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MacRumors
Apr 3, 2006, 09:14 PM
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Forbes reports (http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/afx/2006/04/03/afx2643961.html) that Asustek Computer Inc has secured an Apple Computer contract for "iBook notebook personal computers".

According to their sources, Apple has secured approximately 1.2 million units initially. The laptops are said to be powered by Intel processors and are equipped with 13.3" displays. Apple will reportedly start selling the new iBooks in June.

Apple has been rumored to introduce a 13" Intel iBook. One early report claimed (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/02/20060203203837.shtml) the new iBook would use a significantly different enclosure. Other speculation has suggested that the new Intel iBooks would be called MacBooks (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/03/20060315134308.shtml).

Peace
Apr 3, 2006, 09:15 PM
Glad Asustek is doing the board.Excellent outfit!

Frisco
Apr 3, 2006, 09:17 PM
Too long IMO, but I guess they want as many people as possible to buy the Powerbook. Oops I meant Macbook Pro :p

iGary
Apr 3, 2006, 09:17 PM
June? :confused:

excalibur313
Apr 3, 2006, 09:17 PM
Yeah that is really high class. Well I guess that frees up my afternoon tomorrow from obsessively checking macrumors. :(

X5-452
Apr 3, 2006, 09:18 PM
Boo, I was hoping they'd release them tomorrow.

VanMac
Apr 3, 2006, 09:19 PM
Tomorrow would be better for sure.

With all the rumors around the new iBook, this almost seems like old news....shipping in a couple of months.....blah.

lvnmacs
Apr 3, 2006, 09:19 PM
:D I am hoping for a new sleek look and brighter display! Will it be worth upgrading from my PPC PB? We'll have to see. Anyways, how exciting!

Manzana
Apr 3, 2006, 09:20 PM
so this is way before WWDC...

with they would announce soon

JtheLemur
Apr 3, 2006, 09:20 PM
June?! Well they can almost forget about most non-public school's buying seasons. Darn, and I was going to try to hold out, too...

pavetheforest
Apr 3, 2006, 09:23 PM
if they do start in june, first off i'm going to cry for a very long time, starting tomorrow if nothing happens, maybe a week of whining and complaining....and then when i'm out of jokes about steve jobs, i'll start collecting pennies for the macBook Pro

MacGuy88
Apr 3, 2006, 09:24 PM
wonder if they will come with built in iSights... i remember reading a review about MacBook Pro talking about how all the government people couldn't get them because of the iSight.

miloblithe
Apr 3, 2006, 09:24 PM
June does seem pretty late. What about the rest of the portable lineup? Will there be a small pro machine? Another 17" machine? When might those come out?

rhsgolfer33
Apr 3, 2006, 09:25 PM
June?! Well they can almost forget about most non-public school's buying seasons. Darn, and I was going to try to hold out, too...

How did they miss the buying season? Most private colleges and high schools get out in May/June as do most public schools. They tend to go back to school at the begining or end of August. If they're shipping in June then its almost perfect timing.

I'm definetly excited about this, If they have one with a dedicated video card and front row Im all over it.

MacTT
Apr 3, 2006, 09:26 PM
Oh wow, June. I really want an ibook. :D

EricNau
Apr 3, 2006, 09:27 PM
June seems too late.
Many High School Seniors receive laptops as graduation gifts (to prepare for college), but June will be too late for that.

Should be early May at the latest IMHO.

Demon Hunter
Apr 3, 2006, 09:27 PM
The article says the LCDs are being delivered in April. So, couldn't they be announced sooner than June?

You know how Steve takes 1-2 months to make his latest brainchild.

If the MacBook is shipping in August, that just sucks. I don't think I would wait.

cloudblood84
Apr 3, 2006, 09:29 PM
i guess i'm off to the apple store to pick up the mbp, because no way i can wait for abt ANOTHER 2 months:(

pavetheforest
Apr 3, 2006, 09:30 PM
that article LIES!!!!!!!!!! :p

mjstew33
Apr 3, 2006, 09:32 PM
They might update them tomorrow with PPC processors, as they really need an update - to carry over until Intel hits the streets in the iBook/MacBook.

twoodcc
Apr 3, 2006, 09:32 PM
dang, June seems too far off. all i can say is, they better release something tomorrow!!!:o

Detlev
Apr 3, 2006, 09:32 PM
Forbes reports that Asustek Computer Inc hass secured an Apple Computer contract for "iBook notebook personal computers".
Way to go Asustek! Counting your eggs before they hatch, huh? Guess you didn't read the contract? Those guys on the other line are from Apple legal.

I wonder how next week's headline will read?

EricNau
Apr 3, 2006, 09:34 PM
They might update them tomorrow with PPC processors, as they really need an update - to carry over until Intel hits the streets in the iBook/MacBook.
I hope you are joking. The next update we will see WILL have Intel processors.

cloudblood84
Apr 3, 2006, 09:34 PM
They might update them tomorrow with PPC processors, as they really need an update - to carry over until Intel hits the streets in the iBook/MacBook.

wait, there's an event speculated for tomorrow?

macpastor
Apr 3, 2006, 09:35 PM
I have a good friend who is the manager for an Apple store in Minnesota. I was speaking to him today about the upcoming MacBook (replacement for iBook) and he shared with me that from what he has heard from his sources in HQ, they will be combining the iBook 12", 14" and Powerbook 12" into one 13" WS unit. From there, my speculation is that one model would be intro priced with a core solo, while the upgraded model would have the SD, more memory, bigger hard drive and a Core Duo. My speculation, not his...

So, what does that do you for you? I for one would buy one if they would incase it in the aluminum structure. I have never cared for the white plastic look.

Josh396
Apr 3, 2006, 09:35 PM
I don't really think June is all that late. As for the argument that most soon to be college students get their computers for graduation gifts, just about everyone I know wait until a few weeks before school started to buy their computer. I'm just hoping they don't rush them out with problems. Also, by delaying maybe we can see some new hardware like 802.11n wireless and possibly some low power Intel chips (I'm sure they're already available, but in what quantity?).

WildCowboy
Apr 3, 2006, 09:36 PM
I have a good friend who is the manager for an Apple store in Minnesota. I was speaking to him today about the upcoming MacBook (replacement for iBook) and he shared with me that from what he has heard from his sources in HQ, they will be combining the iBook 12", 14" and Powerbook 12" into one 13" WS unit. From there, my speculation is that one model would be intro priced with a core solo, while the upgraded model would have the SD, more memory, bigger hard drive and a Core Duo. My speculation, not his...

So what you're saying is he's reading the same rumor sites the rest of us are...

mackeeper
Apr 3, 2006, 09:36 PM
Can I get a mockup?

pavetheforest
Apr 3, 2006, 09:38 PM
wait, there's an event speculated for tomorrow?

oh yeah there is:cool:

macpastor
Apr 3, 2006, 09:41 PM
So what you're saying is he's reading the same rumor sites the rest of us are...

No, I am not saying that... He is an Apple relic, and has knowledge that, based on past experience with his suggestions of future products, has been accurate... if you put it all together.

Voch
Apr 3, 2006, 09:41 PM
This is a serious bummer if it's true. But it does tie in with the rumor (http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/02/21/intel_core_duo_price_cuts/) that predicts late-May price cuts on the higher-end Core Duo processors. Apple wants to milk the MacBook Pro cow. :(

I had trouble at a meeting this week fitting my 'ol TiBook on the crowded table. I was going to hold out for a less-wide MacBook...

MrJohnson
Apr 3, 2006, 09:42 PM
I don't really think June is all that late. As for the argument that most soon to be college students get their computers for graduation gifts, just about everyone I know wait until a few weeks before school started to buy their computer. I'm just hoping they don't rush them out with problems. Also, by delaying maybe we can see some new hardware like 802.11n wireless and possibly some low power Intel chips (I'm sure they're already available, but in what quantity?).


Well then you're hanging out with the minority, the ones who have a say in their computer. It's pretty well known that most kidos get computers as their graduation presents.

macpastor
Apr 3, 2006, 09:42 PM
oh yeah there is:cool:

Where did you get this... is this a hoax or real deal. I haven't seen this anywhere else

iShane
Apr 3, 2006, 09:42 PM
What's this?!? I want one now. :mad:

cloudblood84
Apr 3, 2006, 09:43 PM
oh yeah there is:cool:
geez how did i miss that?
:eek:

sweet, i hope that something ultraportable comes out, thats all i really care about at this point;)

muffinman
Apr 3, 2006, 09:43 PM
widescreen....sweet. i hope there's a 13.3 inch macbookpro.

MacRumorsReader
Apr 3, 2006, 09:44 PM
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Oh, I see you've fixed the spelling :D

hokullani
Apr 3, 2006, 09:44 PM
June seems too late.
Many High School Seniors receive laptops as graduation gifts (to prepare for college), but June will be too late for that.

Should be early May at the latest IMHO.


But many of them graduate in the beginning of june so they are not missing the season. it would be better if they came out with it in may so that everyone would get really into it but maybe thats just their fault

powermac_daddy
Apr 3, 2006, 09:45 PM
i would be the replacement for the 12" powerbook. how is that?

the powermac prototype is pretty fun. new design.

time to bang

pavetheforest
Apr 3, 2006, 09:45 PM
Oh, I see you've fixed the spelling :D

hahah, yep

MacRumorsReader
Apr 3, 2006, 09:46 PM
hahah, yep

And you got much better "grab" this go around, too.

But, I'm like everyone else: I want an event tomorrow, also.

cloudblood84
Apr 3, 2006, 09:49 PM
;) ahh yeah im obviously slow right now:o

pavetheforest
Apr 3, 2006, 09:49 PM
And you got much better "grab" this go around, too.

But, I'm like everyone else: I want an event tomorrow, also.

yeah definitly, its so hard not to want want want, when we have to wait wait wait...im pretty much set that tomorrow holds nothing, i have somewhat of a small shimmer of hope left, very small though.

pavetheforest
Apr 3, 2006, 09:51 PM
;) ahh yeah im obviously slow right now:o

haha, well it got you goin for a little while! blame steve jobs for the buzzkill! ! ! !:mad:

cloudblood84
Apr 3, 2006, 09:53 PM
haha, well it got you goin for a little while! blame steve jobs for the buzzkill! ! ! !:mad:

if i have to be stuck with this pc any longer im gonna hang myself

EricNau
Apr 3, 2006, 09:54 PM
But many of them graduate in the beginning of june so they are not missing the season. it would be better if they came out with it in may so that everyone would get really into it but maybe thats just their fault
Usually schools gets out in the beginning of June (at least in my area), so technically it could work, but most parents aren't going to wait until the last minute to buy a gift.

emaja
Apr 3, 2006, 09:54 PM
June seems too late.
Many High School Seniors receive laptops as graduation gifts (to prepare for college), but June will be too late for that.

No one I know buys at graduation. They all buy just before leaving.

June is fine for that since there will be long delivery times for a few weeks after the announcement which will shrink to the 2-3 business days in plenty of time for student entering college to have theirs BTO and delivered well before they need it for school in the fall.

BTW, who the heck "prepares" for college the summer after graduating? I spent the time at the beach and staying up late. I managed to do pretty well that freshman year also.

...parents aren't going to wait until the last minute to buy a gift.

You've never worked retail in the back to school season, have you? It is all about the last minute mad rush, trying to get the best deal until it is too late and gotta have it now.

1macker1
Apr 3, 2006, 09:54 PM
Plz have a DVI connection.

reidster
Apr 3, 2006, 09:56 PM
Give me something smaller tomorrow with a Core Duo in aluminum and I'm there.

nylon
Apr 3, 2006, 09:57 PM
I want a 13.3" Macbook Pro with all the features of the 15" version.

Voch
Apr 3, 2006, 09:59 PM
Give me something smaller tomorrow with a Core Duo in aluminum and I'm there.

Me too. Except that as a lap-based user I'm worried 'bout burning my legs off. I was holding out for plastic myself... :)

thejadedmonkey
Apr 3, 2006, 09:59 PM
Damn!

cloudblood84
Apr 3, 2006, 09:59 PM
Give me something smaller tomorrow with a Core Duo in aluminum and I'm there.

i second that

p0intblank
Apr 3, 2006, 10:01 PM
June... well that's no fun! :(

QCassidy352
Apr 3, 2006, 10:03 PM
I don't understand this at all.
1) the ibooks are 8 months old
2) intel chips are ready
3) intel chips can be fit in to very small enclosures already
4) apple should want to eliminate buyer confusion between PPC and intel and get everyone on intel ASAP

So what am I missing? Why on earth would they delay the ibooks another 2 months? :confused:

cloudblood84
Apr 3, 2006, 10:04 PM
I don't understand this at all.
1) the ibooks are 8 months old
2) intel chips are ready
3) intel chips can be fit in to very small enclosures already
4) apple should want to eliminate buyer confusion between PPC and intel and get everyone on intel ASAP

So what am I missing? Why on earth would they delay the ibooks another 2 months? :confused:

obviously they hate us:(

NYmacAttack
Apr 3, 2006, 10:08 PM
I sure hope they ship sooner than June :(

Flyinace2000
Apr 3, 2006, 10:09 PM
People are missing the point of the educational purchases. Its not the students that will miss the purchasing window, it is the education institutuins (you know the ones that spend tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars). Those orders take time to get done. There are budgets to get approved, purchase orders to get filled......lots of crap. So most schools have orders in about march and april, if not earlier.

ImAlwaysRight
Apr 3, 2006, 10:12 PM
Apple will reportedly start selling the new iBooks in June.
I'm hoping this ends up being one of those rumors that IS NOT TRUE! :mad:

/fingers crossed for Macbooks tomorrow, in aluminum enclosure, not plastic scratch-me-up white)

kahos
Apr 3, 2006, 10:15 PM
Where did you get this... is this a hoax or real deal. I haven't seen this anywhere else

Im pretty sure this is a hoax, otherwise it would be listed on the moscone center's website.:o
http://www.moscone.com/site/do/event/list

reidster
Apr 3, 2006, 10:24 PM
Im pretty sure this is a hoax, otherwise it would be listed on the moscone center's website.:o
http://www.moscone.com/site/do/event/list

Yeah noticed that myself... Especially when it shows that the North, South, and West buildings are booked for a Society for Experimental Biology conference/trade show until Wednesday. We can only hope it's a clever cover up... But really- would Apple try to cover up an event that they send invites out for?

QCassidy352
Apr 3, 2006, 10:26 PM
Im pretty sure this is a hoax, otherwise it would be listed on the moscone center's website.:o
http://www.moscone.com/site/do/event/list

haha of course it's a hoax. He just made it himself. (the fact that he misspelled something and then fixed it should be a clue...) Looks good though, doesn't it? :)

drb6
Apr 3, 2006, 10:27 PM
I don't understand this at all.
1) the ibooks are 8 months old
2) intel chips are ready
3) intel chips can be fit in to very small enclosures already
4) apple should want to eliminate buyer confusion between PPC and intel and get everyone on intel ASAP

So what am I missing? Why on earth would they delay the ibooks another 2 months? :confused:

Well there's a lot of information we don't have about whats happening inside Apple. They may have a timeline issue, design problems etc. I agree that releasing in June is a disadvantage for them....May is a good time for the edu market.

But you, me and everyone else at MR are missing quite a bit of information. All we can do is hope that this rumor is off and pray for macbooks next tuesday :D

Bubbasteve
Apr 3, 2006, 10:29 PM
I'm calling their bluff.... Late April Fool's

pavetheforest
Apr 3, 2006, 10:31 PM
haha of course it's a hoax. He just made it himself. (the fact that he misspelled something and then fixed it should be a clue...) Looks good though, doesn't it? :)

some other poster made the origional, i can spell....and i re-did the invite to model it after the MWSF one......i made it...so SORRY TO GET THOSE HOPES UP!:D
hahah

pavetheforest
Apr 3, 2006, 10:32 PM
so when the macBooks come out tomorrow, what time do you think? 12:00 am.......2:30 pm .....................??????? what does history show??!!

berkleeboy210
Apr 3, 2006, 10:37 PM
So this does rule out any possibilties of something being Released tomorrow?

VicMacs
Apr 3, 2006, 10:40 PM
I would not call it macbook... too confusing...

1984
Apr 3, 2006, 10:41 PM
People are missing the point of the educational purchases. Its not the students that will miss the purchasing window, it is the education institutuins (you know the ones that spend tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars). Those orders take time to get done. There are budgets to get approved, purchase orders to get filled......lots of crap. So most schools have orders in about march and april, if not earlier.

You hit the nail on the head. Everyone paying attention? Now I suppose a school buying 10,000 laptops might be privy to what Apple has planned for Intel iBooks/MacBooks and signed an NDA not to discuss it. Still, there may be a lot of schools in the market for 100 or even 1000 laptops yet not get the same treatment and therefore go for a Dell rather than the current PowerPC based iBook models.

iHeartTheApple
Apr 3, 2006, 10:46 PM
Hmm...The thing is even if the new MacBooks come *out* in June, we can probably expect to see a similar consumer response as was exhibited with the MBPs, in that there will be a significant waiting period before most people get their hands on one due to all the orders... Maybe early July at best? :o Am I completely off base? :confused: Let's hope this is not the case. Better yet, let's hope they come out tomorrow...along with an iTablet or iNewton! :rolleyes: ;)

MacMosher
Apr 3, 2006, 10:50 PM
Great to hear some more speculation on it however Im not pleased that its coming so late :(

Demon Hunter
Apr 3, 2006, 11:21 PM
I have a good friend who is the manager for an Apple store in Minnesota. I was speaking to him today about the upcoming MacBook (replacement for iBook) and he shared with me that from what he has heard from his sources in HQ, they will be combining the iBook 12", 14" and Powerbook 12" into one 13" WS unit. From there, my speculation is that one model would be intro priced with a core solo, while the upgraded model would have the SD, more memory, bigger hard drive and a Core Duo. My speculation, not his...

So, what does that do you for you? I for one would buy one if they would incase it in the aluminum structure. I have never cared for the white plastic look.

That's interesting because: (a) those comments are against policy and he could lose his job, (b) retail usually knows nothing about upcoming products, aside from stock, and (c) the District Manager is probably the only person with that information...

Etrain
Apr 3, 2006, 11:25 PM
Here is my prediction:

We have a 15" MBP with 2 models (1.83GHz and 2.0GHz). Soon we will see a MBP with a 17" & 19" or 20" screen but only available in 2.0GHz. Then we will see the 13.3" Mac Book replacing the iBook with the same aluminum case as the MBP but with a 1.67GHz chip. The current MBP 15" will be reduced to only available with 1.83GHz.

Mac Book 13.3" w/ 1.67
Mac Book Pro 15" w/ 1.83
Mac Book Pro 17", 19" or 20" w/ 2.0

My $.02 :D

technicolor
Apr 3, 2006, 11:29 PM
You hit the nail on the head. Everyone paying attention? Now I suppose a school buying 10,000 laptops might be privy to what Apple has planned for Intel iBooks/MacBooks and signed an NDA not to discuss it. Still, there may be a lot of schools in the market for 100 or even 1000 laptops yet not get the same treatment and therefore go for a Dell rather than the current PowerPC based iBook models.
Most schools arent trying to be test subjects on Rev A machines, that dont support their current software they've already spent a garillion dollars on.

Im sure schools arent caring about the new intel books or switching to PCs if they have been using Macs...they already have their software that they need to run.

Chef Medeski
Apr 3, 2006, 11:36 PM
Hmm...The thing is even if the new MacBooks come *out* in June, we can probably expect to see a similar consumer response as was exhibited with the MBPs, in that there will be a significant waiting period before most people get their hands on one due to all the orders... Maybe early July at best? :o Am I completely off base? :confused: Let's hope this is not the case. Better yet, let's hope they come out tomorrow...along with an iTablet or iNewton! :rolleyes: ;)
SHIP IN JUNE. With your timeframe, they should be out tomorrow at worst wait time and in a couple of weeks with best wait time.

generik
Apr 4, 2006, 12:13 AM
June?! Well they can almost forget about most non-public school's buying seasons. Darn, and I was going to try to hold out, too...

That's the whole idea, just so to sucker another cohort into buying their obsolete iBooks.

Once all those "OMG, I'm finally going to go to college! I NEED a laptop" crowd got their machines, Apple will *bam* release a superior line to create an upward pull on that new series, possibly prompting some to ebay their existing near new then obsolete 'books just to get the new ones.

Seen Apple done it before many times, if you think their release schedules are timed to cater to your needs then you are very sadly mistaken :D

iEric
Apr 4, 2006, 12:20 AM
the rumor of a new form factor is making me VERY excited!

iamfiremansam
Apr 4, 2006, 12:29 AM
The question is why on earth has Apple not even updated their website with a simple 30th anniversary picture or something? Because 30 years is a big achievement and why wouldn't they show that? So does that mean something is soon to come? Who knows.:confused:

EricNau
Apr 4, 2006, 12:30 AM
The question is why on earth has Apple not even updated their website with a simple 30th anniversary picture or something? Because 30 years is a big achievement and why wouldn't they show that? So does that mean something is soon to come? Who knows.:confused:
That's exactly what I was thinking.

Even if they are planning a special event, there is no reason not to post something on their website celebrating their 30th anniversary.

:confused:

aarongobo
Apr 4, 2006, 12:34 AM
In case you all didn't know, intel has not released a new low-power core duo processor that Gateway accidentaly leaked before Intel has announced it... my guess is that they will want their small laptop to be able to have a really, really good on time without recharging. They can only do this with Intel's new proc. which Apple needs them to announce! For more info on that proc., check out CNET and look for the newest video on a gateway laptop.

4God
Apr 4, 2006, 12:41 AM
June? :confused:

Yeah, really. What happened to 30th anniversary announcements? :confused:

monkeyandy
Apr 4, 2006, 01:27 AM
All I can say is bummer...I really hope it's sooner. Spose I'll just have to hang on for a little bit longer!
:(

Scarlet Fever
Apr 4, 2006, 01:30 AM
garr june?!? i need it now!
i was getting my hopes up when Apple did the MBP, but it turns out they were too expensive for the average student. Then april 1st, then april 4th... now june?
Isn't it coming close to the time when the slowest chip G4 chip in Apples line gets replaced by something with some power?
I hate to say this, but the current iBooks are craptacular. They aren't fast enough to last long. They will serve people out for one or two years, then they will be useless to a lot of people. i mean they have the same amount of VRAM as my 4 yr old iMac.
To keep a foot in the low-budget door, they need to revamp the iBooks. Im not asking for 256MB VRAM or even an iSight camera, but something cheap with a high-speed core solo or a low core duo (and separate VRAM - mac mini...:p)would be brilliant. It is a potentially huge market, which Apple could get a large portion of so easily. Please Apple, before june...

Shotglass
Apr 4, 2006, 01:47 AM
No no no, Apple, June is NOT an option. We want aluminum MacBooks, 13.3" inch widescreen, TOMORROW. My patience is running out.
[/menacing_voice]

sunfast
Apr 4, 2006, 02:07 AM
I want a 13.3" Macbook Pro with all the features of the 15" version.

Yes yes yes! But is it likely?

Stridder44
Apr 4, 2006, 02:14 AM
If i see nothing tomorrow then I will not get my hopes up until June.

Macnoviz
Apr 4, 2006, 02:51 AM
No no no, Apple, June is NOT an option. We want aluminum MacBooks, 13.3" inch widescreen, TOMORROW. My patience is running out.
[/menacing_voice]

-Am I the only one here who likes the white cover of the iBooks?
-The "contract" says iBook, I hope this means they will still call it iBook, Macbook is just stupid and confusing.:confused:

MacQuest
Apr 4, 2006, 02:52 AM
If Asustek is announcing that they have won a contract for new iBooks [MacBooks] in June, does that necessarily mean that there aren't any now?

What I mean is, maybe Asustek has won a contract over from an existing manufacturer for Rev. B MacBooks [or even just Rev. A's that they will take over manufacturing on at that time due to existing contractual agreements] that Apple will start selling at that time and made by them, but isn't it possible that the initial Rev. A's are already done and sitting on docks somewhere ready to ship upon tomorrow's announcement?

Something smells fishy to me. Almost like Asustek was given the "green light" to make this announcement by Apple, like to simultaneously throw the competition off AND surprise us existing and potential Mac users at the same time for their 30th anniversary... and maybe a little late April Fool's joke.

I mean come on, like Asustek is really gonna risk losing a newly acquired contract by potentially violating Apple's NDA after other companies have publicly felt the wrath of Jobs for this [anyone remember ATI's screw up in the early millenium?].

Anyways, just a thought.

But if not, then I hope we see widescreen 13.3" MacBook Pros tomorrow @ $1499. 17" MacBook Pros I don't care about so much. Those can wait for NAB '06 later this month.

Just gimme a widescreen 13.3" MacBook of somekind [consumer or pro line, Core Duo and dedicated graphics card with 128 VRAM [i]at least in the higher end $1299ish MacBook option] tomorrow Apple!

JoeKarame
Apr 4, 2006, 02:53 AM
Well, I held off buying a Macbook Pro last week when I was in New York, so I'll hold off a little while to see what happens. If June is the day, then Apple have probably won, and I'll buy a Pro, but iBooks have always been my preferred machine - I just think they're fantastic little machines, and feel significantly tougher than their higher-powered equivalents.

The waiting is killing me though...

iamfiremansam
Apr 4, 2006, 03:07 AM
I found this on forbes.com and could someone tell me what this means:

"Apple Computer will start selling the notebook PCs from June, while contract suppliers of panels to start deliveries from April."

What does this mean?

For the whole article click this link:
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/afx/2006/04/03/afx2643961.html

michaelconan
Apr 4, 2006, 03:40 AM
Now already 3 something am... is 4th of april, but until now i didn't c anything in apple's webpage tat shows they are celebrating the 30th anniversary...:( Still no Intel iBook, or Macbook, sad sad... but still hoping it will announce today... i have been waiting since january this year...:( Start losing the patience...

iamfiremansam
Apr 4, 2006, 03:45 AM
Now already 3 something am... is 4th of april, but until now i didn't c anything in apple's webpage tat shows they are celebrating the 30th anniversary...:( Still no Intel iBook, or Macbook, sad sad... but still hoping it will announce today... i have been waiting since january this year...:( Start losing the patience...

Yeah I think everyones been waiting the same amount of time. First it was November last year then January this year then march then april and now possibly JUNE!!:mad: How much more waiting?

Savage Henry
Apr 4, 2006, 03:54 AM
I found this on forbes.com and could someone tell me what this means:

"Apple Computer will start selling the notebook PCs from June, while contract suppliers of panels to start deliveries from April."

What does this mean?

For the whole article click this link:
http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/afx/2006/04/03/afx2643961.html


What this means is that you've not bothered to read any of the thread and have just used the same link that was in the very first post ....:rolleyes:

iamfiremansam
Apr 4, 2006, 03:58 AM
What this means is that you've not bothered to read any of the thread and have just used the same link that was in the very first post ....:rolleyes:

Ha! Silly me I didn't even realise until now. Actually I did read the whole thing but obviously missed that bit. I'll go bang my head on my Windows PC now!:o

MacQuest
Apr 4, 2006, 04:07 AM
Now already 3 something am... is 4th of april, but until now i didn't c anything in apple's webpage...

Apple tends to update their website at around 9am PST [West Coast, U.S.]. We've still got 7 hours to go until then.

Of course, I've seen updates occur at 8am, 10am and other times as well, so who knows?... besides SJ and the Web Master that will get fired if he/she leaks anything prematurely as has happened in the past ['03's G5 PowerMac "pre-mature speculation" as stated by SJ in his WWDC keynote the same morning that that leak occurred].

If anything is released or announced, expect the Apple Online Store to go down within the hour before they post the updated web pages.

Savage Henry
Apr 4, 2006, 04:13 AM
Ha! Silly me I didn't even realise until now. Actually I did read the whole thing but obviously missed that bit. I'll go bang my head on my Windows PC now!:o
No worries. I think I was just a bit tetchy from reading all the posts that are exclaiming wildly about how June is such a reprehensibly late shipment date is an offence to their mothers and grandmothers.

....... June is only 8 weeks away people ... we are only talking about laptops here, not emergency open heart surgery appointments..... sheesh !

Chris Bangle
Apr 4, 2006, 04:23 AM
Sadly I dont think there will be a website update because music stores alredy been updated and I dont see any movies on it......Remember when video content was launched....music store didnt get updated till the day of the laucnh which i think was a wednesday.

MIDI_EVIL
Apr 4, 2006, 04:26 AM
Apple haven't updated their website with a 30th Anniversary post because unless you follow Apple like us, you won't know the exact date anyway, which brings me to the conclusion something is about to be released... and Apple will release it as the 30 Anniversary product.

The exact date won't matter to the average Joe.

Rich.

MacQuest
Apr 4, 2006, 04:35 AM
Sadly I dont think there will be a website update because music stores alredy been updated and I dont see any movies on it...

That only kinda rules out the movie service launch for today... and I don't even think that the iTunes Music Store having been updated [i]really rules out the possibility of an Apple movie service being launched either as a sub-category within iTMS or even as an entirely new application[s] - iMovie Video Store and/or iDVD Movie Store [iDMS] - later today, or whenever.

Either way, this thread is entitled "Intel iBook in Shipping in June?", and I think most of us on this poorly titled thread are more concerned with Macintosh computer hardware releases than Apple's online movie service... although that and vPod's would be welcomed as well. ;)

It [i]has been pretty darn quiet on all Apple fronts though hasn't it?

Dare I say...

INCOMING APPLE PRODUCTS FROM ALL FRONTS!!! :eek: :D

EDIT:
HEY MODS!!!
Fix the title of this thread: "Intel iBook in Shipping in June?"

peanut48
Apr 4, 2006, 04:43 AM
i'm a pc user looking to switch to mac...i have been waiting for 6 months to switch as i need the new notebook for university in june 2006..I've become obsessed about switching..i have fallen in love with mac..I am really hoping that we get the new intel ibooks this week....i need to order mine this weekend coz it'll take couple of weeks for it to reach me as am getting it sent thru some1 in the US...i cant wait longer than this weekend to buy one if i want to have it on time for univ...I'm thinking about a 12" powerbook but hope the new ibooks will come out.....am sitting on pins and needles.....come on apple dont disappoint us....

michaelconan
Apr 4, 2006, 05:01 AM
That only kinda rules out the movie service launch for today... and I don't even think that the iTunes Music Store having been updated [i]really rules out the possibility of an Apple movie service being launched either as a sub-category within iTMS or even as an entirely new application[s] - iMovie Video Store and/or iDVD Movie Store [iDMS] - later today, or whenever.

Either way, this thread is entitled "Intel iBook in Shipping in June?", and I think most of us on this poorly titled thread are more concerned with Macintosh computer hardware releases than Apple's online movie service... although that and vPod's would be welcomed as well. ;)

It [i]has been pretty darn quiet on all Apple fronts though hasn't it?

Dare I say...

INCOMING APPLE PRODUCTS FROM ALL FRONTS!!! :eek: :D

EDIT:
HEY MODS!!!
Fix the title of this thread: "Intel iBook in Shipping in June?"

Agreed with your points, really too quiet for a 30th annivesary without anything happen...

mac-x
Apr 4, 2006, 06:06 AM
The thing i ask myself is, how old are u people posting this forum??
You only want to hear the good things, and photoshop invitations and actually start beleaving your own $!@#
I mean dont you have anything better to do?, find something else to do than obsessively checking rumorssites 24/7 who just copy 'news' from other rumors.
Let me tell you, i want a macbook just like you, but apple will notify if anything takes places. Dont go speculate and get your hopes up every day that tomorrow it will come. And apple doesn't delay it, it just wants to deliver a good product, they dont know (and care) what rumors say. And your whining every single day isnt going to help.
I know its a hard wait (i feel the pain), could be juni, april, may whatever.
And yeah i check rumors every once in a while, im excited too.
Thats what rumorsite is for, but if i count the messages people saying: "i want it now!! cry cry whine, @$# apple, i know whats going on, apple should release it tomorrow" every single day, i think to myself, your just !#$#@
Lets all think it will come in June, and talk about what it will be or whats on your mind telling everyone.
Please, please stop this date speculation until anywhere near june until official reports say so.
hope u understand....:rolleyes:

DimFlicker
Apr 4, 2006, 06:11 AM
How did they miss the buying season? Most private colleges and high schools get out in May/June as do most public schools. They tend to go back to school at the begining or end of August. If they're shipping in June then its almost perfect timing.

I'm definetly excited about this, If they have one with a dedicated video card and front row Im all over it.

Most schools, purchase their computers for the coming year in May. I'm thinking that perhaps this is Apples way of getting rid of old Ibook stock.

Anyways, Big fat BOO! I still want them to at least acknowledge their 30th. This sucks big time.

amateurmacfreak
Apr 4, 2006, 07:29 AM
If Apple has no 12".... it will be sad. :( I love those little computers, and I know many who also do.
Also, gosh, June.... that seems late. But I'm glad it's not goign to be infinity. :rolleyes: I wanted to see these thing back in January, long, long time ago.

amateurmacfreak
Apr 4, 2006, 07:30 AM
Anyways, Big fat BOO! I still want them to at least acknowledge their 30th. This sucks big time.
Urgh, agreed.

amateurmacfreak
Apr 4, 2006, 07:31 AM
The article said it was latest June. Why not today?
http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44398&d=1144118305
Oh, God. You make me so sad. :( :o

ImAlwaysRight
Apr 4, 2006, 07:33 AM
Aarrrrgh! Apple Store should have been down by now if updates were today! :( June sure is a loooooooooong way away. :mad:

ReanimationLP
Apr 4, 2006, 07:37 AM
The article said it was latest June. Why not today?
http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44398&d=1144118305

Fake. Its gotta be. Seriously. Not a single rumor site, engadget, nothing. Nothing is reporting any media event. And you know if it WAS real, they'd be all over it, counting down to it and doing live feeds and everything else.

peharri
Apr 4, 2006, 07:40 AM
I hope Apple do find a chance to celebrate their 30th Anniversary, but I'd be very disappointed if, as some of you hope, they do this by releasing an Intel version of the iBook.

The MacBook (I assume that's the name) is coming. It's not going to be announced until you can buy it, or close to when you can buy it. This isn't like the PowerBook G5 where there's some technical hurdle to overcome, cheap, small, Intel-based, notebooks are commonplace, if Apple had to they could rebadge the appropriate Thinkpad. So for crying out loud, the more obsessive need to stop acting like it's the end of the world that it's not been announced yet:

- It WILL be announced
- It would SUCK if it were announced as the "Birthday surprise"

I'd be happier seeing a revamped Apple II GS for Apple's birthday than I would see them announce a low-end laptop that merely replaces their existing low-end laptop and offers nothing spectacular.

(You know, the GS idea isn't a bad one. With technology being what it is, they could probably fit the entire system on a single chip, ramp up the speed quite a bit, possibly even ship it with a recompiled OS X (why not? The original GS came with a Mac OS clone), and sell it for under $500. Heh. Not going to happen, but it's amusing sometimes to think of the possibilities.

dernhelm
Apr 4, 2006, 08:06 AM
This enclosure thing is what most interests me. My original guess (quite a long time ago) is that the ibook and powerbook lines would converge into one line with extremely similar physical characteristics. Apple no longer needs form factor as a differentiator between the high and low end lines, they can use processor speeds, graphics cards, etc.

I wonder how right I was.

supremedesigner
Apr 4, 2006, 08:12 AM
Fake. Its gotta be. Seriously. Not a single rumor site, engadget, nothing. Nothing is reporting any media event. And you know if it WAS real, they'd be all over it, counting down to it and doing live feeds and everything else.

I think you're right, it's possibly fake. Apple usually "bold" the headline, not roman type. But that's me.

shooby
Apr 4, 2006, 08:15 AM
I think you're right, it's possibly fake. Apple usually "bold" the headline, not roman type. But that's me.

would you guys quit it with that invitation? somebody else on these forums just mocked it up: fixing the spelling error in the previous "fake".

so...yeah, stop speculating about it. it's fake.

Now, if they don't do anything today, I'd be fine. I mean, June is right around the corner, right after school ends. That gives me 2 more months to find someone to sell my PC to; there is no way I would be able to afford a new computer without selling this one anyways. If you're interested...get in contact ;)

mac-x
Apr 4, 2006, 08:17 AM
I don't. We like discussing what we hope for, yet soem people may get too excited, so they become dissapointed. BTW, it's June, not Juni (dansih n00b!):p


almost im dutch :p yeah im hoping on your 2nd config too, i want something like powerbook an advanced laptop, not pro (overkill for just school) not basicuser (still need to do design)
Well ill wait, well we have too :) its always worth the wait i hope.
And as said, june is like 8weeks from now, the weather is getter better, so get out and forget the mac for a month there's more in life than rumors ;)

and . Its gotta be. Seriously. Not a single rumor site, engadget, nothing. Nothing is reporting any media event. And you know if it WAS real, they'd be all over it, counting down to it and doing live feeds and everything else.

Fake are u sure? :rolleyes: maybe tomorrow because then its april the 5th
Meaning 5x6=30, so 6 new products on the 5th means the 30th an.
I know im F5ing the apple site all day
(sorry for that)

iGary
Apr 4, 2006, 08:21 AM
Well the store is still up. Back to work all of you. :D

xUKHCx
Apr 4, 2006, 08:23 AM
I know im F5ing the apple site all day
(sorry for that)

dont you mean command+r

mac-x
Apr 4, 2006, 08:28 AM
dont you mean command+r

Damn, oke i give up im using WINDOWS :o
Ill be command+r ing in late june ;)

ImAlwaysRight
Apr 4, 2006, 08:30 AM
No worries. I think I was just a bit tetchy from reading all the posts that are exclaiming wildly about how June is such a reprehensibly late shipment date is an offence to their mothers and grandmothers.

....... June is only 8 weeks away people ... we are only talking about laptops here, not emergency open heart surgery appointments..... sheesh !
Spoken like a true a) Windows user; b) Mac user not in the market for a 13" Mac laptop. :rolleyes:

On the other hand, if you've been waiting to purchase an Intel iBook for months ... were disappointed it didn't come in January as rumored ... bought a stop-gap G4 Mac Mini in January (like I did--performance is miserable) ... were hopeful for an April 4th release, which didn't happen ... then, yes, TWO MORE MONTHS or EIGHT WEEKS IS a looooooong way away! :(

Buschmaster
Apr 4, 2006, 08:50 AM
Why do you guys believe June so fast? Could be Christmas time before they're out. If I recall correctly he said they'd all be running Intel by the end of the year, right? Well, that's not for another 8 months. Gear up Intel iBook hopefuls, this could be a long wait.

ImAlwaysRight
Apr 4, 2006, 08:53 AM
This morning Appleinsider is reporting (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1645) in addition to this "June shipping" of Intel iBooks:

The Commercial Times also recently reported that Intel will cut Core Duo pricing ahead of a new 2.33GHz model in May.

Now, if Apple bumped the 15" MBP to 2.0 and 2.16 GHz with a 2.33 GHz option in May, and brought in the 13" Macbook at 1.67, 1.83 and 2.0 GHz core duos, then I *could* live with this delay. Would love to see:

13.3" widescreen Macbook with 1.67 core duo for $999 (combo drive, integrated graphics)
13.3" widescreen Macbook with 1.67 core duo for $1299 (superdrive, no integrated graphics)
13.3" widescreen Macbook Pro with 1.83 core duo for $1499 (superdrive, no integrated graphics, backlit keyboard) (2.0GHz option for $200 more)

Like the iMacs, Apple should keep the core solo out of the iBook line and only put in core duo. Save the core solo for the lowly Mac Mini. Also, with the above, Apple would need to bump the iMacs to 2.0/2.16 GHz at the same price points.

revfife
Apr 4, 2006, 09:07 AM
Agreeing with others, June is too late to be set in the Educational Market (a prime target for iBook/MacBooks). Published educational buying guides come out in May. I went to an "educational" Apple offering on campus last week and they are pushing Macbook Pros (too expensive for most students) or iMacs (no portability). There is a serious gap in Apple's offerings right now. Guess I will look at what HP has got (as much as it pains me to do so).

pavetheforest
Apr 4, 2006, 09:11 AM
what makes me wonder.............is that the apple site hasnt been updated in a while, well at least not since before the 1st...so something is coming, i think....may not be the iBook (macBook); but, something for sure

MacSA
Apr 4, 2006, 09:20 AM
Well the store is still up. Back to work all of you. :D

I thought Wednesday was the new Tuesday ??

Detlev
Apr 4, 2006, 09:51 AM
Yeah, really. What happened to 30th anniversary announcements? :confused:
Pay attention. PR doesn't mean advertising or new products for that matter. They took the time to put out enough PR to last another five years.

So what am I missing? Why on earth would they delay the ibooks another 2 months?
Because there have been several issues with the new laptops (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=1584). Because their last "event" was lousy. Because they have time now seeing that Microsoft's OS is delayed. Because a majority of developers still are not Universal. Because they just found a manufacturer to build them.

deadturtle
Apr 4, 2006, 10:10 AM
that my iBook (500,G3) lasts till June... the HardDrive is starting to sound like a chainsaw, and I've already had to rip the poor thing open once to replace the motherboard. Maybe it will hang in there till then, and, also fingers crossed they will be still sub grand laptops. Looking forward to being able to leave give my Dell back to my boss, and leave the Drone(as in noise, not automaton) at home! One light laptop instead of 2 heavish laptops. Apple you heard me, I want sub 5lb, sub grand, iBookedGoodness

ITR 81
Apr 4, 2006, 10:24 AM
June seems too late.
Many High School Seniors receive laptops as graduation gifts (to prepare for college), but June will be too late for that.

Should be early May at the latest IMHO.
You sure about that?
Most of the kids around here just get money or a car.
Computers tend to be a Christmas type gift around here or maybe a B-day gift.

I think when I graduated in 97' I got new car and enough money to buy a new computer...atleast $2k worth.


But then again most kids I know have their own laptop or PC or a Mac...and those with iPods all seem to want a Mac Mini or iBook.

galstaph
Apr 4, 2006, 10:54 AM
June is fine with me... keeps my ibook as leading edge;)
Maybe it'll be released on the 30th with a 30 day shipping time, just to honour the 30th anniversary

Or maybe Steve is reading what were writing and thinking we're the April Fools:D

bilbo--baggins
Apr 4, 2006, 11:08 AM
Even if Apple was going to ship Intel ibooks in June, I think everyone would benefit if they announced them now (and started taking pre-orders)

Benefits:
People undecided may choose MacBook Pro rather than wait
Schools can place their orders
People can save wasting time on rumour sites!

Disadvantages:
Who's going to buy an ibook G4

But who's going to buy an ibook G4 anyway????

SurfSpirit
Apr 4, 2006, 11:43 AM
Well, first sorry my english!

I am tired of waiting as many people out there, ya, if not june will be sptember, if not it will be January and so long. The truth is that Apple don't give much consideration on the medium consumers, students like me or people that just think 1999$ is too much for a computer are waiting for something more less expensive, smaller or lless heavy.

We need a Mac today and the only alternative in the mac world stills being the olddddd ibook wiith the old G4 processor that will be discontinued as fast as light, so wich is the interest in the iBook G4?

At least apple could start selling it with lower prices. The PC world has better options and definitely cheaper ones for this segment, the only bad thing is the Operating system, not the hardware, remember that now the hardware is mostly the same on Macs and PCs!

So if Mac OS X will boot in a PC notebook and I don´t have an INtel Ibook, I definitely will buy a cheaper PC. Even if would like to have an Apple deign Intel iBook,... but I just can't hold my life/necessities and studies for Apple to lately release it.

NewMacFan
Apr 4, 2006, 12:00 PM
Here's to hoping that this Asus deal is just a supply deal, and that the iBook will still come out sooner, with Asus just signing a deal to provide extended supply.

dongmin
Apr 4, 2006, 12:24 PM
I have a good friend who is the manager for an Apple store in Minnesota. I was speaking to him today about the upcoming MacBook (replacement for iBook) and he shared with me that from what he has heard from his sources in HQ, they will be combining the iBook 12", 14" and Powerbook 12" into one 13" WS unit. From there, my speculation is that one model would be intro priced with a core solo, while the upgraded model would have the SD, more memory, bigger hard drive and a Core Duo. My speculation, not his...This has been addressed, so I'll just say: retail don't know jack. As for consolidating the line into one 13" form factor, that too has been rumored to death. We already pretty much know the specs on these babies: see the Mac Mini. The only question is whether Apple will introduce a higher-end model with better graphics. The bottom end will be $999, most likely with the same specs as the $599 Mini; the dual core version should top out at $1299 ($1199 if we're lucky).

Hmm...The thing is even if the new MacBooks come *out* in June, we can probably expect to see a similar consumer response as was exhibited with the MBPs, in that there will be a significant waiting period before most people get their hands on one due to all the orders... Maybe early July at best? :o Am I completely off base? :confused: Let's hope this is not the case. Better yet, let's hope they come out tomorrow...along with an iTablet or iNewton! :rolleyes: ;)Or it's possible that they'll announce in May with shipping in June. Apple has had up to six weeks lead time on new products. If this thing is totally redesigned and has that instant gotta-have-it factor, they might start taking orders six weeks in advance.

In case you all didn't know, intel has not released a new low-power core duo processor that Gateway accidentaly leaked before Intel has announced it... my guess is that they will want their small laptop to be able to have a really, really good on time without recharging. They can only do this with Intel's new proc. which Apple needs them to announce! For more info on that proc., check out CNET and look for the newest video on a gateway laptop.There is already a long thread on this leak. It's nothing that exciting, really. The specs on that Gateway bites, hard. Apple WILL NOT downgrade the new MacBooks with a 1.0 and 1.2 ghz CPU. What we see in the Mini is what we will get in the new MacBooks. Period.

This morning Appleinsider is reporting (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1645) in addition to this "June shipping" of Intel iBooks:

The Commercial Times also recently reported that Intel will cut Core Duo pricing ahead of a new 2.33GHz model in May.

Now, if Apple bumped the 15" MBP to 2.0 and 2.16 GHz with a 2.33 GHz option in May, and brought in the 13" Macbook at 1.67, 1.83 and 2.0 GHz core duos, then I *could* live with this delay. Would love to see:

13.3" widescreen Macbook with 1.67 core duo for $999 (combo drive, integrated graphics)
13.3" widescreen Macbook with 1.67 core duo for $1299 (superdrive, no integrated graphics)
13.3" widescreen Macbook Pro with 1.83 core duo for $1499 (superdrive, no integrated graphics, backlit keyboard) (2.0GHz option for $200 more)

Like the iMacs, Apple should keep the core solo out of the iBook line and only put in core duo. Save the core solo for the lowly Mac Mini. Also, with the above, Apple would need to bump the iMacs to 2.0/2.16 GHz at the same price points.Sounds pretty reasonable, but you never know with Apple. They tend to under-deliver on what people on this forum expect/want.

unigolyn
Apr 4, 2006, 12:29 PM
So if Mac OS X will boot in a PC notebook and I don´t have an INtel Ibook, I definitely will buy a cheaper PC. Even if would like to have an Apple deign Intel iBook,... but I just can't hold my life/necessities and studies for Apple to lately release it.

According to that logic, your best bet would be to walk into an Apple store and steal a MacBook Pro. Seriously, what do you do with your iBook that a 1.25 GHz G4 isn't sufficient for? I personally use a Dual USB G3/700, and aside from being a bit sluggish with videos, it works just fine.

dialectician
Apr 4, 2006, 12:35 PM
As for consolidating the line into one 13" form factor, that too has been rumored to death. We already pretty much know the specs on these babies: see the Mac Mini

There is already a long thread on this leak. It's nothing that exciting, really. The specs on that Gateway bites, hard. Apple WILL NOT downgrade the new MacBooks with a 1.0 and 1.2 ghz CPU. What we see in the Mini is what we will get in the new MacBooks. Period.

But what about an ultraportable model? The 13" book will hardly be ultraportable. And yet many users have to buy PCs because they want something lighter and smaller than the current 12" ibook/pb models. Don't you think Apple will add a light model, now that they are no longer bound to the power processors?

ImAlwaysRight
Apr 4, 2006, 01:00 PM
what do you do with your iBook that a 1.25 GHz G4 isn't sufficient for? I personally use a Dual USB G3/700, and aside from being a bit sluggish with videos, it works just fine.
Your comment wasn't addressed to me, but I will answer. I have a Mac Mini 1.5GHz G4 with 1GB RAM, 64MB Radeon 9200 and 5400rpm 80GB HD at work. At home I have a G5 iMac 2.1GHz with 1.5GB RAM, 128MB X600 and 7200rpm 250GB HD.

Long story short, I recently created a Keynote presentation on my iMac G5. I used the "flash" transition between a few slides which were pictures of people taking photographs -- it was very effective and ultra-cool.

For playback at work I used my work computer, my Mac Mini. I copied the presentation over to the Mac Mini G4 and played it back. Low and behold the dissolve transition was substituted for the flash transition. :confused: What the heck?! So I opened the inspector to see why my transition was changed, and Keynote said that computer did not support the flash or burn transitions. So the slower computer ruined what would have been a cool effect, AND which would have played had I had a core duo Intel Macbook 13"!

And that's just one small example; I am sure there are others. Plus, I find the Mac Mini G4 to be kinda sluggish for day to day use, even though mine has the "silent upgraded" specs. I can imagine what an iBook with lesser specs would feel like.

No, they said 10:00 am. It's still only 9:57!
I caught your emoticon, but when I wrote Apple Store should have been down by now if updates were today! it was just after 7AM central time. In the past when Apple has released updated Macs, they take the Apple store offline before 7AM CT. "They" must be mistaking.

boncellis
Apr 4, 2006, 02:05 PM
I wonder how long I will be able to hold out with my Powerbook when I see the new iBook replacements. The iBook was the first Mac I ever owned, and I was almost sad the day I sold it (to upgrade). I don't think Apple will change the aesthetics of it too much, though I think a widescreen aspect would help.

I think June makes sense from a business standpoint, it just seems far away because the iBook is overdue for a refresh. At what point does the iBook G4 get EOL'd?

WSUkrissy
Apr 4, 2006, 02:50 PM
I have been following this intel iBook debaucle for a while now, waiting out some sort of announcement, much like the rest of you but here is the thing...I need some advice about a purchase really soon...

The Buyer's Guide says "don't buy - updates soon" but realistically (as far as you all know) what might that actually mean? I am a graduating college senior and wanted to purchase an iBook before going home for the summer but at this rate, I have less than a month left here and there is no word in sight. Is it really that foolish to buy an iBook @ this point like the guide suggests?

Any insight would be much apprecited.:)

ImAlwaysRight
Apr 4, 2006, 02:55 PM
So I'm digging up old articles on the Intel iBook. ThinkSecret thought they were going to be the first Intel Mac, released in January 2006. WRONG.

Appleinsider posted these paragraphs in an article titled PowerBook to gain iSight, iBook to go widescreen in 2006 (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1359), way back on Nov. 4, 2005:

Without getting into specific dates at this time, sources familiar with Apple's Macintosh hardware roadmap say the company is striving to unveil a completely redesigned set of Intel iBook laptops just in time for next year's K-12 educational buying season, which takes place around April or May. ...

Expected to make its debut even earlier than the new iBooks will be Apple's first Intel-based PowerBook, sources added. The new 15-inch PowerBook will carry over many of the design elements and styles that have made its aluminum PowerBooks so successful, but will be about 20- to 25-percent thinner than today's model.

The 12-inch PowerBook is no longer on Apple's roadmap -- as reported in August -- and the new Intel-based 17-inch model is slated for release several months later.


So far, Appleinsider seems to be SPOT ON. I'm betting we'll be seeing Intel iBooks (Macbooks) in April or May, so hopefully only have to sit tight a few more weeks instead of a couple months. You just KNOW Apple wants to get the Intel iBooks out for the EDU buying season.

Also note the words, "redesigned set of Intel iBook laptops." I have a good hunch we'll see 3 Macbook models, to fill the price gap in the $999 to $1499 range, maybe coming in at $999/$1299/$1499.

Demon Hunter
Apr 4, 2006, 03:50 PM
I don't. We like discussing what we hope for, yet soem people may get too excited, so they become dissapointed. BTW, it's June, not Juni (dansih n00b!):p

I hope for:
$999:
1.5 Ghz Core Solo
512 MB RAM (same as the other intel macs)
60 GB HDD, 5.400 rpm.
ComboDrive
Frontrow
Magsafe and thinner
13.3" Widescreen, 1280x768 (HD!:cool: )
Intel GMA/950 64 MB DDR

$1349:
1.67 Ghz Core Duoo
512 MB RAM (same as the other intel macs)
80 GB HDD, 5.400 rpm.
8x DVD+/-RW/DL SuperDrive
Frontrow
Magsafe and thinner
13.3" Widescreen, 1280x768 (HD!:cool: )
Ati Radeon X1300 64 MB DDR

Congrats... that's the most realistic thing I've heard all day.

As promising as the ThinkSecret report is, I don't know if I can wait until May. I'm about to say screw it and just get a 12-inch.

Woe unto us, why Apple WHY?

emate
Apr 4, 2006, 07:19 PM
I don't know how much experience all of you have purchasing for schools, but the educational buying season begins June 1. No public or private school budget has any cash come June. It's all gone, and every IT person in a school is waiting for July 1 when the new fiscal year begins. That's when the new budget becomes available to them. So, often times, orders are placed in June with a recognition that an invoice allows them 30 days to pay, and that means they can charge the purchase to the next fiscal year, while the vendor can book the sale for the April-June quarter. However, many school business managers frown on that practice, and will not allow a Purchase Order to be sent out until July 1.

If Apple ships a device by June 30, 2006, they will not miss the EDU purchasing season as long as they make announcements prior to June, then schools will simply play the game based on their own rules and their own philosphy. Some will order June 1 and work out a deal to get cheap iBook G4s to clean out the last inventory Apple has. They will say that it's better to have a tried and true device for cheap than a new untested device for normal Ed prices. Others will wait to order the new device because they are willing to go with the newest thing and they have the budget to do it.

Also, there isn't a school department in the nation that has signed an NDA to learn about future releases. I would wager that there isn't a K12 sales rep (or Apple store employee for that matter) who knows anymore than the readership of this web site.

ezekielrage_99
Apr 4, 2006, 07:39 PM
They might update them tomorrow with PPC processors, as they really need an update - to carry over until Intel hits the streets in the iBook/MacBook.

That is so true, the iBook is the saddest looking product in the Apple line. We have the MacBook Pro, iMac and Mac Mini all using the Intel Core Duo processors but the iBook looks like it has been left behind in a big way.

Really who would want to buy an iBook with a G4 when you know full well that the rest of the Apple line has Intels Inside. I think Apple is doing a disservice to themselves if they don't release the Intel iBooks within the next month or two.

pavetheforest
Apr 4, 2006, 09:01 PM
That is so true, the iBook is the saddest looking product in the Apple line. We have the MacBook Pro, iMac and Mac Mini all using the Intel Core Duo processors but the iBook looks like it has been left behind in a big way.

Really who would want to buy an iBook with a G4 when you know full well that the rest of the Apple line has Intels Inside. I think Apple is doing a disservice to themselves if they don't release the Intel iBooks within the next month or two.

right on

macpastor
Apr 4, 2006, 09:07 PM
That is so true, the iBook is the saddest looking product in the Apple line. We have the MacBook Pro, iMac and Mac Mini all using the Intel Core Duo processors but the iBook looks like it has been left behind in a big way.

Really who would want to buy an iBook with a G4 when you know full well that the rest of the Apple line has Intels Inside. I think Apple is doing a disservice to themselves if they don't release the Intel iBooks within the next month or two.

I agree with your statement. I wonder how many iBooks are in the inventory pipeline right now though. Could they be waitng to dilute inventory before they come out with a new product? If they had to much, they would probably have to offload them at a serious discount.

mrweirdo
Apr 4, 2006, 11:27 PM
arg Im starting to get realy flustered if i cant have a new ibook in my hands by june 30th Im out of luck and will be forced to go to a pc laptop. I'm going on vacation for the month of july and need a laptop computer during that time. Not having the cash flow needed for a macbook pro and not wanting a screen so large the 13.3 ibook seems to be the perfect choice. So looks like i have eather two options try and bumb a dell laptop off one of my friends for that month or purchase a pc laptop myself. $)#(*$#& DAMNIT!! I hate pcs :mad: LOL

iKucing
Apr 5, 2006, 12:45 AM
i read in http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/25/macbook-a-13-inch-widescreen-with-magsafe-and-isight/#comments that the intel iBooks will come in colours:

"8. The new Macbook will be similar to the one shown above but it will be thinner. It will come in several colours: lime green, sky blue, pearl white, jet black, and bold red. Instead of a single hinge to hold the screen this new one will be a dual hinge design.

what's taking apple so long to launch it :(

gunm
Apr 5, 2006, 02:35 AM
June seems about right, although I'm a bit disappointed Apple hasn't done anything in conjuction w/the 30th anniversary <yet>.

I'm still a least a year or two away from even considering getting a new laptop, so any new Mac(i)book news is just icing for me.

Although I'm really curious what kind of improvements the next rev of Mac Mini will have.

Derwood
Apr 5, 2006, 04:26 AM
I ain't gonna love it, I ain't even gonna wanna be seen with it but damn if them MacBooks don't show up soon then I'm going Linux and getting a cheap Dell :eek: ;)

Dell Inspiron 6400
Intel® CoreT Processor Duo T 2300 (1.66GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 667MHz FSB)
ATI MobilityT Radeon® X1300 128MB
1024MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
60GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (5400 RPM)

All for £729.

I'll give you £200 headroom Mr Jobs. So, the challenge is to give us a similar spec top-end MacBook (combined replacement for iBook & 12" Powerbook) for £929. I'd be well happy with that.

I'm slobbering for a MacBook like a hungry dog.

I'm so ashamed.

coffey7
Apr 5, 2006, 07:11 AM
If the solo version is $999.00 and the duo is near $1200.00 I would be so happy. That would be good pricing. Steve Jobs would jump 5 tax brackets. If the solo is over $1500 then I might fall on a sword.

mrweirdo
Apr 5, 2006, 11:15 AM
I ain't gonna love it, I ain't even gonna wanna be seen with it but damn if them MacBooks don't show up soon then I'm going Linux and getting a cheap Dell :eek: ;)

Dell Inspiron 6400
Intel® CoreT Processor Duo T 2300 (1.66GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 667MHz FSB)
ATI MobilityT Radeon® X1300 128MB
1024MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
60GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (5400 RPM)



well i would be carefull if u actualy did do that expecialy about geting a dell for runing linux on as alot of the hardware will be for windows only drivers and wont work corectly under linux. Infact alot of pc notebooks are like this. the best supported ones that i have found in my research when i was looking at geting a laptop runing linux was lenovo thinkpads.

Now give us MACBOOKS!!!! APPLE!!! ;)

tosoil
Apr 5, 2006, 06:57 PM
I don' think I can wait that long. Do you guys think that the current iBook 12" is worth $750 including tax? My school sells it at the price, and I am thinking of buying it instead of waiting forever.

bobber205
Apr 5, 2006, 08:19 PM
That's good for me. I could now not spend 2000 dollars for a dual XP and Mac OS X laptop if I get a MacBook.

Sweet.

ImAlwaysRight
Apr 6, 2006, 09:23 AM
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/images/6652_large.jpg

Has 13.3-inch WXGA widescreen display, color white, obviously no Macbook but just blur the image a little in your daydreams and you'll see a Macbook :rolleyes:

EDIT: I must be loosing it ... I just ordered a 13" laptop case in anticipation of my new 13" Macbook, but Apple hasn't even officially announced it will be selling a 13" Macbook. Somebody stop me!!!

Case Logic 13" Lightweight Laptop Case (http://www.caselogic.com/case_logic/13_lightweight_laptop_case/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=65873)

http://a1480.g.akamaitech.net/f/1480/124/4h/images.ebags.com/images/Products/65873_sq250.jpg

macpastor
Apr 6, 2006, 12:45 PM
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/images/6652_large.jpg

Has 13.3-inch WXGA widescreen display, color white, obviously no Macbook but just blur the image a little in your daydreams and you'll see a Macbook :rolleyes:

EDIT: I must be loosing it ... I just ordered a 13" laptop case in anticipation of my new 13" Macbook, but Apple hasn't even officially announced it will be selling a 13" Macbook. Somebody stop me!!!

Case Logic 13" Lightweight Laptop Case (http://www.caselogic.com/case_logic/13_lightweight_laptop_case/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=65873)

http://a1480.g.akamaitech.net/f/1480/124/4h/images.ebags.com/images/Products/65873_sq250.jpg

It is a prophetic move and will turn out to be accurate.

Macnoviz
Apr 6, 2006, 02:37 PM
It does seem that Apple hasn't really redesigned any Mac for the intel transition, which is quite remarkable for a company that is so about designing products. I do hope this changes when the Macbook comes out.

About the student issues: I will get money for my birthday, and buy a Macbook for college next year. A lot of other people are in a similar situation. We start in September, so I can wait till June, although my birthday is in May (though time ahead of me, plz stop me from buying a MBP). When you want the new iBook, you will wait, but people that are less interested won't, they'll see "better" PC laptops (makes me :mad: ) and buy those instead.
This, together with windows apps on Mac, could have been a breakthrough, but I fear it will miss a lot of people with this delay.:(

ImAlwaysRight
Apr 6, 2006, 04:03 PM
It does seem that Apple hasn't really redesigned any Mac for the intel transition, which is quite remarkable for a company that is so about designing products. I do hope this changes when the Macbook comes out.Why redesign something that is already fairly new and works well? Under PPC Apple had redesigned the iMac for the G5, and then made a slight revision with Rev. C adding iSight. Apple retained the exact same form factor for the Intel as Rev. C PPC. No sense redesigning a design as awesome as the current iMac.

If you read the rumors, they all say the Macbook is the one big redesign in the Apple lineup. That just make sense, since Apple is switching from a 12" 4:3 form factor to a 13.3" widescreen one. How much can you really redesign a laptop? I don't think much, other than move ports around, and make it a tenth of an inch thinner. You are limited to the screen size in a laptop for the size of the thing. I'm looking forward to the new Macbook. Pleeeeze, any day now!

hokullani
Apr 6, 2006, 11:32 PM
oh yeah there is:cool:


Weird!!!! i called that number and it says that it is a non working apple number!!! what does this mean!

digitldrew
Apr 7, 2006, 01:23 AM
has anyone been to store.apple.com today?

looks like they resorted the macbook pro in the middle of the page. not sure if the "ships in 24 hours" is new. and there is an error in the "macs with powerpc processors" title?

someones been playing with it. :eek:

Cedd
Apr 7, 2006, 03:40 AM
The UK store in unaltered but the US store page has been cacked up - the words are all over the place Intel Pro Cessors....etc.

v. poor:eek:

firestarter
Apr 7, 2006, 04:17 AM
It does seem that Apple hasn't really redesigned any Mac for the intel transition, which is quite remarkable for a company that is so about designing products. I do hope this changes when the Macbook comes out.

So far it seems that the aim is to convince Mac users that the Intel move is more about similarity than difference. What better way to do this than by releasing the exact same products which run the exact same software?

knackroller
Apr 7, 2006, 04:26 AM
Not so soon friends .... sit back and wait some more.

MikeAppz
Apr 7, 2006, 10:21 AM
I am going to be purchasing a new notebook and making the switch to Apple. I plan to purchase a new notebook when I return from abroad in mid-May. I am very interested in buying the new MacBook Pro, however I want to entertain the idea of a slightly smaller and more mobile notebook. Does anyone know if they are going to come out with MacBook Pro's in a smaller version? I don't want to sacrifice the power of a MacBook Pro and get a 12 inch PowerBook or IBook, but I would prefer something smaller than a 15 inch. Thanks for the help.

digitldrew
Apr 7, 2006, 12:43 PM
they fixed the US store.

Chris Bangle
Apr 7, 2006, 12:57 PM
I thinik you should all go to think secret very quicky

Surreal
Apr 7, 2006, 01:10 PM
I thinik you should all go to think secret very quicky
macbok and 17" in may?

good, now, i hope this adds up to an announcement at NAB. i can wait till then, i do not know if i am physically capable of keeping my money beyond that;) :D

RollTide
Apr 7, 2006, 01:51 PM
It's funny how TS reports 30-60 days, and MacRumors already said june like a week ago, both about the same(30-60 days would be june or late May):rolleyes:

Any more reports on the core duo maybe coming out less that $1299? I read another thread saying the price of the processors were to decrease soon, just throwing that out there