iWork Updates are Here!!!! [Archive]

MimUK

Apr 26, 2006, 03:17 PM

Apple have updated Pages to version 2.0.1 and Keynote to 3.0.1

Both via Software Update

Downloading Now :)

Pages 2.0.1 addresses issues with charts and image adjust. It also addresses a number of other minor issues.

This update to Keynote 3.0 addresses issues with three-dimensional charts and textures. It also addresses a number of other minor issues. This update should be installed on all computers that share your Keynote 3.0 files, so that textures display properly.

SpaceMagic

Apr 26, 2006, 03:50 PM

Hopefully fixes processor hogging in Pages! It grinds the rest of your computer to a halt.. downloading now.

MimUK

Apr 26, 2006, 04:14 PM

Thought they may have fixed the apple remote not working for non intel iMacs

eva01

Apr 26, 2006, 04:22 PM

I hope it does address those charts it says it does. I have had a few crashes from making charts in pages.

devman

Apr 26, 2006, 07:43 PM

BEWARE! Since the update Pages crashes every time on a certain document I have. I was working on that document fine with Pages 2.0 but since the 2.0.1 update, Pages crashes every time I open that document.

Another document opens fine. I'm still testing to see if there's a pattern to this or why. i.e. is it only this one document or are there others that crash Pages as well.

Off to bugreport again. And I have to downgrade Pages.

EDIT:

Ok, the following Pages-supplied templates all crash since the update: Extreme, Sailing, Family, Non-Profit, Photo Journal and Education Newsletter.

These templates do not crash Pages 2.0.1: Modern, Club, Financial, Design, Travel.

I stopped testing at this point.

unfaded

Apr 26, 2006, 08:14 PM

I like that the article on the front page says "iWorks"

AppleWorks + iWork = iWorks

p0intblank

Apr 26, 2006, 08:14 PM

I really want to try out iWork, but Apple doesn't have a free trial on their site. :(

weazle1098

Apr 26, 2006, 08:19 PM

I really want to try out iWork, but Apple doesn't have a free trial on their site. :(

If you live near a college campus it's only like 40$ so I couldn't afford not to buy it. And its wonderful, so definatly worth buying, especially at half price :D

Bern

Apr 26, 2006, 08:21 PM

I love iWork, I ditched MS Office for it and have been using it extensively. The update hasn't effected me adversely.

Can't wait to see what Apple introduces to it next year.

Spanky Deluxe

Apr 26, 2006, 08:32 PM

rye9

Apr 26, 2006, 08:32 PM

Yes! I've been waiting and wondering when Apple would update the software. :) I hope everything works fine with Pages.. I'm sure it will though.

devman

Apr 26, 2006, 08:32 PM

I love iWork, I ditched MS Office for it and have been using it extensively. The update hasn't effected me adversely.

Can you try some of the templates I mentioned above in post #6 and let us know what happens?

IJ Reilly

Apr 26, 2006, 08:35 PM

Downloading now...

I don't really use iWork but one day I hope to use Keynote. The thought of using Powerpoint when an application like Keynote already exists is a rather putrid one. Pages has never appealed to me in fact I don't think I've ever opened it. From what I can gather its not really that great though, well that's what I've heard people say on here. Its all abbout Keynote. That one app is worth the money.

I think you might want to at least launch Pages before you decide whether it appeals to you. You'll get plenty of positive comments about Pages around here. But let's not turn this into another one of those threads. I'm more interested to know whether the update is safe.

Kingsly

Apr 26, 2006, 08:38 PM

Why we're on the subject of iWork:
I get the feeling people don't like pages very much. I have to imagine its at least the same as appleworks when it comes to word processing. Well?

hyperpasta

Apr 26, 2006, 08:45 PM

Can you try some of the templates I mentioned above in post #6 and let us know what happens?

I just tried Extreme. Works fine. Are you on a PowerPC or Intel?

p0intblank

Apr 26, 2006, 08:48 PM

If you live near a college campus it's only like 40$ so I couldn't afford not to buy it. And its wonderful, so definatly worth buying, especially at half price :D

I go to a county college, so I don't know if the school store would have one. I do have class in the morning, so I'll try to remember to check then. Thanks for the heads up! :)

.Andy

Apr 26, 2006, 08:50 PM

Why we're on the subject of iWork:
I get the feeling people don't like pages very much. I have to imagine its at least the same as appleworks when it comes to word processing. Well?

I don't mind it. It's not really a word processor per se - in want of a better moniker it's more of a document editor. Great for little projects like flyers, cards, letters, posters, quizzes, school reports etc (really nice templates). Kind of half-way between Word and Pagemaker.....it sits in a strange spot but i find it quite smooth for what it does.

rye9

Apr 26, 2006, 08:51 PM

Why we're on the subject of iWork:
I get the feeling people don't like pages very much. I have to imagine its at least the same as appleworks when it comes to word processing. Well?

I find Pages to be quite well... it doesn't lack anything important really. It is a pain having to use Inspector to adjust settings and stuff..but that is it.. other than that I find it better than Office... because it automatically hyphenates words, which I find very convenient.

p0intblank

Apr 26, 2006, 08:52 PM

How is Pages' interface compared to Word's? I've been using Word a bit lately and find it to be cluttered.

rye9

Apr 26, 2006, 08:55 PM

How is Pages' interface compared to Word's? I've been using Word a bit lately and find it to be cluttered.

Pages I find to be much cleaner (like all Apple apps) and less cluttered than Word... not as much features I guess, but I like it that way bc I only need simple word processing w/ occasional graphs... Pages is perfect for me. :)

devman

Apr 26, 2006, 09:03 PM

I just tried Extreme. Works fine. Are you on a PowerPC or Intel?

I'm on PPC 10.4.5.

The crash is something to do with ATSUI.

I have a laptop (also PPC) on 10.4.6 but still at Pages 2.0 and all docs there are fine.

2006-04-27 11:17:24.946 Pages[7334] Method: layoutLine: paramBlock :
Object: <SFWPATSUITypesetter: 0x17ce2780>
File: /SourceCache/iWork/iWork-474/lockbox/src/sfwordprocessing/SFWPATSUITypesetter.mm
Line #: 622
Bad result from ATSUBreakLine
Pages(7334,0xa000ed68) malloc: *** Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0x2abba00; This could be a double free(), or free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug
Pages(7334,0xa000ed68) malloc: *** Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0x17c37e50; This could be a double free(), or free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug
2006-04-27 11:17:24.947 Pages[7334] Method: pCreateGlyphVectorForLineFragment:state:localStartCharIndex:localEndCharIndex:atPosition:lineFragEnd Position:
Object: <SFWPATSUITypesetter: 0x17ce2780>
File: /SourceCache/iWork/iWork-474/lockbox/src/sfwordprocessing/SFWPATSUITypesetter.mm
Line #: 1252
ATSUDirectGetLayoutDataArrayPtrFromTextLayout error
Apr 27 11:17:25 crashdump[7337]: Pages crashed
Apr 27 11:17:26 crashdump[7337]: crash report written to: /Users/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Pages.crash.log

ccool2ax

Apr 26, 2006, 09:06 PM

Wow, another update for software i've had no problems with.

ccool2ax

Apr 26, 2006, 09:08 PM

I go to a county college, so I don't know if the school store would have one. I do have class in the morning, so I'll try to remember to check then. Thanks for the heads up! :)

He's referring to the Apple Store Education Discount for college students.

eva01

Apr 26, 2006, 09:16 PM

My pages does not crash loading the themes mentioned by devman, i am running on PPC latest OS and latest everything else.

devman

Apr 26, 2006, 09:17 PM

Works now after a reboot. Here's my speculation.

After the security issues a while back, I changed my setup from a single account (user) to two OS X users. I created a new user and made that one an admin, and switched my original user (the one I use all the time) down to a standard user. This was following instructions on this forum a while back and this setup has worked well for me.

So, today I am logged in as my user (the standard user). I launch Pages and it tells me there is an update. I quit Pages and did a fast user switch to the admin user. As admin I ran Software Update and applied Pages, Keynote and Garageband updates. I then logout of the admin user and switch back to me (the standard user).

I then re-open Pages and the document I was working on and I got the crash.

An hour or so later, I rebooted the powermac. Low and behold, Pages now opens all documents fine.

So, somehow, something under the covers to do with ATSUI wasn't updated in that logged-in session. i.e. something in-memory. I speculate then that people using this two account setup should also log out of the standard account before logging in to the admin account to apply any updates. A fast user switch - even if you quit running apps - may not be enough.

eva01

Apr 26, 2006, 09:19 PM

Glad you got it situated devman

devman

Apr 26, 2006, 09:36 PM

Glad you got it situated devman

Thanks. I'm glad too! :)

ccool2ax

Apr 26, 2006, 09:37 PM

I really want to try out iWork, but Apple doesn't have a free trial on their site. :(

Ask an Apple Genius. Or buy iLife. They didn't have iWork the day after the keynote at my AStore, but they had iLife. I used the iWork trial disc to buy a liscense

p0intblank

Apr 26, 2006, 09:42 PM

He's referring to the Apple Store Education Discount for college students.

Oh okay, that flew right past me. :D $40 is hella cheap for software... I just may get it.

ibook30

Apr 26, 2006, 09:55 PM

I don't have iWork- but there was a Garage Band update for me. Goodies for everyone...

IJ Reilly

Apr 26, 2006, 10:00 PM

Wow, another update for software i've had no problems with.

Actually, Pages (and I believe Keynote as well) has an awful bug related to image correction. I don't know if this update fixes it, but I'm anxious to find out.

kenaustus

Apr 26, 2006, 11:06 PM

I've shifted about 50% of my Word use to Pages and appreciate the clean appearance of the design. I still use Word for some long documents & manuals that were started there, as well as some of the more complex tables I need from time to time. I think Pages will improve over time (the addition of auto-correction was a big one) and I'll move more work to it.

The biggest gap is, for me, a spreadsheet and hopefully that will come in the '07 version. Might be nice if they threw in a FileMaker Jr. with it and the other apps that will let it replace AppleWorks.

For a trial version of iWork find anyone who has a new Mac or a new copy of iLife 06 - a trial version comes with them and you can give it a go.

PanicRoom

Apr 27, 2006, 03:10 AM

This is great! They've finally fixed a small, but long-standing punctuation problem in Pages: smart quotation marks immediately following an open bracket — (" — would face the wrong way, i.e. left toward the bracket rather than right toward the following quotation. It now works as it should. Now if they can just manage to get language specific punctuation working (like in Word), I'll be a very happy camper.

Ish

Apr 27, 2006, 03:26 AM

I've still got iWorks 05 and was waiting for 07, but these extras are making it look better and better. They include some of the things I have to go back to Appleworks for.

Can anyone please tell me if a problem I have with 05 is fixed? When copying something that is in a text box in Pages, the copied text box isn't as moveable as the original; it's got some black and some blue frame when highlighted, not all black like the original. Other than always using new text boxes does anyone know a way around this? I know the problem of the command key not working with keyboard viewer wasn't fixed with 06 but I don't know if the upgrade will help.

I still use Appleworks occasionally because it has mail merge and drawing features, some of which this new upgrade now supplies and I use InDesign for more complex stuff, but Pages is great, easy to use and getting better.

godrifle

Apr 27, 2006, 10:17 AM

I moved my iWork apps to a subfolder inside the Application folder. Software Update showed no updates available this morning. So I downloaded the standalone updaters, and they failed saying they couldn't locate any installations of iWork apps. As sooon as I moved the updates back into the Applications folder, and ran Software Update again, the updates showed.

I can't imagine the number of apps that aren't getting properly patched because of Apple's reliance on static locations.

Kingsly

Apr 27, 2006, 04:05 PM

Well, I only use it for reports, letters and such. Heck, I don't even know how to use a spreadsheet!
Besides, keynote looks %&*# cool!

Guess who Apple's next iWork customer is?:rolleyes:

Bern

Apr 27, 2006, 04:40 PM

Why we're on the subject of iWork:
I get the feeling people don't like pages very much. I have to imagine its at least the same as appleworks when it comes to word processing. Well?

I used it to write a manual for my college assignment, it had to have the usual table of contents, index, bibliography, definitions, images with captions (ie: figure 1.1, etc) and so on. It worked flawlessly and actually looks a whole lot better than anything I could have done in Word. Even the cover looks amazing. I have to submit a hard copy and an electronic copy, they expect to receive a .doc file of course but they're getting it in pdf. I exported my Pages manual to pdf (using "print") and the end result is exactly how it looks in Pages.

So yeah I like Pages. It's easier to use and just as good as Word.

yojitani

Apr 27, 2006, 04:42 PM

I love pages, but the problem I have had most recently is that after you type a letter, once you reopen it pages updates the date automatically. Kind of irritating when you need to find the date you typed the letter. At least finder can help approximate it.

YOJI

IJ Reilly

Apr 27, 2006, 05:04 PM

IJ Reilly

Apr 27, 2006, 05:14 PM

bousozoku

Apr 27, 2006, 05:30 PM

I've discovered that this update fixes a major bug in Pages 2.0 (not advertised by Apple, naturally). In 2.0, if you used the Adjust Image pane to correct image levels, etc. of a jpeg, Pages would create an uncompressed tiff image for each adjustment, and store them in the document package. These images are huge! If later you decided to revert to the original image, Pages would not delete the adjustment files from the package, so the file would balloon and stay that way. Now, with 2.01, Pages creates much more efficient jpeg adjustment files, and they are properly deleted if the image is reverted to the original.

Sorry, but I thought that was all that it fixed.

I love pages, but the problem I have had most recently is that after you type a letter, once you reopen it pages updates the date automatically. Kind of irritating when you need to find the date you typed the letter. At least finder can help approximate it.

YOJI

Uncheck the automatically update the date box when you insert the date.

Demon Hunter

Apr 27, 2006, 10:12 PM

I'm still waiting for a performance boost... Pages gets slower every time I use it...

But yes it's amazing, I don't even have Word on my hard drive anymore.

Does anyone else think the new Keynote templates are weird? That whole 3D-wood-graph thing, not really working IMO.

IJ Reilly

Apr 28, 2006, 02:13 AM

Sorry, but I thought that was all that it fixed.

Not sure what you mean, the 2.01 update? AFAIK, Apple never even acknowledged that it was a problem.

Fabio_gsilva

Apr 28, 2006, 11:48 AM

I find Pages to be quite well... it doesn't lack anything important really. It is a pain having to use Inspector to adjust settings and stuff..but that is it.. other than that I find it better than Office... because it automatically hyphenates words, which I find very convenient.

How I disable this option? Here, in Brazil, we don't like it very much....

bousozoku

Apr 28, 2006, 11:54 AM

Not sure what you mean, the 2.01 update? AFAIK, Apple never even acknowledged that it was a problem.

What I saw when before I accepted to install it was that it fixed a problem with the photo adjustment controls.

IJ Reilly

Apr 28, 2006, 12:00 PM

What I saw when before I accepted to install it was that it fixed a problem with the photo adjustment controls.

Right, I know. But the specific flaw it fixed wasn't described in the documentation for the update, or anywhere else that I've seen. It was a pretty big one IMO, so I thought knowing that would make the update seem a bit more urgent for Pages users. Probably Keynote 3.0 has the same issue, but I haven't tested it.

weazle1098

Apr 28, 2006, 08:50 PM

He's referring to the Apple Store Education Discount for college students.

Nah, talking about my university store, has it for 40$ I think the store gets it at the discounted price is why.

bousozoku

Apr 28, 2006, 09:33 PM

Right, I know. But the specific flaw it fixed wasn't described in the documentation for the update, or anywhere else that I've seen. It was a pretty big one IMO, so I thought knowing that would make the update seem a bit more urgent for Pages users. Probably Keynote 3.0 has the same issue, but I haven't tested it.

You expected them to admit to something that big? :D Maybe I'm just cynical but Apple only admits to small stuff.

IJ Reilly

Apr 29, 2006, 12:37 AM

You expected them to admit to something that big? :D Maybe I'm just cynical but Apple only admits to small stuff.

So long as they can fix it before too many people notice, anyway. I only picked up on this issue a couple of weeks ago, so as far as I'm concerned, Apple got right on it!

OttawaGuy

May 2, 2006, 06:20 AM

There seems to be a revision available in software update for both pages and keynote today.
3.01 v.2
It was something like that.
I already updated Pages to version 2.0.1 and Keynote to 3.0.1 last week.

gauchogolfer

May 2, 2006, 10:22 AM

Does anyone know what this new round of updates is supposed to fix? It seems a bit strange to have updates a week apart. Plus, another 62 megs? Nice and light.

jsw

May 2, 2006, 10:30 AM

Does anyone know what this new round of updates is supposed to fix? It seems a bit strange to have updates a week apart. Plus, another 62 megs? Nice and light.
Yeah, the notes for the updates are a bit sketchy and look a lot like (identical to?) the updates that came out last week.

Odd that they'd be so big and yet mention so little. As of now, I don't even see them mentioned on the Apple downloads site - I just see the earlier versions.

IJ Reilly

May 2, 2006, 10:46 AM

The downloads are probably replacing the entire application package, which is why they are so huge. What a pain. Apple obviously got something wrong with the first iteration, but they aren't going to tell us what. Oy.

geeman

May 3, 2006, 02:39 AM

There seems to be a revision available in software update for both pages and keynote today.
3.01 v.2. It was something like that.

The strange thing is that this "v2" revision showed up under Software Update on my PB G4 1Ghz, but not on my Dual 2.7Ghz G5. Perhaps the "v2" update is just for G4 machines?

Has anyone running a G5-based machine had the v2 update appear via Software Update?

aegisdesign

May 3, 2006, 04:05 AM

Has anyone running a G5-based machine had the v2 update appear via Software Update?

Yep. iMac G5. I'd guess your PowerMac is just fibbing.

geeman

May 3, 2006, 04:49 AM

IJ Reilly

May 3, 2006, 10:32 AM

Thanks for letting me know. Though I now wonder why my G5 doesn't want to see the update :confused:

I haven't moved iWork from its default HD location (clearly if I had, Software Update wouldn't have picked up the first update). Perhaps I'll download the update from the Support website and install it manually.

Could you have downloaded the update without knowing? The v2 update doesn't show in the "About" dialog box, and I'm not sure we know precisely when it became available.

azucena

May 30, 2006, 02:55 PM

Hi:

Please tell us how to add a caption. I have iworks 05, please help me! I've trying this during days.

If anyone knows how to add a figure caption, please tell me.

I used it to write a manual for my college assignment, it had to have the usual table of contents, index, bibliography, definitions, images with captions (ie: figure 1.1, etc) and so on.

IJ Reilly

May 30, 2006, 03:15 PM

Hi:

Please tell us how to add a caption. I have iworks 05, please help me! I've trying this during days.

If anyone knows how to add a figure caption, please tell me.

Create a text object, type your caption in it. Then while the text object is selected, in the Inspector choose the Wrap pane and select the "fixed on page" option. You can then grab the text object by the edges and drag to where you need it. I like to group the caption with the photo or image, which allows you to wrap text around the grouped objects.

(This question probably deserved its own thread.)