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iriejedi
Jan 27, 2006, 04:03 PM
I was talking to a friend about how I like to play with photoshop and edit out/in detail and he asked if I used a tablet and said I would enjoy it.


Seemed like a good idea. But I suffered sticker shock at the price for a med sized one.

I was expecting them to be in the range of trackballs and nice mice. I was looking at the 6X8 or the following model based on Wacom's web site recommendation.

WACOM Intuos3 PTZ631W 6" x 11" Active Area USB Tablet

Does anyone use these? and for a amature/intermediate skill level with Photoshop CS and Illustratos CS is the price worth it?

Just curious cauise I already have a drawer full of devices that never get used (trackball, joystick etc...)



Sam/B
Jan 27, 2006, 04:10 PM
Their really good for using with the pen tool I find couldn't get half the control and speed with a mouse. Been using mine daily on the latest project of mine some of them like mine you can run a wireless mouse on it so you can sit back in your seat with the tablet on your lap and the mouse in your one hand and the pen behind your ear :cool: :cool: (or is that just me :o )

I paid 25 for one of one these (ebay) - http://www.trust.com/products/productpics.aspx?artnr=13022

ATD
Jan 27, 2006, 05:21 PM
If you are doing painting or things like hair masking in Photoshop they are worth it. The medium sizes are fine, with a larger pad you will be moving your arm a lot more to get from one side of the screen to the other. They do take a few days to get used to feel.

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 27, 2006, 09:21 PM
In the past I found them to be helpful in doing burning and dodging on photographs. Closest I have seen to being in a darkroom.

bigbossbmb
Jan 28, 2006, 02:13 AM
I've got the Wacom Graphire4 (4x5) which I bought for around $100. Its awesome. Very useful for Photoshop, Illustrator, and Flash. The tablet takes some getting used to and some people give up out of frustration, so if you can, try out a tablet either at the store or your friends' before buying one. A larger (than 4x5) would be nice, but this is still a quite usable size.

GoCubsGo
Jan 28, 2006, 03:27 AM
It is by far the best thing on my desk...next to my powerbook that is.

Angelus
Jan 28, 2006, 05:43 AM
Hey, I have the intuos3 8x6. Had it now for bout a year and i must say i love it. I use it entirely for hobby photo editing, working with corel painter and making some animations. As such i don't use it all the time but when i do it's fantastic. The amount of control you have with the pen is far superior to the mouse.

In terms of size i find the medium one the best. The others would have been either too large or too small but this is just right. The pen itself feels nice and solid, has good balance in the hand and also this tablet has tilt sensitivity and double the resolution of the graphires.

There are also some hot keys on both sides of the tablet drawing area and you can map commonly used funtions to these.
It is an expensive purchase and even though i don't use it as often as i probably should, it makes things so much easier when i do need it.

I say go for it.

dops7107
Jan 28, 2006, 05:58 AM
I have an Intuos2 A6 (about 4 by 5 inches I suppose). I remember thinking it was pretty pricey but then someone bought it for me as a prezzie anyway :)

It makes drawing curves in Illustrator so much more easy; it does take a while to figure out the best sensitivity settings for you, but it's really great. Photoshop work is a dream when it comes to retouching, using variable pressure and all. I did use the pen in place of the mouse for general OS stuff, but then I found it is less tiring just to use the mouse, especially with the scroll wheel.

The only downside is that you need to get the latest drivers. Occasionally OS X doesn't recognise the tablet after waking from sleep, and I have to replug the USB. And before the drivers have loaded - i.e. at the OS X login screen, the mouse is super slow.

devman
Jan 28, 2006, 10:07 AM
I've got the Wacom Graphire4 (4x5) which I bought for around $100. Its awesome. Very useful for Photoshop, Illustrator, and Flash. The tablet takes some getting used to and some people give up out of frustration, so if you can, try out a tablet either at the store or your friends' before buying one. A larger (than 4x5) would be nice, but this is still a quite usable size.

agreed. The Graphire is a great little device at a very nice price. 4x5 is a very usable size. Obviously, needing to trace over larger things will require a larger tablet, but for most things (for the non-pro) the size is fine.

RAS admin
Jan 28, 2006, 03:12 PM
I have been using a 9x12 Wacom Intuos2 tablet for the past 6 years. It comes with a wireless/batteryless mouse which glides smoothly across the surface of the tablet. It is the only mouse I use. Oh yeah, the pen works good for cloning/healing brush work in Photoshop too. I also use the pen for supercloning in video applications like After Effects and Commotion Pro. I would definitely recommend a Wacom tablet if you do any of this kind of work.

zim
Jan 28, 2006, 03:44 PM
we have a 9x12 and love it. my wife uses more then i do, i don't even think she uses a mouse. she also has one at work, same scale newer model and again, i don't recall seeing a mouse at her desk she only uses the pen. i like the tablet but often forget to use it. overall i would say they are very much worth the money! i find that when i do use it there is less stress put on my wrist. also, i would love to update to one of the newer proportions and get rid of this old semi transparent blue thing but seeing how it works fine their doesn't appear to be a reason to.

Counterfit
Jan 28, 2006, 07:34 PM
Personally, I'd need a Cintiq, because I don't have the right kind of coordination necessary for a regular tablet. Of course, I don't really have any use for a tablet anyway. I wonder if anyone uses one for games...

joepunk
Jan 28, 2006, 08:33 PM
I purchased a 6x8 Graphire (I believe, don't have it right now to check) Wacom Tablet for $99. It was refurbished and has served me well.

xparaparafreakx
Jan 29, 2006, 05:29 PM
I have a bluetooth 6x8 tablet and use it for school. I use it for newspaper comic cleaning (illustrator CS 2) and yearbook (photoshop CS 2). If you could, go wireless :) .

And yes counterfit, I do use my for Unreal Tournament 2004. It adds a Nintendo DS feel to playing FPS games. Using a pen to move and kill is great. For anyone with a tablet, download UT 2004 and try it out. Remember to use Mouse Mode and not pen mode.

usclaneyj
Jan 30, 2006, 10:37 AM
i have the 6x11. it maps well to my cinema display. i use it for photoshop retouching, photoshop drawing/dodging/coloring/etc and Painter stuff too. It's a lifesaver. I've had 3 wacoms now (2 6x8s and the 6x11).. going all the way back to the old serial port Intuos days. They are a necessity for me.

iriejedi
Jan 30, 2006, 10:51 AM
i have the 6x11. it maps well to my cinema display. i use it for photoshop retouching, photoshop drawing/dodging/coloring/etc and Painter stuff too. It's a lifesaver. I've had 3 wacoms now (2 6x8s and the 6x11).. going all the way back to the old serial port Intuos days. They are a necessity for me.


Hi Everyone! I really appreciate all the feed back - I seem to be really hooked on the idea of the 6X11 intuous3 - so that sounds like a good item worth saving up for.

Thanks again!

Irie J

aricher
Jan 30, 2006, 11:51 AM
The 4x5 size is perfect for traveling with. Anything larger is too big for a backpack or messenger bag. I've been using Wacom products for 10 years now. It's gotten to the point where I couldn't draw or path with a mouse if my life depended on it. I rarely use my mouse anymore. It's really helped me to stave off the onset of carpal tunnel. The tablet is essential if you spend any amount of time in graphics programs.

electronboy
Jan 30, 2006, 03:44 PM
Worth every penny if you will be drawing or want finer control of art, photos or other creative content. If you can't afford an Intuos tablet look at their Graphire line which is somewhat cheaper. Once you use a Tablet you will never go back to a mouse to draw or edit photos and/or art on your computer. The tablet has at least 1024 pressure sensitive levels and also can detect the angle that you are holding your pen. You can setup the pen or other device prefs per application, meaning the possibilities are endless.

apple4life
Jan 30, 2006, 05:42 PM
I love it...paid $89.00 at Amazon. I make my living with art and couldn't live without it. And the white matches my iBook perfectly... and it will match my iMac that I'll purchase once the Intel dust settles. Oh yea, PSE 3.0 is really nice and comes with it. I haven't used the Corel Painter that comes with it as I'd like to get the full version... once I get my 20" iMac... :)

One way I have recently begun using it is to create a very light line drawing in PSE and print it onto watercolor paper... then I have my composition in place ready for color... and I can duplicate it or change it in any way on the next printing... pretty cool huh?

xparaparafreakx
Jan 30, 2006, 10:47 PM
The 4x5 size is perfect for traveling with. Anything larger is too big for a backpack or messenger bag.

My Bluetooth 6x8 goes into my backpack everyday. Its in there with my TiBook and all my other things high school students carry. I never carry the mouse, only the pen.

sintaxi
Feb 3, 2006, 04:35 AM
just got one a week ago and have hardly used it. this thread has inspired me to get at it.

iriejedi
Feb 3, 2006, 07:39 AM
Wow - I never thought I could ever inspire anyone :p Drop a note as to how the change from awkward to awesome comes arround.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to get one soon - but I now wonder with all Apple's patents... any chance the new gossip is really about an Apple version of a Wacom tablet?


just got one a week ago and have hardly used it. this thread has inspired me to get at it.

Xeem
Feb 3, 2006, 02:47 PM
Most Photoshop powerusers that I know swear by them; I don't use them at all anymore, not since my ADB tablets were rendered obsolete.

iKwick7
Feb 3, 2006, 02:57 PM
I bought the wide format Intuos3 from Amazon yesterday (before I found this thread!) and I will be playing with it when it arrives today. Free shipping rocks when it ships from 1 state over and arrives the next day!! I will be using it for drawing and sketching, but I also would like to see how well the pen works with SketchUp.

lorien
Feb 11, 2006, 09:25 AM
Well I bought the cheapest Wacom tablet available 3 years ago (Graphire 3 I think it was) and it has been one of my best electronics buys ever since. I use Illustrator with it mostly and can't imagine going back to mice!
Once I've gotten a new MacBook Pro I'll buy an Intuos I think :cool:

zerosnipe
Feb 11, 2006, 02:11 PM
I have a Wacom Intuos3 6x8. I went through several places that said they had it in stock or would get it in the next couple days when i talked to them on the phone needless to say i canceled all of them and had to go with apple who shipped it out right away. Was it worth all the hassle i had to go through to get it? I would say defiantly, i never use a mouse unless i need to use my left hand since it is alot harder to do anything with my left hand and the pen. I use photoshop and illustrator with it and when i was at school and trying to use a mouse i usually don't even bother the mouse is so clumsy and i am to used to the tablet.

iriejedi
Feb 11, 2006, 03:15 PM
This has definitely turned into the I LOVE WACOM thread.

What surprises me is that there is not one person who replied that complained about the product.

My company used to serve free lunches and someone will complain about something!

I'm goign to invest in the 6X11 Intuous3... soon.... $300 sounds like alot but with all the posts being so positive... I am confident that I will not be making another gadget mistake.

Again I thank you all for the input and encouragement.:)

ATD
Feb 11, 2006, 05:02 PM
Not a complaint but a small note about using them. If you have never used one, you may be tempted to throw it out the window after playing with for the first 10 minutes. They have a much different feel than a mouse and it will take a few days to get used to it, it's kind of like switching writing hands. Once you get used to it you will love it. ;)

dogbone
Feb 12, 2006, 02:08 AM
I am confident that I will not be making another gadget mistake.



And you would be wrong because when you realise that this item will outlast any of your other equipment you will regret not getting a 9x12 size.

I used a smaller tablet recently at a friends place and it was almost as bad as going back to a mouse. A smaller tablet almost becomes a glorified track pad.

For proper hand/eye/monitor coordination you really need a 1:1 (or close) ratio of pen to cursor movement. Not to mention the incovenience of running out of space when drawing out bezier handles. The only solution to the latter is to work as smaller magnifications which sort of defeats the purpose of drawing a dead accurate clipping path.

zerosnipe
Feb 12, 2006, 07:58 PM
And you would be wrong because when you realise that this item will outlast any of your other equipment you will regret not getting a 9x12 size.

I used a smaller tablet recently at a friends place and it was almost as bad as going back to a mouse. A smaller tablet almost becomes a glorified track pad.

For proper hand/eye/monitor coordination you really need a 1:1 (or close) ratio of pen to cursor movement. Not to mention the incovenience of running out of space when drawing out bezier handles. The only solution to the latter is to work as smaller magnifications which sort of defeats the purpose of drawing a dead accurate clipping path.

The person said they wouldn't be making a mistake not that they would be making a mistake. Might help to read the post, they are gloating at how the wacom tablets have such high praise and so the person is confident they will not be making a gadget mishap

Plymouthbreezer
Feb 12, 2006, 08:32 PM
I love my Wacom Graphire3, which I've had for over a year now. It gives you so much more control over a mouse, even in smaller tablets.

dogbone
Feb 12, 2006, 09:29 PM
The person said they wouldn't be making a mistake not that they would be making a mistake. Might help to read the post, they are gloating at how the wacom tablets have such high praise and so the person is confident they will not be making a gadget mishap


Yes, I am quite well aware that they said they wouldn't be making a mistake and I disagreed with them for the reasons I stated. Perhaps you did not comprehend that I was saying the mistake was they were going for the wrong size?

RJShroyer
Jan 10, 2008, 07:56 PM
Yesterday, I bought a 6 X 11 3 Wacom, and want to try editing photos with it.
But I really have need of a tool to annotate and correct printed text -- like a student essay -- without the text being pushed to the side when I use the Wacom pen. At least in Word 2004 for a mac, I'm having some trouble, and can use some help.

pdxphotoman
May 6, 2014, 10:50 PM
Their really good for using with the pen tool I find couldn't get half the control and speed with a mouse.

This is an old thread, but still seems to be true. Next to the Magic Mouse, the Wacom Mouse is antediluvian, but the pen tool is really great. My workflow is to keep the tablet nestled under the Imac 27 stand and drag it forward when I need to use the pen tool.

viizi
May 7, 2014, 11:03 AM
I use wacom for everything on the mac ever since my trackpad batteries went out and had no spares. I am so accurate and quick with it probably a lot faster than mouse even. I am a graphic designer and digital painter so I was using it a lot before anyway but using it for everything only sped up my accuracy experience so I am glad to use it. Very comfortable for me.

When you first start using it you will probably dislike it but if you push through, in a week you will be up to scratch and in a month you will be mastered.

Do your wrist a favour and get one :)
The intuos 3 is awesome

960design
May 8, 2014, 07:08 AM
Have I replied to this one yet? Seems so many are asking?

Yes I love my WACOM! Better than sliced bread.

Everyone is correct, it will take a little getting used to. Like moving from the UK to America and driving on the wrong side of the road. At first it's a little weird, then you realize the roads are BIGGER, longer and you can drive faster.

RIZZO124
May 8, 2014, 10:15 PM
I've bought Wacom tablets for the past 15 years. Got tired of the high price and went with Huion. The tablet is excellent and works fine. I got twice the resolution and size for half the price. The only difference is that the Huion pen stylus needs a aaa battery. At first I thought this was bad but now if prefer it because the pen has some heft and weight to it and is a pleasure to use. Ditch the Wacom.

blanka
May 20, 2014, 02:44 AM
Break a leg: get the biggest (A4 size), suffer from the crash on your account, and enjoy it for 10 years.

Hint: I was working in 2 spaces and carried the Wacom between. Then I found a second hand Intuos 3 for 100 bucks. A second hand Intuos 3 or 4 a4 size is ALWAYS BETTER than the newest smaller one!