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rmbpuser
Sep 30, 2012, 09:32 AM
i just noticed i have "java preferences" in my utilities folder
thing is i havent installed java and i heard id doesnt come anymore with osx since lion

when i click it it just says i dont have java runtime installed and asks if i wish to install it.so how did this thing get on my machine?



prisstratton
Sep 30, 2012, 10:37 AM
i just noticed i have "java preferences" in my utilities folder
thing is i havent installed java and i heard id doesnt come anymore with osx since lion

when i click it it just says i dont have java runtime installed and asks if i wish to install it.so how did this thing get on my machine?

Java is NOT installed on your system. You clicked "Java Preferences" so it assumes that you want to set these preferences and to do so it needs to download and install Java. So, it is offering to do that for you.

rmbpuser
Sep 30, 2012, 11:07 AM
Java is NOT installed on your system. You clicked "Java Preferences" so it assumes that you want to set these preferences and to do so it needs to download and install Java. So, it is offering to do that for you.

oh so thats normal. good to know, thanks :)

macuser1232
Sep 30, 2012, 11:12 AM
I believe java 1.6 should be preinstalled on your Mac. Then, it's up to you if you want to install java 1.8. I'm running Mountain Lion.

talmy
Sep 30, 2012, 11:18 AM
It's not preinstalled. But if you are using any software that needs it, it will be installed automatically. For me it happens at the first login after the upgrade as I use CrashPlan which starts right away in the background.

Weaselboy
Sep 30, 2012, 12:28 PM
I believe java 1.6 should be preinstalled on your Mac. Then, it's up to you if you want to install java 1.8. I'm running Mountain Lion.

Nope... anything that shipped new with Lion or later does not have Java installed from the factory.

macuser1232
Sep 30, 2012, 09:06 PM
Nope... anything that shipped new with Lion or later has not Java installed from the factory.

Hm weird. What if I upgraded to Mountain Lion from Snow Leopard? Nah. I think I just forgot that I installed it.

doh123
Oct 1, 2012, 08:21 PM
Hm weird. What if I upgraded to Mountain Lion from Snow Leopard? Nah. I think I just forgot that I installed it.

Snow Leopard had it installed by default... so if you had it there and upgraded, then you still had it.

macuser1232
Oct 1, 2012, 08:48 PM
Snow Leopard had it installed by default... so if you had it there and upgraded, then you still had it.

Ok. Even if I did a clean install?

Weaselboy
Oct 2, 2012, 07:45 AM
Snow Leopard had it installed by default... so if you had it there and upgraded, then you still had it.

Ok. Even if I did a clean install?

No. If you had Snow Leopard (which came with Java) and "upgraded" to Lion/Mountain Lion, you would of course still have Java. But if you had Snow Leopard and did a true fresh/clean install of Lion/Mountain Lion by erasing the drive and installing nothing but Lion/Mountain Lion you would not have Java.

So if you have Java under Mountain Lion you either did an upgrade install from Snow Leopard or you installed Java yourself.

DeBilbao
Oct 2, 2012, 08:11 AM
I wrote an article trying to explain how Java works on the Mac platform, and how to be sure that you're using the latest and safer version. Many people doesn't know that even they have downloaded JRE 7, they are actually running JRE 6.

Yo can locate it in How to verify that you're running Oracle's Java JRE 7 and not Apple JRE 6 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1460013)

;) ;) ;)

Weaselboy
Oct 2, 2012, 09:03 AM
I wrote an article trying to explain how Java works on the Mac platform, and how to be sure that you're using the latest and safer version. Many people doesn't know that even they have downloaded JRE 7, they are actually running JRE 6.

Yo can locate it in How to verify that you're running Oracle's Java JRE 7 and not Apple JRE 6 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1460013)

;) ;) ;)

I posted in your thread... but the Java 7 installer automatically makes Java 7 the new browser plugin.