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MacRumors
Feb 8, 2013, 02:18 PM
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http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/02/evasion.jpgThe iOS 6.x jailbreak dubbed evasi0n has been installed on seven million iDevices since its Monday morning release (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/04/evasi0n-arrives-as-first-untethered-jailbreak-for-iphone-5-and-ios-6-x/), Cydia administrator Jay Freeman told Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/02/08/evasi0n-is-the-most-popular-jailbreak-ever-nearly-seven-million-ios-devices-hacked-in-four-days/).

That makes evasi0n the most quickly adopted jailbreak software of all time, drawing in far more users than previous jailbreaks, like iOS 5.1.1's Redsn0w, the last available jailbreak before evasi0n.
As of Thursday night, Freeman's alternative app store had received visits from 5.15 million iPhones, 1.35 million iPads, and 400,000 iPod touches that were jailbroken with evasi0n, the first jailbreaking software for the iPhone 5 and iOS 6.1.

Though he doesn't have exact figures for previous jailbreaks, Freeman says that evasi0n has brought Cydia "insanely more new traffic" than the release of the jailbreak tool called Absinthe that worked on some versions of iOS 5.Forbes points out that even one of the more popular jailbreaks of 2011, Jailbreakme3 from Comex (http://www.jailbreakme.com), only drew 1.4 million downloads during its first nine days online. Freeman attributes this to the amount of time that it took to crack iOS 6 - 136 days - compared to the 98 days that it took to unlock the iPhone 4S.That's what made this such a landmark jailbreak. It had been so long and we were all so hungry for it.As mentioned in a previous article by Forbes (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/05/evasi0n-jailbreak-installed-on-1-7-million-devices-since-monday-release/), evasi0n, which is the first untethered jailbreak for the iPhone 5 and for devices running iOS 6.x, takes advantage of five distinct bugs in the iOS 6 code.

Evasi0n was updated to version 1.1 (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/07/evasi0n-updates-version-1-1-bug-fixes-ios-6-1-1-beta-doesnt-yet-patch-jailbreak-holes/)*yesterday, fixing a bug that caused the weather app to crash. The jailbreak is available for OS X, Windows, and Linux on the*evasi0n website (http://evasi0n.com/).

Article Link: iOS 6.x Jailbreak Evasi0n Hits Seven Million Installs in Four Days (http://www.macrumors.com/2013/02/08/ios-6-x-jailbreak-evasi0n-hits-seven-million-installs-in-four-days/)



r.j.s
Feb 8, 2013, 02:19 PM
This jailbreak thingy seems kinda popular. Who knew??

kjs862
Feb 8, 2013, 02:30 PM
I bet a good portion of that thanks to MacRumors.

charlieegan3
Feb 8, 2013, 02:33 PM
I bet a good portion of that thanks to MacRumors.

True - this is an insane amount of traffic.

Bubba Satori
Feb 8, 2013, 02:34 PM
Steve wouldn't like this if he were alive.

iomar
Feb 8, 2013, 02:36 PM
In the long run Jailbreak is always good for Apple, even if they don't like it.

SirYossi
Feb 8, 2013, 02:46 PM
This jailbreak thingy seems kinda popular. Who knew??

Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

bushido
Feb 8, 2013, 02:46 PM
apple take note. time t heat things up on the software front ;)


Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

if u say so mr fantastic

AppleMactablet
Feb 8, 2013, 02:47 PM
Question-I was looking through the Cydia Store and without hitting any ads etc-Dirty xxx ad came up-Has anyone else had this issue:confused:

madsci954
Feb 8, 2013, 02:49 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

So what you're saying is you don't want the next generation tinkering with their phones, learning about apps and software, thus creating new and innovative designers, and driving technology to the next level? :rolleyes:

samcraig
Feb 8, 2013, 02:56 PM
1.7 was impressive. 7 million sends a good message.

SILen(e
Feb 8, 2013, 02:58 PM
This jailbreak thingy seems kinda popular. Who knew??

Actually it's not very popular if you know how many devices running iOS6 are out there.

A few weeks ago, Apple reported nearly 300 million devices running iOS6 (and 500 million existing iOS devices).

People have been waiting for an untethered iOS 6 jailbreak for months, so it's very likely they updated as soon as possible.

7 million jailbroken devices out of 300 million is only 2.5%.

That's not a signal that people want features you only get by jailbreaking, it's a signal that the majority (hell, almost everybody!) doesn't care for jailbreaks.

philr5150
Feb 8, 2013, 03:00 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

You, Sir, have no idea what you're talking about. There are plenty of reasons for Jailbreaking that have nothing to do with pirating software.

Take off the blinkers and get out into the real world you speak of.

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Actually it's not very popular if you know how many devices running iOS6 are out there.

A few weeks ago, Apple reported nearly 300 million devices running iOS6 (and 500 million existing iOS devices).

People have been waiting for an untethered iOS 6 jailbreak for months, so it's very likely they updated as soon as possible.

7 million jailbroken devices out of 300 million is only 2.5%.

In FOUR days. FOUR. 7,000,000 installs. That's popular by ANY standard.

Xenomorph
Feb 8, 2013, 03:09 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

Check this out:
http://i.imgur.com/X5xQUkS.png

All I do in Cydia on my jailbroken device is buy apps, and I've been doing it for years.

Jailbreaking allows me to spend more money, not pirate.

Cydia generates a ton of revenue. People that gladly PAY for exclusive tweaks and new features for their device.



Forbes points out that even one of the more popular jailbreaks of 2011, Jailbreakme3 from Comex (http://www.jailbreakme.com), only drew 1.4 million downloads during its first nine days online. Freeman attributes this to the amount of time that it took to crack iOS 6 - 136 days - compared to the 98 days that it took to unlock the iPhone 4S.

There is no software unlock for the 4S. Why is this story mixing up "unlock" and "jailbreak"? They are not the same thing.

Tsikura
Feb 8, 2013, 03:13 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

I don't pirate on my ipad and I jailbroke. Not everyone pirates you know. Especially when it's so easy to get free games and stuff. Many of my games I got through places like slickdeals which posts freebies all the time. Facebook also gives away free games. I got angry birds, where's my water, and a few other games that way for free.

Get your head out of your ass and stop being close minded.

NorEaster
Feb 8, 2013, 03:14 PM
7 million jailbroken devices out of 300 million is only 2.5%.

That's not a signal that people want features you only get by jailbreaking, it's a signal that the majority (hell, almost everybody!) doesn't care for jailbreaks.

This is an inaccurate statement. The 293 million that don't jailbreak actually may want the features that you can get from jailbreaking...these folks just don't know about them. How many "common" iPhone users actually know the features and customizations possible due to jailbreaking?

SILen(e
Feb 8, 2013, 03:15 PM
In FOUR days. FOUR. 7,000,000 installs. That's popular by ANY standard.

There is nothing like a limited supply with a jailbreak.
As long as the download server manages the load, everybody who wants to get the software can get it 10 minutes after release.

People have been waiting for this jailbreak for months, so there's a high chance that they will have jailbroken their devices the night the jailbreak was released.
As the news that this jailbreak exists has been reported everywhere on the web, almost anyone interested in jailbreaking his device will know about it by now.
And they will have jailbroken their device the same day they learned about the JB.

So the 7 million jailbroken devices will most likely be owned the majority of people interested in jailbreaking their iOS 6 device, i doubt that there are still 50 million people out there who don't know about this JB yet or who did not apply it due to X...

So with 7-10 million people interested in Jailbreaking their iPhones, that may be a quite high number - but only if you ignore the 290 million other iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch out there that are NOT jailbroken by now and which most likely won't ever be jailbroken.

The majority of people owning iOS devices, 95+ percent, don't care for a jailbreak.

@NorEaster
The motivations of non-users are often difficult to evaluate, so the only real numbers we have about jailbroken devices are the ones from this article - and they are not that impressive if viewed in context.

Tsikura
Feb 8, 2013, 03:17 PM
More like the majority of owners don't even know what a jailbreak is or even exists.

FrankieTDouglas
Feb 8, 2013, 03:19 PM
The majority of people owning iOS devices, 95+ percent, don't care for a jailbreak.

If they enjoy their current iPhone, then they do care for a jailbreak. This is what has helped pushed iOS forward. The app store? Thank the jailbreakers.

NorEaster
Feb 8, 2013, 03:43 PM
@NorEaster
The motivations of non-users are often difficult to evaluate, so the only real numbers we have about jailbroken devices are the ones from this article - and they are not that impressive if viewed in context.

I'm not debating the significance (or impressiveness) of the 7M that have applied the jailbreak. I think you are claiming that iPhone users don't want the features jailbreaking enables (such as enhanced customization of the Notification Center) and proof of that is the relatively low percentage (2.5%) of all iOS device owners that have downloaded the jailbreak. To me, that low percentage only means a small population of iOS device owners jailbreak. There's no correlation to say that the other 97.5% don't want features possible with a jb.

Here's an example: Prior to iOS 3 (I think it was iOS 3), it wasn't possible to copy/paste data on an iPhone. Only jailbreakers could get that feature. Presumably, the percentage of folks back then who had jailbroken their devices was also relatively low. Does this mean those without jailbroken devices didn't want copy/paste? I'm pretty sure (but unable to cite stats or references) that copy/paste was a widely desired feature. I hope you see my point now.

epmatsw
Feb 8, 2013, 03:49 PM
So the 7 million jailbroken devices will most likely be owned the majority of people interested in jailbreaking their iOS 6 device, i doubt that there are still 50 million people out there who don't know about this JB yet or who did not apply it due to X...

You think that there's only 50 million people who aren't aware of the jailbreak? I'd be much more surprised if there's 50 million people who own iOS devices who ARE aware of the jailbreak. Non-technical users (the vast, vast majority of iOS users) don't read tech news and don't jailbreak. For example, in my immediate family, there are 7 iOS devices and only one person (myself) is even aware of jailbreaking.

r.j.s
Feb 8, 2013, 03:51 PM
You think that there's only 50 million people who aren't aware of the jailbreak? I'd be much more surprised if there's 50 million people who own iOS devices who ARE aware of the jailbreak. Non-technical users (the vast, vast majority of iOS users) don't read tech news and don't jailbreak. For example, in my immediate family, there are 7 iOS devices and only one person (myself) is even aware of jailbreaking.

I'm not too sure on that. Several of my coworkers and my mom are aware of jailbreaking, and what it can offer, but they either don't know how to do it or are afraid of the potential consequences (e.g. safe mode/bricking, etc.)

KoSoVaR
Feb 8, 2013, 03:56 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

Where do you think the AppStore came from...? Apple came up with the concept, right?

SILen(e
Feb 8, 2013, 03:57 PM
Stating that people want something like a jailbreak, but simply have no idea that something like that exists, is just a rewording of the old "People who don't do XY are just to lazy/stupid/poor for XY - if they were less lazy/less stupid/less poor they would do XY" that has been used in a thousand contexts, often also to call users of Apple products "iSheep", if this argument is used by a militant Android fan.

Different peoke have different needs and it seems that a lot don't need/want a jailbreak, due to no interest in jailbreak-stuff or the problems that can get caused by a jailbreak (crashing weather app) and many other reasons.

BiigBiscuit
Feb 8, 2013, 03:59 PM
Question-I was looking through the Cydia Store and without hitting any ads etc-Dirty xxx ad came up-Has anyone else had this issue:confused:

Yeah, i've gotten those but it happened when I was waiting for the descriptions of certain tweaks to load. Must have been the source that they were hosted on.

tbrinkma
Feb 8, 2013, 04:08 PM
This is an inaccurate statement. The 293 million that don't jailbreak actually may want the features that you can get from jailbreaking...these folks just don't know about them. How many "common" iPhone users actually know the features and customizations possible due to jailbreaking?

I've seen claims in past jailbreak discussions on this forum that:

*everybody*
the vast majority
most

iOS device users jailbreak.

Obviously, that's not the case, but equally obviously more people *know* about jailbreaking than actually go through with it. So far, the latter population is about 2.5% of IOS 6 users, assuming that no jailbreak attempts required a second try, and that every successful jailbreak has stayed jailbroken.

Admittedly, that's about double what I expected to see. :eek:

trunten
Feb 8, 2013, 04:11 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

Yeah teenagers are stupid. I hear they don't know the difference between waist and waste. Haha. Imagine that.

pacohaas
Feb 8, 2013, 04:39 PM
I bet a good portion of that thanks to MacRumors.
Maybe if MacRumors would stop posting updates, the Cydia servers would have a chance to cool down a bit...

kockgunner
Feb 8, 2013, 04:47 PM
I jailbroke after a break since around 2009. I still don't find much useful besides Activator. But i hope this is a reminder to Apple to step up their software game.

Radio
Feb 8, 2013, 05:35 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

How dare you

You know nothing

Sankersizzle
Feb 8, 2013, 05:56 PM
I love the idea of jailbreaking, the lock screen tweaks and all that jazz, but nothing I try ever works. :o

Candlelight
Feb 8, 2013, 06:01 PM
I wonder when Apple will realise people want more control over their iProducts and loosen up.

(I know the answer, just throwing the question out there :))

Sankersizzle
Feb 8, 2013, 06:02 PM
This would have never had happened if Steve was still around.

koban4max
Feb 8, 2013, 07:28 PM
Steve wouldn't like this if he were alive.

you must be Steve Job's snitch.:)

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This would have never had happened if Steve was still around.

Well...he isn't here anymore.:)

cosmolv
Feb 8, 2013, 08:04 PM
I think main reason for such big jailbreak hit is Auxo (i just think...)

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Question-I was looking through the Cydia Store and without hitting any ads etc-Dirty xxx ad came up-Has anyone else had this issue:confused:

Same here

APlotdevice
Feb 8, 2013, 08:09 PM
This is an inaccurate statement. The 293 million that don't jailbreak actually may want the features that you can get from jailbreaking...these folks just don't know about them. How many "common" iPhone users actually know the features and customizations possible due to jailbreaking?

It's also only been four days. iOS 6 took four months to reach its current installation number. So chances are that percentage is still going to go up a bit.

Rocketman
Feb 8, 2013, 08:23 PM
I think the reason for the uptake is the attention it got on MacRumors, a pervasive website, and the post I made asking why jailbreak, that elicited responses that even a n00b could understand.

Mass market jailbreak.

JJ

TheMacBookPro
Feb 8, 2013, 10:29 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

So what have you done that benefits millions of people?

It evidently wasn't learning the difference between waste and waist. Incidentally, I'd bet that's something most of the 'teens [with] no life' that you refer to would be able to differentiate between.

ConCat
Feb 8, 2013, 10:32 PM
If they enjoy their current iPhone, then they do care for a jailbreak. This is what has helped pushed iOS forward. The app store? Thank the jailbreakers.

See, I never bought this. The app store came out a year after the iPhone did. I can't believe that they weren't already planning it by then. It doesn't seem like anywhere near enough time to build and test the entire infrastructure needed to support something like the App Store.

acorntoy
Feb 8, 2013, 11:53 PM
This is an inaccurate statement. The 293 million that don't jailbreak actually may want the features that you can get from jailbreaking...these folks just don't know about them. How many "common" iPhone users actually know the features and customizations possible due to jailbreaking?

This.

Or how many people have been told its "bad" and it'll "brick your device" if you do it so they stay away :rolleyes:

Almost everybody (except for one!) I have met that sees my phone always goes through these phases:

1. Wow thats amazing
2. That looks really useful, how can I do this?
3. Jailbreaking?! You just ruined your device!!!

They always tend to stop insisting I have destroyed my iPhone 5 when I tell them that I have been jailbreaking since the 3G, then they realize its not bad and start asking me how they too can jailbreak.

This is from the past 10-15 people i've met that have used/seen me use my phone. Its not that people don't want the features, its just that Apple and extreme Apple fans have done a good job making jailbreaking seem like it'll blow up your device.

phoenixsan
Feb 9, 2013, 12:22 AM
a powerful statement about how Apple not always produce the best solution, even for their hardware and software offers.

And also seems to me, that Android users that brag about how powerful and customizable Android is, have to do a worth look in Apple hardware, much better in quality, with a price, obviously....


:):apple:

Garsun
Feb 9, 2013, 02:29 AM
You, Sir, have no idea what you're talking about. There are plenty of reasons for Jailbreaking that have nothing to do with pirating software.


What I would really like to see are some stats of how many downloads of one of the more popular pirated apps there have been in the last four days.

The comparison between jailbreaking and pirating would be fascinating.

mouser45
Feb 9, 2013, 05:38 AM
Freedom is addictive.

Mr Fusion
Feb 9, 2013, 06:36 AM
Steve wouldn't like this if he were alive.
Hooray for "web apps!!!" :p

nick_elt
Feb 9, 2013, 11:38 AM
This would have never had happened if Steve was still around.

yes, there was never any jailbreaks when he was around now, were there???? thanks for your contribution.

nick_elt
Feb 9, 2013, 11:41 AM
See, I never bought this. The app store came out a year after the iPhone did. I can't believe that they weren't already planning it by then. It doesn't seem like anywhere near enough time to build and test the entire infrastructure needed to support something like the App Store.

how long did it take for cydia (or whatever form it was then) to be created? and think how much money apple has. You sir are absolutely wrong.

gotluck
Feb 9, 2013, 11:55 AM
jailbreaking is a very important piece in keeping iOS better than current android offerings. :cool:

ConCat
Feb 9, 2013, 12:26 PM
how long did it take for cydia (or whatever form it was then) to be created? and think how much money apple has. You sir are absolutely wrong.

What does money have to do with how long it takes to build and test infrastructure? I don't think you fully grasp the complexity behind the App Store. It isn't something that can just be thrown together in a year.

likemyorbs
Feb 9, 2013, 01:51 PM
So what you're saying is you don't want the next generation tinkering with their phones, learning about apps and software, thus creating new and innovative designers, and driving technology to the next level? :rolleyes:

Correct. Because "back in his day" no one tinkered with anything and the world was a better place. I've noticed a lot of older people lately have been bashing the younger generation calling them "stupid" and "lazy". In reality today's generation is smarter and more mature and capable than any generation before them.

Sankersizzle
Feb 9, 2013, 02:28 PM
yes, there was never any jailbreaks when he was around now, were there???? thanks for your contribution.

http://i.imgur.com/sMQPmrU.gif
Worst sense of humour ever. I was being flippant.

mrsir2009
Feb 9, 2013, 02:29 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

Although you have to give teens these days some credit - Most of them know how to spell "waste".

btallada9870
Feb 9, 2013, 03:00 PM
What does money have to do with how long it takes to build and test infrastructure? I don't think you fully grasp the complexity behind the App Store. It isn't something that can just be thrown together in a year.

Money means they have an incredible amount of resources to pull it off. Also, isn't the iTunes Store the basis of the App Store infrastructure, which was very well established at that point? If I remember, it was probably less than 6 months after the iPhone came out that not only was jailbreaking available to tweak text bubble colors, etc. but the first apps from amateur developers made their way to the iPhone. I'm sure apple had tested apps before the iPhone was released, but it seemed pretty clear they wanted everything to run through safari and the jailbreak community pressured them to create the App Store.

Anyway, I first jail broke my phone as soon as you could, but after all that hard work was ruined through a software update I never bothered again until envasi0n. Of course I love it. I got intelliscreenx configured to work with biteSMS - how the hell have I been without quick reply for 6 years now I don't know. I wish intelliscreen would add a page for messages, like they have for mail, though. Swipeselection is another one that makes typing this on my iPhone extremely easy. I think auxo is a good addition but with notification center toggles its killer feature is how to exit apps from the app switcher. But now that I've got my phone to work optimally, I'm having fun with springtomize, custom clock, unfold, and barrel. If you can follow a YouTube video, you can jailbreak and I see no reason why not. I love my iPhone and am so invested in apple that its not easy for me to just up and move to android, but apple needs to wake the hell up because iOS is stale, and I've been trying to lie to myself about it, but its obvious, especially to the 'common' people. More and more often I hear people complaining about the iPhone - the people who don't understand jail breaking, who would absolutely love for these features to be built in.

dinggus
Feb 9, 2013, 04:11 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

Coming from a guy who has this in his profile
Interests
Tinkering with Macs, ipod iphone app beta tester, soccer, photography

Maybe you should get out more and stop tinkering with technology?

Jailbreaking doesn't promote pirating. Add a "pirating" source, and Cydia will tell give you a warning.

Actually it's not very popular if you know how many devices running iOS6 are out there.

A few weeks ago, Apple reported nearly 300 million devices running iOS6 (and 500 million existing iOS devices).

People have been waiting for an untethered iOS 6 jailbreak for months, so it's very likely they updated as soon as possible.

7 million jailbroken devices out of 300 million is only 2.5%.

That's not a signal that people want features you only get by jailbreaking, it's a signal that the majority (hell, almost everybody!) doesn't care for jailbreaks.

If you don't think 7 million is alot, then I don't know what you actually consider alot. Majority of the people that I know don't know what jailbreaking is, and now I have all of them asking me to jailbreak their iOS devices for them.

elgrecomac
Feb 9, 2013, 05:05 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

1. The Cydia store does not encourage nor promote pirating. Period.
2. I have been JBing my iphone for several years now. I do not know anyone who was stealing apps.
3. For those of us lucky enough to still have unlimited data plans, it allow us to use MyWi to use the phone as a hot spot for our wifi-only tablets. (BTW, this is free on an android phone).
4. JBing does allow one to customize the phone with cool utilities and themes many of which are free while others cost just a couple of bucks or so.
5. And it allows those with the proper skills to get into the guts of iOS and really tweak it if they so desire.

And all of this would go away if Apple did not have a closed ecosystem.

SirYossi, don't hate the players, hate the game. :cool:

joeblough
Feb 9, 2013, 07:33 PM
just a data point - i delayed buying an iPhone 5 until this JB came out. on tuesday i was down at the apple store with my CC in hand.

why? lockinfo and scrobbl. can't live without those two utilities (although Carat told me that scrobbl was responsible for 30 minutes of battery consumption on my 4S.) lockinfo 5 is really great!

no pirated apps. just want to do fun stuff with the phone.

nick_elt
Feb 9, 2013, 07:41 PM
What does money have to do with how long it takes to build and test infrastructure? I don't think you fully grasp the complexity behind the App Store. It isn't something that can just be thrown together in a year.

So if you had more money and large teams of engineers you Couldnt get the job done faster? Plus from the time geohot first jailbreaked the iphone how long did it take for them to get their version of the app store up and running? on a shoestring budget. Was a fraction of the time you are saying. Im not saying apple didnt plan it before but you cant say is impossibly over complicated to be made in less than a year. saurik has proven my point. Remember apple was pushing hard for web apps at first. How did they work out?

Fatalbert
Feb 9, 2013, 11:21 PM
Question: How do they know how many have installed it? Does it send other data to a server when you jailbreak? :eek:

Westside guy
Feb 10, 2013, 12:55 AM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

Didn't we already beat this meme to death in the discussion thread from the other story post about evasi0n just a couple days ago? Were you not paying attention then? Or were you too "waisted" to care? ;)

Jibbajabba
Feb 10, 2013, 03:52 AM
Question: How do they know how many have installed it? Does it send other data to a server when you jailbreak? :eek:

jailbreaking installs Cydia automatically so all you have to track are the amount of downloads. Doesn't mean those are unique ones though, unless they track UIDs.

And here is a secret - you go online, SOMEONE sees and knows what you are doing.

Shasterball
Feb 10, 2013, 06:32 AM
As iOS becomes more and more stale, people will want more and more to enhance it...

Wake up Apple...

AnonMac50
Feb 10, 2013, 06:38 AM
There is nothing like a limited supply with a jailbreak.
As long as the download server manages the load, everybody who wants to get the software can get it 10 minutes after release.

People have been waiting for this jailbreak for months, so there's a high chance that they will have jailbroken their devices the night the jailbreak was released.
As the news that this jailbreak exists has been reported everywhere on the web, almost anyone interested in jailbreaking his device will know about it by now.
And they will have jailbroken their device the same day they learned about the JB.

So the 7 million jailbroken devices will most likely be owned the majority of people interested in jailbreaking their iOS 6 device, i doubt that there are still 50 million people out there who don't know about this JB yet or who did not apply it due to X...

So with 7-10 million people interested in Jailbreaking their iPhones, that may be a quite high number - but only if you ignore the 290 million other iPhones, iPads and iPod Touch out there that are NOT jailbroken by now and which most likely won't ever be jailbroken.

The majority of people owning iOS devices, 95+ percent, don't care for a jailbreak.

@NorEaster
The motivations of non-users are often difficult to evaluate, so the only real numbers we have about jailbroken devices are the ones from this article - and they are not that impressive if viewed in context.

Then why does thel install of any new OS or software go gradually?

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Stating that people want something like a jailbreak, but simply have no idea that something like that exists, is just a rewording of the old "People who don't do XY are just to lazy/stupid/poor for XY - if they were less lazy/less stupid/less poor they would do XY" that has been used in a thousand contexts, often also to call users of Apple products "iSheep", if this argument is used by a militant Android fan.

Different peoke have different needs and it seems that a lot don't need/want a jailbreak, due to no interest in jailbreak-stuff or the problems that can get caused by a jailbreak (crashing weather app) and many other reasons.

What's your point? They don't know what a jailbreak is...

Fatalbert
Feb 10, 2013, 10:07 AM
jailbreaking installs Cydia automatically so all you have to track are the amount of downloads. Doesn't mean those are unique ones though, unless they track UIDs.

And here is a secret - you go online, SOMEONE sees and knows what you are doing.

Yeah, every site gets your IP address, but I wonder if Cydia is sending more personal data. I'm not very concerned about it.

ppdix
Feb 10, 2013, 10:46 AM
7 Million people can't be wrong. Apple needs to step up and really compete with Android.
I waited months with a limited iPhone 5. Now I am really happy with it. I can customize it all.
It is what is supposed to be without all the boring limitations...:rolleyes:
My main tweaks:
BiteSMS. I love the quick compose and reply and specially the 3-second delay to send... Sometimes u just regret what u wrote :D and the contact photos on the messages. The way it should've always been.
Auxo... WOW! Like a Mac OS X Dock for the iPhone. Apple Should buy this technology!
Intelliscreen X. Weather, Mail, Facebook and more on your lock screen
Automator. Any button or switch can be assigned an action.
Barrel. Pac-Man!
Unfold. Awesome and Fun lock screen slider with custom text.
Cyntact. Photos on Contacts and Favorites.
Full USB access to your whole iPhone disk.

I hope iOS 7 comes with some surprises. Nevertheless I will keep jailbreaking all the way to iOS X.
;)

Sweetcheetah
Feb 10, 2013, 11:48 AM
Well, I downloaded for one reason and one reason alone. To be able to spend just $20 one time to register this app called MyWi. To be able to use my iphone to act as a hotspot for me and my business partner's laptop when we're out and about working anywhere where I have good 3G signal and not relying on local Wifi at cafes or anywhere to go to, to do work on our laptops. And not having to spend the extra $10 a month for the Sprint Hot Spot. So, I'm saving a ton. I may dabble a little on few cool jail break apps that aren't available in the apple app store.

thefourthpope
Feb 10, 2013, 01:23 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

Totally. So stop posting online and go outside.

nick_elt
Feb 10, 2013, 02:21 PM
Question: How do they know how many have installed it? Does it send other data to a server when you jailbreak? :eek:

Cydia knows how many installs it has

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As iOS becomes more and more stale, people will want more and more to enhance it...

Wake up Apple...

And more and more people will look elsewhere more importantly

lucaseve
Feb 10, 2013, 03:22 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

People should indeed try to get out and get a life instead to talk and write about something they don't know and/or don't understand. ;-)

Fatalbert
Feb 10, 2013, 04:42 PM
So what you're saying is you don't want the next generation tinkering with their phones, learning about apps and software, thus creating new and innovative designers, and driving technology to the next level? :rolleyes:

I don't think jailbreaking is what you described it as. Downloading N64_4_iphone and the 5-icon dock is not exactly "learning about apps and software" or training you to be innovative.

patsfan83
Feb 10, 2013, 08:08 PM
Just re-jailbroke my iPhone 5 in order to have MyWi- best $25 I've spent.

25 mbps unlimited tethering over LTE, can't beat it. No need to sign up for ATT's $15 iPad plan, and works great with my Macbook Air.

Hotels, Amtrak, Boltbus, and coffee shop WiFi's are so slow, now you have your own.

theanimaster
Feb 10, 2013, 09:57 PM
I jailbroke the other day and I believe it's now at 1.2, not 1.1. A trivial thing though.

I am reporting battery life stable, and no performance issues even with Winterboard. Any one else?

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Just re-jailbroke my iPhone 5 in order to have MyWi- best $25 I've spent.

25 mbps unlimited tethering over LTE, can't beat it. No need to sign up for ATT's $15 iPad plan, and works great with my Macbook Air.

Hotels, Amtrak, Boltbus, and coffee shop WiFi's are so slow, now you have your own.


I'm starting to feel guilty about recommending this app. To be honest, I've had problems with it in the past and just when I thought they'd fix the problems in the next iteration.... I'm left disappointed.

Fortunately it "ONLY" cost me 5 bucks to upgrade from MyWi5 to MyWi6. But with MyWi installed, I noticed my wifi performance took a BIG hit. Thinking it was MyWi (I was correct, as this had been the source of problems in the past) I de-installed it. Wifi performance went back to normal.

I've emailed Intelliborn... hopefully they'll get back to me about it. For one -- I don't see why they don't have their own Notification Centre toggles. I really do hope they get their game together.

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People should indeed try to get out and get a life instead to talk and write about something they don't know and/or don't understand. ;-)


Oh Geezus... yeah. Some people need to get their head out of the sand. It'd be funny if the guy realises that Jailbreaking is NOT for pirating stuff. I pay plenty for JB apps and tweaks... apps and tweaks that are NOT available for purchase on the Apple AppStore.

Jibbajabba
Feb 11, 2013, 12:58 AM
Cydia knows how many installs it has

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And more and more people will look elsewhere more importantly

How many installs. Doesn't mean they are unique. The figure would include people re-jailbreaking for one reason or another :)

nick_elt
Feb 11, 2013, 04:02 AM
How many installs. Doesn't mean they are unique. The figure would include people re-jailbreaking for one reason or another :)

Im not 100% sure but you may have a point and be right. But when I tried it on my ipad it went without a hitch so I wouldnt expect too many ppl needing a re-install. Either way Cydia was slammed like never before upon release.

jowie
Feb 11, 2013, 04:55 AM
I've always been tempted with jailbreaking my phone, but there's only one or two things that I think I'd really buy into (such as Auxo). The main barrier for me is that if I do, I won't be able to get any software updates from Apple.

Am I wrong? Discuss. :D

klausmmia
Feb 11, 2013, 05:44 AM
This is called "breaking news" :p

unplugme71
Feb 11, 2013, 06:24 AM
I find no use for jailbreak anymore. I'm content with iOS 6 and unless someone can list an app that a user would use on a day to day basis that's game changing from what Apple offers or doesn't offer, I can't see myself jailbreaking.

I always find jailbreaks to cause crashes and be slow. I had my 3G 3GS and i5 all jailbroken. Next day quickly removed.

And I'm sure people have heard of jailbreaking (at least those aged 30 and under) but probably think it does something else like allow your phone to be unlocked from the carrier.

maxosx
Feb 11, 2013, 06:29 AM
Jailbreak satisfies the desire of those who secretly want an Android but can't afford one.

I prefer my iPhone 5 stock.

My Nexus 4 is the one that's fun to customize.

darkpaw
Feb 11, 2013, 07:09 AM
I installed it on my iPod touch 4th gen. I don't see what the fuss is all about. The Cydia store is horrific to navigate, and is plastered with so many adverts it makes it just an ugly experience. Not to mention the, "scroll down to see screenshots" text right above the link for screenshots. It's just ugly. I haven't been tempted to install any of the stuff on there because I don't know what most of it does because the descriptions are written in severely broken English.

It's not my cup of tea, so I restored to stock iOS 6.1.

Just my opinion.

h4ck
Feb 11, 2013, 08:32 AM
actually you're wrong, and by the sound of it, you don't jailbreak, so i'd hardly say you're at all qualified to speak about what jailbreaking is.

so basically, if you don't know what you're talking about, shut up.

Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

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...you're kidding, right?

so... i can't afford an android device (most carriers give them away)

but i could afford my 64 gig iphone 5.....factory unlocked.

k. sound logic there.

Jailbreak satisfies the desire of those who secretly want an Android but can't afford one.

I prefer my iPhone 5 stock.

My Nexus 4 is the one that's fun to customize.

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it's not that difficult to query your webserver to see how many unique devices are hitting a website to show downloads.

nor is it difficult to do the same for cydia, to see how many unique devices are connecting to cydia (which is just a web front end in case you didn't know)

simple.

Question: How do they know how many have installed it? Does it send other data to a server when you jailbreak? :eek:

blucable
Feb 11, 2013, 09:33 AM
I jailbroke mine just for a new interface, but still paying for my apps...

Mr-Kerrse
Feb 11, 2013, 09:45 AM
I never bother jailbreaking any of my iphones or ipads, got better things to do with my life than tweak irrelevant stuff on my phone/pad.

I do however jailbreak my ATV2's as that has a good purpose :cool:

HishamAkhtar
Feb 11, 2013, 10:12 AM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

*waste.

Snowy_River
Feb 11, 2013, 11:13 AM
...The majority of people owning iOS devices, 95+ percent, don't care for a jailbreak...

So, I'm guessing that you've been a Windows user all these years, and feel that Mac hasn't ever had much to offer? After all, 90%+ of computer users don't care about Macs...

I installed it on my iPod touch 4th gen. I don't see what the fuss is all about. The Cydia store is horrific to navigate, and is plastered with so many adverts it makes it just an ugly experience. Not to mention the, "scroll down to see screenshots" text right above the link for screenshots. It's just ugly. I haven't been tempted to install any of the stuff on there because I don't know what most of it does because the descriptions are written in severely broken English.

It's not my cup of tea, so I restored to stock iOS 6.1.

Just my opinion.

Overall, I agree with you, whole heartedly. I would guess that I'd install more from Cydia if the ability to find decent stuff was a bit more like the Aople App Store (or any number of other examples of better laid out interfaces). As it is, I only go to Cydia when there is something specific that I'm looking for that I've already found out about elsewhere. Personally, I jailbrake for one primary reason: iFile. With iFile I can pull documents from one app to another much more easily than the builtin iOS functionality allows for. Further, I can use my camera connector kit to allow me to copy files into SD cards easily, and by keeping a USB SD card reader with me, it functions as a portable flash drive when I need to hand a file to someone in person. In short, JBing closes one significant gap in the functionality of my iPad. It is for this reason that I didn't upgrade to iOS 6 until there was a JB available for it.

So, while JBing isn't for everyone, it does serve a purpose for some of us, and a very important purpose, at that...

johncrab
Feb 11, 2013, 11:51 AM
Fine, hack into your iPhone and have fun now but don't whine when in a couple of months it's useless and cannot be upgraded and can't even be sold on Ebay.

I think I'll go buy a new Jaguar and hack into the electronics and re-gear the transmission so I can whine about having voided the warranty. :p

WiiDSmoker
Feb 11, 2013, 12:18 PM
Fine, hack into your iPhone and have fun now but don't whine when in a couple of months it's useless and cannot be upgraded and can't even be sold on Ebay.

I think I'll go buy a new Jaguar and hack into the electronics and re-gear the transmission so I can whine about having voided the warranty. :p

Are you retarded? I ask because you have no idea what you're talking about.

rydenfan
Feb 11, 2013, 12:22 PM
I am interested in jailbreaking but truly understand the benefit of it. Could someone please explain to me the 5 or 10 things I could do that I cannot do today.

Smartass
Feb 11, 2013, 01:03 PM
this is a huge number and all apple fanboys blabering about "this is not a big number" should really just shut up and embrace the reality that people, if they get a chance and they know about it, will jailbreak their device for all the great features that it brings.

ipedro
Feb 11, 2013, 05:34 PM
Seven Million people have just potentially given access to hackers of the devices where they keep all their personal information.

I'm not saying that hackers have access to these devices but purposefully breaking the security features of your iPhone and allowing a hacker to install root level controlling software on your phone is just irresponsible.

lilcosco08
Feb 11, 2013, 08:14 PM
Seems a waist of my time - more of a gimmicky things teenagers do - pointless - teens these days have no life get outdoors do something - life is only boring if you let it be. Only promotes pirating by allowing pirated apps on your phone or device.

Too bad apptrackr shut down, so your argument is invalid

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Seven Million people have just potentially given access to hackers of the devices where they keep all their personal information.

I'm not saying that hackers have access to these devices but purposefully breaking the security features of your iPhone and allowing a hacker to install root level controlling software on your phone is just irresponsible.

Not really, just don't install SSH, and if you do, change the root password

APlotdevice
Feb 11, 2013, 11:44 PM
Jailbreak satisfies the desire of those who secretly want an Android but can't afford one.

I prefer my iPhone 5 stock.

My Nexus 4 is the one that's fun to customize.

How could someone afford an iPhone and not an Android phone? Many Android phones are given away for free (with contract)!

No, jailbreaking is for people who want the services and vast library of apps that iOS provides without the restrictions that Apple puts on it.

NewAnger
Feb 12, 2013, 01:13 AM
More like the majority of owners don't even know what a jailbreak is or even exists.
That's true. I also remember just about two years ago how about 25% of all people who owned an iPhone had never connected it to iTunes to sync, let alone, backup.

There are still tons of people out there who buy a phone and have no idea that there are these options out there. It's the same with Android users as it is with iPhone users.

People buy a phone and move on with their lives, families and relationships. Ask them what a JB is and they won't have a clue.

VoR
Feb 12, 2013, 07:34 AM
Different peoke have different needs and it seems that a lot don't need/want a jailbreak, due to no interest in jailbreak-stuff or the problems that can get caused by a jailbreak (crashing weather app) and many other reasons.

But like you said, there's a whole range of different people - It's pretty hard to put numbers to anything.

My mum has had two iPhones, she doesn't have an apple ID and is aware of 'apps' but doesn't know how to get them and hasn't bothered looking - Is she a 1/1000000 exception or 1/10? She also asked for a iPod last christmas "so I can listen to music" :) She loves the phone and will buy another one when it breaks/the battery stops lasting.
My dad (separated, in another country) is a pretty much identical example, but he has an android phone and wouldn't want a portable music player.

Believe it or not, they're relatively computer literate. They have PCs that they use for emails, web browsing, shopping and my dad runs his business through his. I've always thought of them as relatively average users.

tbrinkma
Feb 12, 2013, 11:18 AM
So if you had more money and large teams of engineers you Couldnt get the job done faster? Plus from the time geohot first jailbreaked the iphone how long did it take for them to get their version of the app store up and running? on a shoestring budget. Was a fraction of the time you are saying. Im not saying apple didnt plan it before but you cant say is impossibly over complicated to be made in less than a year. saurik has proven my point. Remember apple was pushing hard for web apps at first. How did they work out?

Let me ask you this. Did the Cydia store have to prep SDKs for public consumption, get developer help documentation ready, get development tools tested to the point where they were fit for third party developers, etc?

That's the time-consuming part of what Apple had to do. The fact that it went as quickly as it did supports the idea that they were planning to do it at *least* since the initial iPhone release.

THX1139
Feb 12, 2013, 11:24 AM
For many people who don't jailbreak, it's not because they aren't aware it exists. It's just that they are not stupid enough to risk bricking their phone.

The thing about a jailbreak is that if you ever need service on your phone, Apple won't touch it unless they are allowed to do a DFU restore. Technicians are trained to notice the difference because quite often the jailbreak will allow a change in the iOS interface. A change in the interface is a dead give away that the phone has been tampered with unauthorized software. So, if your speaker suddenly stops working, or home button gets stuck, or any other hardware issue, be prepared to have Apple tell you that your phone is out of warranty due to tampering and they can't fix it. They may offer to restore to return it to factory settings, thus putting it back into warranty, but in some cases that might brick your phone.

Smearbrick
Feb 12, 2013, 02:11 PM
You think that there's only 50 million people who aren't aware of the jailbreak? I'd be much more surprised if there's 50 million people who own iOS devices who ARE aware of the jailbreak. Non-technical users (the vast, vast majority of iOS users) don't read tech news and don't jailbreak. For example, in my immediate family, there are 7 iOS devices and only one person (myself) is even aware of jailbreaking.

I seriously believe that a large majority of iOS users don't even know they are running something called iOS. Imagine if they knew they could put cutesy little themes and crap on their device. That 7 million number would be a great deal higher!

VoR
Feb 12, 2013, 02:27 PM
For many people who don't jailbreak, it's not because they aren't aware it exists. It's just that they are not stupid enough to risk bricking their phone.

The thing about a jailbreak is that if you ever need service on your phone, Apple won't touch it unless they are allowed to do a DFU restore. Technicians are trained to notice the difference because quite often the jailbreak will allow a change in the iOS interface. A change in the interface is a dead give away that the phone has been tampered with unauthorized software. So, if your speaker suddenly stops working, or home button gets stuck, or any other hardware issue, be prepared to have Apple tell you that your phone is out of warranty due to tampering and they can't fix it. They may offer to restore to return it to factory settings, thus putting it back into warranty, but in some cases that might brick your phone.

I'm afraid I couldn't resist... :(

I assume you've actually read some feedback on this forum and just generally from the millions and millions of jailbreaks that have been done over the years?
What confuses me is that you understand that wiping the device removes all traces of the jailbreak, but seem to be under the impression that there's a chance of bricking... There isn't, iPhones are restorable...

If you're not a fan of jailbreaking, don't do it. if you dont understand it gain anything from it, don't do it - just don't spread FUD :)

I seriously believe that a large majority of iOS users don't even know they are running something called iOS. Imagine if they knew they could put cutesy little themes and crap on their device. That 7 million number would be a great deal higher!

Yep :)

nick_elt
Feb 13, 2013, 05:00 AM
Let me ask you this. Did the Cydia store have to prep SDKs for public consumption, get developer help documentation ready, get development tools tested to the point where they were fit for third party developers, etc?

That's the time-consuming part of what Apple had to do. The fact that it went as quickly as it did supports the idea that they were planning to do it at *least* since the initial iPhone release.

To be honest i dont have a huge knowledge in the area, you may be right I just thought if cydia could do it, apple could do it easily with alot more money. Seems strange that they dont have an app store for the apple tv since the app store on the ipad/iphone generates a nice income. user control issues?

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I installed it on my iPod touch 4th gen. I don't see what the fuss is all about. The Cydia store is horrific to navigate, and is plastered with so many adverts it makes it just an ugly experience. Not to mention the, "scroll down to see screenshots" text right above the link for screenshots. It's just ugly. I haven't been tempted to install any of the stuff on there because I don't know what most of it does because the descriptions are written in severely broken English.

It's not my cup of tea, so I restored to stock iOS 6.1.

Just my opinion.

Cydia isnt designed for the best ui nor is it easy for ppl that dont know much about jailbraking, but if you know some good repos and tweeks then it is very worthwile.

tbrinkma
Feb 14, 2013, 02:27 PM
To be honest i dont have a huge knowledge in the area, you may be right I just thought if cydia could do it, apple could do it easily with alot more money. Seems strange that they dont have an app store for the apple tv since the app store on the ipad/iphone generates a nice income. user control issues?

If by 'user control issues', you mean the physical control used to interact with it, that'd be my guess. The currently included remote is passable, but a bit *too* simple for anything more complex than navigation through the current interface. Definitely not suitable for arbitrary apps.

That said, I fully expect an :apple:TV app store at some point. I just have no idea *when*.

nick_elt
Feb 15, 2013, 04:42 AM
If by 'user control issues', you mean the physical control used to interact with it, that'd be my guess. The currently included remote is passable, but a bit *too* simple for anything more complex than navigation through the current interface. Definitely not suitable for arbitrary apps.

That said, I fully expect an :apple:TV app store at some point. I just have no idea *when*.

Yeh, when playing games on the tv screen you still need to look at the ipad when using controls which kinda defeats the purpuse. So i wouldnt use it for that but still there are many different information orientated apps that i would download and buy today if i could.

fteoath64
Feb 21, 2013, 10:37 AM
I am interested in jailbreaking but truly understand the benefit of it. Could someone please explain to me the 5 or 10 things I could do that I cannot do today.

With Zepher, I get one finger slide front bottom edge to get Task Switcher. Hate the double click on Home button!. Also Slide from left edge to switch apps and right edge to switch the other way. Makes the device more usable.
Apple do NOT do usability tests well. How CAN they MISS such a simple navigation gesture ?. Beyond me!.:eek:

DP812
Apr 9, 2013, 06:58 PM
I find no use for jailbreak anymore. I'm content with iOS 6 and unless someone can list an app that a user would use on a day to day basis that's game changing from what Apple offers or doesn't offer, I can't see myself jailbreaking.

I always find jailbreaks to cause crashes and be slow. I had my 3G 3GS and i5 all jailbroken. Next day quickly removed.

For the most part I agree with you. I jailbroke my iPhone 4, but then one day, it stopped syncing with my music and it seemed the only solution was DFU and update to iOS 6. My phone goes a lot faster now than it did while jailbroken, but the one thing I really want from it is TetherMe back. My phone company only permits tethering on the iPhone 5, and they won't let me upgrade for a two-year contract (current visa is only valid for one more year) unless I pay it all in advance.

Now that I've found out about evasi0n, hopefully I can get my tethering capabilities back, and flip the bird to Softbank (don't want my money for tethering, you won't get it).

ron7624
Apr 12, 2013, 03:07 AM
I'm following this because I want to tether my Laptop to my iPad. Thanks to AT&T's restrictions I cannot do that unless I jailbreak.
I am running 6.1.3
At the very beginning of this post I think I saw 6.1.3 is not jailbroken yet.
So at this point I am SOL - correct?
Any advice that will help me tether my laptop to my iPad would be greatly appreciated whether it involves jailbreaking or not. Any help?

hexonxonx
Apr 12, 2013, 08:39 AM
I'm following this because I want to tether my Laptop to my iPad. Thanks to AT&T's restrictions I cannot do that unless I jailbreak.
I am running 6.1.3
At the very beginning of this post I think I saw 6.1.3 is not jailbroken yet.
So at this point I am SOL - correct?
Any advice that will help me tether my laptop to my iPad would be greatly appreciated whether it involves jailbreaking or not. Any help?

You can't JB 6.1.3 and there likely won't be one until the next major iOS release. Even after the release, it will take several months for a JB to be released. Probably late fall, early winter. All you can do is pay for tethering like getting in a cheap $30 T-Mobile plan and then paying $15 for tethering. You can also get a mobile hotspot device at various places.

ron7624
Apr 12, 2013, 07:22 PM
I called AT&T today to ask them about the tethering plan for my iPad mini, which is a stand-alone plan and not part of my iPhone contract. Since I'm already paying 30 bucks for 3gb, for another $20 I can have tethering. I did give in and told them to add that to my plan. The upside - this is a noncommittal deal that I can cancel at any time with no penalty. The downside is the money. I have a Dell laptop that I want to be able to tether to my iPad mini. If the connection is fast enough I'll keep it. If it's not I wont.
I have a MiFi card that I use for that purpose now,but it is 3g. So that will be my trade off - if the connection is faster than the MiFi ,I'll keep it. . Btw, the MiFi is offered by Truconnect. It is very solid and costs very little to own. It works on the Sprint network which is pretty solid. I use it for power outages too. (No, I don't work for Truconnect. This is not an advert lol)
I will follow up with the speed of the connection when I get around to testing it. Probably in next few days.

ron7624
May 8, 2013, 08:31 PM
I did test it and it is much faster than 3G. Blinding speed? No.. But adequate. For 20 more dollars per month I will keep for a while.

ron7624
Jun 18, 2013, 06:11 PM
I did test it and it is much faster than 3G. Blinding speed? No.. But adequate. For 20 more dollars per month I will keep for a while.

So while talking to an AT&T rep, they suggested that I get a share plan for my 2 iPads. I share 4 gigs and am spending much less money. I don't stream unless on wifi, and so I am averaging less than 3 gigs a month between the two, and my wife and I are pretty much non stop with email and web brousing. And my mini is a wifi hotspot if I need for it to be.
I'm really happy with this new arrangement. It seems AT&T is getting easier to work with.