Safari 6.0 vs Chrome Version X

[EnzoAmata]

I love Chrome, I try and use Safari but I have Chrome setup just so nice that I find it hard to move - although with that said, the new tighter integration with the OS which Safari will have and the share sheets I want to use it.

I just wish I had a newtab page within Safari which was like Chrome, I have that setup with quick links to Google+ and Mail, I know I can set them up in the topsites but it's just not as asthetic as the nice icons that Chrome uses.

On thing I have gotten very use to is right clicking a link and having at the top of the menu 'Open Link in New Tab' - in Safari it's the second from the top and by pure habit I always find myself opening things in new windows rather than tabs :mad:

The vast amount of extension for Chrome which don't seem to slow it down, also seems like one more plus for using Chrome over Safari.

Anyone share these points of view or think I'm nit picking?

[CodeBreaker]

I love Chrome, I try and use Safari but I have Chrome setup just so nice that I find it hard to move - although with that said, the new tighter integration with the OS which Safari will have and the share sheets I want to use it.

I just wish I had a newtab page within Safari which was like Chrome, I have that setup with quick links to Google+ and Mail, I know I can set them up in the topsites but it's just not as asthetic as the nice icons that Chrome uses.

On thing I have gotten very use to is right clicking a link and having at the top of the menu 'Open Link in New Tab' - in Safari it's the second from the top and by pure habit I always find myself opening things in new windows rather than tabs :mad:

The vast amount of extension for Chrome which don't seem to slow it down, also seems like one more plus for using Chrome over Safari.

Anyone share these points of view or think I'm nit picking?

I don't think it is a good idea to switch to Safari just for the share sheets. I mean, that's the only think you said you like about Safari :)

[EnzoAmata]

I don't think it is a good idea to switch to Safari just for the share sheets. I mean, that's the only think you said you like about Safari :)

Not only that but the deeper integration with iCloud.

[CodeBreaker]

Not only that but the deeper integration with iCloud.

Chrome has cloud syncing, and runs on all platforms. I have not tested it, but it should work as advertised.

I am using Safari since v 3.x and never felt like using anything else. I would suggest you spend a week with it and see for yourself what works better for you.

[EnzoAmata]

This setting of being able to use the home button to get back to topsites has made a big difference, it's a kinda shortcut to the Chrome newtab page.

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[ErikGrim]

Safari 6 > Chrome

Chrome is slow and buggy in my experience. The amount of Sad Mac tabs I get is just ludicrous. Safari never crashes or slows down and the share sheet has changed my world.

I'm a web front end developer who spends all day in the latest and earlier versions of all the major browsers so your mileage may vary.

[kristoffer4]

I also think I am going to switch. The new Safari finally has all the features I love in Chrome most of all the unified omnibar. ;)

[petvas]

The new Safari is really great. Speed, smoothness, iCloud integration. It works amazing and is by far thebest browser on Mountain Lion for me.

[BlindSoul]

I have also moved to Safari about a month ago. Safari on Mountain Lion works much better than on Lion and I'm really happy with it. I even find it faster than Chrome and let's face it, it looks much better than Chrome.

[Over The Hill]

I don’t see a reason to use some 3rd party web browser when Safari does everything i need.

[irnchriz]

Same, I ONLY use Safari on the Mac and on windows I only use firefox. Not sure what it is I really don't like about Google Chrome but have just never 'got on' with it.

[ixodes]

I've tried to like the latest version of Safari, but it's too little, too late. Chrome is so fast, stable, and has so many useful extensions that it's my favorite by far.

I'm using both the regular version of Chrome, as well as Canary. The true beauty is that I can run them both at the same time which is a huge advantage for me.

The efficiency is what pays off, since I do so much research at work, the faster I can get it done the better. In fact quite candidly, I'm constantly trying other browsers once a month just to see if I'm still using the fastest and best suited for my needs. Even the latest build of Opera still lacks too much.

What others are doing wrong to cause the problems they report with Chrome is a curiosity, as I've had zero issues with it.

Being somewhat of an Apple purist I wish I could say I like Safari best, but I'd be lying. I'll just keep trying it from time to time to see if it's caught up with the rest. Other than my obvious preference and longtime love of Macs, I'm brand neutral. Especially in the present environment where we're all working in a highly dynamic fast paced world.

Therefore speaking only for myself, I'm interested in speed, efficiency, usefulness & stability. I don't care who makes it :)

[EnzoAmata]

I guess I'll just have to wait till Mountain Lion to see if the new features are enough to hold me using Safari, I right now am using Chrome and I want to use Safari as stated before, but like the previous post I just can't see past Chrome with the way the implement extensions and the newtab page.

[Lvivske]

I'm considering switching, I've been toying with Safari on this MBA I use from time to time, but am not sold on the switch just yet

The addition of an omibar is great, but I feel that Safari development just goes at a snails pace, and while it may be faster than Chrome for java at this second, in a few months it'll be falling behind again (and Chrome will come out with some new great feature)

[EnzoAmata]

I'm considering switching, I've been toying with Safari on this MBA I use from time to time, but am not sold on the switch just yet

The addition of an omibar is great, but I feel that Safari development just goes at a snails pace, and while it may be faster than Chrome for java at this second, in a few months it'll be falling behind again (and Chrome will come out with some new great feature)

That's true the development cycle of Safari is not going to be as fast as Chrome, it would be wise for Apple to assign a team to focus on the browser, as the browser is maybe the most powerful app on all machines.

[Discaciate]

I just can't use a browser that doesn't have pinned/app tabs...
I kinda got addicted to them.

Safari 6 is great, but I cannot get it to work fine with my workflow without the use of the pinned apps.

[Yamcha]

I love using Chrome on Windows & iOS, but on Mac OS I just feel like Safari is adequate, It is slower then Chrome currently, but I like the user interface of Safari..

Also IMO Chrome user interface looks ugly, I also find that downloads tend to be slow, I don't know If that has been resolved, but when I download large files the transfer rates are slow..

But Chrome is definitely the fastest browser currently..

[PaulKemp]

Testing the GM of Mountain Lion i just had to start up Safari and see for myself.

Im a Chrome fan indeed, and since im using 3 or 4 different computers on a daily basis, both OS X and different Windows versions, I think I will stick with it. The extension sync, bookmarks and passwords is just too much to give up.

However, testing Safari 6.0 now on ML. And it does seem impressive.

[EnzoAmata]

Testing the GM of Mountain Lion i just had to start up Safari and see for myself.

Im a Chrome fan indeed, and since im using 3 or 4 different computers on a daily basis, both OS X and different Windows versions, I think I will stick with it. The extension sync, bookmarks and passwords is just too much to give up.

However, testing Safari 6.0 now on ML. And it does seem impressive.

That's what I'm hoping for is that in Mountain Lion Safari has done some catching up with Chrome.

[MarcBook]

Now that Chrome is out on iOS, I've lost all temptation to go back to Safari (iCloud tabs was luring me).

In my opinion, Chrome is a faster, better designed and more powerful browser (thanks to extensions), plus the iOS versions are also very well-designed. I just wish you could set it as the default browser on iOS, as many others do...

[satchow]

All 4 releases of Chrome are f'd up on the Retina MBP.
Stable Release - No Retina support. All Fuzzy everythings.
Dev/Canary/Beta - Flash Videos in fullscreen only fill up the top left quadrant of the screen.

I was using Canary until it all of a sudden got that bug, then I switched to the Dev channel. Then yesterday the Dev channel's version got "upgraded" and the flash bug appeared in it.

Ridiculous how the Canary bug was documented weeks ago, and they decide to push out the same bug to the dev channel. Very frustrating. Get your act together Google.

[steve-p]

On thing I have gotten very use to is right clicking a link and having at the top of the menu 'Open Link in New Tab' - in Safari it's the second from the top and by pure habit I always find myself opening things in new windows rather than tabs :mad:
If you think that's annoying, if you were a long term Firefox user you would know that they arbitrarily swapped the order over without any warning a while back, between version updates. After that unnecessary confusion I just started to use command click instead, so they can change the order all they like now for all I care. I moved to Safari full time since then anyhow.

[MacRenegade]

On thing I have gotten very use to is right clicking a link and having at the top of the menu 'Open Link in New Tab' - in Safari it's the second from the top and by pure habit I always find myself opening things in new windows rather than tabs :mad:

Holding down the Cmd key while clicking a link in Safari will open it in a new tab.

[Watabou]

Is there a way to pin tabs in Safari? I would switch from Firefox if I could do that.

[Cinder6]

I imagine certain things have been answered (haven't read the entire thread), but:

Installing Glims will give you some extra features in Safari, such as middle click (or command+click) to close a tab (in addition to the default option of command+clicking a link to open it in a background tab).

How is topsites in Chrome better than Safari? I've always found Chrome's version annoyingly restrictive. You can't have more than 8, you can't pin them (which you used to be able to do), they don't have live previews, and they simply don't look as nice.

I love Chrome on Windows (except for the most visited page, which has become useless due to Google not allowing you to customize it anymore...why it needs 3 links to my email is beyond me), I just can't like it on OS X. There's a certain lack of polish to it--small inconsistencies with the rest of the OS that make it less nice to use. It does have a few features I wish Safari had, but they're not enough to get me to switch.

[DarwinOSX]

Chrome has cloud syncing, and runs on all platforms. I have not tested it, but it should work as advertised.

I am using Safari since v 3.x and never felt like using anything else. I would suggest you spend a week with it and see for yourself what works better for you.

Chrome does not have iCloud support and never will. Thats what people are talking about. If you have iOS devices the addition of more iCloud features in Mountain Lion is fantastic. Makes it really hard to not use all Apple devices which is of course Apples intent.
Googles cloud offerings in general are amateurish compared to what Apple is offering.
I prefer Safari and the new version is very good. Smoother and faster. I use Reader a lot and the Chrome version which is some extension is not nearly as good.
Plus I'm really not interested in Google tracking everything I do through Chrome.
I see why people like Chrome and I've tried switching multiple times but it never works out.

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Therefore speaking only for myself, I'm interested in speed, efficiency, usefulness & stability. I don't care who makes it :)

I don't see anyone saying they care who makes it. Looks like all the Safari users have specific reasons for using it over Chrome.

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I love Chrome on Windows (except for the most visited page, which has become useless due to Google not allowing you to customize it anymore...why it needs 3 links to my email is beyond me), I just can't like it on OS X. There's a certain lack of polish to it--small inconsistencies with the rest of the OS that make it less nice to use. It does have a few features I wish Safari had, but they're not enough to get me to switch.

Agree, I use Chrome on my Work Windows laptop but its' not as good on OS X. Surprising because all you see at Google are Macs for the most part.

[mabaker]

I would not touch Chrome with a 10 feet pole. Google has done so much wrong in the privacy department in the recent years that I do not have the least sympathy for this corporation.

[maclook]

-Back/forward swiping animation rocks
-Download window looks way better. I may be just a noob with Chrome but I hate their download system. It shows a bar at the bottom of the screen. If I (x) that bar, it disappears and I have no idea how to get it reappear. If I recall correctly, I also don't see how fast the download is going and only see the time remaining.
-Chrome randomly asked for access to my contacts, which I denied.

That's really all I care about. If you need extensions, Chrome and Firefox are probably better suited for you. All I need is FastestTube and I'm set. Safari is way more stable for me than before and even when it does crash, it'll reopen right back to where it was at before it crashed so it's not a big deal.

[Watabou]

Yeah Chrome asked for access to my contacts too. Why in the world does it want that? I promptly denied and uninstalled Chrome right away.

I like the extra privacy feature of ML though.

[Macallan82]

I installed the ML GM yesterday and noticed that Chrome forces discrete graphics mode, thus increasing battery drain. Safari does not do this.

[iwan073]

I started using Safari tonight, after being a long time Chrome fan.
And I must say, Safari 6 looks and feels very nice!

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Is it normal for Safari to use this much memory with 1 tab open?

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20057383/Schermafbeelding%202012-07-16%20om%2002.28.17.png

[SlCKB0Y]

Safari 6 > Chrome

Chrome is slow and buggy in my experience. The amount of Sad Mac tabs I get is just ludicrous.

My suggestion would be that there is something wrong with your Chrome, because thats the complete opposite to the experience of myself and many others.

I'd start with your extensions and plugins.

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Yeah Chrome asked for access to my contacts too. Why in the world does it want that?

My guess is it is something to do with either your web patterns or an extension you run, because I've been using Chrome extensively on ML and not been asked yet.

[JohnDoe98]

My guess is it is something to do with either your web patterns or an extension you run, because I've been using Chrome extensively on ML and not been asked yet.

After I installed Chrome it also asked for access to my contacts. I had no exensions and never used it before so it had nothing to do with web patterns. I think this is just the default behavior.

[Mackilroy]

It has never asked for access to my contacts, not on any machine I've ever installed Chrome on.

[MikhailT]

I think it is most likely that the contacts request is related to your form filling settings in Chrome as it probably wants to look up your full name to use in forms.

You won't get this prompt until you reach this type of form.

[JohnDoe98]

I think it is most likely that the contacts request is related to your form filling settings in Chrome as it probably wants to look up your full name to use in forms.

You won't get this prompt until you reach this type of form.

That sounds sensible.

[NZed]

Chrome has been causing kernel panics on my mac. I use to love chrome so much that i download another 2 variants of it which are the original Chromium and RockMelt based on Chrome, and of course, Google Chrome itself. Its really hard to change too, with the same reasons as you and also I'm on an Android and integration with Chrome on android is amazing.

[mactumors]

You can prefer Safari all you want, but you have to recognize that Safari wouldn't be nearly as good as it is if Google hadn't done a goatload of work making Webkit faster for Chrome.

[SlCKB0Y]

Chrome has been causing kernel panics on my mac.

I believe it is the interaction between Chrome/Flash AND the kernel.

If you don't need flash try this:
http://osxdaily.com/2011/05/24/turn-off-flash-chrome/[COLOR="#808080"]

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Chrome does not have iCloud support and never will

That's a pretty big call. I would never under estimate the ability of people out there to reverse engineer APIs/protocols.

[joecool99]

used to have clear cache option in the main menu.
i need this - sucks :-(

[ErikGrim]

I'd start with your extensions and plugins.There's none. But thanks for assuming it is somehow my fault. :rolleyes:

[SlCKB0Y]

thanks for assuming it is somehow my fault. :rolleyes:

Really? How did you extrapolate that? Have you personally coded any extensions?

I was actually trying to help you.

Go and take your medication...

[ErikGrim]

Really? How did you extrapolate that? Have you personally coded any extensions?
Funny you should ask… (http://safariextensions.tumblr.com/post/725428376/post-facebook-zen-06-22-10)

Now stop being so bleeping condescending and crawl back into your hole.

[MacRenegade]

Funny you should ask… (http://safariextensions.tumblr.com/post/725428376/post-facebook-zen-06-22-10)

Now stop being so bleeping condescending and crawl back into your hole.

OMG yes! xD The hilarity!

[SlCKB0Y]

Funny you should ask… (http://safariextensions.tumblr.com/post/725428376/post-facebook-zen-06-22-10)


I meant for CHROME and ones which might be causing ISSUES for CHROME....but I think you know that.

Mate, read back through the posts, you're the one who decided to start being a jerk off in response to me genuinely trying to offer you a suggestion as to a cause of your problem. You're just not big enough to admit you took what I said the wrong way and ran with it.

[ErikGrim]

I meant for CHROME and ones which might be causing ISSUES for CHROME....but I think you know that.You ought to know when you have been owned and just stop making yourself look worse.

[SlCKB0Y]

You ought to know when you have been owned

How does you knowing some javascript and a safari extension have anything to do with what I or you were talking about? We were talking about Chrome and Chrome extensions...It has absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about...

Sure then buddy... Your e-penis is bigger than mine and I've been "owned" by a photographer who knows enough javascript to make himself a browser extension. He then links to said extension in a completely off-topic manner in order to "own" people.

You win. Keep up with your hardcore html coding pwnage.

[ErikGrim]

How does you knowing some javascript and a safari extension have anything to do with what I or you were talking about? We were talking about Chrome and Chrome extensions...It has absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about...

Sure then buddy... Your e-penis is bigger than mine and I've been "owned" by a photographer who knows enough javascript to make himself a browser extension. He then links to said extension in a completely off-topic manner in order to "own" people.

You win. Keep up with your hardcore html coding pwnage.
Safari and Chrome extensions are pretty much exactly the same. But keep embarrassing yourself forum troll.

[Jb07]

I use Chrome mainly for AdBlock. It's amazing.:D

Also, SICKB0Y and ErikGrim, why can't we be friends?:)

[steve-p]

I use Chrome mainly for AdBlock. It's amazing.:D
Safari also has that extension.

[ErikGrim]

Safari also has that extension.Not to mention that GlimmerBlocker is faster and works on all browsers.

[Sylon]

I like Chrome because I've always used it. I tried Safari, it was just lacking that familiar feel and use. Plus, the extensions. I use YouTubeDownloader all the time. And I know there are options for the Safari that are similar, and I've tried them. They are very clunky and awkward to use, especially that HTML5 one. Safari would load the flash player on YouTube, and then change the player to the HTML5 one. That took extra time, which probably wouldn't be an issue with my home cable internet, but on this slow wifi I have at the moment, its irritating. Plus, the player was annoying itself.

I'll stick with Chrome. It just works for me.

[Nozuka]

since i also use windows machines, it makes more sense to use chrome, that synchronizes my extensions, booksmarks, passwords etc.

not sure what safari can store in the icloud, but the windows version of safari is so bad...

[MikhailT]

IThat's a pretty big call. I would never under estimate the ability of people out there to reverse engineer APIs/protocols.

iCloud is restricted to Apple'sApp Stores. which uses developer IDs of which you have to sign up for.

Anybody trying to bypass this will have their ID/certificate pulled and banned from ever submitting apps again. Nobody's going to try that and especially, not Google.

[Jb07]

Safari also has that extension.

It does?! I didn't know that! I'm still going to stick to Chrome for now. It's much faster than Safari.

[SnowLeopard2008]

Safari > Chrome. Chrome lags like an old grandmother whereas Safari is a Bugatti. Plus, Safari doesn't track my usage like Chrome does. I have an iPhone and iPad, Safari offers better iCloud syncing stuff. Chrome on iPhone is amateur at best. It's got a extremely polished UI but it severely lacks function. Plus, Safari has Reader and is faster. The UI is not as flashy but it looks just as good and performance is even better. Safari FTW.

[ajvizzgamer101]

Safari 6 is my favorite browser of all time. :)

[psykick5]

Safari 6 is great but they just need to fix the graphics tearing issues I'm having on my rMBP. It's getting annoying. Otherwise it's a great browser.

[iwan073]

I really can't choose.
I've been using Chrome for years now, but ever since I installed ML, I've been using Safari.

I get the feeling Chrome is faster, but I kinda like the way Safari looks.
I just want to give it a try.

[ThatGreekMacGuy]

Safari in ML will be the master.

[djtech42]

Safari 6 is awesome! Very fast! I've been using Safari for about 3 years now, and it has really improved recently. I love the speed of it and iCloud tabs. The only thing I can think of that can improve is the icon, which is why I use the Simply Safari icon for it.348576

[MikhailT]

You can prefer Safari all you want, but you have to recognize that Safari wouldn't be nearly as good as it is if Google hadn't done a goatload of work making Webkit faster for Chrome.

I'm pretty sure Apple does a lot for Webkit as well, they're the one who started the webkit2 project that made their browser a better multi-threading app, not to mention they're the one who open-sourced it.

In addition, Chrome's not faster because of webkit alone, it's faster because of the major work that Google have done on their javascript engine, V8.

Apple has a different engine called Nitro Extreme and the javascript improvements they're done in Safari 6 is theirs alone and has nothing to do with Google.

[nonukez]

It really depends on your usage, since at this point the two browsers seem pretty much equal for regular usage. And yes, probably the benchmarks will show that one is better than the other, but unless you're a very heavy user, it won't matter as much.

It's pretty simple: if you use Safari on other iOS devices, Safari 6.0 can't be beat, especially with the tighter integration. If you use Chrome on your iOS devices or have an Android, then Chrome is the obvious answer.

And of course lastly, if you only use your Mac, then it depends on Extensions. Chrome destroys Safari on extensions, no contest. If you rely on extensions, stick with Chrome, because Safari's extensions list has barely grown over the past few years and very infrequent updates.

Also, I see some people saying that Chrome crashes all the time. There must be something malfunctioning with their computer, or a bad installation, since majority of people do not have such problems, myself included. If they did, Chrome wouldn't be so popular on Mac as it is today. Common sense.

[SimonTheSoundMa]

I fail to see your point. Dev and Canary are none release versions. They are going to have bugs like this.

Quit trolling. All 4 releases of Chrome are f'd up on the Retina MBP.
Stable Release - No Retina support. All Fuzzy everythings.
Dev/Canary/Beta - Flash Videos in fullscreen only fill up the top left quadrant of the screen.

I was using Canary until it all of a sudden got that bug, then I switched to the Dev channel. Then yesterday the Dev channel's version got "upgraded" and the flash bug appeared in it.

Ridiculous how the Canary bug was documented weeks ago, and they decide to push out the same bug to the dev channel. Very frustrating. Get your act together Google.

[PaulKemp]

Have been ranting in this very post about how good Chrome is. But on ONE device I personally think Safari is better. But since I'm using different computers every day, Chrome is the best solution. Safari doesnt have the same cross platform sync that Chrome does.

However, since I also have two Macs, I with try Safari with ML. See how everything works between them.

What data form Safari is stored in the cloud? Reading List but what else?

[satchow]

I fail to see your point. Dev and Canary are none release versions. They are going to have bugs like this.

Quit trolling.

Protip: Criticism of a product you like is not "trolling". Stop considering viewpoints that differ from yours as "hating" and try to get educated.