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tag
Nov 27, 2005, 04:59 PM
So I was looking at a picture today (this one) (http://usunet.ru/ug/displayimage.php?pos=-72) and I thought, well this is cool, and was wondering how this is done? I was playing around in Gimp (Haven't gotten around to saving up for photoshop yet :() and couldn't recreate that type of image effect very well.

Does anyone know the typical way something like this is done? I tried a few things including having 2 layers of the same image and then making the top layer B&W, then cutting out the eyes to show the bottom layers color, while this didn't turn out the greatest it did kind of work. And then I guess to change the eye color I could false color the colored bottom layer?

Or perhaps just hand selecting they iris and adding color to a grey image?

I couldn't find any thing of real substance on google information wise so any small nudges would be apprectiated.



cgratti
Nov 27, 2005, 05:06 PM
create a copied layer above the origional, then desaturate it. Use the eraser to erase the top B&W layer of the iris, exposing the colored iris below. Use a soft brush on the eraser.

tag
Nov 27, 2005, 05:24 PM
Ok great, time to play around with some of my photos. Thanks for the info cgratti.

homerjward
Nov 27, 2005, 05:30 PM
i do it slightly differently than cgratti. i select the object i want in color (wand, marquee, paint a quick mask, whatever) then invert the selection and desaturate.

tag
Nov 27, 2005, 05:41 PM
Alrighty, well its always good to have more options than less :D Thanks homerjward I'll give that a go too.

ITASOR
Nov 27, 2005, 06:28 PM
Wow, that is a really cool effect man. I gotta try this in Photoshop now.

May I ask how you "desaturate" the top layer? I understand everything else besides that. I also understand that desaturating the colors in it will make it b/w, I just don't know how to do it. :) Thanks! and thanks to the OP for a good idea!

EDIT: NVM, got it! Image-->Adjustments-->Desaturate! Thanks!

ITASOR
Nov 27, 2005, 06:49 PM
Not the super coolest picture to do it with, but this is what I did with a pic of my desk (when it was clean.):

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/4256/ibookbw8hf.jpg

Thanks tag, for this thread again, this is fun.

cgratti
Nov 27, 2005, 07:13 PM
whatever way works best for you then go with it.

Here are 2 shots I made awhile back. The first one is the selective color and the 2nd is my daughter in a jar..LOL

homerjward
Nov 27, 2005, 07:23 PM
i figured i'd do one just for fun, and i tried cgratti's method. it seems much easier!
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/2428/pikachu3yo.jpg

homerjward
Nov 27, 2005, 07:25 PM
whatever way works best for you then go with it.

Here are 2 shots I made awhile back. The first one is the selective color and the 2nd is my daughter in a jar..LOL
that bridge looks really great!

ITASOR
Nov 27, 2005, 07:39 PM
whatever way works best for you then go with it.

Here are 2 shots I made awhile back. The first one is the selective color and the 2nd is my daughter in a jar..LOL

I know this is kinda weird, but where is that bridge, I've been over a bring that looked exactly the same down to the tree locations and sign locations.....I looked at the picture and had a flashback.

tag
Nov 27, 2005, 07:42 PM
Ok these are fun to do. I really need to go out tomorrow and take some good photos that I can use specifically for messing around with in this way (All my most recent shots are nature ones and trees seem to be the hardest thing to do since they have so many open spots showing background). Anyways, tonight I'm just playing around with random pictures. :D

cgratti
Nov 27, 2005, 07:47 PM
I know this is kinda weird, but where is that bridge, I've been over a bring that looked exactly the same down to the tree locations and sign locations.....I looked at the picture and had a flashback.

The bridge is in central pa. Have ou ever been to Knoebels Amusement Park in Elysburg PA?

It's close to there.

erickkoch
Nov 27, 2005, 08:02 PM
I was experimenting with the same colorizing using Photoshop Elements 3. Here's an example of a pic I was experimenting with. It's not great but it was my first attempt:

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ITASOR
Nov 27, 2005, 08:59 PM
The bridge is in central pa. Have ou ever been to Knoebels Amusement Park in Elysburg PA?

It's close to there.

I don't think so. I was in/around Akron PA, if you know where that is.

cgratti
Nov 27, 2005, 10:21 PM
I don't think so. I was in/around Akron PA, if you know where that is.


i know where that is, not even close to where this bridge is.. LOL

joepunk
Nov 27, 2005, 10:31 PM
And here I am doing this the hard way by actually painting in the colours layer by layer over a B/W photo. Takes me a few hours to get it right.

PlaceofDis
Nov 27, 2005, 10:32 PM
i did this awhile back, what i did was change everything to B&W, then selected the area i wanted to change, and then used the RGB sliders to adjust it to the color i wanted. i then inverted my selection to do the filter.

tag
Nov 27, 2005, 10:33 PM
Oh man I remember going to Knoebels when I was little. I loved that merry mixer ride :D.. I could spin around forever it was fun ( and I remember going off season and the operator guy letting us ride for like half hour strait w/ no stopping since no one else was around lol) Good times.

Man but what in the world is that Knoebel mascot? A mouse? A gopher? A half-man half-woodchuck abomination of science? :eek:

Sdashiki
Nov 29, 2005, 09:55 AM
You can do this a zillion different ways, of which I will name none.

I just have to say that a realistic look iris is a tough thing to achieve if it wasnt already there in the photo to begin with. And that in every case doing this effect you have to make sure you arent just slapping color over something, and are instead "colorizing it", not coloring it.

if this was a coloring book, use the paintbrush tool.

if you want to desaturate selected parts, make sure it actually looks like what you want and not some cheap immitation. Which can be very easy to do in Photoshop sometimes.

tag
Nov 29, 2005, 01:52 PM
You can do this a zillion different ways, of which I will name none.

I just have to say that a realistic look iris is a tough thing to achieve if it wasnt already there in the photo to begin with. And that in every case doing this effect you have to make sure you arent just slapping color over something, and are instead "colorizing it", not coloring it.

Yeah I know what you mean, I searched through all my photos and I didn't have one with a great eye closeup that showed any type of good details, of course I'm currently shooting with a crappy low megapixel powershot camera, though this christmas I'm saving up for a SLR camera, so hopefully then I'll have some good material to work with. But until then I guess I'll just play around and experiment.

Josh
Nov 29, 2005, 02:13 PM
I prefer to create a new hue/saturation adjustment layer, and then create the necessary mask. That way, the original layer isn't messed with, and many adjustments and refinements can be easily made.

As said above though, there literally are a zillion ways to do this, and no one way is better than another. Depends on personal preference is all.

http://static.flickr.com/21/28992923_8b4c57ff3c.jpg?v=0

tag
Nov 29, 2005, 09:06 PM
Just wanted to say thanks for everyones different methods and suggestions. (Been playing with them all :D ) I just keep finding more and more to do image editing wise, while I love Gimp, soon I think I may just be upgrading to PS (Especially since it seems one of my fonts, but who knows which one, keeps crashing the Gimp when I scroll through my font list :mad: ).

ITASOR
Nov 29, 2005, 09:28 PM
i know where that is, not even close to where this bridge is.. LOL

Oh, well they have bridges there that look pretty darned close. :)

cgratti
Nov 29, 2005, 10:33 PM
Oh man I remember going to Knoebels when I was little. I loved that merry mixer ride :D.. I could spin around forever it was fun ( and I remember going off season and the operator guy letting us ride for like half hour strait w/ no stopping since no one else was around lol) Good times.

Man but what in the world is that Knoebel mascot? A mouse? A gopher? A half-man half-woodchuck abomination of science? :eek:

I think its suppose to be some kind of baby bear.. they have alot of bears in the park as themes. They do need an upgrade on their logos and stuff, maybe i'll give them a call. LOL

OutThere
Nov 29, 2005, 10:45 PM
If you run Photoshop, the way I do it is to edit the image all I want, go to the history palette, take a Snapshot of the current state, desaturate the image, and then use the Art History brush to paint on what you want to colorize...it gives you a lot of control over the brush and the location of where you want it to go.

You can also get more control over your desaturated version if you play with the Channels palette, in which you can select the various RGB channels...giving you different feeling B&W images.

Edit: here's an example of something I did with my method in Photoshop CS1

http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/245/miniflower6lo.th.jpg (http://img328.imageshack.us/my.php?image=miniflower6lo.jpg)

BakedBeans
Nov 30, 2005, 02:00 AM
As a photographer that prints images on a very large scale, I cant afford to use methods like new layer+eraser or history brush, its all just a little inacurate for large prints, using the selection tools in conjunction with the selective color and hue/saturation menu gives a much more accurate result.

but for web images the layer+eraser is adequate :)

efoto
Nov 30, 2005, 07:58 AM
Just to throw another option into the mix (for PS, not sure on GIMP):

Once the image is open go to your History Palette, click the little arrow in the upper right corner (dropdown) and click "New Snapshot".

With the Snapshot selected, go to Image > Adjustments > Channel Mixer and then select Monochrome at the bottom (checkbox). Mess with your sliders to get the right monochrome mix you want (R, G, and B values effect a B&W/monochrome differently, so play around for a depth you like but keep them totaling 100).

Go to the main tools palette and select your History Brush. Simply paint through the Snapshot revealing the color in the original image. The Snapshot adds a 'layer' to the History palette, but not the Layers palette, although admittedly I'm not sure what the overall difference is.

I found this to be a pretty quick and simple way to do this type of alteration to images.

Will Cheyney
Nov 30, 2005, 08:14 AM
Such a simple and brilliant effect!
When I've experimented in the past I've used BakedBeans method(s).

BrandonSi
Nov 30, 2005, 09:30 AM
Neat thread! Here's one I did with a photo I took a while back.

yellow
Nov 30, 2005, 09:36 AM
I did this one a while back.. Just cut out the colored pieces I wanted, erased the edges, and them copied them back over the top of a B&W'd version of the same picture.

Sdashiki
Nov 30, 2005, 10:30 AM
anyone use the markers for coloring black and white photos?

those are dope.

DarkBlue-G5
Jan 9, 2006, 08:38 PM
I've always loved this effect. Thanks everyone for the info on how to produce these. :)

FrankieTDouglas
Jan 9, 2006, 09:46 PM
http://andybloxham.com/photography/objects/002.jpg

I have about three layers there. I used a quickmask to pull the colored butt out of the top layer, and removed everything else but that image. I then de-saturated another layer of it, copied it, applied a Gaussian blur to one of the bottom layers and soft light blended it, then blended the color butt on top so it'd "match" better.

2nyRiggz
Jan 10, 2006, 12:26 AM
I did this one a while back.. Just cut out the colored pieces I wanted, erased the edges, and them copied them back over the top of a B&W'd version of the same picture.

now thats cool i like that.


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Sam/B
Jan 10, 2006, 10:16 AM
love that image tag posted with the eye, this one came up whilst looking through some of the others, i've never been able to get that same effect as good as this. Can anyone tell me how would be the best way to get that lighting flare/effect over the black backdrop to the same quality as this one? Really like the pastel/charcoal drawing scanned in of the women when used wiht that effect. I bet you could even go as far then to applying colours and gradients over the top and laying them into it:

http://usunet.ru/ug/albums/userpics/10003/Mind_ReInstallation~0.jpg

hmmm, even better

http://usunet.ru/ug/albums/userpics/10001/Succuba_in_sine.jpg

but for different reasons maybe :o ;)

looks good with a background like this aswell (can't think of the word for this style of work:

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7407/motogpwallpaper8sl.jpg