Instant live concert CDs coming soon?

[vniow]

Kinda cool, even if it's from Clear Channel.

Experiments are rife in the music business these days -- and Boston will be a test market for one of the most novel of them. Clear Channel Concerts, the nation's largest concert promoter, has ambitious plans to record live CDs of its shows and sell them to patrons within five minutes after those shows end. Clear Channel is targeting Boston as the first site for the new plan, according to sources within the organization.

Multiple CD burners would be brought in, and the live CDs would probably sell for around $15 in the same way that T-shirts and other merchandise can be purchased after concerts. No one knows what the demand would be, but the project is expected to begin at club shows within a couple of months, then be refined and work its way up to the amphitheater level, though that may not happen until next year, sources say. (http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/038/living/Instant_live_CDs_of_a_concert_Testing_to_begin_in_Boston+.shtml)

[Noiseboy]

This would only be "Kinda cool" if 99% of the monies received was paid to the artist with a further proviso that the artist then has to pay key personell vis-a-vis sound and lighting engineers, a reasonable proportion of that. The videographers fee being paid from the Clearchannel cut.

And that's my 2 cents.

[krhodus]

that would be sweet especially if the concert really meant something to you (ie. you ask your girlfriend to marry you at the concert). The idea sounds cool, but actually getting it to work would be the hard part.

[dricci]

That sounds like a great idea, I just hope the artists get the majority of the profits. This actually seems like a good way to help recover from "piracy" losses, too. However, I wonder if current copyright law would allow me to go pay for the concert CD, and then go download the studio version of the song from the Internet? hmm :confused:

[ELYXR]

If any of you read the last WIRED Magazine front page article (RIP, MIX, BURN... The Fall of the Music Industry), you know how cool of an idea this is. The music industry is completely F*CKED and brilliant ideas like this are few and far between. Even if it is Clear Channel that's capitalizing on it. :rolleyes:

[menoinjun]

Phish has released some shows the morning after the concert for download on their website. I don't think you could ever get faster than that because you have to master and mix the show properly, and that just cant happen live.

-Pete

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by ptrauber
Phish has released some shows the morning after the concert for download on their website. I don't think you could ever get faster than that because you have to master and mix the show properly, and that just cant happen live.

-Pete


That's what I was thinking. How good is the mix going to be? Talk about putting pressure on yer audio guys. :eek:


Lethal

[barkmonster]

that sounds like a great idea, I just hope the artists get the majority of the profits. This actually seems like a good way to help recover from "piracy" losses, too. However, I wonder if current copyright law would allow me to go pay for the concert CD, and then go download the studio version of the song from the Internet? hmm

I can't see that being legal, I've got both portishead studio albums, It doesn't mean the live album I got that has tracks from both albums was free because I'd already paid once for the songs. It also doesn't mean I can haggle with a record shop to knock money of a CD because I already bought a single or 2 off the album.

[mymemory]

I mean, I have a few concerts CD's as many of you should have too, but I know those concerts are re-masterized in studio before they go out. I mean, tons of artist do that and I have video concerts where not every single song was taken at the same arena.

Bands and singers are gonna be videotaped and that will mean more pre-production, is is gonna be just like perform for live tv, more complexity to the production.

[Noiseboy]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LethalWolfe
[B]


That's what I was thinking. How good is the mix going to be? Talk about putting pressure on yer audio guys. :eek:

And therein lies the problem. They say they are going to start at some club gigs but immediately you're stuck with a couple of decisions. Does the bands sound engineer mix for the audience around him or does he mix for the video or, an even worse case scenario, do you have a seperate sound desk for the video feed that isn't mixed by the bands engineer at all?
In a small room the sound from the guitar rig and, to a lesser extent, the drum kit is usually loud enough so that not a lot of it is needed to go into the front of house mix. Consequently when listening to a tape from the sound desk, the guitars and drums seem far too low in the mix. Definitely problematical. It is possible to send different feeds via separate subgroups and matrices but monitoring whats going to them could only really be done on headphones which is less than ideal.

[RandomDeadHead]

I have been doing that for years, but not selling them of course.
This is what you will need.

1. Ticket to the show
2. permission to tape
3. seat in the taper section
4. one Tascam DA-P1 portable dat recorder
5. one blank dat tape
6. Pair of Nak 300 mics
7. Bag, stand, mini umbrella ( if outside show), cords, etc.

put it all togather, and you have a copy of the show right after the band walks off stage, and for free too.