I use Rain Design`s Mstand or iLap, however you can easily improvise. 70C is not too hot for a Mac as previously said, my own MacBoook Pro`s can easily reach 90C and greater with no ill effect.

GGJstudios
Mar 21, 2012, 01:53 PM
as I often use purge in terminal
You don't need to. Let your Mac manage itself. Using purge can reduce performance. Don't do it.

Queen6
Mar 21, 2012, 02:01 PM
as I often use purge in terminal

Dont worry about memory usage it`s not related to temperature and OS X manages memory extremely efficiently. I understand you logic in fewer proceses reducing CPU load best you can really do is to close all applications that are not required.

Data held in RAM will actually help to speed up your machine, reduce HD access and CPU load, by purging the memory you will only have the opposite effect admittedly very minor. Purge will not have a positive effect on the temperature of your system.

Karlov
Mar 21, 2012, 02:50 PM
Thank you all very much. I recently MBA and with OS X, I met the first time. just going through as a new user Apple.
We, Russians, all using Windows only =)
Thank again.

GGJstudios
Mar 21, 2012, 02:55 PM
Thank you all very much. I recently MBA and with OS X, I met the first time. just going through as a new user Apple.
This may be useful: Helpful Information for Any Mac User (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=9848667&postcount=6)
Portables Fast Start: The New User's Guide to Apple Notebooks (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2788)