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MacRumors
May 10, 2006, 11:01 PM
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Apple customers started getting word of their 17" MacBook Pros finally shipping (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/05/20060506134432.shtml) late last week. The first shipments are arriving. This photo set (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ecbusalacchi/sets/72057594129114051/) shows unpacking of the 17" MacBook Pro as well as side-by-side comparisons with the 17" PowerBook. Another set (http://homepage.mac.com/davehagan/macbookpro/) with unpacking and comparison shots.

The first recipients have been posting their first impressions (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=473306&tstart=0) of the 17" MacBook Pro on Apple's Discussion board. Meanwhile, MacRumors users have also posted their initial impressions on our forums (http://forums.macrumors.com):

- 17" MBP in hand (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=199238)
- Quick 17" MBP review (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=199580)
- 17" MBP First Impressions (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=199235) (DOA Screen Issue)

While a 17" screen on a laptop (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030106205306.shtml) may still seem luxurious, Maccentral reports (http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/gameroom/2006/05/19inchlaptops/index.php) from E3 that 19" laptops are a growing trend.

MattG
May 10, 2006, 11:05 PM
Oooh pretty :-)

I'd never buy one, but they are beautiful machines. Can't wait to get my 15" :)

longofest
May 10, 2006, 11:09 PM
okay... 17" was pushing it, but 19"??? That is crazy talk for a laptop. You gotta be about 400+ pounds for a 19" computer to be a true "laptop"

Fiveos22
May 10, 2006, 11:14 PM
wasn't it just so recently that the 17" laptops were referred to as "lapzilla" computers?

19".....call me Tokyo, but I don't have the lap space for that.

ddrueckhammer
May 10, 2006, 11:19 PM
okay... 17" was pushing it, but 19"??? That is crazy talk for a laptop. You gotta be about 400+ pounds for a 19" computer to be a true "laptop"

Ha! You might as well carry around a 20" iMac in a suitcase.

Ja Di ksw
May 10, 2006, 11:19 PM
17", 19", bah.

Bring on the 30". That's what I want. Your screen size is, after all, a reflection of your manliness.

~Shard~
May 10, 2006, 11:23 PM
17", 19", bah.

Bring on the 30". That's what I want. Your screen size is, after all, a reflection of your manliness.

Or lack thereof... :p ;)

Great news, I'm eager to hear the first reviews on these things. Hopefully these machines won't be plagued with the initial problems many of the 15" MacBooks encountered.

As for a 19" laptop, yeah, you might as well just lug your 20" iMac around. To me that's starting to defeat the purpose of having a portable computer. :cool:

Brad Raple
May 10, 2006, 11:28 PM
okay... 17" was pushing it, but 19"??? That is crazy talk for a laptop. You gotta be about 400+ pounds for a 19" computer to be a true "laptop"

When I was complaining about the heat of my MBP15, the Apple Tech about snorted coffee from his nose when I had the audacity to refer to it as a "laptop." He told me Apple hasn't made a computer that was designed to be used on your lap since the first Titanium Powerbooks. :mad:

Whatever. I've had at least 6 Apple "Portables" and didn't have any problems putting THEM on my lap.

razzmatazz
May 10, 2006, 11:28 PM
I mean 17" is a little to big for me but 19"!? :eek:

iHeartTheApple
May 10, 2006, 11:30 PM
This is great! :D I'm really excited to see how people like the new 17"er. I guess I didn't realize that it is slightly deeper to account for the addition of the iSight. As for the 19" laptop...I *love* the size of my 17"PB, but I think 19" is big even for me! :eek: We'll see if it really catches on...

harperb
May 10, 2006, 11:43 PM
When you configure both with the 2.16ghz core duo and the 100 gig 7200rpm drive? isn't that insane? Paying 100$ more and getting much less (smaller screen, slower cpu, no firewire 800, and 4x vs 8x dual layer on the 17"). I wonder if price drops are in store for the 15" soon?

dontmatter
May 11, 2006, 01:13 AM
yeah, when apple wow'd the world with the first 17 incher, it was pretty awesome as a powerful and usable (screen real-estate) computer that was still portable. But 19 inches.. kinda like a ford excursion... somebody'll be stupid enough to see the few benefits of such enormity as bigger than all the drawbacks. ick.

Lollypop
May 11, 2006, 01:18 AM
The price of the 17incher really is tempting, if your not very mobile and move your laptop once a day (work to home and back) then 17inches isnt that to bad! When i started with the mac someone online said that he always wanted bigger screens, then I didnt agree, now ive become so use to running a dozen apps at the same time that screen real-estate is starting sound more and more alluring!

jaredbbauer
May 11, 2006, 01:30 AM
I am very sorry to post this here but I cannot really find an appropriate place. But... Where did the omnigroup go??? I need a copy of omnigraffle and I cannot even find the company itself. Did they go under? is there anyone who is picking up development of their awesome software?

harperb
May 11, 2006, 01:37 AM
Their website is just down I think...I just downloaded omnigraffle earlier today...maybe try again in a few hours, or in the morning? I'm sure their network ops person is being woken up as we speak :-)


I am very sorry to post this here but I cannot really find an appropriate place. But... Where did the omnigroup go??? I need a copy of omnigraffle and I cannot even find the company itself. Did they go under? is there anyone who is picking up development of their awesome software?

MacsomJRR
May 11, 2006, 01:37 AM
I am very sorry to post this here but I cannot really find an appropriate place. But... Where did the omnigroup go??? I need a copy of omnigraffle and I cannot even find the company itself. Did they go under? is there anyone who is picking up development of their awesome software?

I think their site is down right now. I bought Graffle Pro couple weeks ago so I they should still be around:)

sjl
May 11, 2006, 01:40 AM
I find myself wondering if Apple has gone overboard on the thermal goop on these as well ...

tiramisu
May 11, 2006, 01:43 AM
does the new mb pro 17" works well, no probs like the 15"? ;-)

in topic of the new duo core 2 (arrival july/august):
will apple use this new chip very quickly or do the need a long time to modify the mainboard?

Phil A.
May 11, 2006, 01:43 AM
I am very sorry to post this here but I cannot really find an appropriate place. But... Where did the omnigroup go??? I need a copy of omnigraffle and I cannot even find the company itself. Did they go under? is there anyone who is picking up development of their awesome software?
Don't think they've gone anywhere - I bought a copy of Omnigraffle yesterday, although their site does seem to be down at the moment (http://www.omnigroup.com)

Stridder44
May 11, 2006, 01:46 AM
Im sorry this is obligatory

http://anonym.jp/appleshop/img/img570_powerbook50top-small.jpg

mproud
May 11, 2006, 02:07 AM
We got these in at the Mall of America store on Tuesday of this week.

Lollypop
May 11, 2006, 02:16 AM
Im sorry this is obligatory

http://anonym.jp/appleshop/img/img570_powerbook50top-small.jpg

LOL, sweet! Just imagine the cool stuff they could put into a laptop like that, dual firewire 800, raid 5, eSata... but then with a thing like that I wont need a gym membership would I! :p

(L)
May 11, 2006, 02:24 AM
While a 17" screen on a laptop (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030106205306.shtml) may still seem luxurious, Maccentral reports (http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/gameroom/2006/05/19inchlaptops/index.php) from E3 that 19" laptops are a growing trend.

Lol...all this says is that people will buy expensive, unwieldy "laptops" if they want semi-portability. 17" is a monster. 19" won't fit in normal bags/briefcases. That's really getting absurd. But then, some people want collapsible desktops.

Stridder44
May 11, 2006, 03:18 AM
LOL, sweet! Just imagine the cool stuff they could put into a laptop like that, dual firewire 800, raid 5, eSata... but then with a thing like that I wont need a gym membership would I! :p


You could break dance on that thing! I smell DDR function...

But really tho, a 19" "portable" beast!? It would be no guessing on what you are looking at seeing as how everyone and their dog could see your screen. Gah I can't even imagine....

j_maddison
May 11, 2006, 03:33 AM
Im sorry this is obligatory

http://anonym.jp/appleshop/img/img570_powerbook50top-small.jpg

Where do I get one from?? I wan't it, and I want it now! :D

j_maddison
May 11, 2006, 03:36 AM
17", 19", bah.

Bring on the 30". That's what I want. Your screen size is, after all, a reflection of your manliness.

Sexist! :p

j_maddison
May 11, 2006, 03:41 AM
All joking aside, I'm sure these laptops will appeal to some people.

When visiting a friend of mine in Bournemouth (South England) I commented on her mothers laptop, which was on a desk in the side of the house. She told me that her mother had never moved the laptop since the day she'd brought it into the house. So I commented that she'd have been better off getting a desktop if she doesn't move it anywhere. My reply was a strange look that said 'have you gone mad, are you completely stupid' and then she said, but she wanted a laptop.

So for those people who defy logic, I'm sure there is a market for a 19" laptop.

Also there are instances where I'm not very mobile with my 12" Powerbook, and could quite comfortably sit there with a 19" monstrosity sitting on my lap. I think I'd also find one handy for sales presentations, but for day to day lugging about I think I'd find it a bit of a chore.

Jay

bigandy
May 11, 2006, 04:05 AM
i might just vaguely consider the 17" because of screen estate (i use FCP, Motion and similar constantly), the 15" just wasn't quite enough.. but 19" is just plain TOO BIG.

mlrproducts
May 11, 2006, 04:28 AM
I totally thought it ws April 1st when I saw this.

I just forgot they announced the 17". Ooops.

Glassman
May 11, 2006, 04:49 AM
what I personally really miss on MacBooks is the lack of options in displays.. I'd certainly welcome 1680x1050 in 15.4" and 1920x1200 in 17".. I'm fine with small pixels, I miss the desktop area the most.. right now I run on 14" at 1400x1050 and don't want to go for lower..

Demon Hunter
May 11, 2006, 05:17 AM
i might just vaguely consider the 17" because of screen estate (i use FCP, Motion and similar constantly), the 15" just wasn't quite enough.. but 19" is just plain TOO BIG.

If it was quad-core I'd buy it!

The screen real-estate (17 or 19) is also sweet for students... instead of switching apps, you can put up all your pdf/research/notes for side-by-side comparison. Invaluable for paper writing.

But you can forget about typing class notes...

Lollypop
May 11, 2006, 05:18 AM
what I personally really miss on MacBooks is the lack of options in displays.. I'd certainly welcome 1680x1050 in 15.4" and 1920x1200 in 17".. I'm fine with small pixels, I miss the desktop area the most.. right now I run on 14" at 1400x1050 and don't want to go for lower..


ummm... well your currently running a lower resolution arent you? I also wont mind smaller pixels and a bigger overall resolution, but they can go overboard and decrease visibility of objects on screen, guess we will have to wait for resolution independance before that problem is gone.

netdog
May 11, 2006, 05:28 AM
I understand that a 17" portable does offer some degree of portability, but I would guess that most are buying this machine to primarily serve as a DTR with perhaps occasional portable sessions.

I found with my DTR, it was fully portable for intra-house excursions which was of use many times. That said, I much prefer my Intel iMac.

Demon Hunter
May 11, 2006, 05:54 AM
There are two factors here. Weight and footprint.

Weight is a non-issue unless you have a lot of extra gear. Otherwise it's damn light!

The footprint, however, is bad for coffee tables, lecture desks... basically a lot of places you won't be encoding video. :p

RqThrottle
May 11, 2006, 06:22 AM
We got ours yesterday a full week before it was scheduled to arrive.

I played with it for a few hours, and I couldn't be happier. No whine at all and no heat issues. After 3 hours or so it was just slightly warm to the touch.

We got it as a desktop replacement, so weight and size are non-issues for us. I can't imagine using it as a "portable" though.

fisty
May 11, 2006, 06:57 AM
Im sorry this is obligatory

http://anonym.jp/appleshop/img/img570_powerbook50top-small.jpg

LOL brilliant...

im a proud owner of a 15' macbook pro...and i think 15" is the perfect size its...well portable hehe

i had a pc 17" laptop apart that it was heavy as **** etc...it was just way to big in screen size...fair enough for watching movie its great...but to have it on the go all day long i think 15" are way better

i even bring my 15"mbp when i dont need it hehe...just in case maybe i want to sit in a park and surf the web or whatever when im in city centre's

19" i still be able but would be a bit more of a hassle

sunfast
May 11, 2006, 07:02 AM
Would anybody here seriously buy a 19" MBP if one existed? I wouldn't even buy a 17" :eek:

RedTomato
May 11, 2006, 07:04 AM
All joking aside, I'm sure these laptops will appeal to some people.

When visiting a friend of mine in Bournemouth (South England) I commented on her mothers laptop, which was on a desk in the side of the house. She told me that her mother had never moved the laptop since the day she'd brought it into the house. So I commented that she'd have been better off getting a desktop if she doesn't move it anywhere. My reply was a strange look that said 'have you gone mad, are you completely stupid' and then she said, but she wanted a laptop.

Jay

Immobile laptops are perfect for small houses or small flats like wot we get in England. Far more tidy too - can be folded away, and fewer cables.

Even iMacs take a lot more room than laptops - seperate keyboard, mouse etc, and screen can't be folded down. Laptops don't dominate a room so much - important if you want a house to look like a home and not an office.

One final thing - laptops hold resale value better - I pay prices for old ones I'd never pay for desktops.

I do recommend to most of my mates that they buy laptops not desktops.

(another point is laptops are easier to take to your offspring for virus cleaning / sorting out / showing how to use folders)

xoxo

..RedTomato..

Marlon_JBT
May 11, 2006, 07:23 AM
19"... MASSIVE!

I'm going to be honest with everyone here... Apple probably has a 19" MacBook Pro in the works or at least is strongly considering one.

My 15" is huge enough. Anything bigger and I'd never want to take it anywhere. My 12" PowerBook was perfect for notes in class... the 15" MBP doesn't even fit properly on desks at my school. This is why I can't imagine anything larger than this size.

I'm also on my PowerBook at the moment. My MBP is currently Handbraking a DVD. :cool: 1024x768 is a huge pain now. :)

electronboy
May 11, 2006, 07:53 AM
Oh I can't wait to see someone unpack their 17" MacBook! :rolleyes: Why does this website post such inane details? And why do people watch a video of someone unpacking a computer? They are not unpacking the worlds largest diamond or some work of art.

nomore
May 11, 2006, 07:54 AM
I ordered a 17" MBP (should arrive on the 15th May). I need the high resolution screen. I currently have a 15" 1.33GHz Powerbook. From what I've seen on the Apple website, the physical dimensions of the 17" are only 1" wider and 1" deeper than the 15.4"... so for just that small amount of extra size, I think the extra features/screen size is worth it.

midwestshooter
May 11, 2006, 07:55 AM
I am a photographer - and I am on the road a lot. I use4 my 15" PowerBook in cars, airplanes - in Europe - and in 4X4 vehicles in the middle of nowhere.

I use the iGo (Juice) power system to run the PowerBook for ANY power source. It has been perfect.

I would love to get the new 17" MacBook Pro - or even the 15" version - but I will NOT order one until Apple lets 3rd parties (like iGo) make a power adapter for the MacBook Pro series. The MagSafe can NOT be used from a 12 volt source at present.

ccool2ax
May 11, 2006, 07:59 AM
Yay. Now where's my 12" 'Book? And I'm not getting a 13-inch iBook; I want something that has most of the features of the 15" in a small size.

nomore
May 11, 2006, 07:59 AM
Oh I can't wait to see someone unpack their 17" MacBook! :rolleyes: Why does this website post such inane details? And why do people watch a video of someone unpacking a computer? They are not unpacking the worlds largest diamond or some work of art.

I think the MBP is quite a nice work of art.

ccool2ax
May 11, 2006, 08:01 AM
I am a photographer - and I am on the road a lot. I use4 my 15" PowerBook in cars, airplanes - in Europe - and in 4X4 vehicles in the middle of nowhere.

I use the iGo (Juice) power system to run the PowerBook for ANY power source. It has been perfect.

I would love to get the new 17" MacBook Pro - or even the 15" version - but I will NOT order one until Apple lets 3rd parties (like iGo) make a power adapter for the MacBook Pro series. The MagSafe can NOT be used from a 12 volt source at present.

Just get a power inverter. That works great for my Powerbook and there's no reason it should'nt for MBP. Just be sure to get a high enough watt-rated one so it can power your machine.

intlplby
May 11, 2006, 08:04 AM
my gf can barely handle 17", she's gonna freak if i get a 19"er.... she won't be walking for a week

midwestshooter
May 11, 2006, 08:05 AM
:mad: I am a photographer - and I am on the road a lot. I use my 15" PowerBook in cars, airplanes - in the USA and Europe - and in 4X4 vehicles in the middle of nowhere.

I use the iGo (Juice) power system to run the PowerBook from ANY power source. It has been perfect. Cars, planes. 120/220 - anywhere.

I would love to get the new 17" MacBook Pro - or even the 15" version - but I will NOT order one until Apple lets 3rd parties (like iGo) make a MagSafe plug for the MacBook Pro series. The MagSafe can NOT be used from a 12 volt source at present. Forget about inverters - they waste power.

Says Apple. "Mobile users will love the new MagSafe Power Adapter...."

I Love it NOT !!!!!

Does Apple plan to make their own 12 volt/car-air adapter??? If not, why not release the plug for other developers?

What idiot at Apple planned the ultimate portable workstation for mobile photographers or video (or audio) workers - and forgot about the source of power?? This is NUTS.

Dick

http://www.naturephotostudio.com

midwestshooter
May 11, 2006, 08:11 AM
Just get a power inverter. That works great for my Powerbook and there's no reason it should'nt for MBP. Just be sure to get a high enough watt-rated one so it can power your machine.

No! They will NOT work on airplanes - they blow the fuse.

Why go from 12 volts to 120 volts wih an inverter - and then back to low voltage DC with the Apple power brick? The second law of thermodynamics will win every time!

Apple dropped the ball here!

Dick

http://www.naturephotostudio.com

gloss
May 11, 2006, 08:25 AM
Im sorry this is obligatory

http://anonym.jp/appleshop/img/img570_powerbook50top-small.jpg

I just spewed toothpaste on my monitor.

Bravo. :D

true777
May 11, 2006, 08:31 AM
I would seriously consider a 19" MacBook Pro, and I am a 5'2" woman.
I live both in Europe and in the US, and 95% of the time use the computer from home -- don't lug it around town and don't want an external monitor to clog up my desk space at home, hence want the largest screen I can get.

When I do move it it's in my car where I don't care if I have a 17" or 19" bag lying around. The few steps from the car to my office or home are not a problem, and I'd LOVE to have a 19" screen I could move from the US to Europe with no problem. The 19" would still fit inside a carry-on bag.

So... since I don't use an external monitor *and* don't really lug the MacBook around on foot, I would be very interested in a 19", actually. I guess different people just have different needs, and more choice is generally good for the consumer, no?

iEugene
May 11, 2006, 09:04 AM
Ha! You might as well carry around a 20" iMac in a suitcase.
That's what I was thinking.

It's good to hear that the reviews have been favoring more positive towards the larger MBP.

bretm
May 11, 2006, 09:13 AM
When I was complaining about the heat of my MBP15, the Apple Tech about snorted coffee from his nose when I had the audacity to refer to it as a "laptop." He told me Apple hasn't made a computer that was designed to be used on your lap since the first Titanium Powerbooks. :mad:

Whatever. I've had at least 6 Apple "Portables" and didn't have any problems putting THEM on my lap.

The 1ghz G4 would burn your freakin legs off!

kinless
May 11, 2006, 09:27 AM
Did anyone

icecavern
May 11, 2006, 09:29 AM
First 17'' MacBooks Arriving

As long as you're not in the uk :(

kinless
May 11, 2006, 09:31 AM
Did anyone else notice the fact that the 19" laptops were lasting anywhere from 30 to 90 minutes on a full charge? I would think most people are turned off by that.

And I love it how after a year the charge will probably last 15 minutes and you'll have to spend more $$ for a new battery.

After two years my 12" Powerbook original battery still gets 2:30. Fo shizzle.

KaiMac
May 11, 2006, 09:32 AM
No! They will NOT work on airplanes - they blow the fuse.

Why go from 12 volts to 120 volts wih an inverter - and then back to low voltage DC with the Apple power brick? The second law of thermodynamics will win every time!

Apple dropped the ball here!

Dick

http://www.naturephotostudio.com


Wow, this is the first I have heard of this important problem. Thanks for pointing it out to another photographer who needs to travel with the laptop in the car quite a bit.

macnews
May 11, 2006, 09:32 AM
The 1ghz G4 would burn your freakin legs off!

MY 17" 1.33 Ghz G4 doesn't burn my legs off. Does it get warm? Yes. Hot? No.

Altough I love my 17" and would replace it, a 19" is just way too big.

milo
May 11, 2006, 10:04 AM
I would love to get the new 17" MacBook Pro - or even the 15" version - but I will NOT order one until Apple lets 3rd parties (like iGo) make a power adapter for the MacBook Pro series. The MagSafe can NOT be used from a 12 volt source at present.

What makes you think Apple isn't letting third parties do this?

slffl
May 11, 2006, 10:16 AM
Would anybody here seriously buy a 19" MBP if one existed? I wouldn't even buy a 17" :eek:

Well I think people are crazy for buying a 15". You either need portability or power. But everyone saying 15" is 'just right' is probably the same reason silver is the most popular car color. People can't make up their minds so they go with an average.

midwestshooter
May 11, 2006, 10:17 AM
What makes you think Apple isn't letting third parties do this?

Can you find one?

It so, I'll buy it.

Dick

jelloshotsrule
May 11, 2006, 10:22 AM
Can you find one?

It so, I'll buy it.

Dick

there's a big difference between apple not letting them do it, and the 3rd parties having not gotten around to doing it yet. the mbp is still a pretty new machine.

Fiveos22
May 11, 2006, 10:31 AM
Did anyone


I assume that was a question, right?

Eurocom claims that their Emperor laptop beast (http://eurocom.com/products/showroom/specselectnew.cfm?model_id=172) gets, 6600mAH. Couldn't find any reviews yet.

philbeeney
May 11, 2006, 10:39 AM
Would anybody here seriously buy a 19" MBP if one existed? I wouldn't even buy a 17" :eek:

Absolutely.!!! In fact the bigger the better.

I have a 17" G4 PowerBook with all the trimmings and for 95% of the time it sits at home as a desktop. I've got a Brenthaven back pack to carry it around in when I need to go somewhere with it, so there's no inconvenience whatsoever. It's a case of what suits your needs. A desktop doesn't suit my needs, as I need the occasional portability.

I'd love to see Apple produce a Quad Core 20" (or bigger) MacBook Pro maxed out with all the options. Yes, it may be more expensive than a normal laptop, but I'm willing to pony up the extra cash for it. Now that you can dual boot Windows XP, imagine how many gamers would prefer to show up at a LAN party sporting a cool looking MacBook Pro.

Antares
May 11, 2006, 11:03 AM
While a 17" screen on a laptop (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030106205306.shtml) may still seem luxurious, Maccentral reports (http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/gameroom/2006/05/19inchlaptops/index.php) from E3 that 19" laptops are a growing trend.

Yep, I'll be in the market for a MacBook Pro in the future...but can't wait to see the eventual 30" models. Anyway, I wonder when Apple will start producing 19inchers. Hmm, I remember when when everybody was awed by the screen size of my now lowly 14" PowerBook G3.

BWhaler
May 11, 2006, 12:46 PM
Can you find one?

It so, I'll buy it.

Dick

Give it time. There were adaptors for the old custom Apple plugs, so it is safe to assume there will be for the current generation.

But you are correct that it is inconvenient today.

nagromme
May 11, 2006, 12:48 PM
19" is too big for me, but isn't it obvious that everyone has different needs?

A 19" MacBook would not surprise me. Call it a portable desktop if you want--it doesn't serve the SAME purpose as a 13" or 15" or even 17".... it serves a DIFFERENT purpose.

And if you think you can't carry a 19" laptop, just try carrying a 15" Dell :p I could NOT believe how thick and massive my uncle's was--and it's a recent model. It was not portable by MY standards! Then I saw the massive power brick and my jaw dropped.

We take thin and light computing for granted as Mac users, maybe. Even with Core, somehow PC companies find it hard to cram as many features into something as thin as a MacBook. But Core will certainly help them.

Point is, you CAN transport even a 15" Dell if you use both hands--same goes for 19".

imikem
May 11, 2006, 12:56 PM
It seems to me that a more effective long term approach to this would be to create some sort of dockable/detachable display. Then you could buy a little box with the guts in it, e.g., CPU, HD, keyboard, etc. To go along with it, you'd have your choice of a small/light display ~12 inches, and larger/heavier 17/19/whatever inches. You could buy one of each and be equally happy at home/office or on road/tight quarters. Maybe you could use both at the same time with AC power at hand.

Apple then need only develop a single mobile case, and monitors would be interchangeable and upgradeable when the next generation came along, or the number of stuck pixels got too annoying. Or the CPU unit could be upgraded separately.

Go ahead now and flame away at my stupid idea... :rolleyes:

Fiveos22
May 11, 2006, 02:49 PM
A 19" MacBook would not surprise me. Call it a portable desktop if you want--.

A portable? Haven't we seen this before?


http://www.allaboutapple.com/museo/pictures/donazioni/portable.jpg

Ja Di ksw
May 11, 2006, 03:31 PM
Sexist! :p

What? Women can have manliness ;)

j/k

deebster
May 11, 2006, 04:07 PM
Im sorry this is obligatory

http://anonym.jp/appleshop/img/img570_powerbook50top-small.jpg

How big is that trackpad?

:D

PowerPointSamur
May 11, 2006, 04:33 PM
I got mine yesterday and started setting it up last night. It's awesome! My only complaint so far is that it is not a sit-in-your-underwear computer...it burned my legs.

blueimac'00
May 11, 2006, 06:28 PM
i thought it was already out.

ImAlwaysRight
May 11, 2006, 08:42 PM
from xlr8yourmac.com

" Hi Mike, Just an update on my new 17" MBP 2GB 7200 100GB that came via FedEx this morning. First things first. Mac OS X performance and apps. Oh boy is this thing fast. My main computer is a G5 Dual 2.7GHz with 8GB ram and will be used as the comparison to the 17MBP.
Boot time to desktop:
Dual 2.7GHz G5: 36 sec
MacBook Pro 17inch: 8-11 sec (not a typo)

iDVD 30 min DV to DVD and burn:
Dual 2.7GHz G5: 36 min
MacBook Pro 17inch: 39 min

1080P trailer playback 3 movies simultaneous 24 FPS:
Dual 2.7GHz G5: 18 FPS
MacBook Pro 17inch: 10.4 FPS (QT crashed twice, but ran the 3rd time).

MS Word load 4000 pg document with photos 170MB: Dual 2.7GHz G5: 19.4 sec
MacBook Pro 17inch: 32 sec

okwhatev
May 11, 2006, 08:54 PM
from xlr8yourmac.com

Okay, this sold me. I just placed the order for the exact same specs. I'm trying not to let the sticker shock kill me (over $3000). But damn... that's an awesome report. Please someone do tell me though, it will at least be top of the line for, oh, 5 months won't it? Because it would really suck if they replaced it in August or something.

Anyhow, I'm not sure how it could get much better then the report above.

Mine is supposed to arrive on April 25th.

And the waiting begins! :)

AidenShaw
May 11, 2006, 11:38 PM
Because it would really suck if they replaced it in August or something.!
The faster 64-bit Merom chips will be out in August, so get ready to be sucked.


Mine is supposed to arrive on April 25th.
So, how's it been the last two weeks?

Multimedia
May 12, 2006, 03:15 AM
from xlr8yourmac.com. "Hi Mike, Just an update on my new 17" MBP 2GB 7200 100GB that came via FedEx this morning. First things first. Mac OS X performance and apps. Oh boy is this thing fast. My main computer is a G5 Dual 2.7GHz with 8GB ram and will be used as the comparison to the 17MBP.
Boot time to desktop:
Dual 2.7GHz G5: 36 sec
MacBook Pro 17inch: 8-11 sec (not a typo)

iDVD 30 min DV to DVD and burn:
Dual 2.7GHz G5: 36 min
MacBook Pro 17inch: 39 min

1080P trailer playback 3 movies simultaneous 24 FPS:
Dual 2.7GHz G5: 18 FPS
MacBook Pro 17inch: 10.4 FPS (QT crashed twice, but ran the 3rd time).

MS Word load 4000 pg document with photos 170MB: Dual 2.7GHz G5: 19.4 sec
MacBook Pro 17inch: 32 sec"How can this impress anyone? This report makes me NOT want a 17" MBP. It appears to me to be dog slow. Am I misreading something? :confused:

In the morning: Thank you for setting me straight Alden.

AidenShaw
May 12, 2006, 08:48 AM
How can this impress anyone? This report makes me NOT want a 17" MBP. It appears to me to be dog slow. Am I misreading something? :confused:
I think that it's pretty impressive that a laptop performs this well against a behemoth of a tower that has the fastest G5 chips that Apple has ever sold.

- much faster booting
- DVD encode *and* burn about 10% slower
- HD playback - WTF? 3 at once, I'd be much more interested in 1 at once
- about 2/3 the speed of the behemoth running emulated PowerPC code

Impressive. Not something to get one to immediately eBay the maxi-tower and get a laptop, but impressive.

neutrino23
May 12, 2006, 12:31 PM
Im sorry this is obligatory

http://anonym.jp/appleshop/img/img570_powerbook50top-small.jpg

And still no numeric keypad!!!!!


I checked out the 17" MBP at the Burlingame, CA Apple store last night. I pulled off the power cord, let it sit for a short time and checked the battery indicator. It showed 4 hours 20 minutes. My 15" 1.25 Al PB never showed more than 3:30.

gooberone
May 12, 2006, 07:18 PM
Just got mine today. Fedex came around 9:30 am and I was home but I didn't hear the doorbell ring and so I had to wait ALL day and pick it up at the fedex facility after 6pm. Talk about torture! LOL.

I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary. Not too hot and no whine. The screen is very nice. This is one big laptop, but I'm not complaining. :D I'm a new mac user so I'm trying to learn my way around the OS still, but so far everything looks good.

Anyways, it's a wonderful machine. Much, much better than my old crappy dell.

ModestPenguin
May 13, 2006, 03:44 PM
And still no numeric keypad!!!!!


I checked out the 17" MBP at the Burlingame, CA Apple store last night. I pulled off the power cord, let it sit for a short time and checked the battery indicator. It showed 4 hours 20 minutes. My 15" 1.25 Al PB never showed more than 3:30.


holy jesus that is amazing, now in reality theats like 2:45-3:15 but still wow im on a dell inspiron 8200 that needs a new battery so desperately that it lasts literally 10 minutes after being unplugged. Its rather amusing:rolleyes:

CubaTBird
May 13, 2006, 07:50 PM
my ibook still gets a good 5 hours with the brightness turned down to one..

okwhatev
Jun 2, 2006, 08:33 AM
The faster 64-bit Merom chips will be out in August, so get ready to be sucked.

I noted this. so......



So, how's it been the last two weeks?

My Macbook Pro 17" finally shipped the day I went and bought 2 (!) Macbook 2Ghz black models (as well as 7200RPM drives and 2GB RAN for each). It came out LESS then my maxed-out custom Macbook Pro. Apple was really great with everything and let me ship the Pro back. (I had called over 5 times about it...faced with shipping delays).

This should tide me over fine until the next Power Macs, or until Apple comes out with a lighter, smaller, faster model ;) (I still love my 12" Rev D Powerbook!)