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cb911
Nov 6, 2002, 06:47 AM
this is awesome, i just saw Beej post it in another thread in general discussion, and i just thought that it deserved it's very own thread. :D

it's a 3D file system browser, utilising 3 dimensions to browse the directory hierachies.

anyway, have a look, it's very cool.

http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/macwarriors/eoh2k2/3dosx/

edesignuk
Nov 6, 2002, 07:05 AM
That looks sweet!
It'll eat up system resources, but it just looks so damn kool! Can't wait to get home a give it a go.

Mr. Anderson
Nov 6, 2002, 07:15 AM
With this thread, it makes it the 3rd or 4th one on the subject. Have you used it? It doesn't really add all that much to you computer and probably won't be useful. You'll load it, play with it and realize that its much easier using the Finder and revert back after a certain amount of time inversely proportional to your maturity/intelligence level......

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cb911
Nov 6, 2002, 07:17 AM
the Finder at the moment has alot functionality, but with 3DOSX you can see the future of interfaces today! :D

i'm going to use it for a week and see how i go...

Mr. Anderson
Nov 6, 2002, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by cb911
the Finder at the moment has alot functionality, but with 3DOSX you can see the future of interfaces today! :D

i'm going to use it for a week and see how i go...

Its also something that was done on the SGI machines in the 90s, its nothing special. And sure its a possible future, but like I mentioned in the other thread, we have years before it becomes truly useful.

I used it for 10 minutes and uninstalled it. If you last a week of constant use I'll be surprised.

But don't get me wrong, I do think its cool, its just not efficient or particularly effective.

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cb911
Nov 6, 2002, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by dukestreet


Its also something that was done on the SGI machines in the 90s, its nothing special. And sure its a possible future, but like I mentioned in the other thread, we have years before it becomes truly useful.

I used it for 10 minutes and uninstalled it. If you last a week of constant use I'll be surprised.

But don't get me wrong, I do think its cool, its just not efficient or particularly effective.

D

i'm only using it 'cause it's cool. don't forget, i've got a Windows XP theme installed as well... maybe now you understand a bit more about what i'm like, or not.:p :D

and where is this other thread? i'd like to have a read.

Mr. Anderson
Nov 6, 2002, 07:32 AM
Do a search on 3DOSX, its actually mentioned several times, but the first was about March or so.

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http://forums.macrumors.com/search.php?action=showresults&searchid=45353&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

cb911
Nov 6, 2002, 07:39 AM
oh well, the latest version was just released in April. the next release should be even better, and maybe someone with a dualie will try it...

teabgs
Nov 6, 2002, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by cb911
oh well, the latest version was just released in April. the next release should be even better, and maybe someone with a dualie will try it...

my dualie and I agree......there is no point and its not even that cool.

The icons arent even truly 3D...yeah, it looks kinda neat...but only kinda. Its not really that attractive looking. Its just "3D"....whatever.


I lasted maybe 2 minutes and its off my computer for good now.

Its got potential, but the design isnt that hot and its not very functional at all.

sparkleytone
Nov 6, 2002, 09:33 AM
this software isn't going to get anywhere without active development tho...the cvs repository looks like it hasnt been updated in about 5 months.

seems more like a proof of concept app than anything else.

springscansing
Nov 6, 2002, 02:25 PM
I'd like to give it a whirl, but I'm still on OS 9 for freakin Reaktor *bashes stuff*.

I'm sure its not as good as the finder, but it looks like its worth 5 minutes of my time.

King Cobra
Nov 6, 2002, 04:59 PM
I downloaded this a while back and tried to use it, but I couldn't figure it out. How do you get anything to appear?

Since then I would have to try to try to use it.

But I think given what the program does, which really isn't anything productive, you would have to be a top dog junkie to use it for a long time.

scem0
Nov 6, 2002, 05:06 PM
Looks cool, but what is the point?

madamimadam
Nov 6, 2002, 08:02 PM
God that program ****s me off... I used it a while back and it looked really cool but you just can use it effectively

BenderBot1138
Nov 6, 2002, 10:52 PM
Hmmm looks like the system portrayed in the screenshots has about 20 files and folders... what about the other 99.9999 % of us? A 3D circle of a thousand files.... hmmm ... might be interesting...

:cool:

cb911
Nov 7, 2002, 12:09 AM
it displays files fine. just have a play with it and you'll see...

i'm starting to get annoyed with it now though. it's already crashed twice on me today... ggrrrr.:rolleyes: :mad:

Mr. Anderson
Nov 7, 2002, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by cb911
i'm starting to get annoyed with it now though. it's already crashed twice on me today... ggrrrr.:rolleyes: :mad:

you've still probably used it more than most people, I'm quite amazed actually that you're sticking with it. Its a total waste of time - except maybe showing people who are easily impressed......:rolleyes:

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oldMac
Nov 7, 2002, 08:39 AM
People do this every few years. I guess that they have a lot of time to waste.

My favorite example of a totally useless use of 3-D was "Turbo Gopher VR". For those of you who remember gopher, imagine gopher presented with this whole 3-d look, cheesy bitmaps pasted onto the "walls" of the gopher link "polygons". And get this... there were plans for 3-d spatial stereo sound so that you could make your link make noise and hear it get louder/softer/ear-to-ear as you "walked" around the environment.

Stupid, but somebody took the time to do it and probably thought it was the best thing since sliced bread.

agreenster
Nov 7, 2002, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by dukestreet


Its also something that was done on the SGI machines in the 90s, its nothing special


If you remember the first Jurassic Park movie, one of the end sequences shows the girl 'hacking' into an SGI to lock the doors (or something) and save the day. She was using this 3D navigation system.

cb911
Nov 7, 2002, 02:49 PM
okay, i admit it. i've stopped using 3DOSX. but i'm still going to check for updates. i wouldn't mind using it except for the crashes...

Chisholm
Nov 7, 2002, 06:39 PM
I remember something about a web search engine technology that used the 3d look of this software. I saw it on ZDTV one day when I was playing sick. A French company designed it I think. It looked pretty neat, not sure about how functional it would be. If anyone can figure out what I'm trying to describe, let me know.:p

cheers!
-john

jasonM
Nov 8, 2002, 01:14 PM
Looks to me like someone is trying to make a justifiable use of Quartz. Looks good to me. I'll have to try it when I get home.

Gelfin
Nov 8, 2002, 02:25 PM
It's an interesting toy, a fun project (and it was around before Quartz), but there are some real problems with making a real 3D interface that doesn't violate nearly every principle of good user interface design. Believe me, nontechnical people have trouble understanding 2D window layering ("It erased my document!" -- "No, you just switched to another program."). You try explaining to them that they can't find what they're looking for because it's "behind" them, and their heads are going to explode. Then there are the people who just don't have good spatial sense. I know several people who fall into that category, and computer generated 3D environments really confuse them.

cb911
Nov 9, 2002, 06:03 AM
sure there are people that would have a tough time understanding it, but i'm going to keep an eye out for anymore 3D interface stuff. i love it. :D and i really hope that someone in the future decides to put a decent amount of effort into making a functional 3D file browsing environment.:)

scem0
Nov 9, 2002, 08:57 PM
3d internet could get very interesting. I would like to see where
that goes more then anything.

insidedanshead
Nov 9, 2002, 11:52 PM
The entire idea of 3-D navigation and console interaction is actually pretty stupid.. considering a monitor is 2-d.. .. until we see some 3-d monitors (which i know are in the works.. ive seen a few threads regarding them) 3-d navigation will never be as effecient as the navigation we have now...

how about like if you could walk into your computer and grab files and stuff.. that would be fun.. yeah i'm going no where with this one. i'm gonna go eat a corndog.

barkmonster
Nov 10, 2002, 07:06 AM
all you'd need is a touch screen LCD and speach control and a mac running this 3DOSX browser would look so far ahead of windows M$ might aswell as give up and concentrate on heXbox :-)

It does remind me of the scene on jurrassic park though, I remember seeing that they were all macs and the girl saying something like "wow, it's a unix system" and this whole 3D browser thing was being used.

it looks cool but I can't see it being practical, more something to show off you're mac.

scem0
Nov 10, 2002, 01:34 PM
LOL, that was a funny scene. The little girl saves the day when
she flies through the 3d computer system and she is like 10 years
old. Funny stuff.

It reminds me of how in 'Hackers' the main character 'hacks' by
flying through the city on his computer... More funny stuff.

Mr. Anderson
Nov 10, 2002, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by insidedanshead
The entire idea of 3-D navigation and console interaction is actually pretty stupid.. considering a monitor is 2-d.. .. until we see some 3-d monitors (which i know are in the works.. ive seen a few threads regarding them) 3-d navigation will never be as effecient as the navigation we have now...


I don't totally agree here. I think the implimentation of a 3D navigation system can easily be developed and *used* as a standard - it just hasn't happened yet due to the overhead associated to displaying 3D. Think of it less as being all emersed in a 3D environment, but the file management system we have now (which like you said works fine) but with 3D elements and relationships. So folders and files might have the same relationship (with options of course) but use 3D objects for representations. Also, if you entered a folder that contained 3D objects, they could have 'thumbnails' of those objects rotating in 3D so you can see what the file is just by looking at it.

Hmm, got me thinking here. If I get around to it, I might make a 3D navigation system in flash and see if I can make it look like what I envision. Don't hold your breath on seeing it anytime soon, though.

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