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SBacklin
Aug 21, 2013, 03:54 PM
Does anyone testing out iOS 7 have/use iCloud email on their device? To those who do, what options does iOS 7 give for marking email messages as junk? Also, is there any notifications with your device with iOS 7 that mail has arrived in the Junk folder?

PBF
Aug 21, 2013, 03:59 PM
Mail.app lets you move one or several emails to Junk folder.

There's no option to notify you of Junk mail.

SBacklin
Aug 21, 2013, 04:01 PM
Mail.app lets you move one or several emails to Junk folder.

There's no option to notify you of Junk mail.
Well, I'm glad Apple finally decided to give iOS users a way to mark email as SPAM so the server knows about it. I'm hoping that iOS Junk Filter isn't an independent one of the server like the Junk Filter in OSX Mail.app.

I was hoping that iOS would finally allow notifications of incoming messages in other folders other then the inbox.

TheKrs1
Aug 21, 2013, 04:20 PM
Well, I'm glad Apple finally decided to give iOS users a way to mark email as SPAM so the server knows about it. I'm hoping that iOS Junk Filter isn't an independent one of the server like the Junk Filter in OSX Mail.app.

I was hoping that iOS would finally allow notifications of incoming messages in other folders other then the inbox.

It actually can. You can subscribe to push updates from subfolders on iCloud mail.

SBacklin
Aug 21, 2013, 04:30 PM
It actually can. You can subscribe to push updates from subfolders on iCloud mail.
Really? Is this something new that comes with iOS 7?

PBF
Aug 21, 2013, 04:34 PM
It actually can. You can subscribe to push updates from subfolders on iCloud mail.
How exactly do you do that? I've been wanting this option for a while. Thanks.

TheKrs1
Aug 21, 2013, 04:50 PM
How exactly do you do that? I've been wanting this option for a while. Thanks.
I can't screen right now (don't have time to remove my corporate stuff from the images).

In Mail.app back out to your top level mailbox view.
Click Edit in the top right
Click "Add Mailbox" at the bottom of the current options (above accounts).
(If you have multiple accounts). Select the account you want the additional mailbox to.
Select the Mailbox you want.
Click Done.


Really? Is this something new that comes with iOS 7?
The ability to do it on your main iCloud account is new. Previously you could add the folders in the account under Settings --> Mail, Contacts & Calendars.

SBacklin
Aug 21, 2013, 05:08 PM
That's just to add folders to iCloud. What me and the other poster is talking about is receiving notifications of incoming mail in folders other then the inbox.

TheKrs1
Aug 21, 2013, 05:14 PM
That's just to add folders to iCloud. What me and the other poster is talking about is receiving notifications of incoming mail in folders other then the inbox.

No, that's not what I was describing. This isn't creating a new folder, it is what is used to list existing folders nested under your inbox in mail.app. In my experience messages filtered to these folders will then hit notification center.

SBacklin
Aug 21, 2013, 05:20 PM
No, that's not what I was describing. This isn't creating a new folder, it is what is used to list existing folders nested under your inbox in mail.app. In my experience messages filtered to these folders will then hit notification center.
Well if you select any current folders, you can either edit the name or delete the folder. Unless there's new options listed there that is new in iOS 7. When selecting any folders listed, what options are listedr? (Assuming you're using iOS 7) **I didn't see the attachments, lemme look**

TheKrs1
Aug 21, 2013, 05:23 PM
Well if you select any current folders, you can either edit the name or delete the folder. Unless there's new options listed there that is new in iOS 7. When selecting any folders listed, what options are listed? (Assuming you're using iOS 7)
I added screens to my last post. In the third and final screen, if I put a check next to "Junk", it would be listed on my main mailbox scren (with unread, personal, attachments, flagged, etc.). Once it's there e-mails are pushed and hit notification center.

SBacklin
Aug 21, 2013, 05:27 PM
I added screens to my last post. In the third and final screen, if I put a check next to "Junk", it would be listed on my main mailbox scren (with unread, personal, attachments, flagged, etc.). Once it's there e-mails are pushed and hit notification center.
I went back to take a look. If that's the case, then I'm glad. I've been hounding Apple to get these features. ;)

TheKrs1
Aug 21, 2013, 05:31 PM
I went back to take a look. If that's the case, then I'm glad. I've been hounding Apple to get these features. ;)

Can't say it will hit the consumer release, but it's there in iOS7 B6! :-)

jtfolden
Aug 21, 2013, 05:31 PM
What I would like is if the badge on Mail would get updated when new messages are read on my Mac.

If 3 new emails come in, iOS reports that in the badge. If I sit down and read them on my Mac instead, the badge is never cleared from the phone until I actually open Mail.

TheKrs1
Aug 21, 2013, 05:32 PM
What I would like is if the badge on Mail would get updated when new messages are read on my Mac.

If 3 new emails come in, iOS reports that in the badge. If I sit down and read them on my Mac instead, the badge is never cleared from the phone until I actually open Mail.

That functionality has been baked in since Mobile Me. Is your account on your phone still set to push?

jtfolden
Aug 21, 2013, 05:34 PM
That functionality has been baked in since Mobile Me. Is your account on your phone still set to push?

It's however iCloud set it up by default when I got the iPhone 5 last November...

Push is what it should be, correct? I just verified and it is.

Conversely, if I read/delete the emails on the iPhone then the mac is immediately updated.

SBacklin
Aug 21, 2013, 06:15 PM
That functionality has been baked in since Mobile Me. Is your account on your phone still set to push?
Apple has already stated in a support article that read statuses aren't pushed to iOS devices if read from your computer. That's been a feature that multiple people want but for some reason it doesn't happen. I'm hoping Apple will update their services to allow it.

dictoresno
Aug 21, 2013, 07:55 PM
What I would like is if the badge on Mail would get updated when new messages are read on my Mac.

If 3 new emails come in, iOS reports that in the badge. If I sit down and read them on my Mac instead, the badge is never cleared from the phone until I actually open Mail.

i have this issue with my icloud emails on my iphone 5, ipad mini and ipod 4. im running ios 7 on both the 5 and mini and emails never sync when checked on one device or another. i need to go into the inbox to make the new messages disappear on the device it wasnt originally checked on. i thought once i checked something on my phone, it would automatically mark it as read on my mini. and ive had icloud set up as my main email for awhile and its always been set on push. i dont have a mac computer, so this issue is plaguing me just across ios devices where i was under the impression it should be working.

SBacklin
Aug 21, 2013, 09:51 PM
i have this issue with my icloud emails on my iphone 5, ipad mini and ipod 4. im running ios 7 on both the 5 and mini and emails never sync when checked on one device or another. i need to go into the inbox to make the new messages disappear on the device it wasnt originally checked on. i thought once i checked something on my phone, it would automatically mark it as read on my mini. and ive had icloud set up as my main email for awhile and its always been set on push. i dont have a mac computer, so this issue is plaguing me just across ios devices where i was under the impression it should be working.
Yeah, its very annoying that Apple doesn't upgrade their systems for the read/delete/moved statuses to be synced from Computer to iOS. If you do it from iOS, it syncs fine, just not the other way around.

SBacklin
Aug 22, 2013, 02:26 AM
I can't screen right now (don't have time to remove my corporate stuff from the images).

In Mail.app back out to your top level mailbox view.
Click Edit in the top right
Click "Add Mailbox" at the bottom of the current options (above accounts).
(If you have multiple accounts). Select the account you want the additional mailbox to.
Select the Mailbox you want.
Click Done.



The ability to do it on your main iCloud account is new. Previously you could add the folders in the account under Settings --> Mail, Contacts & Calendars.
Does it also update the badge icon counter?

dictoresno
Aug 22, 2013, 03:32 AM
Yeah, its very annoying that Apple doesn't upgrade their systems for the read/delete/moved statuses to be synced from Computer to iOS. If you do it from iOS, it syncs fine, just not the other way around.

what im saying is i do it from ios devices, my iphone 5 and mini, and nothing every syncs. if i check it on my phone, it doesnt update my ipad unless i open the app itself to refresh it.

TheKrs1
Aug 22, 2013, 09:39 AM
Apple has already stated in a support article that read statuses aren't pushed to iOS devices if read from your computer. That's been a feature that multiple people want but for some reason it doesn't happen. I'm hoping Apple will update their services to allow it.

Weird. It works perfectly fine for me, my fiance and my parents. And has for years?

the-prophet
Aug 22, 2013, 09:42 AM
Does anyone testing out iOS 7 have/use iCloud email on their device? To those who do, what options does iOS 7 give for marking email messages as junk? Also, is there any notifications with your device with iOS 7 that mail has arrived in the Junk folder?
Yes. For the first time, you can actually send messages to the Junk folder.

Don't know what was stopping us before.

jtfolden
Aug 22, 2013, 10:24 AM
Weird. It works perfectly fine for me, my fiance and my parents. And has for years?

I'm assuming your accounts are set to fetch then and not push.

SBacklin
Aug 22, 2013, 10:47 AM
I'm assuming your accounts are set to fetch then and not push.
That's what I was thinking when I read that.

TheKrs1
Aug 22, 2013, 11:14 AM
I'm assuming your accounts are set to fetch then and not push.

Nope all on push.

SBacklin
Aug 22, 2013, 11:33 AM
Nope all on push.
Then one of the following is happening.

1) You're thinking of reading emails on iOS and the read/move/delete statuses are pushed to everything else, including computers. That will happen. Apple already officially stated that it doesn't work the other way around.

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4083
(I also found a couple of other KB links but, I get 404 errors. So have to wait and see.

2) You're noticing changes after new email arrives. When you read a message on the computer, normally, the iOS system doesn't update automatically as it would doing it the other way around. As stated above, reading on computer, the iOS system will update when new email arrives or the mail app is opened.

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Though, I'm wondering if the read/move/delete status thing is being changed with the introduction of iOS 7?

SanjeevRana
Aug 23, 2013, 05:36 AM
There is a possibility they may change functionality with the new iCloud however, they haven't even included conversation mode in emails on the iCloud Beta portal ... I mean c'mon :mad:

SBacklin
Aug 23, 2013, 02:41 PM
There is a possibility they may change functionality with the new iCloud however, they haven't even included conversation mode in emails on the iCloud Beta portal ... I mean c'mon :mad:
This is one of the reasons why I avoid my checking my email on icloud.com at any cost. It lacks functionality and the lack of convo view is really annoying.

exi
Dec 7, 2013, 10:28 AM
Apologies for the thread bump.

Just curious if someone can confirm that adding folders to the main window within Mail on iOS will allow push notifications for those folders, effectively letting us do the same as we do with subfolder pushing with ActiveSync accounts.

If so, may switch from Gmail to iCloud. That, plus lousy rules, is what still has me using fetch on Gmail on my iPhone.

Prabas
Dec 7, 2013, 04:10 PM
This read mail stuff started happening on iOS 7. When I read mail on my Mac, iOS 7 doesn't do anything until I open it up. I've tried using fetch and push modes.

I don't know about you guys but this is very annoying.

exi
Dec 8, 2013, 12:49 PM
This read mail stuff started happening on iOS 7. When I read mail on my Mac, iOS 7 doesn't do anything until I open it up. I've tried using fetch and push modes.

I don't know about you guys but this is very annoying.

That's a different issue, and also not new to iOS 7. Has been around for some time. I and I'm sure many others have submitted a feature request to Apple to change that behavior, but who knows.