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KKKL
Jan 28, 2006, 10:54 AM
Happy Chinese New Year!!!



maya
Jan 28, 2006, 11:02 AM
Happy Chinese New Year. :)

Year of the Dog. Dang. :(

devilot
Jan 28, 2006, 11:26 AM
I guess if we want to be politically correct, shouldn't it be Happy Lunar New Year? Non-Chinese Asians also observe this holiday. :p

Can't wait... gonna have at least 15 relatives over today. Sigh. Gotta go clean the house though. :o

KKKL
Jan 29, 2006, 09:54 AM
I guess if we want to be politically correct, shouldn't it be Happy Lunar New Year? Non-Chinese Asians also observe this holiday. :p

Can't wait... gonna have at least 15 relatives over today. Sigh. Gotta go clean the house though. :o
Chinese New Year = Lunar New Year,
I don't know what Non-Chinese Asians do you mean, but maybe they have Chinese blood lineage or they are Overseas Chinese.

devilot
Jan 29, 2006, 10:10 AM
Chinese New Year = Lunar New Year,
I don't know what Non-Chinese Asians do you mean, but maybe they have Chinese blood lineage or they are Overseas Chinese.I mean Vietnamese, some Koreans, and I'm sure some Japanese celebrate the Lunar New Year. I don't know enough about Asian cultures... possibly others out there as well.

angelneo
Jan 29, 2006, 10:36 AM
Happy Chinese New Year to you all as well, I just spent the whole day visiting my friends and relatives. Well, the chinese has a tradition of giving "red packets" to younger, unmarried children and money are put in those packets. To some of the kids, chinese new year is when they can get lots of pocket money.

KKKL
Jan 29, 2006, 10:39 AM
I mean Vietnamese, some Koreans, and I'm sure some Japanese celebrate the Lunar New Year. I don't know enough about Asian cultures... possibly others out there as well.
Long long time before, there was a period, large number of Chinese move to Korea, Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore... nearly the whole Asia and settled down there. They followed the Lunar New Year custom and past it down from generation to generation...

KKKL
Jan 29, 2006, 10:45 AM
Happy Chinese New Year to you all as well, I just spent the whole day visiting my friends and relatives. Well, the chinese has a tradition of giving "red packets" to younger, unmarried children and money are put in those packets. To some of the kids, chinese new year is when they can get lots of pocket money.
:mad: :(
I lost a red packet today, the red packet was givin by my grandma. I put it in the coin pocket of my jeans and i couldnot find it anymore when got home.:( :mad:

bousozoku
Jan 29, 2006, 12:21 PM
Gong xi fa cai! Happy Chinese New Year!

What is the year? 4500+?

SamIchi
Jan 29, 2006, 01:34 PM
Happy New Years, I was just about to make a topic. I noticed Google had the dog thingy, which I thought was cool.

[] <--- Lucky envelopes for MR :D

Abstract
Jan 29, 2006, 05:25 PM
I guess if we want to be politically correct, shouldn't it be Happy Lunar New Year? Non-Chinese Asians also observe this holiday. :p


If you don't think it's chinese new year, go start your own thread. :p

It's chinese new year for the next 10 days or so if you're hardcore, and even if you're not, you'll celebrate for at least 3 days.

Gong xi fa cai! Happy Chinese New Year!

That's in Mandarin. In Cantonese, it's "Gong Hei Fat Choi" (don't know how to spell it....I'm doing it phonetically). :)

bousozoku
Jan 29, 2006, 06:48 PM
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That's in Mandarin. In Cantonese, it's "Gong Hei Fat Choi" (don't know how to spell it....I'm doing it phonetically). :)

Close enough. I was thinking that I had seen Gong Ji Fat Choy years ago before the Mandarin transliteration was changed by China. It doesn't really matter.

Oh, and by the way, the year is 4704, if anyone else wants to know.

Abstract
Jan 29, 2006, 07:31 PM
Ok, I'll try again:

Cantonese: Göng Hei Fat Choi (hope that diaeresis/dieresis shows up on your screens)
Mandarin: Göng Shi/Xi Fa Chai

I don't know Mandarin though (trying to teach it to myself.....yes, it's hard), so I don't know if I did it right, but I always thought that "romanizing" chinese was done very very poorly.

I mean, my last name is "Kwan," but whether you use Mandarin or Cantonese, it's pronounced "Gwan" or "Guan," similar to how the country/territory Guam is pronounced, but with an "n". It's all done wrong, and I wish people would make it right.

mcarnes
Jan 29, 2006, 08:03 PM
I thought it was "gun-e-maw". :p

Eevee
Jan 29, 2006, 08:30 PM
Having a great Chinese New Year

Dressed "Eevee" in a traditional Chinese outfit. She's two years old and our friends just loved her running around yelling "Happy New Years!"

Had great Chinese food.

Only problem is that I don't have enough $ to give out in red envelopes.

For those who received $, how much did you get? Just curious!;)

bousozoku
Jan 29, 2006, 08:53 PM
Ok, I'll try again:

Cantonese: Göng Hei Fat Choi (hope that diaeresis/dieresis shows up on your screens)
Mandarin: Göng Hei Fa Chai

I don't know Mandarin though (trying to teach it to myself.....yes, it's hard), so I don't know if I did it right, but I always thought that "romanizing" chinese was done very very poorly.

I mean, my last name is "Kwan," but whether you use Mandarin or Cantonese, it's pronounced "Gwan" or "Guan," similar to how the country/territory Guam is pronounced, but with an "n". It's all done wrong, and I wish people would make it right.

I understand what you're saying. The thing that makes Japanese easier to pronounce than other Asian languages is that they have one decent transliteration (Hepburn) that looks the way it sounds and the one the government created, which is what you would expect--not quite right.

Of course, Chinese has so many intonations for a single vowel, it's much more difficult. Add in the various dialects besides Mandarin and Cantonese and it's more difficult than anything else on the planet.

Funny, listening to a t.v. commercial for Asian cars is amazing because the people mess up the names so horribly. Isuzu is so simple and yet people can't say e-sue-zoo and some dude the other night was saying Hahnd eye for Hyundai when it should be Hun day at least.

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 29, 2006, 09:06 PM
If you don't think it's chinese new year, go start your own thread. :p

LOL, go easy. In todays PC world I found that post informative.

kretzy
Jan 29, 2006, 09:15 PM
I always love checking out the festivities in China Town in Melbourne, there's always lots going on. I love learning about the celebrations of of countries and cultures.

Happy New Year! :)

KKKL
Jan 29, 2006, 10:19 PM
Mandarin: Gong Xi Fa Cai

Jon'sLightBulbs
Jan 29, 2006, 11:16 PM
I thought it was "gun-e-maw". :p


No circumventing the profanity filter!

devilot
Jan 30, 2006, 12:17 AM
If you don't think it's chinese new year, go start your own thread. I do think it's "Chinese New Year" seeing as I am Chinese. But there are other folks out there who aren't aware that other cultures also celebrate the Lunar New Year.For those who received $, how much did you get? Just curious!Not as much in past years but that's fine by me. At my age, I'm just stoked to get anything! :D I'm in college... and I got $90 from aunts/bf's mom, my mom gave me at least double that! She spoils me rotten.Of course, Chinese has so many intonations for a single vowel, it's much more difficult. Ai-yah! Flashbacks from Chinese school. Er. I dunno how to type it. :o The darn four intonations for the 'tzoo-ing.' Oh man. I almost always got those wrong on my tests.

All that aside. My parents and I just came back from dinner out in a Chinese restaurant. It was beyond packed (and it's a lousy place, too)! I am so glad we didn't bother going near the yummier places-- the wait in other places was probably over an hour just to be seated. :eek:

e˛Studios
Jan 30, 2006, 12:28 AM
My wife went to the farmers market today and said someone kept asking her about what she was going to do.. She simply stated that she was Japanese and didn't observe it. She said she felt rude walking away from the person but they kept going on and on :p

Ed

bousozoku
Jan 30, 2006, 12:39 AM
Mandarin: Gong Xi Fa Cai

Didn't i say that already? :D

I do think it's "Chinese New Year" seeing as I am Chinese. But there are other folks out there who aren't aware that other cultures also celebrate the Lunar New Year.
...
Ai-yah! Flashbacks from Chinese school. Er. I dunno how to type it. :o The darn four intonations for the 'tzoo-ing.' Oh man. I almost always got those wrong on my tests.

All that aside. My parents and I just came back from dinner out in a Chinese restaurant. It was beyond packed (and it's a lousy place, too)! I am so glad we didn't bother going near the yummier places-- the wait in other places was probably over an hour just to be seated. :eek:

I can handle a little Chinese but it's like Mantonkien. :D

It's sad that you would go to a lousy place. I hope that you don't have food poisoning. I would have gone to a Chinese restaurant but, in the Orlando area, they're all lousy. :eek:

My wife went to the farmers market today and said someone kept asking her about what she was going to do.. She simply stated that she was Japanese and didn't observe it. She said she felt rude walking away from the person but they kept going on and on :p

Ed

We're a practical people. One new year a year is enough, right? :D

devilot
Jan 30, 2006, 01:02 AM
It's sad that you would go to a lousy place. I hope that you don't have food poisoning.Haha. It's not that bad! Actually, well, it's the new year, my father is leaving for Taiwan tomorrow, and the restaurant we wanted to try out was closed! :confused: <-- That's the first time I've seen a Chinese-owned business closed on a holiday. :o So we just went to another place nearby. Sigh.

bousozoku
Jan 30, 2006, 02:11 AM
Haha. It's not that bad! Actually, well, it's the new year, my father is leaving for Taiwan tomorrow, and the restaurant we wanted to try out was closed! :confused: <-- That's the first time I've seen a Chinese-owned business closed on a holiday. :o So we just went to another place nearby. Sigh.

Good, then. I'd hate to see someone sick for eating.

I'm reminded of going to a Japanese restaurant run by Chinese in Philadelphia's China Town. It was highly recommended by co-workers. I ordered unaju--roasted eel on rice. It was burnt when they delivered it to my table. I complained. They told me that it was just the skin. I told them that it was the burnt skin and I flaked some of it onto the rice...ewwww. They replaced it immediately. That was a lousy restaurant. Now, if the people at a Japanese restaurant don't speak Japanese, I leave. :D

Bern
Jan 30, 2006, 02:40 AM
Happy Lunar New Year. It's not just the orientals who celebrate this.

bousozoku
Jan 30, 2006, 02:49 AM
Happy Lunar New Year. It's not just the orientals who celebrate this.

It's not a good idea to call the Chinese orientals. :eek:

Abstract
Jan 30, 2006, 07:08 AM
^^Why not? I don't personally care. But do tell me why it's a big deal anyway in case you know more than me, and you probably do.

And last night, I went to an occidental restaurant and had some of their bland food. Ahhh.....occidental.....it feels good to say that. Got that off my chest.

Didn't i say that already? :D


Neither of you need to correct me. I was simply saying that using "romanized" or "english" text, "Gong Xi Fa Cai" isn't correct phonetically. Romanized chinese is also really bad in Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, Singapore, and everywhere else for that matter. And since I can't read chinese text, I actually rely on the phonetics sometimes to get by, which would be impossible if you do this, especially in HK. :o

....and the restaurant we wanted to try out was closed! :confused: <-- That's the first time I've seen a Chinese-owned business closed on a holiday. :o

That's impossible! :eek: They're not Chinese. They can't be.

angelneo
Jan 30, 2006, 09:10 AM
Neither of you need to correct me. I was simply saying that using "romanized" or "english" text, "Gong Xi Fa Cai" isn't correct phonetically. Romanized chinese is also really bad in Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, Singapore, and everywhere else for that matter. And since I can't read chinese text, I actually rely on the phonetics sometimes to get by, which would be impossible if you do this, especially in HK. :o

Actually we call it han yu pin yin here in Singapore, to help pronunciate the characters. I can write and read chinese, for writing, mostly the simplified chinese characters. If you were to compare me with those from China, my skill is really bad. Actually for those Chinese nationals, they consider those chinese born outside of China somewhat impure.

devilot
Jan 30, 2006, 10:56 AM
That's impossible! :eek: They're not Chinese. They can't be.Or... they're so 'Chinese' that they have to have the day off. (Well, guess they can't get away with a week's vacation, but closing for a Sunday night is doable. ;))

bousozoku
Jan 30, 2006, 01:23 PM
^^Why not? I don't personally care. But do tell me why it's a big deal anyway in case you know more than me, and you probably do.

And last night, I went to an occidental restaurant and had some of their bland food. Ahhh.....occidental.....it feels good to say that. Got that off my chest.



Neither of you need to correct me. I was simply saying that using "romanized" or "english" text, "Gong Xi Fa Cai" isn't correct phonetically. Romanized chinese is also really bad in Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, Singapore, and everywhere else for that matter. And since I can't read chinese text, I actually rely on the phonetics sometimes to get by, which would be impossible if you do this, especially in HK. :o



That's impossible! :eek: They're not Chinese. They can't be.

I promise that I wasn't correcting you. I've been seeing that Mandarin for the last week from online friends from Malaysia and Singapore.

In my experience (and hopefully this has faded), if you call a Chinese an Oriental, they will become enraged because Chinese call Japanese Orientals. Typically, Chinese have hated Japanese but hopefully, this has gone away as the older people have died. I haven't witnessed it for a long time.

Actually we call it han yu pin yin here in Singapore, to help pronunciate the characters. I can write and read chinese, for writing, mostly the simplified chinese characters. If you were to compare me with those from China, my skill is really bad. Actually for those Chinese nationals, they consider those chinese born outside of China somewhat impure.

Well, Singapore does practice the use of English instead of any other language. Most everyone I know there has serviceable written Chinese but speak much better than they read and write.

Butthead
Jan 30, 2006, 05:24 PM
Ok, I'll try again:

Cantonese: Göng Hei Fat Choi (hope that diaeresis/dieresis shows up on your screens)
Mandarin: Göng Shi/Xi Fa Chai

I don't know Mandarin though (trying to teach it to myself.....yes, it's hard), so I don't know if I did it right, but I always thought that "romanizing" chinese was done very very poorly.

I mean, my last name is "Kwan," but whether you use Mandarin or Cantonese, it's pronounced "Gwan" or "Guan," similar to how the country/territory Guam is pronounced, but with an "n". It's all done wrong, and I wish people would make it right.

Oh Noooo! Don't ruin my fantasies damn you. Now how do you expect me to be Kwanstruck, drooling over her uber taught sexy little bod at the Olympics (http://goldsea.com/Asiagate/601/28kwan.html), if I have to be now phonetically correct and be 'Guanstruck'... just doesn't have the right sound to it :-(

^^Why not? I don't personally care. But do tell me why it's a big deal anyway in case you know more than me, and you probably do.

Neither of you need to correct me. I was simply saying that using "romanized" or "english" text, "Gong Xi Fa Cai" isn't correct phonetically. Romanized chinese is also really bad in Hong Kong, Taiwan, China, Singapore, and everywhere else for that matter. And since I can't read chinese text, I actually rely on the phonetics sometimes to get by, which would be impossible if you do this, especially in HK. :o IIRC, the Singapore Chinese have a modified slang, kind of like a version of Pigeon English, just a Pigeon Chinese... I forget what it's called, but they only understand that style of modified language in Singapore.



That's impossible! :eek: They're not Chinese. They can't be.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking

I do think it's "Chinese New Year" seeing as I am Chinese. But there are other folks out there who aren't aware that other cultures also celebrate the Lunar New Year.Not as much in past years but that's fine by me. At my age, I'm just stoked to get anything! :-D I'm in college... and I got $90 from aunts/bf's mom, my mom gave me at least double that! She spoils me rotten.Ai-yah! Flashbacks from Chinese school. Er. I dunno how to type it. :o The darn four intonations for the 'tzoo-ing.' Oh man. I almost always got those wrong on my tests.


Lol, Ms. Devilot'r; my Katie Holmes like version of a Taiwanese ABC who was around 30yrs old at the time, was given title to a old post-WWII, remodeled to look newer; $1/2M LA tract home...for a 'reasonable consideration' is how I think the recorded deed is legally worded (i.e. they gave it to her as a freebie, gift). No, her parents aren't rich, and yes she's very spoiled and immature like Paris ;-).

Darn four intonations; my grandmother wouldn't let my mother learn Chinese as a child because she always mispronounced those intonations incorrectly. Chinese is supposedly the most difficult language for those who are of Western/European speaking languages. But Korean is no walk in the Park (heh, bad pun) either. Not to drift OT (but the mod brought it up, and FOB managers at the local HK style dim sum service restaurants in La La Land do say 'orientals' in speaking of Asians in general, and not in a derisive way...unlike the perceptions of Americanized/Westernized Asians who think it's offensive). Certainly with the rising global economic power that China has become, Mandarin (http://goldsea.com/Asiagate/601/02chinese.html) has become popular for the younger generation of students here in the USA and other countries...Cantonese was once the international language of favor for speaking Chinese :-( ) Check out this thread about HK local accent/dialect Chinese prejudices: WHAT FOBs THINK OF AMERICAN-BORN ASIANS (http://goldsea.com/Air/Issues/FOB/fob_20319.html)

Closed any day, means the world is coming to an end :P, what is the world coming to when the Chinese become so affluent and westernized that the traditional culture of restaurants open 365 days a year has changed, I mean that's just so un-American... err, I meant just so 'un-Chinesian'??? Some Korean restaurants close for Western solar NY her in the states, while many Japanese restaurants close. I wonder if it has to do with how much more the Japanese have been more influenced by Western cultural pressures??? Many Japanese stores and restaurants will be open on Christmas however, even if that has become a major 'marketing' holiday in Japan. When after-Christmas and Thanksgiving sales become the major shopping days in China, then you know society has gone to hell :P

BTW, the 1st full-moon of the season may have happened in China on the night of the 28th/29th, but on the west coast of the USA, there is no full moon on the same day/night...just have to fudge the tradition in order to celebrate the oldest of human yearly celebrations.

But Ms. Devilot is correct, most Asians celebrate the 'Chinese' Lunar New Year, but they don't say Happy Lunar New Year, it's just "Happy New Year", with the knowledge already that it refers to that of the Chinese calendar traditional celebration.

Celebrating Korean Style: Korean Sul-Nahl. Sae hae bok mani baduhseyo! (Happy New Year!)
(http://www.asianweek.com/2000_02_10/feature_koreannewyear.html) "It remains a kind of mystery as to why the Lunar New Year is known so broadly in America as the Chinese New Year. It may be that the Chinese, being the first Asians to immigrate here, lent their national identity to this annual, Asian-wide celebration.

With this in mind -- and in these days of recognizing the specific distinctions, as well as the commonalties of every ethnic group -- it seems like an anachronism to keep referring to this Asian lunar holiday as Chinese New Year.

Many Asian cultures celebrate the Lunar New Year in their own ways."

They had this kind of weird ass comedy/variety/American Idol-mixed with Beauty & the Geeks like contest special New Years Eve show from Taiwan?; on LA 18 TV last Friday (which would have been NY eve in Asia), where these dorky/geeky guys come out before a studio audience, two hosts, a panel of 3 'judges'? and 5 lovely ladies sitting in Jetson's cartoon like chairs...to win a New Years date with one of them??? Oh, well I can't read of speak any kind of Chinese, but I thought it was quite funny when these women kept (almost all the subtitles were in Chinese) saying, and translated into English subtitles "Oh My God", along with involuntary giggle fest from them and the audience, lol.

Dork #5 "Paco"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/udaman/deliciousS/paco5.jpg

Dork #4 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/udaman/deliciousS/num4.jpg

Dorkiest of all Nori http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/udaman/deliciousS/nori2.jpg

Lady in short black skirt and stockings was very cute :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/udaman/deliciousS/black-skirt.jpg

Anyone read Chinese?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/udaman/deliciousS/cuttie3_.jpg

Also, unfortunately there are still bad feelings between Chinese nationalists and what happened to them as the result of Japanese 'imperialism' in the past. Just last year there were violent protests in China against/because of these past grievances about the Japanese and how this past is not taught to the youth of Japan. So I think bousozoku is wrong in part, because it's the young Chinese who were doing the protesting, not elderly victims.

While Kwan maybe pronounced the same, plenty of other words/names are not. Take the dim sum dumpling we call in English "fun gow". According to a HK native, just graduated from LB State here, and speaks English with no accent as though she were a native; "Fun Gow" is pronounced differently in Cantonese (at least her HK knowledge of it) and Mandarin. Cantonese is more like 'Fun gawr' (which sounds like something kind of in between 'fun gow' & 'fun gor') and mandarin is more like 'fun gor'... pretty much impossible for me to spell it correctly/phonetically, you'd just have to listen to her pronounce the two variations. Then have me try to say it in my 'flat' English pronunciation and either way to a Cantonese or Mandarin speaking FOB at the dim sum service, and they all look at me and give me a look like..."WTEff did you just say...speak Chinese damn it, I can't understand you ;-) ?"

vniow
Jan 30, 2006, 05:31 PM
Damn, missed the festivities this weekend due to the move to SF but now that I'm living here I'll be able to go to the parade on the 11th a lot easier. :D

bousozoku
Jan 30, 2006, 05:39 PM
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Also, unfortunately there are still bad feelings between Chinese nationalists and what happened to them as the result of Japanese 'imperialism' in the past. Just last year there were violent protests in China against/because of these past grievances about the Japanese and how this past is not taught to the youth of Japan. So I think bousozoku is wrong in part, because it's the young Chinese who were doing the protesting, not elderly victims.
...

I did mention that it was my experience. :p I've never been to China.

MUCKYFINGERS
Jan 30, 2006, 05:53 PM
In my experience (and hopefully this has faded), if you call a Chinese an Oriental, they will become enraged because Chinese call Japanese Orientals. Typically, Chinese have hated Japanese but hopefully, this has gone away as the older people have died. I haven't witnessed it for a long time.


And Japanese didn't hate Chinese?

The old word for Chinese in Japanese language literally meant VERMIN. The Japanese hated the Chinese so much for some reason... look at how many people they raped tortured and murdered in WW II and the Rape of Nanjing. You got to face the facts, I mean I love Japanese culture and my girlfriend is Japanese American, but Japanese people were sick mother****ers in war time, and they still haven't exactly apologized for what they've done.

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 30, 2006, 06:36 PM
In my experience (and hopefully this has faded), if you call a Chinese an Oriental, they will become enraged because Chinese call Japanese Orientals. Typically, Chinese have hated Japanese but hopefully, this has gone away as the older people have died. I haven't witnessed it for a long time.

Hatred can be long lasting in some areas of a country. Even by its younger citizens. For point of information; the civil war is still not done by some, that Germans and Japanese are still the enemy, and on and on it goes.

But such hatred generations later, at least here in the US IMO can be laid to rest to what the youth are exposed to by their parents. I am guessing such hatred in China is by the government and their parents.

It has been said that history is written by the victor. And in some cases even by the loser. Sorry if I go political here, but I at least hope that we here in the US have access to information in order to make our informed opinions. As long as we have an open mind.

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 30, 2006, 06:42 PM
And Japanese didn't hate Chinese?

The old word for Chinese in Japanese language literally meant VERMIN. The Japanese hated the Chinese so much for some reason... look at how many people they raped tortured and murdered in WW II and the Rape of Nanjing. You got to face the facts, I mean I love Japanese culture and my girlfriend is Japanese American, but Japanese people were sick mother****ers in war time, and they still haven't exactly apologized for what they've done.

Rules of war differ for each culture. As repulsive the actions of the Japanese were during WWII, we need to look deeper at the historical and social context. I am not forgiving their actions, in no way. But I assume that someone here can put those actions into some context of the social/political/military of Japan at that time.

Remember slavery was condoned here in the US for a long time.

bousozoku
Jan 30, 2006, 06:57 PM
I offered the original information as a quick suggestion. I didn't mean to make this into a political thread. Let's not do that, please, especially since this is about the opposite.

I'm sure that we can dig up hate about every group on the planet. It's not necessary.

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 30, 2006, 08:03 PM
I offered the original information as a quick suggestion. I didn't mean to make this into a political thread. Let's not do that, please, especially since this is about the opposite.

I'm sure that we can dig up hate about every group on the planet. It's not necessary.


Thank you, and I apologize. This thread has been informative. But sometimes when being informative, we do step on toes.

BTW: Based on what a co-worker told me, I will not be doing house cleaning ever again. For I was told the custom is not to do house cleaning on the first day of the Lunar New Year. So as to not sweep out the "good" with the "bad".

If that is the case, I may never clean again! :eek: :D

bousozoku
Jan 30, 2006, 08:21 PM
Thank you, and I apologize. This thread has been informative. But sometimes when being informative, we do step on toes.

BTW: Based on what a co-worker told me, I will not be doing house cleaning ever again. For I was told the custom is not to do house cleaning on the first day of the Lunar New Year. So as to not sweep out the "good" with the "bad".

If that is the case, I may never clean again! :eek: :D

He's right. We should take care to not lose what good we all have.

I'm the one who should apologise. Had I kept the extra information in a PM instead of being there for all to see, this never would have happened. I am obviously evil--or haphazard.

applekid
Jan 30, 2006, 08:33 PM
While we're on the topic of Asian culture... I was wondering, is there a special meaning, term, or some nice article that defines or explains the 12 zodiacs applied to the days? For example, today is a sheep day. My grandma is devout Buddhist and of Asian culture, so she told me a long time ago how each zodiac can often have an effect on one's luck, karma, fortune, etc. (whatever you want to call it) for that day depending on what year they were born and what their zodiac is. For example, being born in 1988 and being a dragon, I'm supposed to be a little more careful on days of the snake, pig, and monkey. I know on some Korean calendars, they had a little print in Chinese or even a picture of the animal for each day. And just like our solar 7-day week, the days cycle through the 12 zodiacs.

Anybody know what I'm talking about? :confused:

(Excuse my lack of knowledge about my own culture :o )

obeygiant
Jan 30, 2006, 08:45 PM
in the year of the dog
my resolution is...


to eat more dog.

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 30, 2006, 08:49 PM
He's right. We should take care to not lose what good we all have.

I'm the one who should apologise. Had I kept the extra information in a PM instead of being there for all to see, this never would have happened. I am obviously evil--or haphazard.

Please don't feel that way!

This thread is one of the reasons I am happy to be a contributer here. For even when we devolve in to political stuff, I learn about the world around me.

In some ways we need to let the "warts hang out" so that we can maybe gain a better acceptance of what makes this world go round.

obeygiant
Jan 30, 2006, 08:53 PM
hotties... moreplz

those chinese guys are so lucky

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/udaman/deliciousS/black-skirt.jpg

raise your hand if you want me.

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 30, 2006, 08:56 PM
While we're on the topic of Asian culture... I was wondering, is there a special meaning, term, or some nice article that defines or explains the 12 zodiacs applied to the days? For example, today is a sheep day. My grandma is devout Buddhist and of Asian culture, so she told me a long time ago how each zodiac can often have an effect on one's luck, karma, fortune, etc. (whatever you want to call it) for that day depending on what year they were born and what their zodiac is. For example, being born in 1988 and being a dragon, I'm supposed to be a little more careful on days of the snake, pig, and monkey. I know on some Korean calendars, they had a little print in Chinese or even a picture of the animal for each day. And just like our solar 7-day week, the days cycle through the 12 zodiacs.

Anybody know what I'm talking about? :confused:

(Excuse my lack of knowledge about my own culture :o )

Man, this is the stuff I was talking about!

Not that I allow my life to be ruled by the zodiac, or the Chinese calendar - I do see similarities in those that I deal with.

Just realized that I am part of the year of the Dog!!!!!:) Happy New Year to me!:)

My ex was the year of the Tiger. In basic ways we both fit the descriptions. But it would have been nice to know when best to deal with our "issues".

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 30, 2006, 08:57 PM
hotties... moreplz

those chinese guys are so lucky

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/udaman/deliciousS/black-skirt.jpg

raise your hand if you want me.

I am so tempted to ask about a "sibling".....:D

bousozoku
Jan 30, 2006, 09:00 PM
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Anybody know what I'm talking about? :confused:

(Excuse my lack of knowledge about my own culture :o )

This is all I've ever seen:

日 -- Sunday
月 -- Monday
火 -- Tuesday
水 -- Wednesday
木 -- Thursday
金 -- Friday
土 -- Saturday

devilot
Jan 30, 2006, 09:07 PM
This is all I've ever seen:

日 -- Sunday
月 -- Monday
火 -- Tuesday
水 -- Wednesday
木 -- Thursday
金 -- Friday
土 -- SaturdayWow. I've never seen that. I can read all the characters but I don't know how to translate the first one. I'm sure someone who knows more can/will correct me, but Monday's is moon, Tuesday is fire, Wednesday is water, Thursday is wood, Friday is gold, and Saturday is dirt/earth.

But what is that supposed to mean? :confused:

Abstract
Jan 30, 2006, 09:24 PM
No, I also have no idea what Chip is talking about, and I don't know what Applekid is referring to.

And as for the character for Sunday, that's the character that refers to the "Sun." It also means "day." And no, 日日 doesn't mean "Sunday." :p

The character for Monday means "moon", but also means "month."


And about that photo of the girls, they must be Taiwanese, because Taiwanese girls are quite well known for being hot. ;)

angelneo
Jan 30, 2006, 09:36 PM
Wow. I've never seen that. I can read all the characters but I don't know how to translate the first one. I'm sure someone who knows more can/will correct me, but Monday's is moon, Tuesday is fire, Wednesday is water, Thursday is wood, Friday is gold, and Saturday is dirt/earth.

But what is that supposed to mean? :confused:
Well, in Chinese, especially in fengshui, they have the five elements which are 金, 木, 水, 火, 土 as comparable to perhaps the four elements (earth, fire, water, air) in western culture. and in chinese zodiac, depending on the day you are born, you can be a fire tiger, or a earth dragon so on.

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 30, 2006, 09:49 PM
No, I also have no idea what Chip is talking about, and I don't know what Applekid is referring to.

On the Chinese "animal" calendar that many of us in the US are familiar with, you have the "year of" (based on the year of birth) and those "compatible" to that "year".

Applekid expanded on that, by saying that there are certain times of the year that one sign or "animal" is better for your life than another.

devilot
Jan 30, 2006, 10:00 PM
And as for the character for Sunday, that's the character that refers to the "Sun." It also means "day." And no, 日日 doesn't mean "Sunday." :p

The character for Monday means "moon", but also means "month."Hee. Silly me. I kept thinking 'sun' but then I just kept hearing, "tai yang." And I thought of um... like, 'calendar,' you know? "Err lee." :o I suck at this phoenetic typing/spelling. Sigh. And I dunno. I just up and brain farted for the 'month' usage of that character. ...in western culture. and in chinese zodiac, depending on the day you are born, you can be a fire tiger, or a earth dragon so on.So the actual day you were born? Hehe. Is there an easy way to figure out what day of the week a certain date was? :o

bousozoku
Jan 30, 2006, 10:01 PM
No, I also have no idea what Chip is talking about, and I don't know what Applekid is referring to.

And as for the character for Sunday, that's the character that refers to the "Sun." It also means "day." And no, 日日 doesn't mean "Sunday." :p

The character for Monday means "moon", but also means "month."


And about that photo of the girls, they must be Taiwanese, because Taiwanese girls are quite well known for being hot. ;)

Indeed, Taiwanese girls are hot, especially in summer. :cool:

Yes, of course 日日 doesn't mean Sunday. In Japanese at least, Sunday is 日曜日.


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Is there an easy way to figure out what day of the week a certain date was? :o

Yes, but I don't remember clearly how to calculate it. January 1st, 1900 was a Monday. I'll check to see if I have a copy of my code.

applekid
Jan 30, 2006, 10:12 PM
On the Chinese "animal" calendar that many of us in the US are familiar with, you have the "year of" (based on the year of birth) and those "compatible" to that "year".

Applekid expanded on that, by saying that there are certain times of the year that one sign or "animal" is better for your life than another.

No, not quite. :) I also know it each day also goes through the same 12 zodiac cycle which has an effect on one's luck for the day.

I guess it's just something I know. :D

Although I know what you're talking about, too. In fact, if you look at some famous marriages and breakups, you will see how incompatibilities can cause breakups or even something as fatal as death.

angelneo
Jan 30, 2006, 11:30 PM
So the actual day you were born? Hehe. Is there an easy way to figure out what day of the week a certain date was? :oI'm not sure as well, normally a consultation to a person skilled in fengshui is necessary. Traditional chinese sometimes, just as applekid mentioned, consulted these fengshui masters for compatibility issues, choosing of auspicious date for marriage, moving house so on

KKKL
Jan 31, 2006, 09:41 AM
Anyone read Chinese?

I can

angelneo
Jan 31, 2006, 01:04 PM
IIRC, the Singapore Chinese have a modified slang, kind of like a version of Pigeon English, just a Pigeon Chinese... I forget what it's called, but they only understand that style of modified language in Singapore.

Modified slang? I really don't think so. The only difference I can think of is the different accent we have compared to different countries, even for Chinese dialects, I don't think there is any difference.

bousozoku
Jan 31, 2006, 03:54 PM
Modified slang? I really don't think so. The only difference I can think of is the different accent we have compared to different countries, even for Chinese dialects, I don't think there is any difference.

The only thing I've really seen is a convergence of various dialects used as if it were one dialect, plus English, from Chinese in Singapore and Malaysia: Mantonkien, or whatever. :D

ke2000
Jan 31, 2006, 04:24 PM
the restaurant we wanted to try out was closed! :confused: <-- That's the first time I've seen a Chinese-owned business closed on a holiday.
That might implicate we are the hardest working nation in the world. Proud? Sad? Man, it kind of sucks working like a servant. Be honest.

vniow
Feb 13, 2006, 01:43 PM
The Chinese New Year's Parade was last Saturday here in SF which was a blast if it did seem to go on for a long time, some of the floats were awesome and the several dragons that were scattered throughout the streets were amazing, especially the HUGE one at the end that half of the crowd got caught under! :eek:

I don't have many pics since my camera died about 40 minutes into it, right before is started getting dark and more of the interesting stuff started travelling down Market but here ya go:

Some floats right before the parade started, they were right by the port-a-potties so I thought they were just a fancier version at first.

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Some cute little monkeys for sale from one of the several carts going through the crowd.

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The helicopter taping it from above.

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Me and my friend Crystal sitting down, waiting for it to start.

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The parade just started and I had to get a shot of the cute cheerleaders. :D

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The rest next post...

vniow
Feb 13, 2006, 01:48 PM
More cute cheerleaders. :D


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Starting to get dark, the banners are coming out.

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Lots of colourful flags.

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More flags...


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The end of the flags.

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And this is when my camera died. :( So while there were a lot more things happening after this, every time I would try to start it up again and take one it would die. So grr.
Crystal's lasted a lot longer and does better in the dark but its a one-time-use 35mm so I'll have to wait until those are developed to see them.

-Ani

Chip NoVaMac
Feb 14, 2006, 08:10 PM
Thanks for sharing....