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thequicksilver
Dec 27, 2005, 09:33 AM
A few members have recently started to use white text in their messages, as an extra "hidden" comment additional to their main "visible" post.
I have nothing against the members involved, but do find this a little tiresome. If something's worth reading, put it in a visible colour, if it's not worth reading, don't write it. :)
It does get annoying, as the users who do this are some of the most active, and if I'm reading a thread it's preferable not to have to highlight all the random areas of plain white on a page to make sure I'm not "missing out" on anything. It also does make the place seem very cliquey, with only regular members knowing of this trend, and newer members missing out on the banter.
Is it just me, or is it a bit of a joke that's gone too far?
Lacero
Dec 27, 2005, 09:38 AM
If I remember correctly, white text was used as a way to hide spoilers in some of the community discussion threads. It was useful, but I'll agree, it's getting out of control.
It does make MR feel cliquey.
WHATEVER! White text rules! Wassup peeps! A joke only goes too far when people get hurt.
Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)
Mr. Anderson
Dec 27, 2005, 09:40 AM
Certain members might be abusing it a bit - but it does serve a purpose from time to time - like Lacero mentioned in the posting of spoilers.
So unless it becomes a huge abuse, I don't think it will go away - and the members who are playing with it now will eventually tire of the game.
D
.:*Robot Boy*:.
Dec 27, 2005, 09:50 AM
I, for one, find it fun. It's not like you're missing out on anything really important. It's like an easter egg, or something, that you can only enjoy by doing something 'extra'.
Haha, made you look!
rdowns
Dec 27, 2005, 10:14 AM
A few members have recently started to use white text in their messages, as an extra "hidden" comment additional to their main "visible" post.
I have nothing against the members involved, but do find this a little tiresome. If something's worth reading, put it in a visible colour, if it's not worth reading, don't write it. :)
It does get annoying, as the users who do this are some of the most active, and if I'm reading a thread it's preferable not to have to highlight all the random areas of plain white on a page to make sure I'm not "missing out" on anything. It also does make the place seem very cliquey, with only regular members knowing of this trend, and newer members missing out on the banter.
Is it just me, or is it a bit of a joke that's gone too far?
Don't worry, we're not posting anything about you.
amacgenius
Dec 27, 2005, 10:16 AM
Don't worry, we're not posting anything about you.
YET anyways...
Lacero
Dec 27, 2005, 10:19 AM
Proper white texting means you need to use #fafafa instead of "white". In the event you feel you may be quoted, and wish to be as stealth as possible, I suggest using #f5f5f5, as that will reduce the chances you'll get outed. Good luck and happy white texting!
ibook30
Dec 27, 2005, 10:27 AM
Proper white texting means you need to use #fafafa instead of "white". In the event you feel you may be quoted, and wish to be as stealth as possible, I suggest using #f5f5f5, as that will reduce the chances you'll get outed. Good luck and happy white texting!
Tips from the master !!!!:D
emw
Dec 27, 2005, 10:46 AM
Didn't I read somewhere that white was the new black? It's just MR's way of keeping up with fashion.
Blue Velvet
Dec 27, 2005, 10:52 AM
I was waiting for someone to mention this... but it doesn't bother me at all.
Occasionally, I do an 'Apple+A' to select the whole page to see what else may be there but surely it's not that important?
And no, I don't tend to use it myself... laziness, really.
mkrishnan
Dec 27, 2005, 10:54 AM
Hmmm, I'm sorry it bothers you. :(
But if I follow you correctly...what you're saying is that it contributes to this place having a culture that people have to get into and be a part of, and that's why you don't like it? The fact that MR has a culture is the only reason I still post here or post here frequently... so that part is hard for me to apologize for. It's not exclusive.
It's not like you have to apply for a permit to do wacky stuff here. Just see it and join in the fun. And the people who do it are not only active posters of garbage...they help people out a *lot* too.... If you try to help people out here, you'll be part of the family whether or not you do stupid white text stuff or change your avatar constantly. I hardly ever change my avatar and people still like me.
Well, okay, I don't change my avatar and people continue to dislike me at the same levels they always have.
OutThere
Dec 27, 2005, 10:56 AM
I was waiting for someone to mention this... but it doesn't bother me at all.
Occasionally, I do an 'Apple+A' to select the whole page to see what else may be there but surely it's not that important?
And no, I don't tend to use it myself... laziness, really.
I read pages highlighted. Especially in certain forums.
yellow
Dec 27, 2005, 11:06 AM
Didn't I read somewhere that white was the new black?
I thought orange was the new pink? :confused:
mkrishnan
Dec 27, 2005, 11:09 AM
I thought orange was the new pink? :confused:
No, Yellow is the new pink. :D
yellow
Dec 27, 2005, 11:17 AM
No, Yellow is the new pink. :D
OOohhh.. I thought yellow was the new brown.
mkrishnan
Dec 27, 2005, 11:26 AM
OOohhh.. I thought yellow was the new brown.
Nope. But "No, Doy" is the new "Word." And "Oh, Snap!" is the new "You've been served." :D
Blue Velvet
Dec 27, 2005, 11:28 AM
OOohhh.. I thought yellow was the new brown.
Don't even go there... the old Blue. :D
mkrishnan
Dec 27, 2005, 11:33 AM
Don't even go there... the old Blue. :D
Don't worry. Blue never goes out of style. ;)
katie ta achoo
Dec 27, 2005, 11:40 AM
I was just talking about recital dresses and my mom said "pink is the new black"
Is it true??
and yea, I ?+A everything when I read.
I like the colour blue it makes. :D
Linam
Dec 27, 2005, 11:48 AM
You can see the white text any way so what's the point?
njmac
Dec 27, 2005, 11:57 AM
Can you see the text in Lacero's post #7 ?
mkrishnan
Dec 27, 2005, 12:02 PM
EDIT: Okay, never mind. If I tilt the LCD to the right angle, I can indeed see "White" text. ;)
emw
Dec 27, 2005, 12:05 PM
I was just talking about recital dresses and my mom said "pink is the new black"
Well, if white was the new black, then wouldn't pink be the new white? :confused: :p
Can you see the text in Lacero's post #7 ?Only if you highlight the post/page. That's the beauty of the Whatever coding. The format of the color= tag is:
[color=#{R value in hex}{G value in hex}{B value in hex}]
FA is hex for 250, which is the RGB value of the posting area, hence making the text the same color as the background. "White" text is R=G=B=255, rending it more like "ghost" text that you can just see.
thequicksilver
Dec 27, 2005, 12:25 PM
Hmmm, I'm sorry it bothers you. :(
But if I follow you correctly...what you're saying is that it contributes to this place having a culture that people have to get into and be a part of, and that's why you don't like it? The fact that MR has a culture is the only reason I still post here or post here frequently... so that part is hard for me to apologize for. It's not exclusive.
It's not like you have to apply for a permit to do wacky stuff here. Just see it and join in the fun. And the people who do it are not only active posters of garbage...they help people out a *lot* too.... If you try to help people out here, you'll be part of the family whether or not you do stupid white text stuff or change your avatar constantly. I hardly ever change my avatar and people still like me.
No, you don't quite catch my drift. The wacky/silly comments are great. Just post them in black. What's the point in masking them? All it's doing is excluding others who don't want to/doesn't realise white comments are there.
What's the difference between your comment :
Well, okay, I don't change my avatar and people continue to dislike me at the same levels they always have.
and:
Well, okay, I don't change my avatar and people continue to dislike me at the same levels they always have.
Answer: you've made it hard to read. Why bother? Just type it normally.
(And if you have to make it different to separate "fun" comments from "serious" ones, why not make them green, or slightly smaller, or in a different font, or italicised, etc? Making them white just adds a hoop for the reader to jump through. Not much of one, I admit, but I prefer to read black on white, not white on light blue, whose contrast isn't optimal…)
ibook30
Dec 27, 2005, 12:34 PM
No, you don't quite catch my drift. The wacky/silly comments are great. Just post them in black. What's the point in masking them? All it's doing is excluding others who don't want to/doesn't realise white comments are there.
What's the difference between your comment :
Well, okay, I don't change my avatar and people continue to dislike me at the same levels they always have.
and:
Well, okay, I don't change my avatar and people continue to dislike me at the same levels they always have.
Answer: you've made it hard to read. Why bother? Just type it normally.
(And if you have to make it different to separate "fun" comments from "serious" ones, why not make them green, or slightly smaller, or in a different font, or italicised, etc? Making them white just adds a hoop for the reader to jump through. Not much of one, I admit, but I prefer to read black on white, not white on light blue, whose contrast isn't optimal…)
I like the white. I like the extra hoop.
I think it's fun !:)
I do see a difference between a hidden message in white and a high contrast message in black. Similiar to body language, it si the way it is delivered not the content of what is delivered. White text has a meaning on it's own - different for everybody on the forum.
mkrishnan
Dec 27, 2005, 12:39 PM
(And if you have to make it different to separate "fun" comments from "serious" ones, why not make them green, or slightly smaller, or in a different font, or italicised, etc? Making them white just adds a hoop for the reader to jump through. Not much of one, I admit, but I prefer to read black on white, not white on light blue, whose contrast isn't optimal…)
Hmmmm, I'm sorry this bothers you so much. I'm not going to try to justify it. We just have ad hoc fun. As far as I know, no one sits down and writes out rules for the fun here before it starts. And most of the games get old fairly quickly anyway. That's just kind of the way the place is. And for all the complaints about MR being unwelcoming to new posters, tons of new people get help here every day, and our ranks don't seem to be shrinking. As I said before, I personally think you'll be happier here if you concentrate on how you can participate and spend less time worrying about what's awfully wrong with the place. But maybe you cannot. I don't know.
thequicksilver
Dec 27, 2005, 01:07 PM
Hmmmm, I'm sorry this bothers you so much. I'm not going to try to justify it. We just have ad hoc fun. As far as I know, no one sits down and writes out rules for the fun here before it starts. And most of the games get old fairly quickly anyway. That's just kind of the way the place is. And for all the complaints about MR being unwelcoming to new posters, tons of new people get help here every day, and our ranks don't seem to be shrinking. As I said before, I personally think you'll be happier here if you concentrate on how you can participate and spend less time worrying about what's awfully wrong with the place. But maybe you cannot. I don't know.
You've mangled my words again, I'm afraid. :)
I'm not unhappy with MR, nor worrying about it, it's a great forum and I love it, but I think this is a tad silly. Compared to the issues at most other fora I've been part of this is small, but it's niggled at me for a while. What I wanted to do was actually have a rational discussion about it so that I could get my head around it a little better, and that those who use it quite often can realise that, you know, it can get a teensy little bit annoying when used to extremes. :) And I don't think that it's unwelcoming, but I think it's just a bit rude, even though 99.99% of new users won't even see the masked white text. It's like being at a table eating dinner with six people who all speak English, but only speaking to the one other person who speaks French, in French. What if I started posting all my messages in French, claiming that it's just a fad? I think you'll see my point of view when I put it that way. :)
I recognise though that this is a genuine fad, but as nobody else has posted a thread in the Feedback section about it, I did. Simple as that. I don't like it, I think it's silly, but c'est la vie. I'll survive. :)
maya
Dec 27, 2005, 01:16 PM
:confused: What's wrong......with using ghost text? I find it rather interesting, sorta like a hidden message on a treasure map or on Currency. Like the movies.
m-dogg
Dec 27, 2005, 01:23 PM
I was waiting for someone to mention this... but it doesn't bother me at all.
Occasionally, I do an 'Apple+A' to select the whole page to see what else may be there but surely it's not that important?
And no, I don't tend to use it myself... laziness, really.
BV, queen of the keybord shortcut! I never knew about that one, but then again, I don't really know any keyboard shortcuts (I'm one of those right-clicker's). ;) Good tip; thanks.
Anyway, I don't mind it either, those I agree it has become a lot more popular lately...
Lord Blackadder
Dec 27, 2005, 01:26 PM
Wow, how many MR members "Command+A" everything when reading? I never thought to do that, and it isn't pleasing to my eye to read that way. Weird.
I thought black was the new white? behind again I see.:rolleyes:
vniow
Dec 27, 2005, 01:30 PM
If you can't beam 'em...join 'em.
emw
Dec 27, 2005, 01:31 PM
Wow, how many MR members "Command+A" everything when reading? I never thought to do that, and it isn't pleasing to my eye to read that way. Weird.You could always set your highlight color to R=G=B=235, which is only slightly darker than the background here, but enough to show the white (or FAFAFA text) clearly.
thequicksilver
Dec 27, 2005, 01:51 PM
You could always set your highlight color to R=G=B=235, which is only slightly darker than the background here, but enough to show the white (or FAFAFA text) clearly.
Or the ten or so people who use it a lot could be nice to the rest of us and do it in a visible colour…
;)
Lord Blackadder
Dec 27, 2005, 02:17 PM
If you can't beam 'em...join 'em.
Hmmmmm....
OK, am I in the club now? Or does this merely make me a white text groupie?:rolleyes:
maya
Dec 27, 2005, 02:19 PM
Hmmmmm....
OK, am I in the club now? Or does this merely make me a white text groupie?:rolleyes:
;) Makes you a......groupie.
Sun Baked
Dec 27, 2005, 02:24 PM
White text is always fun to get in that extra little twist of the knife ...
http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3826
Lord Blackadder
Dec 27, 2005, 02:32 PM
;) Makes you a......groupie.
Well, in that case looks like I'll have to be a strict non-white texter...no more "fafafa" for me. ;)
....It sounds funny when you say "fafafa". Just thought I'd share.:)
emw
Dec 27, 2005, 02:48 PM
A new fad could be to post in colors that spell words.
Such as "decade", "facade", "deface", or "faded".
Or "fad".
I seems that it will work with less than 6 characters as long as they are appropriate hexadecimal numbers.
maya
Dec 27, 2005, 02:49 PM
A new fad could be to post in colors that spell words.
Such as "decade", "facade", "deface", or "faded".
Or "fad".
I seems that it will work with less than 6 characters as long as they are appropriate hexadecimal numbers.
It would be too time consuming to do so. :p :)
emw
Dec 27, 2005, 02:53 PM
It would be too time consuming to do so. :p :)
But there are so many words that could be used.
Of course, it does make it more of a mental challenge than simply using "white" or "FAFAFA". ;)
zelmo
Dec 27, 2005, 03:04 PM
But there are so many words that could be used.
Of course, it does make it more of a mental challenge than simply using "white" or "FAFAFA". ;)
Some of us are already sufficiently mentally challenged, TYVM.:mad:
:eek: :D
emw
Dec 27, 2005, 03:06 PM
Some of us are already sufficiently mentally challenged, TYVM.:mad:
:eek: :DI'm sorry to hear that. It's really too bad. :p
mkrishnan
Dec 27, 2005, 03:09 PM
White text is always fun to get in that extra little twist of the knife ...
Wait, so if I have this right, Sun Baked is here, and so this thread is about to be gone (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=168804&highlight=sun+baked+wasteland), right? :eek: ;) :D
Heh... I personally think we should all start posting in Comic Sans (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=133299&highlight=comic+sans) if we do the fad colors. :)
And also lots of unnecessary cross-linking. :D
Sun Baked
Dec 27, 2005, 03:35 PM
Don't blame me for this group orgy of invisible spam ... at least I try to make sure mine is visible enough to insult as many people as possible. :p
Making it invisible is such a waste, unless these people are embarrassed at their one-liners.
After reading some of them, I can see why. :D
yellow
Dec 27, 2005, 03:39 PM
After reading some of them, I can see why. :D
Allow me the honors, Mohan..
Oh! SNAP!
:D
mkrishnan
Dec 27, 2005, 03:56 PM
Oh! SNAP!
:D
Oh, I just got served. :(
Wes
Dec 27, 2005, 04:35 PM
I hope you all feel guilty about causing carpal tunnel syndrome with all those annoying extra keystrokes to read your "funny" asides...
solvs
Dec 27, 2005, 07:32 PM
I like the white text. Even have some in my sig.
HA! Made you look! Sucker...
:p
katie ta achoo
Dec 27, 2005, 08:16 PM
I hope you all feel guilty about causing carpal tunnel syndrome with all those annoying extra keystrokes to read your "funny" asides...
All the cool kids have carpal tunnel, didn't ya know?
Applespider
Dec 27, 2005, 08:26 PM
I'll come down on thequicksilver's side. I find it a PITA to have to read with Command A selected or to have to look at a post and decide whether the empty rows are empty or have white text in them. At least if there's a smiley floating in midair, you have some idea of whether it's worth checking.
The jokes and asides can be funny but I suspect that they often are missed by those they're aimed at unless that person actually replies and quotes - thus spotting those lines.
MacNut
Dec 27, 2005, 11:51 PM
All the cool kids have carpal tunnel, didn't ya know?well only if you well.....you know.:eek:
2nyRiggz
Dec 28, 2005, 01:13 AM
well i see no peoblem with MR being more of a tight family and share a few things with each other.....its not like the family is closed off and no one can't enter...its for everyone come and go as u please and join in the fun.
one of the reasons i like MR is because how we keep it tight and have a good time with it.
(thinking about pulling the "white text" but i'll let it slide)
Bless
puckhead193
Dec 28, 2005, 01:25 AM
until this moment i never notice this .... and really does it matter....
katie ta achoo
Dec 28, 2005, 01:26 AM
well only if you well.....you know.:eek:
Play violin and viola too much and type waaaay too much, too?
that's how I got mine. :confused:
mad jew
Dec 28, 2005, 01:55 AM
I never use white text. It's fun and keeps things interesting.
~Shard~
Dec 28, 2005, 02:14 AM
I never use white text. It's fun and keeps things interesting.
Me neither. I agree.
mad jew
Dec 28, 2005, 02:18 AM
It's kinda like split personalities. There's the good. And the EVIL! MWUHAHAHAAA!
840quadra
Dec 28, 2005, 04:22 AM
I see no problem with white. Adds to the culture, and makes things fun.
Obviously if you are typing something important it is dumb, but i haven't seen it for anything other then humor, or to hide spoilers.
If people were using it to do personal attacks, or to violate others in hidden ways, I would have to say that kind of action should be stopped by reporting to Moderators.
Chaszmyr
Dec 28, 2005, 05:02 AM
I've never used white text but i for one think that white text inserts can be a great thing as long as they arent abused too much.
mad jew
Dec 28, 2005, 05:03 AM
I see it as a way of having off-topic conversations without annoying other members. How about that weather then?...
Lacero
Dec 28, 2005, 05:08 AM
I see it as a way of having off-topic conversations without annoying other members.
But only used with discretion. I use white text sometimes to hide search keywords so it's easier to search for when the subject itself may be too general in topic.
The weather's amazing warm for this time of year. We didn't get a white Christmas, so that was a bit of a bummer. It's warmer now than it was in the beginning of December when I was freezing my tushie off. Is that room still available?
sushi
Dec 28, 2005, 09:49 AM
Sorry guys, but IMHO posting ghost letters is a waste of everyone's time unless you are hiding spoilers and the like.
But that's just me.
Sushi
~Shard~
Dec 28, 2005, 10:14 AM
Sorry guys, but IMHO posting ghost letters is a waste of everyone's time unless you are hiding spoilers and the like.
But that's just me.
Sushi
I agree.
How is it that this thread hasn't been shut down yet, anyway?
Lacero
Dec 28, 2005, 10:33 AM
...to make sure I'm not "missing out" on anything. It also does make the place seem very cliquey, with only regular members knowing of this trend, and newer members missing out on the banter.
Would newer members be missing out on anything if they weren't expecting to read anything in the first place?
This reminds me of the phrase, and I'm sure you've heard of it before: "If a tree falls in the forest and there is nobody around does it make a sound (http://www.getodd.com/stuf/treefall.html)?".
Likewise, if text was written in a post and nobody could read it, was it actually written? Philosophical questions like these have dumbfounded men for ages and will continue to do so for eternity.
you did not see anything here. see i told you so.
Here's to the Crazy Ones http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35452 (http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/think-different.mov)
Blue Velvet
Dec 28, 2005, 10:42 AM
Philosophical questions like these have dumbfounded men for ages and will continue to do so for eternity.
Good thing there's some women around here then...
BTW: I thought this thread got locked?
~Shard~
Dec 28, 2005, 10:44 AM
Would newer members be missing out on anything if they weren't expecting to read anything in the first place?
Well said! I agree that it's a nice, effective alternative for communication between certain "well established" members here... :p ;)
This reminds me of the phrase, and I'm sure you've heard of it before: "If a tree falls in the forest and there is nobody around does it make a sound (http://www.getodd.com/stuf/treefall.html)?".
Ah yes, I love that question. For fun, I always argue that the tree doesn't actually make a sound, rather its crashing creates vibrations in the air molecules which would require a human ear present in order to translate those vibrations into actual sound. Yes I know that's still not quite right but I don't care, I like to argue about things.
Likewise, if text was written in a post and nobody could read it, was it actually written? Philosophical questions like these have dumbfounded men for ages and will continue to do so for eternity.
Yep, just one of those hidden mysteries of life which some people will never be enlightened on...
Just like our contact with aliens throughout the millennia.
devilot
Dec 28, 2005, 10:51 AM
Good thing there's some women around here then...I <3 you. :D Yup the infamous '<3.'
Sun Baked
Dec 28, 2005, 10:54 AM
On second though, is it possible to modify the board to make sure all of Lacero's posts are made with white text? :cool:
sushi
Dec 28, 2005, 11:03 AM
Would newer members be missing out on anything if they weren't expecting to read anything in the first place?
Maybe not. But then again, this is like wispering at the dinner table or at a meeting. Some are going to feel left out. IMHO, this does not bode well for a community but rather strikes me as being rather clickish if you will.
Sushi
sushi
Dec 28, 2005, 11:05 AM
I agree.
How is it that this thread hasn't been shut down yet, anyway?
Makes one wonder doesn't it? eek! <-- can't use icons it seems.
~Shard~
Dec 28, 2005, 11:14 AM
Makes one wonder doesn't it? eek! <-- can't use icons it seems.
Yes, I noticed that as well. Well, you can use icons like this :cool: however they are not "invisible" like the text and probably look somewhat out of place - or if nothing else, a dead giveaway that you are using white text, which really defeats the purpose...
thequicksilver
Dec 28, 2005, 11:15 AM
Would newer members be missing out on anything if they weren't expecting to read anything in the first place?
This reminds me of the phrase, and I'm sure you've heard of it before: "If a tree falls in the forest and there is nobody around does it make a sound (http://www.getodd.com/stuf/treefall.html)?".
Likewise, if text was written in a post and nobody could read it, was it actually written? Philosophical questions like these have dumbfounded men for ages and will continue to do so for eternity.
you did not see anything here. see i told you so.
Puis, enfaite, j'écrirai en français. Tu ne comprends rien (probablement) puis ça ne te donne aucune problème. Ultimément, ne comprendre pas = ne vois pas, n'est-ce-pas?
Or, in English:
So from now on I'll write in French. You probably don't understand anything, so it's not going to be a problem for you. After all, to not understand is the same as to not see, no?
Cos that's what you're saying. And it's not true. The whispering at the dinner table is the best metaphor there is for it. It's rude.
Lacero
Dec 28, 2005, 11:25 AM
Puis, enfaite, j'écrirai en français. Tu ne comprends rien (probablement) puis ça ne te donne aucune problème. Ultimément, ne comprendre pas = ne vois pas, n'est-ce-pas?
On t'a bercé trop près du mur? Le réalité et toi, vous ne vous entendez pas, n'est-ce pas? Tu es completement d*****e.
How's that for the ultimate in stealth and annoyance.
I think writing in french which everyone can see, and writing in white where no one can see, unless they wanted to, are completely different things.
~Shard~
Dec 28, 2005, 11:30 AM
After all, to not understand is the same as to not see, no?
Ah, more philosophical discussion, I love it! Yes, you are correct, many people are "looking" at things in this world however they are truly not "seeing" reality and do not "understand". Many people look without seeing, yes, that's a good way of putting it.
Cos that's what you're saying. And it's not true.
But it is true, you've just said so yourself above! And you were right the first time, no need to contradict yourself. :p ;) :D
The whispering at the dinner table is the best metaphor there is for it. It's rude.
Ah yes, more philosophy, I love this stuff! I see what you're saying - "whispering" is what is going on aside from the main "conversation", i.e. the white text, and many people do not understand it. And when people do not understand things or truly know what is going on, they become defensive, challenged, and the like - hence why they would incorrectly perceive what they do not understand as being "rude" as you put it, when in fact it is simply because they do not understand the true nature of what is going on. Something is happening contrary to the norm (white text versus plain text) and therefore must be "rude" when in fact it is more a matter of ignorance to the truth.
Fascinating thoughts, I appreciate this in depth discussion. :cool:
Sometimes, it's just too easy...
sushi
Dec 28, 2005, 11:32 AM
Yes, I noticed that as well. Well, you can use icons like this :cool: however they are not "invisible" like the text and probably look somewhat out of place - or if nothing else, a dead giveaway that you are using white text, which really defeats the purpose...
Good minds think alike. Big Smile!
You explained exactly what I was trying to with my shorthand.
It looks weird with an icon in the middle of the page with no text.
Anyhow, this steath mode is a pain in the butt to use.
thequicksilver
Dec 28, 2005, 11:33 AM
On t'a bercé trop près du mur? Le réalité et toi, vous ne vous entendez pas, n'est-ce pas? Tu es completement d*****e.
How's that for the ultimate in stealth and annoyance.
I think writing in french which everyone can see, and writing in white where no one can see, unless they wanted to, are completely different things.
How? Both are deliberately masking something to people without a certain knowledge - one of a foreign language, and one of knowing that there's white text.
kretzy
Dec 28, 2005, 11:52 AM
BTW: I thought this thread got locked?
Hmmm, so did I (edesignuk locked it i believe). Someone must have reopened it, which is a good thing, because I was enjoying it! :)
Anyhow, I usually enjoy checking for hidden text and and on most occasions finding some kind of humorous/witty addition. I don't find it rude at all and as others have said it adds to the fun of this great forum.
PS I don't think there's ever been a thread with so much invisible text. Ah, the irony....
emw
Dec 28, 2005, 11:53 AM
We should ban PM'ing, too - I read that somebody PM'd somebody else and I feel left out.
katie ta achoo
Dec 28, 2005, 11:56 AM
max_altitude-- that only inverts the colour, it's still unreadable... :confused:
it is easier to read once you select all, though.. white on light blue v. black on brown.
We should ban PM'ing, too - I read that somebody PM'd somebody else and I feel left out.
oh em gee, someone got a PM and I didn't?
*throws away PowerBook, Joins dellrumors.com*
Maybe someone *sniff* will love me there!!
*runs off sobbing*
kretzy
Dec 28, 2005, 11:57 AM
We should ban PM'ing, too - I read that somebody PM'd somebody else and I feel left out.
I totally agree. MR might end up liable for the psychiatric bills otherwise.
kretzy
Dec 28, 2005, 12:03 PM
max_altitude-- that only inverts the colour, it's still unreadable... :confused:
Oops, when I tried it out I must have already highlighted the text. :o :o :o
I apologise, it's 4am and I'm not at my sharpest.
How embarrassing. You could have pointed that out to me in invisible text katie ta achoo and saved me the embarrassment!
;) :p
kretzy
Dec 28, 2005, 12:05 PM
oh em gee, someone got a PM and I didn't?
*throws away PowerBook, Joins dellrumors.com*
Maybe someone *sniff* will love me there!!
*runs off sobbing*
See, definitely in need of a shrink. :p
katie ta achoo
Dec 28, 2005, 12:05 PM
Oops, when I tried it out I must have already highlighted the text. :o :o :o
I apologise, it's 4am and I'm not at my sharpest.
How embarrassing. You could have pointed that out to me in invisible text katie ta achoo and saved me the embarrassment!
;) :p
naw.. that's not my style. :D
edesignuk
Dec 28, 2005, 12:16 PM
(edesignuk locked it i believe).I did, but reopened it due to a polite request. I closed it because there's no way white text will be banned, so this is really going no where.
This will probably be closed again soon, as, shockingly, it isn't going anywhere.
~Shard~
Dec 28, 2005, 12:38 PM
Good minds think alike. Big Smile!
Agreed my friend!
Anyhow, this steath mode is a pain in the butt to use.
Agreed, but it is so bastardly! Perhaps that's why I like it so much... <wink><grin>
emw
Dec 28, 2005, 12:43 PM
I did, but reopened it due to a polite request.Ah, now I feel like we are getting closer to the utopian online society that I'd always envisioned MacRumors to be.
Sun Baked
Dec 28, 2005, 07:44 PM
http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14484
lanray
Dec 28, 2005, 10:15 PM
I read MR a lot, and I never knew about this white texting. VERY COOL! Only now I'm going to have to go back and reread all the old threads to see what I've missed. I'd almost rather not have found out. This is going to take months....
~Shard~
Dec 28, 2005, 10:20 PM
I read MR a lot, and I never knew about this white texting. VERY COOL! Only now I'm going to have to go back and reread all the old threads to see what I've missed. I'd almost rather not have found out. This is going to take months....
Have fun, that'll keep you busy for quite some time! :D Did you at least catch this one?
840quadra
Dec 28, 2005, 10:38 PM
Cos that's what you're saying. And it's not true. The whispering at the dinner table is the best metaphor there is for it. It's rude.
As is posting threads in regards to sharing pictures pretty women on their desktops. I am not against that but I am sure some on here object to it as you do white text.
There are one or two things in this community that annoy me, but it is a community, it is going to happen wether it is perceived as rude by myself or not.
thedude110
Dec 28, 2005, 11:26 PM
We should ban PM'ing, too - I read that somebody PM'd somebody else and I feel left out.
Equivocation.
PMing is not only foregrounded in the CP, but is a private conversation between two members.
White Texting is a public way to carry on a conversation that foregrounds the ignorance of other members.
It's ridiculous to get rid of white text and not entirely civil to use it.
~Shard~
Dec 28, 2005, 11:35 PM
I find it absolutely hilarious how seriously some people are taking this whole "white text" thing. It's a freakin' Internet Forum! How do some of these people function in the real world if they get hung up on the "ethics" of using white text in an Internet discusison group? :p :D
Nice try, nothing here.
EricNau
Dec 29, 2005, 04:29 AM
Puis, enfaite, j'écrirai en français. Tu ne comprends rien (probablement) puis ça ne te donne aucune problème. Ultimément, ne comprendre pas = ne vois pas, n'est-ce-pas?
Darn I feel sooo left out. :(
Wait... No I don't! I have Tiger, and therefore I have the Translation widget. ;)
DrNeroCF
Dec 29, 2005, 04:44 AM
I'm gonna ruin everyone's fun and just say that all you have to do is hit apple a...
katie ta achoo
Dec 29, 2005, 04:46 AM
I'm gonna ruin everyone's fun and just say that all you have to do is hit apple a...
<party pooper>
Uhh.. that's already been addressed.
</party pooper>
and I agree with ~Shard
It's an internet forum. *shrug*
Now... if people can start thinking in "white text"
well then.. I'll have to apple+a my whole life...
trippy.
Applespider
Dec 29, 2005, 04:57 AM
As is posting threads in regards to sharing pictures pretty women on their desktops. I am not against that but I am sure some on here object to it as you do white text.
That was a different quicksilver just to set the record straight.
edesignuk
Dec 29, 2005, 05:11 AM
I did, but reopened it due to a polite request. I closed it because there's no way white text will be banned, so this is really going no where.
This will probably be closed again soon, as, shockingly, it isn't going anywhere.I think it's that time again. SHOCK! This went no where!
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