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mynameismatt89
Oct 2, 2005, 11:13 AM
hello all,

I soon will be purchasing an apple laptop, but am deciding between a powerbook or an ibook. I know the ibook is cheaper, but is it better? If i were to choose the ibook what features does it have that the powerbook doesnt, or what features does the powerebook have that the ibook doesnt. Does it have built in wireless internet?

I just want to know if im better off spending less money to get the ibook.

thanks
Matt



Zman5225
Oct 2, 2005, 11:14 AM
hello all,

I soon will be purchasing an apple laptop, but am deciding between a powerbook or an ibook. I know the ibook is cheaper, but is it better? If i were to choose the ibook what features does it have that the powerbook doesnt, or what features does the powerebook have that the ibook doesnt. Does it have built in wireless internet?

I just want to know if im better off spending less money to get the ibook.

thanks
Matt


first, what do you need the laptop to do?

mynameismatt89
Oct 2, 2005, 11:17 AM
well, first of all i need wirless internet, and i will be using it for school work, such as typing up documents. I also will be having a large selection of music on it. I will also be watching DVD's and burning DVD's as well. Nothing too demanding. I just want to know if im missing out, not buying the powerbook.

TheMasin9
Oct 2, 2005, 11:20 AM
CHECK ALL THE COUNTLESS OTHER IBOOK VS POWERBOOK THREADS!!!! THERE IS BOUND TO BE SOMETHING THERE FOR YOU!!! STOP WASTING TIME WITH NEW THREADS ON THE SAME EXACT TOPIC!!!

Deepdale
Oct 2, 2005, 11:29 AM
... I just want to know if im missing out, not buying the powerbook.

Let's put it this way ... both computers are fine for your needs, but going with a PB will result in another $500 (maybe more) dollars missing from your bank account, money which may be understandably tight for a typical student and put to better use elsewhere.

mynameismatt89
Oct 2, 2005, 11:31 AM
Oh i see. Thank you

leekohler
Oct 2, 2005, 11:58 AM
Oh i see. Thank you

Do the iBook. You'll be glad you did. And for your need it's perfect. :)

AP_piano295
Oct 2, 2005, 12:16 PM
CHECK ALL THE COUNTLESS OTHER IBOOK VS POWERBOOK THREADS!!!! THERE IS BOUND TO BE SOMETHING THERE FOR YOU!!! STOP WASTING TIME WITH NEW THREADS ON THE SAME EXACT TOPIC!!!


shut up

AP_piano295
Oct 2, 2005, 12:20 PM
got my ibook 14inch yesterday zero complaints. Love everything about it, and the battery life is insanely good. With a dim screen and it power settings for better battery life I get 6 and a half hours!!! Get the ibook 14in with a superdrive you will be very happy. If the preformance isnt as good as you want then buy a gig of ram and itll still be way cheeper than the powerbook.

Badradio
Oct 2, 2005, 12:23 PM
Aside from the couple of things you'll be missing not getting the powerBook, the iBook offers two major benefits: great wireless reception and kick-ass battery life. It's a great computer for students.

mynameismatt89
Oct 2, 2005, 12:24 PM
wow 6.5 hours. Yea thats what i was planning on doing, upgrading to 1GB of Ram. As well as 80GB hard drive.

gwuMACaddict
Oct 2, 2005, 12:25 PM
shut up

this is real constructive... surprised the mods hadnt't deleted it already.

i think that asking someone to search is an excellent idea. this topic has been discussed over and over again, with many good threads on the issue

aquajet
Oct 2, 2005, 12:28 PM
You could also wait a few weeks and see what new PowerBook comes along. Latest rumors tell us that new PowerMacs and PowerBooks are due sometime this month.

But if you need one now, the iBook is by far the better value. I sold my 14" iBook G4 a year ago and bought a 12" PowerBook. Quite frankly, I should have stuck with the iBook. I liked the bigger screen, easier on my farsighted eyes.

tuartboy
Oct 2, 2005, 12:30 PM
this is real constructive... surprised the mods hadnt't deleted it already.

i think that asking someone to search is an excellent idea. this topic has been discussed over and over again, with many good threads on the issue
I agree, but it might have been a bit harsh.

mynameismatt89
Oct 2, 2005, 12:37 PM
Since i will not be getting one for about a month, then yes, i will wait for the powerbook updates to see what it is they're going to do.

Eluon
Oct 2, 2005, 01:42 PM
CHECK ALL THE COUNTLESS OTHER IBOOK VS POWERBOOK THREADS!!!! THERE IS BOUND TO BE SOMETHING THERE FOR YOU!!! STOP WASTING TIME WITH NEW THREADS ON THE SAME EXACT TOPIC!!!

Please check the original poster's rank. They are a newbie. OK? Most newbies do not know to search the forums. I suggest you not respond to this thread if it bothers you so much. I am sure we have new people joining this board every day, and maybe, just maybe they would like to entertain this question.

I am tired of hearing people complain about this issue. I really am. Just because WE KNOW how to operate the board does not mean a new person does.

Extend some grace and understanding. If you felt led, answer his question. If not, click the back button. It's just that simple.

Oh, and don't use all caps.

mduser63
Oct 2, 2005, 01:43 PM
I've got a 12" PowerBook, and I love it. However, for what you want to do with your computer, I'd say the iBook is the best choice for you. It is almost as powerful as a PowerBook, and much cheaper. For me, the PowerBook's audio in port, slightly better graphics card, and dual monitor capability, along with the slightly faster performance were enough to make it worth it for me. If you're not going to be doing a whole lot of heavy multimedia stuff, the iBook will be fine. You should know that in order to get a DVD burner (Superdrive) in an iBook, you have to buy the 14" model, and that narrows the price gap between the PB and iBook quite a bit.

mynameismatt89
Oct 2, 2005, 01:47 PM
well thanks, and yes i was planning on getting the 14" model

i4k20c
Oct 2, 2005, 02:56 PM
well thanks, and yes i was planning on getting the 14" model

Good choice, unfortunantly if you want to burn DVD's you can not get the 12 inch ibook..

I recently purchased the powerbook and love it! Everyone who purchases these laptops seem to love em so i'm sure you will as well! Only thing i reccomend is, i think you stated but make sure you up the hardrive space. I got the 80 gig powerbook and within 2 weeks, im down to 40 or something.. reasoing being it was really a 75 gig hardrive, plus tiger and other apps took about 10-14 or something and well the rest is music from my old pc!

Bern
Oct 2, 2005, 03:40 PM
I agree, get the largest hard drive you can afford rather than the Poweerbook. As you're a student the iBook will more than suit your needs.

Nereus
Oct 2, 2005, 04:05 PM
I think an iBook will be great for you and your needs. Happy switching! And one more thing, let us know when you have purchased the laptop - I love to read about the first impressions from new switchers ;)

panda
Oct 2, 2005, 05:14 PM
Please check the original poster's rank. They are a newbie. OK? Most newbies do not know to search the forums. I suggest you not respond to this thread if it bothers you so much. I am sure we have new people joining this board every day, and maybe, just maybe they would like to entertain this question.

I am tired of hearing people complain about this issue. I really am. Just because WE KNOW how to operate the board does not mean a new person does.

Extend some grace and understanding. If you felt led, answer his question. If not, click the back button. It's just that simple.

Oh, and don't use all caps.
i second that. in fact the whole world could use a bit more understanding and you voiced that pretty well. thank you.

unless you are hooked on the pbook, you will find the ibook is stunning and better even in somes way... and certainly great value. a nice machine to start your new mac experience with. it also keeps it value nicely, should you decide to upgrade down the line.:)

AP_piano295
Oct 2, 2005, 06:18 PM
i second that. in fact the whole world could use a bit more understanding and you voiced that pretty well. thank you.

unless you are hooked on the pbook, you will find the ibook is stunning and better even in somes way... and certainly great value. a nice machine to start your new mac experience with. it also keeps it value nicely, should you decide to upgrade down the line.:)

I apolagize for imiediately saying shut up to the person who jumped on the new poster. It just really bugs me that people always think they need to play policeman with everyone on these forms, it doesnt hurt anyone if somebody wants to make their own post. And if you dont like the post you dont have to look at it.

bodeh6
Oct 2, 2005, 06:25 PM
If your working with video, max out the Harddrive and also stick in 1GB stick of RAM for max power.

Abstract
Oct 2, 2005, 07:07 PM
i think that asking someone to search is an excellent idea. this topic has been discussed over and over again, with many good threads on the issue

Ask? He typed in all caps.

mjstew33
Oct 2, 2005, 07:29 PM
CHECK ALL THE COUNTLESS OTHER IBOOK VS POWERBOOK THREADS!!!! THERE IS BOUND TO BE SOMETHING THERE FOR YOU!!! STOP WASTING TIME WITH NEW THREADS ON THE SAME EXACT TOPIC!!!
He's a fricken newbie. Scare 'em away would ya?! 12 POSTS! :rolleyes:

:mad:

mjstew33
Oct 2, 2005, 07:31 PM
Anyway, back on topic. If I were you, I would get the 14" iBook. I have one and love it!

Welcome to MacRumors, by the way! :)

mynameismatt89
Oct 4, 2005, 03:25 PM
thank you very much

California
Oct 4, 2005, 05:18 PM
Yeah, this 14" iBook is wonderful. LOVE LOVE LOVE it.

Not as "precious" as my powerbook, which I like to leave stationed on a desk because I'm so afraid of dropping/scratching/bashing it.

Speed is just the same for most functions on iBooks; the one thing that is slightly different is that it is nice to have the wider screen at times on the PB, but for writing papers in school???? Hey, the secret is that the 14" screen is much more scrollable for paper writing than the PBs. Taller screen somehow!

Also, you get an educational discount on whatever you buy, right? Wait a few weeks and you might luck out and get a sale on the iBook. I did.

shane-o-mac
Oct 4, 2005, 11:05 PM
I admit I opted out for the much more expensive option of getting a powerbook. However, in retrospect I think I would saved the cash and got an ibook. Power is serously not an issue for most college users, like myself, and I would love to get 5 hours or more out of my battery life. I would miss the keyboard and smooth metal finish, not too mention the wide 15" display, but for the grand I would of saved..I am sure I could of made do. Just dont get a powerbook because everyone lust after them, they are way too expensive and unecessary for many users including myself....but we live and learn.

huck500
Oct 4, 2005, 11:28 PM
I bought a maxed out 15" PB, then a week later my school (teacher, not student) decided to buy us all 14" iBooks. I seriously considered selling my Powerbook, but ultimately decided not to. Here's why:

- wide screen, I like to watch movies
- 64MB graphics card, better WOW, better Tiger, better overall
- DVD burner (you can get a Superdrive on the iBook, I know...mine is combo)
- 1.5 GHz processor...ok, not that big a deal

biggest reason:

- My school also bought us 15" LCD monitors...with the iBook you get a mirrored desktop, with the PB you get a second desktop. To me, this is a huge deal, especially since we have a new web-based e-mail system (bleh)...I have my mail on one screen, everything else on the other. Edit: and nothing's cooler than two different black and white desktop pictures, one on each monitor, and different screen saver pictures on each...

Now I use my iBook with my
interactive whiteboard. (http://www.smarttech.com/) Sweet, sweet technology... :D

eRondeau
Oct 4, 2005, 11:50 PM
If you're not sure what you want, get the iBook -- you won't regret it. People who buy PowerBooks typically "know" they "need" PowerBooks for whatever reason. The speed and drive capacity of iBook's is so darn close to that of PB's now it's not even worth mentioning. I bought my first Mac -- a 14" 1GHz iBook G4 -- two years ago and I've been 100% satisfied with it. Every day I am more and more impressed with OS X ad the wide range of amazing software that's out there. Three of my friends have since bought iBooks too, and they all feel the same way. You'll love it!

Xeem
Oct 5, 2005, 12:04 AM
There is no reason for you to go Powerbook unless you have to have a widescreen display. The iBook is perfect for your needs.

SurfinSHELL23
Oct 5, 2005, 08:50 AM
Now I use my iBook with my
interactive whiteboard. (http://www.smarttech.com/) Sweet, sweet technology... :D
We have them at school. They seem neat at first, but then they get old. I guess if you have good lesson plans to use with them they're interesting. Plus moving them is a pain because of recalibration. When my computer teacher took over, he used it for a bit but know he's just got a twisted pair diagram written on it in regular whiteboard ink. Same think in our research lab, used as a giant, expensive, mobile whiteboard. Kind of sad when you consider what that money could have been better applied to...

rohitp
Oct 5, 2005, 09:26 AM
I've got a 12" PowerBook, and I love it. However, for what you want to do with your computer, I'd say the iBook is the best choice for you. It is almost as powerful as a PowerBook, and much cheaper. For me, the PowerBook's audio in port, slightly better graphics card, and dual monitor capability, along with the slightly faster performance were enough to make it worth it for me. If you're not going to be doing a whole lot of heavy multimedia stuff, the iBook will be fine. You should know that in order to get a DVD burner (Superdrive) in an iBook, you have to buy the 14" model, and that narrows the price gap between the PB and iBook quite a bit.

Did you know that the iBooks actually are capable of dual display except that it is disabled? Do a search -- there is a free utility that restores this capability. I know, I looked into it when I was considering a new purchase several months ago.

mynameismatt89
Oct 5, 2005, 06:54 PM
ahhh, i still dont know, because with the upcoming powerbook updates, im wondering if they will be a better deal. I guess we will have to wait and see

Laser47
Oct 5, 2005, 07:35 PM
I recently switched from pc to mac a couple weeks ago, i bought a 14" ibook and i love it!. the powerbook is almost exactly on par with the ibook except for the extra 80mhz and 32mb video ram, but thats it. Also the ibook is more durable aswell! A final note, if you choose to get more ram, buy from crucial not apple they charge too much for their ram Crucial is like 56$ for a a 512 stick, from apple its 150$!!!!! for that price you can buy a 1gig stick from crucial. whatever your choice maybe, i would like to welcome you the world of macs! :)

specialist
Oct 6, 2005, 09:09 PM
I need advice on this topic too, so instead of starting a new thread, I'll pop in here.

First of all, this is what I need a Mac for:

I'm a high school senior and I'll be going to college next fall, so I need it to do the basic student stuff (word processing, Internet, music). But I also have an affinity for video editing. I want to use Final Cut Express (I have experience with it from school). I'm guessing I need a good amount of RAM and an external HD. Should I upgrade RAM directly when I order my Mac or buy it somewhere else and do it myself?

Buying times:
My birthday is next month, followed by Christmas in December. I can sort of kick things up a notch by having my Mac as a present for both occasions. I hear PB updates are arriving in December. Are these major updates, or little technical things that an average computer user like me wouldn't recognize?

Overall, I'm looking for something that fits my needs and costs $2,500 or less.

Laser47
Oct 6, 2005, 09:18 PM
Read my post above yours! Apple ram is waayyy too expensive

huck500
Nov 27, 2005, 12:04 PM
We have them at school. They seem neat at first, but then they get old. I guess if you have good lesson plans to use with them they're interesting. Plus moving them is a pain because of recalibration. When my computer teacher took over, he used it for a bit but know he's just got a twisted pair diagram written on it in regular whiteboard ink. Same think in our research lab, used as a giant, expensive, mobile whiteboard. Kind of sad when you consider what that money could have been better applied to...

I use mine with second-graders (8-year-olds)...

Activities like http://edheads.org/activities/simple-machines/ are so fun on the smartboard...and I can display their work up there, have them help me edit movies that we made, the possibilities are endless. I can see how it wouldn't be as great for older students or adults, I guess.

Edit: Mine is not mounted, so I understand the calibration concerns...but my students are very aware of the issue, and they politely chastise one another on the rare cart-bumping occasions.

mojohanna
Nov 27, 2005, 12:16 PM
CHECK ALL THE COUNTLESS OTHER IBOOK VS POWERBOOK THREADS!!!! THERE IS BOUND TO BE SOMETHING THERE FOR YOU!!! STOP WASTING TIME WITH NEW THREADS ON THE SAME EXACT TOPIC!!!
Dude, the only time you are wasting is your own in typing a rediculous post. Leave the dude alone. He is new and looking for help. All you are doing is discouraging a new member from looking for additional help in the future. RELAX!!!!

Clix Pix
Nov 27, 2005, 12:39 PM
Wow, i'm glad that no one was so rude to me when *I* first joined Macrumors and asked a couple of questions..... Whew!

It's not necessary to be rude to someone when they are obviously new and when they maybe aren't that familiar with how to use a web-based forum. The word "search" doesn't exactly leap out in neon lights when someone is looking at the MacRumors screen for the first time..... and it might not occur to someone to do a search, anyway. People are used to asking questions in real time, so the natural thing to do would be to ask a question online....not realizing that forums are archived and that threads do tend to repeat themselves and that answers may already be available.

I hope this young man did get his new computer, whether it be an iBook or a Powerbook and that he wasn't scared away...

OTB

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