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blybug
Apr 5, 2006, 07:28 PM
This is great! Just got a MBP last week for work after convincing IT that it was OK since the new Mac had an Intel processor! And now it runs Windows!

So I installed a fresh copy of XP using BootCamp, worked flawlessly. I called the IT guys to get me enrolled in the domain on the corporate network, now my XP starts up requiring me to ctrl-alt-del to enter my user/pass. This was fine at work, since I have a PC USB keyboard and mouse hooked up. But when I got home tonight...

The ctrl-alt-del combination from the MBP keyboard does not work. I've tried multiple other combinations with the shift and fn key...nothing. Can't get past that initial screen. Of course tomorrow I'll be back at my desk with the PC keyboard again, but meanwhile, and for the future...

How the heck do you login using ctrl-alt-del on a MBP?? :confused:



asherman13
Apr 5, 2006, 07:31 PM
Remap your keys at work so that something will be guaranteed to work...or you could just get a PC keyboard for your house.

baby duck monge
Apr 5, 2006, 07:46 PM
How the heck do you login using ctrl-alt-del on a MBP?? :confused:

Is it not cntrl-command-delete?

And not delete like backspace, but like the one that is where page up and page down live.

helicine
Apr 5, 2006, 08:23 PM
Is it not cntrl-command-delete?

And not delete like backspace, but like the one that is where page up and page down live.

there is no DEL key on the MBP (or any Mac laptop for that matter) so your choices are either using an external keyboard or remapping keys

MS has a free key remapper utility in part of the 2003 Server Resource Kit Tools which you can get here (they work fine in WinXP):
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18c4790cffd&DisplayLang=en

I used the right Windows/Command/Apple key for my DEL key since it seemed like the most obvious "extra" key that I could spare

blybug
Apr 5, 2006, 08:40 PM
there is no DEL key on the MBP (or any Mac laptop for that matter) so your choices are either using an external keyboard or remapping keys

MS has a free key remapper utility in part of the 2003 Server Resource Kit Tools which you can get here (they work fine in WinXP):
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18c4790cffd&DisplayLang=en

I used the right Windows/Command/Apple key for my DEL key since it seemed like the most obvious "extra" key that I could spare

Thanks for the info.

So ctrl and alt are OK as-is? It's only the del that needs remapped?

helicine
Apr 5, 2006, 08:44 PM
Thanks for the info.

So ctrl and alt are OK as-is? It's only the del that needs remapped?

yes, ALT is also the Option key on the mac keyboard, only DEL needs to be remapped

asherman13
Apr 6, 2006, 06:43 PM
yes, ALT is also the Option key on the mac keyboard, only DEL needs to be remapped

Awesome; thanks.

My Rule of Working With Windows: Always Be Able To Do Ctrl-Alt-Del, because chances are that you'll need it!

blybug
Apr 6, 2006, 06:57 PM
Awesome; thanks.

My Rule of Working With Windows: Always Be Able To Do Ctrl-Alt-Del, because chances are that you'll need it!

This worked great, I decided to use my F12 as DEL because it felt more like doing the real 3-finger salute having one up in the upper right corner. Perfect!

helicine
Apr 6, 2006, 07:06 PM
This worked great, I decided to use my F12 as DEL because it felt more like doing the real 3-finger salute having one up in the upper right corner. Perfect!

that's what I initially did, but since I rarely use the windows key and can get by with just one, I figured the right windows key was a better alternative

dejo
Apr 6, 2006, 07:10 PM
What about trying ctrl-command-fn-delete? Since fn-delete operates like the delete (not backspace) key found on full keyboards...

helicine
Apr 6, 2006, 07:26 PM
What about trying ctrl-command-fn-delete? Since fn-delete operates like the delete (not backspace) key found on full keyboards...

nope, that doesn't work - the FN key doesn't do anything in windows

dejo
Apr 6, 2006, 08:36 PM
nope, that doesn't work - the FN key doesn't do anything in windows

Sorry. It was worth a shot, eh? Maybe send Apple some feedback at bootcamp@apple.com and ask them to get the fn key supported under XP (driver update?)

jerrito1
Apr 11, 2006, 11:41 AM
Try Ctrl+Shift+Esc, works for me

atszyman
Apr 11, 2006, 11:54 AM
Try Ctrl+Shift+Esc, works for me

That brings up the task manager when you are already in Windows, but does it work for login when ctrl+alt+delete is required?

jerrito1
Apr 11, 2006, 11:59 AM
That brings up the task manager when you are already in Windows, but does it work for login when ctrl+alt+delete is required?

its worth a try :D

greatdevourer
Apr 11, 2006, 12:02 PM
Does Command actually do anything in XP, btw?

mpw
Apr 11, 2006, 12:03 PM
...or you could just get a PC keyboard for your house.
Having a spare keyboard would be an idea but is not really practical when travelling with your MBP, what you need is this handy travel keyboard perfect for a MBP running MS Windows.

atszyman
Apr 11, 2006, 12:12 PM
What about trying ctrl-command-fn-delete? Since fn-delete operates like the delete (not backspace) key found on full keyboards...nope, that doesn't work - the FN key doesn't do anything in windows

Strange, that combo works just like ctrl+alt+delete using MS's remote desktop connection software. It seems a bit odd that they wouldn't have thought of it in BootCamp. Of course I'm still stuck on a G4 PB so I have no method to test with....

mnichols
Apr 21, 2006, 01:44 PM
I too was frustrated by the missing key sequence. However, I found that the Flying Windows key is the same as the Command (Apple) key on the MBP. So, using the native XP key combinations, you can do the Command key + U to bring up the onscreen keyboard. Then, with a few mouse clicks on the on-screen version of CTRL-ALT-DEL, you can log in, and then close the on-screen keyboard.

mkrishnan
Apr 21, 2006, 02:26 PM
It would be nice if they got the Fn key working in Windows... since you need it for Delete, Page up/down, home/end, enter (as opposed to return -- I *think*), and maybe other things, on the Apple notebook keyboards? All of which apply in Windows just as much as in OS X....

thomleno
Jul 11, 2006, 09:30 AM
Go to control panel, open User Accounts, click on the Advanced tab and uncheck the check box that says "Require users to press Ctrl+Alt+Delete"

You need to have admin rights to do it, but that will take care of the issue.

reh
Jul 11, 2006, 09:49 AM
Does Command actually do anything in XP, btw?
Yes, it's the Windows key.

kouljackson
Jul 11, 2006, 11:02 AM
Is this way WIndows on a Mac is so hard? There's not Ctrl key?

apunkrockmonk
Jul 11, 2006, 01:30 PM
I HIGHLY recommend using a program called input remapper. It can be found here (http://www.olofsson.info/).

The default keypad like in OSX. This includes num-lock functionality
fn+Left Click = Right Click
fn+Backspace = Delete
fn+Eject = PrintScreen
fn+F1 = Decrease Brightness
fn+F2 = Increase Brightness
fn+F3 = Toggle Mute
fn+F4 = Decrease Volume
fn+F5 = Increase Volume
fn+F6 = Toggle Num-Lock
fn+Up = Page Up
fn+Down = Page Down
fn+Left = Home
fn+Right = End
Eject = Eject all optical discs
Enter = Right mouse button


Great program for mac laptops running windows.

mkrishnan
Jul 11, 2006, 01:50 PM
I HIGHLY recommend using a program called input remapper. It can be found here (http://www.olofsson.info/).

This sounds like a really great find! Thank you! :)

fekchn
Aug 28, 2006, 05:40 PM
Ctrl+Alt+Del THEN press fn. It only works when fn is pressed after the other three have been pressed. Voilla!:) http://forums.macrumors.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

tdhurst
Aug 28, 2006, 06:19 PM
Does it strike anyone else as absolutely HILARIOUS that someone is desperately searching for a way to reset Windows on a Mac?

You'd think people would just realize windows ain't worth it...

mkrishnan
Aug 28, 2006, 06:45 PM
Does it strike anyone else as absolutely HILARIOUS that someone is desperately searching for a way to reset Windows on a Mac?

You know that ctrl-alt-del is the key sequence to bring up the login window when you first start many versions of Windows, right?

tdhurst
Aug 28, 2006, 07:08 PM
Yes, but it's better known as the "oh ****, windows froze key combo."

I was making a poorly thought out joke, I suppose.

mkrishnan
Aug 28, 2006, 07:12 PM
Yes, but it's better known as the "oh ****, windows froze key combo."

Well of course it is. ;) Your main point that Windows sucks is well taken. :eek: :D

dovinci
Oct 18, 2006, 02:06 PM
Thanks fekchn, but ctrl-alt-del THEN fn didn't quite work for me.

Instead, press and hold down the CTRL and ALT modifiers, then FN followed by DEL. So the FN-DEL is behaving as a delete key, rather than backspace.

This is on my MacBook Pro's keyboard, connected to a Windows XP system using RDC.

mcenergy
Oct 18, 2006, 04:38 PM
You actually have another option. Windows comes with an onscreen keyboard as an accessibility option. You can open the onscreen keyboard and perform your ctrl-alt-del.

It's available through Start > All Programs > Accessories > Accessibility

Richard

MacDug23
Aug 28, 2010, 08:26 AM
If you need to do Ctrl-Alt-Del on a MacBook running BookCamp and Windows 7, click the little Easy of Access icon in the lower left of the screen. Then, check “Type without the keyboard”. A keyboard will appear on the screen. Click Ctrl Alt Del.

premix
Apr 14, 2011, 09:39 AM
I'm running XP on my mac with parallels 6.

With a mac keyboard:

command + option + control + fn + delete

That sequence is the same as ctrl alt del

amitkmrj
Apr 1, 2012, 03:47 AM
"Delete" in windows for PC = "fn + delete" in windows for bootcamp.