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MacRumors
Feb 3, 2003, 01:41 AM
MacWhispers claims (http://www.envestco2.com/macwhispers/0000021.html) to have "exclusive" info on upcoming iPod updates.

They report that new 20 and 40GB drives will find there way into iPods (with FW800) as early as this week with the 5gb dropping off the list... but also give a broad time-range (Feb 4th - Feb 11th).

Their information appears to come from these PDFs (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/02/20030203032124.shtml) found on Toshiba's site.

This Spymac thread (http://www.spymac.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15716) may be some basis for speculation on impending updates.



MacFan25
Feb 3, 2003, 06:05 AM
I hope updates will come this week.

DannyZR2
Feb 3, 2003, 08:05 AM
If you notice, the 5GB iPod isn't available to purchase from the online apple store anymore.. (it's been this way for a week now but I haven'te seen anyone mention it).. and it's weird how people are still speculation about the 5gb ipod being eol'd.. as far as that goes.. .it has been... but they should be dropping prices for the 10gb and 20gb...

hope they use the new 20gb drive... and 40gb?? come on! this is ridiculous! think about powerbook/ibook users! for them to have 40gb of mp3's would be nuts! those laptops recently shipped with only 40gb of space .. now they have some 60gb for laptops, but could you really spare 40 of them for mp3s (to transfer toyour ipod?!?)

I"m guession apple would only use the 40gb (even 30gb for that matter) for use in a video enable ipod that has the wonderful video out port found ont he ibook and powerbook 12".. (size of a headphone jack and i believe doubles as a headphone jack when not using the special apple video cable adapter...) i'd say it'd be pretty dern sweet if you ask...

yzedf
Feb 3, 2003, 08:14 AM
Many people complain of lack of hdd space, and excessive cost for the iPod. This no longer an exclusive market for Apple where they are by far the best thing going. There are more options now, and they all don't suck anymore. People are also noticing the price gap... bare drive is less than 1/2 the price of the pod...

Once again... compete or die.

Bear
Feb 3, 2003, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by yzedf
Many people complain of lack of hdd space, and excessive cost for the iPod. This no longer an exclusive market for Apple where they are by far the best thing going. There are more options now, and they all don't suck anymore. People are also noticing the price gap... bare drive is less than 1/2 the price of the pod...

Once again... compete or die.
My guess is Apple is letting the stock deplete before making new announcements. Remember Apple probably paid more for the original 20gig iPod drives than the new ones will cost.

As for compete or die, I've seen some of the competition and none of it is as small as the iPod. Although I will agree that price drops are now in order.

But what would the new line be? 10,20,40? or 20,30,40? or just 20 & 40? I'd say it depends on the prices of the various drives and also the availability of the old 10gig drive. If Apple keeps the price difference between the 20 & 40 to $100, then a 30 gig one would make no sense.

bobindashadows
Feb 3, 2003, 09:02 AM
I don't think that is where Apple will go... they should definitely keep the 5 GB! lower the price or something, trust me i have heard so many windows users justify buying a nomad jukebox instead of an iPod simply because of the price. And the nomad jukebox is so clunky and stupid... ew... the little thing you use to navigate menus doesn't accelerate, and if you hold it down for a while it will keep going after you let go. If you want to find a song quickly you have to use the search feature, since the menus take so long to scroll! A 5 GB iPod for 200 bucks would sell like hotcakes all over again.

yzedf
Feb 3, 2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Bear
But what would the new line be? 10,20,40? or 20,30,40? or just 20 & 40? I'd say it depends on the prices of the various drives and also the availability of the old 10gig drive. If Apple keeps the price difference between the 20 & 40 to $100, then a 30 gig one would make no sense.

My guess would have to be 10,20, and 30. Pricing of $299/$399/$499 if I had to guesstimate... :rolleyes:

A 5 gig for $229 or something would sure be nice though. But I doubt that very much :(

starlightmica
Feb 3, 2003, 09:04 AM
http://envestco2.com/macwhispers/

(aka current home of DV Forge (iPod stand), former home of MacTable, among other ventures)

sparks9
Feb 3, 2003, 09:52 AM
I was told that macwhispers.com has a very bad reputation regarding their prevous rumors...

But ofcourse I hope they are right this time! :D :p

sinbushar
Feb 3, 2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by DannyZR2

hope they use the new 20gb drive... and 40gb?? come on! this is ridiculous! think about powerbook/ibook users! for them to have 40gb of mp3's would be nuts! those laptops recently shipped with only 40gb of space .. now they have some 60gb for laptops, but could you really spare 40 of them for mp3s (to transfer toyour ipod?!?)


i'm not sure..but i'm 95% sure that the ipods can be used as external hard drives as well...so basically buying an ipod would double your hdd space if you had a laptop..just my 2˘...can't wait...for me mwny is what i'm waitin for b4 college...

toodle loo

sinbushar

rainman::|:|
Feb 3, 2003, 04:37 PM
BS. why would they impliment FW800 in these ipods... that right there tells me that they're making it up. They would have to redesign the iPod for something that gives no performance boost whatsoever.

no, no FW800 for the iPod. 30 or 40 gig iPods (along with a thinner 20 gig) will hit, that much is obvious to anyone...

:)
pnw

MacFan25
Feb 3, 2003, 06:07 PM
So does anyone think that we will see the updates tomorrow?

Rajj
Feb 3, 2003, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by sinbushar


i'm not sure..but i'm 95% sure that the ipods can be used as external hard drives as well...so basically buying an ipod would double your hdd space if you had a laptop..just my 2˘...can't wait...for me mwny is what i'm waitin for b4 college...

toodle loo

sinbushar
Yes, you can defiantly use the iPod as an external HDD also (Because I do!!!).

I don’t see the 40GB HDD hitting the iPod anytime soon……they just released it, and therefore it has no track record!!

melchior
Feb 3, 2003, 06:47 PM
i don't think apple will release ipods tomorrow, as imacs are definetely set for release. apple seems to be trying a nom strategy, squeezing out new products as soon as the fanfare for the old one dies. hope it helps them.

as for guessing as to what exactly the nom ipods will be... the rumours are too sporse and contradictory and like macwhispers have all the credability of a talking toilet

yzedf
Feb 3, 2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by MacFan25
So does anyone think that we will see the updates tomorrow?

not likely :(

bennetsaysargh
Feb 4, 2003, 12:05 PM
iPod updates will at least be a tiny bit more because they will wait untill people are sort of bored with the new iMac fan-fare to release a new iPod
that's what iThink

Bunzi2k4
Feb 4, 2003, 03:13 PM
Are the Ipods that great? I think they're wwwaaaayyyyy too pricey... i found a USB 20 gig jukebox for 250... and a 5 gig ipod is like... same price... isn't that odd? 1 more thing... wouldn't it b soo much cooler if it came in different colors kinda like the old imacs?

MacFan25
Feb 4, 2003, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Bunzi2k4
Are the Ipods that great? I think they're wwwaaaayyyyy too pricey... i found a USB 20 gig jukebox for 250... and a 5 gig ipod is like... same price... isn't that odd? 1 more thing... wouldn't it b soo much cooler if it came in different colors kinda like the old imacs?

I don't have an iPod, but I hope to soon. But, I know someone who has one, and it really is very nice. I want an MP3 player, but I really haven't even considered looking at other brands, because it seems like, from what I have been hearing, that the iPod sets the standard for MP3 players, even though they are a little pricey.

As for the different colors, the only is, is that if one color doesn't sell very good, then Apple stores and re-sellers would have trouble getting rid of that color. But, then if another color sells very good, then they may not be able to keep up with the demands for that color.

shadowfax
Feb 4, 2003, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by paulwhannel
BS. why would they impliment FW800 in these ipods... that right there tells me that they're making it up. They would have to redesign the iPod for something that gives no performance boost whatsoever.

no, no FW800 for the iPod. 30 or 40 gig iPods (along with a thinner 20 gig) will hit, that much is obvious to anyone...

:)
pnw

i think we have discussed that having FW800 would be good for NOT slowing down anything else in a FW800 series, like if you had it at the end of a hard drive daisy chain. of course, this is a shaky argument, especially inasmuch as apple's current computers that have FW800 ALSO have FW400, but it must be considered, and hey, FW800 doesn't help for much of anything unless you are running some superfast hard drives (do they make 10000 RPM FW drives?)

i dunno, just a thought.

MacKenzie999
Feb 4, 2003, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Bunzi2k4
Are the Ipods that great?

I too was sceptical about iPod being a pretty damn expensive walkman, but by the time they released the 1st 10gb model I had managed talk myself into buying one anyway.

It is the single best thing I have ever bought and if I lost mine today I would not hesitate to proceed directly to the Apple store and say, "thank you sir may I have another?"

shadowfax
Feb 4, 2003, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by MacKenzie999


I too was sceptical about iPod being a pretty damn expensive walkman, but by the time they released the 1st 10gb model I had managed talk myself into buying one anyway.

It is the single best thing I have ever bought and if I lost mine today I would not hesitate to proceed directly to the Apple store and say, "thank you sir may I have another?"

will you upgrade to a 40?

MacKenzie999
Feb 4, 2003, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Shadowfax


will you upgrade to a 40?

Probably. My 10 is nearing capacity and I have several coworkers waiting to begin a bidding war on my current ipod once I upgrade. It'll still be awhile before I need more space but might as well get max. value for the one I have to sell.

shadowfax
Feb 4, 2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by MacKenzie999


Probably. My 10 is nearing capacity and I have several coworkers waiting to begin a bidding war on my current ipod once I upgrade. It'll still be awhile before I need more space but might as well get max. value for the one I have to sell.

i want it! i just have 8 GB of music now, lol. and i paid for (or my family did) most of those songs, lol. that's saying a lot for a teenager, lol.

chazmox
Feb 5, 2003, 12:05 AM
I have a Nomad Jukebox ( 6GB ) and a iPod 10 GB. I use the iPod and I don't use the Nomad and I'm selling it on eBay.

That should be 'nuff said.

That being said, besides the obvious size and capacity difference, there are several reasons I prefer the iPod over the Nomad.

1.) The Nomad's interface is clunky - it is difficult to save playlists - it reacts very slowly even to volume changes ( so slowly I have to slow down of we will chase each other ).

2.) The Nomad eats batteries.

3.) USB interface ( although the new ones fix that ).

The iPod is just a more solidly built product ( it feels like one piece of lexan ) and the interface is just amazingly intuitive and reactive.

The cost thing ( here and with other Apple stuff ) just bugs me. I hate paying for a product that has been made so cheaply that it doesn't work. I would rather pay more and get something someone thought about and made a quality product. Cheap can be very expensive ( free is usually even more so )!

LoveliestofMen
Feb 5, 2003, 01:09 PM
If you want to see exactly what technology should be in the new iPods (forget all this video, color LCD crap), check out this:

http://news.com.com/2014-1089-0.html?tag=vid#

This thing looks about the same size as an iPod, roughly the same capacity, but has an FM Tuner and broadcaster, allowing me to play my iPod over my car or home stereo, no additional equipment needed. Apple has to match this or loose market share.

MacKenzie999
Feb 5, 2003, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by LoveliestofMen
but has an FM Tuner and broadcaster

Is the fm broadcaster any good? There are several 3rd party fm broadcasters for iPod which are not that great.

pncc
Feb 5, 2003, 05:21 PM
Check out this link from Sony Japan:

http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PGX/whats/index.html

I don't read Japanese, but it looks like a WIRELESS iPod!! OK, I know it isn't really, it seems to be a WiFi enabled hard drive, but the concept is there.

Imagine Apple adding Airport and Bluetooth to an iPod?wouldn't that be just awesome!!

Tack on an FM transmitter and you have a PERFECT digital lifestyle device. If Apple doesn't do it, a Griffin tech iTrip will do.

NO Wires needed AT ALL except to recharge it.

It can be done, question is will Apple do it?

Goblin2099
Feb 5, 2003, 07:33 PM
Thought you guys might appreciate this...

http://www.spymac.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=14696

melchior
Feb 5, 2003, 07:53 PM
RE:> The Sony iPod

it's twice the meght of the iPod, i already have a hard time coping with the size and weight oy iPod after 10 years of MD

Toby O Notoby
Feb 5, 2003, 08:52 PM
Hey guys, been lurking here for about four months, but haven't had much to say until now.

Anyway, it's not an iPod but rather a 20gb WiFi enabled hard drive. Pretty neat idea, as it allows you to wirelessly turn any computer into your computer, or even allows many people to work on the same "computer" at once. (For example, four people working on one presentation with all changes saved on one source.)

Huh. First post. Feeling all fuzzy inside...

MacKenzie999
Feb 6, 2003, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by melchior
i already have a hard time coping with the size and weight oy iPod after 10 years of MD

I don't mean to flame, but all I can say is...wow.

Falleron
Feb 6, 2003, 02:34 PM
I will buy a 20gb iPod when this model become the middle configuration + when the price is a little lower. I can see that I would use it a lot (mostly as a mp3 player and not as a hard disk). I only have 1 mac with a firewire port. :(

iwantanewmac
Feb 7, 2003, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Bunzi2k4
Are the Ipods that great? I think they're wwwaaaayyyyy too pricey... i found a USB 20 gig jukebox for 250... and a 5 gig ipod is like... same price... isn't that odd? 1 more thing... wouldn't it b soo much cooler if it came in different colors kinda like the old imacs?

Yeah...you go ahead and buy it and then transfer 20 Gigs of music over USB. LOL
Happy holidays.

vanillamike
Feb 7, 2003, 01:18 PM
So is there going to be an iPod revision on Tuesday (Feb 11)?

The iPod rumors seem to have died off since it wasn't released last Tuseday with the iMac release. Anyone have a good solid inside track on when the revision is coming?

Mike

Anne
Feb 7, 2003, 03:49 PM
I don't know of any furhter rumors (I'm a consumer not a producer of rumors), but I'm still waiting on it. I think that people are tired of speculating, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're taking back their speculations from last week.

I know that I'll be checking out apple.com first thing tuesday morning, credit card in hand. I only hope that I get to use it! (I want an ipod, but don't necessarily need one at the moment, so I'm willing to wait for an update or at least a price drop.)

astrowill
Feb 7, 2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by MacKenzie999


I don't mean to flame, but all I can say is...wow.

I believe MD stands for muscular dystrophy...

melchior
Feb 7, 2003, 06:17 PM
I believe MD stands for muscular dystrophy...

haha. that's good! really good. hehe

"i've had MD for 10 years and now i can't even lift an ipod" =)

astrowill
Feb 7, 2003, 06:48 PM
LOL, oops! What's MD then?

melchior
Feb 7, 2003, 06:52 PM
are you serious? sorry, i still think it was a joke and it was terribly funny one at that.

MD == MiniDisc

my latest md player is 81.9 x 72.2 x 9.9mm and about 55g (including disc) of course it is not the same as an ipod (removeable media, albeit reasonbly small) but that doesn't mean i don't hove reservations about the ipod...

FyreFrog
Feb 9, 2003, 09:35 AM
I was visiting my schools apple education site and found a "New Item" Sticker on the IPod .....i never saw it there before.. and nothing is new about the item there that i noticed... maybe they are gettin prepared for something :) http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/EducationIndividualCustom?qprm=21040&type=higherEd
but when i went to another edu school site there was no sticker... maybe a mistake.....? hmmmm:)

vanillamike
Feb 9, 2003, 11:08 AM
Hey there :)

Regarding the "new" sticker in your education store I don't think it means anything really. The regular online store at apple.ca has had the "new" sticker on the iPods ever since the last revision when the 20GB was introduced. I think the US store is the only site where they keep close track on those little green stickers.

Mike

P.S. I sure hope those new slim 20GBs hit the streets on Tuesday.

Bear
Feb 9, 2003, 11:10 AM
Half the Apple Special Stores probably still have the "New" spalsh on the iPod. They forgot to point to the current iPod splash when they updated some of the special stores.

Falleron
Feb 9, 2003, 01:57 PM
The shipping time for the iPod here in the UK has increased to about 7 days now. Plus, the 5Gb version is no longer available either. I think it is pretty definate that an update is going to be with us soon.

barnaclebarnes
Feb 18, 2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Shadowfax
will you upgrade to a 40?

I will definately upgrade to a 40GB from my 20. I have over 200 CD's which I have purchased over the last few years. 20Gb is only just enough to hold them. I want expansion so I can hold the CD's I will be buying in the next few years. It is amazing how your music listening changes after getting an iPod. Old tracks that you never used to listen to are suddenly put back into serivce.

One of the best purchases I have made so far.

/b

Anne
Feb 27, 2003, 08:16 AM
Not that this really adds new info, but I thought I'd share anyway... I just looked at the apple store ipod page and the 5gb ipods are now listed as being unavailable due to significant demand. They used to be listed as unavailable to due to holiday demand, or something like that, right?

Of course this means nothing to those of us waiting to buy an ipod of any size in the $299 price range. But it does help me believe that the guys over at Apple haven't just forgotten that they sell this funny little product called the "ipod". Yay for meaningless webpage updates!!! :p

Giaguara
Feb 27, 2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Macrumors
MacWhispers claims (http://www.envestco2.com/macwhispers/0000021.html) to have "exclusive" info on upcoming iPod updates.

They report that new 20 and 40GB drives will find there way into iPods (with FW800) as early as this week with the 5gb dropping off the list... but also give a broad time-range (Feb 4th - Feb 11th).

Their information appears to come from these PDFs (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/02/20030203032124.shtml) found on Toshiba's site.

This Spymac thread (http://www.spymac.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15716) may be some basis for speculation on impending updates.

Yes. Right. I remember those rumors for the new ipods being out in MWSF.

And since that, every Tueday there have been these rumors.

Every zero rumor takes off a bit of the credibility.

Just wait for the next MWNY.


G.

I'm amazed I haven't seen any more rumors about the 80 G model by the way.

abdul
Mar 23, 2003, 06:51 AM
hello, can someone please tell me when the first ipod was released? this is very important. that is the 5gb mac only one.

much apptreciated

Snorlax
Mar 23, 2003, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Giaguara
Yes. Right. I remember those rumors for the new ipods being out in MWSF.

And since that, every Tueday there have been these rumors.

Every zero rumor takes off a bit of the credibility.

Just wait for the next MWNY.


G.

I'm amazed I haven't seen any more rumors about the 80 G model by the way.

When is MWNY?