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jive
May 16, 2006, 07:49 AM
I've never liked them, I much prefer my lovely iMac to my Uncle's MacBookPro (Or whatever it was called 5 months ago). I dont understand the appeal for laptops - everywhere you're going to have to use one either a) has a computer already there or b) it's a sign that you shouldn't be doing any work... Don't get me wrong, they look sweet and are very fast - I'm not denying that they are amazing machines.
Maybe it's just me but I can't be the only one who doesn't like laptops on here. Anyone else?
gauchogolfer
May 16, 2006, 07:53 AM
I'm in a Windows-centric environment at work, so the only way for me to work on a Mac is for me to bring my own. I can't afford to have an iMac at home and work, and I've not been lifting enough weights to carry one back and forth. When I go on vacations I take my PB with me so I can offload images from my digital camera. I guess I'm saying I like my laptop, and will likely have one as long as my employer is in a Windows environment (read: forever :rolleyes: ).
To each their own.
mad jew
May 16, 2006, 07:54 AM
They have their place, even if they don't suit you. :)
Oh, and I've never seen a sign telling me not to work...
Kreamy
May 16, 2006, 07:59 AM
Where I live (somewhere PAST the stone age) universities require laptops.
Laptops are undeniably much more convenient in terms of working on the go - you say there are computers everywhere, well when we're provided with computers that magically have our files on the morning commute, in university, at a cafe etc. then i'd be happy to get rid of my laptop, who needs the extreme hassle of, i dunno, plugging it in at night.
AFAIK the performance margin between laptops and desktops has fallen dramatically in the last few years, with no asymptote in sight; as such the advantages of a laptop are beginning to (or, in my eyes, already do) far outweigh the advantages of a desktop (namely price and performance).
If you manage without a laptop though, hey thats great, cheaper for you, but there certainly not without purpose.
jive
May 16, 2006, 08:00 AM
Oh, and I've never seen a sign telling me not to work...
This is the problem.
As soon as they work round the problem of cell phones working on the Underground (which already works in some stations in London) then people will be working 24/7. This isn't a good thing. People need to learn to work in a set time and not do crazy amounts of overtime.
You all work too hard. You need sometime to yourself.
mad jew
May 16, 2006, 08:00 AM
I've also never been told I work too hard. :D
I take my iBook to bed with me and it's strictly leisure.
Kreamy
May 16, 2006, 08:01 AM
This is the problem.
As soon as they work round the problem of cell phones working on the Underground (which already works in some stations in London) then people will be working 24/7. This isn't a good thing. People need to learn to work in a set time and not do crazy amounts of overtime.
You all work too hard. You need sometime to yourself.
I think it's we all procrastinate too much, and blight that with some pathetic fallacy of work.
jive
May 16, 2006, 08:02 AM
Where I live (somewhere PAST the stone age) universities require laptops.
Laptops are undeniably much more convenient in terms of working on the go - you say there are computers everywhere, well when we're provided with computers that magically have our files on the morning commute, in university, at a cafe etc.
If you manage without a laptop though, hey thats great, cheaper for you, but there certainly not without purpose.
1) Every Uni I've been to (visted/whatever) they've all been networked so you can save to any computer and open on any computer.
2) USB Memory sticks. And you need to stop working everywhere you go.
3) Thanks.
jive
May 16, 2006, 08:03 AM
I've also never been told I work too hard. :D
I take my iBook to bed with me and it's strictly leisure.
iMac + Front Row + Remote = Sleeptastic. :]
There isn't meant to be any malicious threatening in this thread, just my point of view.
gauchogolfer
May 16, 2006, 08:13 AM
1) Every Uni I've been to (visted/whatever) they've all been networked so you can save to any computer and open on any computer.
2) USB Memory sticks. And you need to stop working everywhere you go.
3) Thanks.
First off, I understand you're not trying to start a war here, but:
1.) Not everyone on this forum, and obviously in the larger Mac community at large, works/does their computing at a university. Networked computers (all Macs) located at one's home and place of work are extremely rare.
2.) Again, this assumes that all programs are available on all computers, since it's often not files that need transferring. If I want to work on a Keynote document, having it on a USB key does me no good in a Windows environment.
3.) No problem :)
I'm not trying to be harsh, but the rosy-colored world that would be necessary for this all to work out just doesn't exist. Until the entire world is networked with Macs that I can access from wherever I happen to be, I guess I'll be sticking with my Powerbook (or MBP :)). I'm looking forward to that day, though :cool: .
Cheers
kretzy
May 16, 2006, 08:16 AM
I think I'd die without my laptop. It's just so convenient for everything that I do. Admittedly I don't really do anything that heavy with mine, so I really have no need for the extra power of a desktop. In fact I'm sure that if I had a desktop as well it would probably collect dust. Each to their own though. :)
Kreamy
May 16, 2006, 08:37 AM
Isn't this the entire concept behind offering both laptops and desktops? where is the synergy? where is the love? *snicker*
discoforce
May 16, 2006, 10:29 AM
I take my iBook to bed with me and it's strictly leisure.
WAY too much information madjew! :eek:
My ideal setup would be the laptop for travel and convenience and the large external display, keyboard, and mouse to plug into at home.
The flexibility to get work done when I want actually allows me more time to play too! :D
Kreamy
May 16, 2006, 11:49 AM
I've also never been told I work too hard. :D
I take my iBook to bed with me and it's strictly leisure.
/me dies laughing
gerbilbox
May 17, 2006, 01:38 AM
To each his or her own. People have lots of reasons to not have a portable computer (liablility, reliability, expense, etc.), but there are many reasons to have one. It depends on the kind of person you are and what kind of work (or play) you do.
For me, sure, many places I go already have computers there, but does that mean that I can actually use it? Or that the files/programs I need are already installed on there? It's almost always a no to all those questions, and I study and work better outside of home, usually at a friend's apartment. They have computers there too, but they're not Macs, they would need to use their computers too, and their computers don't have some of the programs I need for homework or my photography (nor would they have my large library of RAW photo files). This is where owning my own portable computer comes in :)
SC68Cal
May 17, 2006, 01:46 AM
I place more importance on my desktop being powerful and having a small, battery conscious laptop for me to do work, read e-mail, or surf the internet. If I need more power, I'll wait until I get home
Jiddick ExRex
May 17, 2006, 03:51 AM
I felt the same way excactly 6 months ago. Then I started studying Computer Science and realising that I would never get any work done because I was also on the move, I ordered an iBook 14". After 2 weeks of getting used to it, I have a really hard time seeing how I should be able to go back to a desktop, because I really like the touchpad (less annoying mouse injuries) and I work smoking fast on the keyboard because it has small buttons and are close to eachother. Granted it did take some getting used to, now I hate typing and working on a desktop keyboard, it's just too darn slow.
This lead to my signature also, seeing as I would need a combination of a desktop/portable.
dpaanlka
May 17, 2006, 05:23 AM
I used to always had a very powerful laptop and no desktop. But desktops offer more power for less money. So now I have an even more powerful desktop, and a very un-powerful cheap laptop to take around.
mad jew
May 17, 2006, 05:25 AM
So now I have an even more powerful desktop, and a very un-powerful cheap laptop to take around.
Same. It's easily the best compromise for me. :cool:
mainframe
May 17, 2006, 06:54 AM
actually, i prefer notebooks to desktops.
i like my imac and i sit at my desk sometimes, but i prefer being able to take my computer everywhere i go, as an artist i like being able to chunk a notebook in my bag with a graphics tablet, and for music stuff too...using reason and a midi interface and being able to take that anywhere.....would be so annoying having to take big desktops everywhere for music stuff.
they both definately have their pros and cons...but personally, i prefer using, and own more notebooks than desktops.
adk
May 17, 2006, 08:06 AM
I like having my laptop for a few reasons:
1) Sitting outside with it on a rare nice day
2) Using it on airplanes/on vacation
3) When Friends call me begging me to fix their computers because I'm the only one who knows how, I bring my laptop with me to access the web while I'm reformatting their wretched XP machines.
Also, I see your valid point about computers everywhere at universities and whatnot, but I find it to be a huge PITA to try and save everything over the network.
dr_lha
May 17, 2006, 09:36 AM
I've never liked them, I much prefer my lovely iMac to my Uncle's MacBookPro (Or whatever it was called 5 months ago). I dont understand the appeal for laptops - everywhere you're going to have to use one either a) has a computer already there or b) it's a sign that you shouldn't be doing any work... Don't get me wrong, they look sweet and are very fast - I'm not denying that they are amazing machines.
Maybe it's just me but I can't be the only one who doesn't like laptops on here. Anyone else?
Have you ever owned a laptop? If not then laptop love is just one of those things you probably won't get until you use one daily. I love the fact that I can read my email on the couch, can cook food reading recipes off my laptop screen on the kitchen table, and most importantly can have my computer with me anywhere I travel.
My PB is broken right now (HD dead) and having to use my mini is instead is nice (much, much faster, 20" LCD), but much more restrictive.
devilot
May 17, 2006, 09:40 AM
Have you ever owned a laptop? If not then laptop love is just one of those things you probably won't get until you use one daily.Or, that person just enjoys using a desktop more.
I have both, a desktop and laptop and given the choice to which machine to use, I'll almost always pick my desktop.
If I had to sell or destroy one of them, the laptop would go.
dr_lha
May 17, 2006, 09:47 AM
Or, that person just enjoys using a desktop more.
I have both, a desktop and laptop and given the choice to which machine to use, I'll almost always pick my desktop.
If I had to sell or destroy one of them, the laptop would go.
Preferring a desktop is one thing, but the OP stated that he plain "did not like laptops" or did not understand the appeal of them. Sounds pretty much like someone who hasn't owned one to me.
Sdashiki
May 17, 2006, 09:54 AM
Not getting into personal preferences, a laptop vs a desktop IMO has more to do with WHAT you use it for.
Do you do digital video? Then you NEED a desktop.
Do you run around all over the place and need to work? Then you NEED a laptop.
Do you do any and all combinations of needing portability and expandability?
Then you need BOTH.
A laptop is not ever going to be as upgradeable as a full fledged desktop, and to each his own but cmon, you dont need a $3000 machine to type email.
dr_lha
May 17, 2006, 10:03 AM
Do you do digital video? Then you NEED a desktop.
Or a 17" MBP.
bbrosemer
May 17, 2006, 10:07 AM
I love my desktop .. Dual xeon's 2.8 ghz nvidia 7200 GPU and 4gb RAM but see the problem is its not a Mac... I have never used a Mac desktop but my 17'' MBP screams... I have yet to benchmark the 2 against one another in XP but it would also be unfair because the MBP is a fresh install of XP. That desktop can do anything it is an amazing computer. However the wires... The weight and the REALLY loud fans that I had to install with copper heat sinks are annoying as hell. I love my lightscribe DVD but I am glad to give that all up and would for my MBP, its that simple... Even with OS X on the xeon it is fun but just not the same.... O yea the X bench for my xeon's was 110.. If anyone was wondering so... Don't think that machine doesnt kick ass its just not my notebook that I love.
Sdashiki
May 17, 2006, 10:08 AM
Or a 17" MBP.
no, that still wont cut it.
Where are the full length PCI cards?
Where is the 4GB+ of RAM?
Where is the RAID setup?
among other things.
bbrosemer
May 17, 2006, 10:15 AM
no, that still wont cut it.
Where are the full length PCI cards?
Where is the 4GB+ of RAM?
Where is the RAID setup?
among other things.
Yeah because all those times that you run into the need for 4+gb of RAM i highly doubt that anyone here does that searious video editing to need that kind of performance otherwise they would go buy a G5... People use notebooks so that they can do work whenever they want to the last time I took my g5 on the train they thought it was a bomb. After a few hours of explanaing they said ok, then when I tried to plug in it wasnt drwaing enough current, so I said o well Ill just have to settle for my 2gb of ram that actually work!
Sdashiki
May 17, 2006, 10:17 AM
Dood, the point was that LAPTOPS vs DESKTOPS is a stupid arguement.
No one is saying you CANT do DV on a laptop, shame on you for thinking so.
But in reality, DV requires a desktop under certain circumstances, maybe not YOUR DV, but someones does.
bbrosemer
May 17, 2006, 10:24 AM
Dood, the point was that LAPTOPS vs DESKTOPS is a stupid arguement.
No one is saying you CANT do DV on a laptop, shame on you for thinking so.
But in reality, DV requires a desktop under certain circumstances, maybe not YOUR DV, but someones does.
OK OK i agree most people here me included dont need that power just if someone at say Pixar has to go on a business trip ill bet they will be taking a laptop and do minor editing the laptop is like the fix problems that you can until you get to your desktop solution. I agree this whole discussion is just a pointless matter of prefrence but, I know for me there is nothing like carrying around the MBP and making people's head's turn.
dr_lha
May 17, 2006, 10:24 AM
no, that still wont cut it.
Where are the full length PCI cards?
Where is the 4GB+ of RAM?
Fair point, still I know people who do video editing on 17" PBs. Maybe not movie work, but some TV stuff.
Where is the RAID setup?
Attached to your FW800 port?
Dagless
May 17, 2006, 10:29 AM
I've never liked them, I much prefer my lovely iMac to my Uncle's MacBookPro (Or whatever it was called 5 months ago). I dont understand the appeal for laptops - everywhere you're going to have to use one either a) has a computer already there or b) it's a sign that you shouldn't be doing any work... Don't get me wrong, they look sweet and are very fast - I'm not denying that they are amazing machines.
Maybe it's just me but I can't be the only one who doesn't like laptops on here. Anyone else?
I only use laptops these days. Our college have macs but they're not very fast, my PowerBook being about the same speed but with the added bonus of my personal and coursework files on hand anywhere I go. Frankly I don't see the point in desktops, except for the insanely powered PowerMac.
The battery thing is good too. During power cuts I can still work away, albeit without dual monitors. though that's pointless now since we installed a mini generator for such events.
And just being able to carry them around is great. even just for round the house. last summer I spent a lot of time sat on the trampoline outside, just getting the last drop of WiFi internet from the router.
dpaanlka
May 17, 2006, 11:50 AM
i highly doubt that anyone here does that searious video editing
you must not have been here very long... :eek:
bbrosemer
May 17, 2006, 11:55 AM
you must have been here very long... :eek:
Its always fun when people take comments out of context.;)
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