High Rate Of Bannings Recently [Archive]

lexus

Jun 20, 2006, 12:19 PM

devilot

Jun 20, 2006, 12:36 PM

People are given opportunities to respond to mods' inquiries and to change their behavior/ attitude prior to being banned. Reasons for banning? Um, not following forum rules. Period.

And that's not that many bannings really. :p

bousozoku

Jun 20, 2006, 12:38 PM

Moderators aren't supposed to discuss the issues with anyone but the person banned but basically it comes down to people being abusive.

Check the latest posts of each of those people. They will have broken the rules. You follow the rules, you aren't banned. It's that simple.

skoker

Jun 20, 2006, 12:58 PM

I have been part of this community for a couple of months now and through out that time there have been a couple of banning's a week but in the last week I have noticed alot of bannings. For example there is Macpastor, Technicolor, dndcomputers etc..

Why the sudden surge in banning people?

If this is a topic that should not be spoken about please delete this thread.

Thank you.

I'm not a mod but I could tell you why most of them were banned. (search!)

Macpastor: claimed scamming in MP with a dup account from a banned one

Technicolor: Personal attacks and ****-stirring related to the 50-cent thing

Dndcomputers: same as Macpastor.

lexus

Jun 20, 2006, 01:14 PM

Macpastor: claimed scamming in MP with a dup account from a banned one

What is MP?

WildCowboy

Jun 20, 2006, 01:15 PM

What is MP?

Marketplace

jelloshotsrule

Jun 20, 2006, 01:15 PM

marketplace forum

lexus

Jun 20, 2006, 01:32 PM

Ok thanks

jsw

Jun 20, 2006, 01:35 PM

Another thing of note is that not all bans are permanent. Some people are banned forever, and others are just given some time to <parental voice>think about what they did</parental voice>. The "Banned" text applies to both cases.

Doctor Q

Jun 20, 2006, 02:53 PM

lexus is correct that the number of banned members has increased over the last couple of months. However, the rate is actually much the same as it was all last year. For some reason, the early months of this year have had fewer of what I call spamvertisers (people who join to post an ad and link to a commercial site), and those constitute many of the bans.

Bans for other problems, such as for a member who continues to troll or post personal insults after being warned not to, have not increased or decreased noticeably.

Over time, the ever-increasing number of members at MacRumors and increased awareness of the site on the Mac web can be expected to produce more of all types of members, from the friendly and helpful ones we welcome to the spamvertisers we remove.

CanadaRAM

Jun 20, 2006, 02:58 PM

the spamvertisers we remove.
I love the smell of fried spammer in the morning. It smells like ..... Victory.

2nyRiggz

Jun 20, 2006, 03:20 PM

Technicolor: Personal attacks and ****-stirring related to the 50-cent thing

Damn she got banned.....i liked her...she had spunk...hope it was a 24hour ban.

Bless

clayj

Jun 20, 2006, 03:46 PM

I love the smell of fried spammer in the morning. It smells like ..... Victory.http://www.detritus.org/spam/skit.html

Metatron

Jun 20, 2006, 04:58 PM

I guess I am saying this at the risk of my own demise after being a forum member for years, but I kind of agreed with "tech" on the 50 cent issue, not any personal comments against people...of course. :p

tveric

Jun 20, 2006, 05:50 PM

It's a private site, and they're certainly allowed to ban whomever they want to ban. As users on the site, we have a choice - we can keep coming here, or decide that the moderators are out of control here and start frequenting other sites. It's totally up to the individual. If you don't like it here, fine, stop coming here. Easy, right?

That being said, if you've been here and other boards for any length of time, don't try to tell me that the banning here isn't really "that much" or "that many". It's a ridiculous claim. I challenge anyone to find a Mac-centric forum where the censorship and banning comes anywhere CLOSE to the lengths it takes place here. I also notice that people seem to be somewhat less-knowledgeable and less intelligent (on the AVERAGE - not picking on anyone in particlar here!) than on other Mac-centric boards. I don't know why that is, it's just the way it seems to be here.

sishaw

Jun 20, 2006, 05:52 PM

...and others are just given some time to <parental voice>think about what they did</parental voice>. The "Banned" text applies to both cases.

And when you mouse over it, the enclosed text is pronounced in such a voice-- and it flashes red!

(Humor, of course).

WildCowboy

Jun 20, 2006, 05:56 PM

The fact that there's a somewhat tighter rein on things is what keeps me coming back here...arn and the mods do a tremendous job of keeping the forums user-friendly, nearly spam-free, and a pleasant environment to visit.

As MR has grown, it has developed into much more than a Mac site, which may be why it appears that users are knowledgeable than elsewhere. There are an awful lot of people who come here for a wide range of discussion, and the Mac issues are a very minor part of it for them. And there's nothing wrong with that...it's what makes MR great.

I feel like MR also draws a large number of newbies with questions, as the relative size of the forums and breadth of discussion here makes them often come up near the top of Google searches.

amacgenius

Jun 20, 2006, 06:10 PM

and ****-stirring

Just be careful that you don't do something like that ;).

mkrishnan

Jun 20, 2006, 06:21 PM

Just be careful that you don't do something like that ;).

It doesn't smell as pungently if you don't stir it though! :(

amacgenius

Jun 20, 2006, 06:46 PM

It doesn't smell as pungently if you don't stir it though! :(

This is true :).

Applespider

Jun 20, 2006, 07:37 PM

I also notice that people seem to be somewhat less-knowledgeable and less intelligent (on the AVERAGE - not picking on anyone in particlar here!) than on other Mac-centric boards. I don't know why that is, it's just the way it seems to be here.

I find it far more pleasant that many forums out there - hence why there are more bannings from those who disrupt the applecart; not so much with their views but with their ways of expressing them.

I might give you less knowledgeable compared to places like the Mac Ach or Macosxhints but less intelligent? I'd disagree on that one for most of the regulars here. But since MR comes up pretty high on the list of Mac sites, I suspect we get more than our fair share of hit-and-runs who make particularly stupid comments on new hardware/software and are rarely seen again.

Heb1228

Jun 20, 2006, 07:45 PM

I don't know but I'm pretty happy about the most recent ban victim. Keep up the good work mods.

skoker

Jun 20, 2006, 09:31 PM

Fresh kill (and I'm not saying why on this one)

bousozoku

Jun 20, 2006, 09:34 PM

I find it far more pleasant that many forums out there - hence why there are more bannings from those who disrupt the applecart; not so much with their views but with their ways of expressing them.

I might give you less knowledgeable compared to places like the Mac Ach or Macosxhints but less intelligent? I'd disagree on that one for most of the regulars here. But since MR comes up pretty high on the list of Mac sites, I suspect we get more than our fair share of hit-and-runs who make particularly stupid comments on new hardware/software and are rarely seen again.

I'd say that most of the hit-and-runs come from other forums. I know of one that's moderated rather lightly, so it takes a lot of abuse before anything is done. Some of the other Mac forums are poorly attended and I'm not sure they have or need moderators at all.

Considering the number of active people during a day from anywhere in the world, things aren't so bad.

Still, I feel like I'm missing out on some of the action. :D

jsw

Jun 20, 2006, 09:34 PM

Still, I feel like I'm missing out on some of the action. :DWant to log on as me for a while? ;)

mad jew

Jun 20, 2006, 09:37 PM

The "Banned" text applies to both cases.

Would it be a good idea to differentiate the permanently banned from the temporarily banned maybe? :)

jsw

Jun 20, 2006, 09:42 PM

Would it be a good idea to differentiate the permanently banned from the temporarily banned maybe? :)
I wouldn't mind, but it's out of my control. From my lowly level, there's only one category: Banned. I'm not sure if it's even settable within vB.

mkrishnan

Jun 20, 2006, 09:43 PM

I wouldn't mind, but it's out of my control. From my lowly level, there's only one category: Banned. I'm not sure if it's even settable within vB.

I feel this devolving into a Monty Python sketch in 5...4...3...2...1! :o

clayj

Jun 20, 2006, 09:52 PM

I feel this devolving into a Monty Python sketch in 5...4...3...2...1! :oI already posted a link to the Spam sketch... ;)

Silencio

Jun 20, 2006, 10:01 PM

I prefer the well-rounded and convivial forum experience to those that are strictly on-topic and more retentive about it, but the added degree of openness places a greater burden on the mods to keep things in line.

I have been on forums where the mods and/or forum owners just didn't step up and apply discipline -- er, guidance -- in a consistent, visible way, which led the way to abuses and overdramatics that drove many regular contributors away. Some other forums just "disappear" bad threads or users, leaving everyone else to speculate or come up with wild theories about the disappearances, which harbors an even deeper feeling of paranoia and mistrust.

I really appreciate that the mods are visibly going about their work here, reinforcing the standards of the community. They communicate well, and that's the key.

TheMonarch

Jun 20, 2006, 10:09 PM

...Still, I feel like I'm missing out on some of the action. :D

Wait... Weren't you a mod?

...Or was I daydreaming again :confused:

bousozoku

Jun 20, 2006, 10:32 PM

Want to log on as me for a while? ;)

Sorry but I have to keep my standards. <ducks>

I remember a certain member asking me if I would let him log on as me. :D

Wait... Weren't you a mod?

...Or was I daydreaming again :confused:

I were but not now, though I could return to it temporarily, if you people need discipline. :eek:

Sirus The Virus

Jun 20, 2006, 10:33 PM

Can the gods be banned??

jsw

Jun 20, 2006, 10:33 PM

Sorry but I have to keep my standards. <ducks>Oh, I'm very random. People'd just think I was in one of my stricter moods. :)
Can the gods be banned??
As a lowly mod, I would never even try to find out....

sushi

Jun 21, 2006, 02:17 PM

Can the gods be banned??
Maybe by a Titan. :p :D

On a serious note, no idea about your question. Nor would I want to approach one of the gods and ask them.

iGav

Jun 21, 2006, 03:34 PM

so it takes a lot of abuse before anything is done.

just like the good old days of MacRumors. :p

redAPPLE

Jun 21, 2006, 03:38 PM

lexus For some reason, the early months of this year have had fewer of what I call spamvertisers (people who join to post an ad and link to a commercial site), and those constitute many of the bans.

sorry if i don't get it. if i say something like "look what i found guys... refurbished dell notebooks for 499 $ (points to link)" in a thread titled "g5 powerbooks out next tuesday"... that would get me banned?

or does it mean, pointing to less known (although one can argue with this) commercial site e.g. freeipod.com.

bousozoku

Jun 21, 2006, 03:48 PM

Can the gods be banned??

All I know is that you can't ban yourself when you're a moderator. :D

Would it be a good idea to differentiate the permanently banned from the temporarily banned maybe? :)

It is differentiated. You just can't tell...for that matter, I just can't tell anymore. :D

jelloshotsrule

Jun 21, 2006, 03:55 PM

sorry if i don't get it. if i say something like "look what i found guys... refurbished dell notebooks for 499 $ (points to link)" in a thread titled "g5 powerbooks out next tuesday"... that would get me banned?

or does it mean, pointing to less known (although one can argue with this) commercial site e.g. freeipod.com.

no, but if you register a username, and only put commercial links in your post, then that's going to get you banned. it's not illegal to post a link to a good deal you found on amazon or dell.com or whatever...

Doctor Q

Jun 21, 2006, 04:21 PM

Can the gods be banned??I am hesitant to have another administrator temporarily ban me to see what happens, in case it messes up something else as a side effect. So we won't try it "for the sake of knowledge" and we'll just have to stay curious.

However, if arn doesn't like an administrator's work, he can certainly demote them to a non-admin moderator, to a regular member, or boot them out completely.

mkrishnan

Jun 21, 2006, 05:24 PM

All I know is that you can't ban yourself when you're a moderator. :D

Well, so *that's* why you're not a moderator anymore! :eek: ;) :D

szark

Jun 21, 2006, 05:42 PM

I wouldn't mind, but it's out of my control. From my lowly level, there's only one category: Banned. I'm not sure if it's even settable within vB.

So, what's the difference between banned and banished (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=26363)?

WildCowboy

Jun 21, 2006, 05:45 PM

So, what's the difference between banned and banished (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=26363)?

This was discussed about six months ago (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=171113) with no input from any knowledgeable people...it's still an open question.

bousozoku

Jun 21, 2006, 05:48 PM

So, what's the difference between banned and banished (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=26363)?

ish replaces n. ;) Some people get the V.I.P. treatment.

WildCowboy

Jun 21, 2006, 05:51 PM

Some people get the V.I.P. treatment.

BanVIPed? :p

trainguy77

Jun 21, 2006, 05:56 PM

This was discussed about six months ago (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=171113) with no input from any knowledgeable people...it's still an open question.
I think epepper9 was right in that thread. Bannished would mean the IP as well as the email. At least it makes sense. No idea if its right or not.:o

szark

Jun 21, 2006, 07:13 PM

This was discussed about six months ago (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=171113) with no input from any knowledgeable people...it's still an open question.

Yes, I read that thread before I posted, because I couldn't remember if any definitive answer was given.

After skimming through the vBulletin site and documentation, it doesn't seem to be a default software option.

Of course, epepper9's guess is the logical one.

skoker

Jun 22, 2006, 10:42 AM

Josh

Jun 22, 2006, 10:49 AM

Heh...I do my fair share of "****-stirring" :o

Not intentional, mind you. But knowing that it is a bannable offense....*sets stirrer down and walks away* :)

macEfan

Jun 22, 2006, 11:03 AM

yet another ban??
http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=58297 :o

heh "uses search function, types in banned, get 1,500 results"

Flowbee

Jun 22, 2006, 11:20 AM

I find it far more pleasant that many forums out there - hence why there are more bannings from those who disrupt the applecart; not so much with their views but with their ways of expressing them.

I might give you less knowledgeable compared to places like the Mac Ach or Macosxhints but less intelligent? I'd disagree on that one for most of the regulars here. But since MR comes up pretty high on the list of Mac sites, I suspect we get more than our fair share of hit-and-runs who make particularly stupid comments on new hardware/software and are rarely seen again.

I also think people feel more comfortable posting their "newbie" questions here in large part due to the pleasant atmosphere, which explains why the MR community may seem less knowledgeable in general... newbie discussion is a lot more welcome here than at those other boards. It's a great way to build a loyal community.

MacNut

Jun 22, 2006, 11:24 AM

mkrishnan

Jun 22, 2006, 11:26 AM

I also think people feel more comfortable posting their "newbie" questions here in large part due to the pleasant atmosphere, which explains why the MR community may seem less knowledgeable in general... newbie discussion is a lot more welcome here than at those other boards. It's a great way to build a loyal community.

With respect to help request threads and problem solving, I've found that when I search for solutions to problems, I find relevant threads already exist on MacOSXhints slightly more often than here. But then the relevant threads there are very hard to follow and understand. When I find a thread here, it's usually very helpful either in clearly explaining a solution or identifying that there isn't one. But then again (erm, I don't want this to sound snobbish...) I think most of the time when I search the questions I am asking are not in the noob territory. And also more often than not they're not that amenable to solutions.... :(

jsw

Jun 22, 2006, 11:30 AM

Can we have MacRumors court, the banned can plead there case in front of a panel of members and they get to decide there fate. The Mods can be the prosecutors and a defense attorney can be assigned.:cool:
We already have that. We ban 'em, and they can appeal to arn. :)

It works pretty well. Let me know if you'd like to try out the system. ;)

skoker

Jun 22, 2006, 11:37 AM

yet another ban??
http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=58297 :o

heh "uses search function, types in banned, get 1,500 results"

This couldn't have helped him much:

Your dentist is talking out of his asshat (...)

mkrishnan

Jun 22, 2006, 01:03 PM

This couldn't have helped him much:

Agreed...a person can be an ass hat, but how can they talk out of one? :eek: :o

Blue Velvet

Jun 22, 2006, 01:07 PM

This couldn't have helped him much:

You know what? I don't think we should talk about individual people's bannings.

Those in glass houses...

Macaddicttt

Jun 22, 2006, 01:35 PM

You know what? I don't think we should talk about individual people's bannings.

Those in glass houses...

Aww... And I was just going to bring up a recent banning that most people would find interesting, but I think went under most people's radar...

JRM PowerPod

Jun 22, 2006, 01:38 PM

Can Arn be banned?

Macaddicttt

Jun 22, 2006, 01:40 PM

Can Arn be banned?

I believe that question is akin to "Can Jesus microwave a borrito to be so hot, He Himself cannot eat it?"

The answer is yes, but He could still eat it. It's hard on the brain...

jsw

Jun 22, 2006, 01:56 PM

Can Arn be banned?
Yes, Arn can be banned. But only if both Chuck Norris and Jack Bauer defeat him in hand-to-hand combat.

By the way, speculating that Arn could lose to either Chuck Norris or Jack Bauer is a bannable offense.

calculus

Jun 22, 2006, 01:57 PM

WildCowboy

Jun 22, 2006, 02:02 PM

Well, I'm intrigued by the whole issue of banning. I don't want to go into specifics but I have seen threads where, in my understanding of 'the rules', almost every other poster should have been banned. I've also seen some personal insults go 'unpunished' - I guess it depends whether anyone complains or not. I think it can be very subjective and down to who's about at the time. That said, nothing's perfect and on the whole I think that things are handled well here.

The mods strive for a consistent application of the forum policies, but that is of course impossible to achieve in practice. They do come pretty darn close though. If you see personal insults, by all means report it...I do. The mods can't look at every post; they need the assistance of members like you to draw their attention to problem areas.

jsw

Jun 22, 2006, 02:04 PM

Well, I'm intrigued by the whole issue of banning. I don't want to go into specifics but I have seen threads where, in my understanding of 'the rules', almost every other poster should have been banned. I've also seen some personal insults go 'unpunished' - I guess it depends whether anyone complains or not. I think it can be very subjective and down to who's about at the time. That said, nothing's perfect and on the whole I think that things are handled well here.
Actually, most times it does come down to what was reported. We don't read all posts in all threads, and so we rely upon the membership to report questionable posts. Sometimes we see nothing wrong with them, sometimes we edit or delete the posts, and/or sometimes we PM or ban members as a result.

It is rare for a non-newbie-spammer to get a permanent ban, especially with the first rule break, but it happens. It all comes down to (a) severity of the violation, (b) prior history of the member, and, to a degree, (c) how lenient the mod feels at the time.

Edit: or just see Cowboy's post above...

calculus

Jun 22, 2006, 02:49 PM

Is the advice any different if one believes that a moderator is posting inappropriately?

Flowbee

Jun 22, 2006, 02:52 PM

By the way, speculating that Arn could lose to either Chuck Norris or Jack Bauer is a bannable offense.

*flowbee quickly edits his MR fan fiction*

...whew...

bousozoku

Jun 22, 2006, 03:00 PM

Is the advice any different if one believes that a moderator is posting inappropriately?

You should report anything inappropriate, regardless of the person posting.

Applespider

Jun 22, 2006, 03:35 PM

I don't want to go into specifics but I have seen threads where, in my understanding of 'the rules', almost every other poster should have been banned. I've also seen some personal insults go 'unpunished' - I guess it depends whether anyone complains or not. .

There may be cases where personal insults are edited out but the poster isn't banned - perhaps because it's a first offense, perhaps because it was pretty minor.

And it's always possible that what looks like an insult might be some jibing between members who know each other well rather than truly insulting
The Community forum is slightly more lax than the others in terms of the 'sense' of the posts in there.

Doctor Q

Jun 22, 2006, 03:36 PM

Is the advice any different if one believes that a moderator is posting inappropriately? bousozoku is correct. We depend on reports for most moderation. If you need a personal reply about a complaint, send a Private Message to a specific moderator or administrator or e-mail directly to arn. Otherwise, the Report Bad Post http://forums.macrumors.com/images/buttons/report.gif feature is the way to let us know what's bugging you. Every single report is considered, and action is always taken when it is judged to be warranted.

jsw

Jun 22, 2006, 04:08 PM

Is the advice any different if one believes that a moderator is posting inappropriately?
I know I've been reported before, although that particular report was the result of... other things. However, yes, by all means report any posts you feel are inappropriate.

For what it's worth, all mods/gods can see all post reports, so, if you would rather not alert someone that they've been reported, feel free, as Doctor Q mentioned, to PM/email a specific moderator.

skoker

Jun 22, 2006, 05:19 PM

I know I've been reported before, although that particular report was the result of... other things. However, yes, by all means report any posts you feel are inappropriate.

For what it's worth, all mods/gods can see all post reports, so, if you would rather not alert someone that they've been reported, feel free, as Doctor Q mentioned, to PM/email a specific moderator.

As another little tidbit, if you've got something that needs to be looked at/taken care of quickly, you can go HERE:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showgroups.php

and see what 'macrumors Demi-God (moderator)' and 'macrumors God' s are online at the time. It's no use PM'ing a mod who won't get your message for another 12 hours :p

calculus

Jun 22, 2006, 05:23 PM

All - thanks for all the tips. I hope I never have to use them!

MacNut

Jun 22, 2006, 05:49 PM

As another little tidbit, if you've got something that needs to be looked at/taken care of quickly, you can go HERE:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showgroups.php

and see what 'macrumors Demi-God (moderator)' and 'macrumors God' s are online at the time. It's no use PM'ing a mod who won't get your message for another 12 hours :pI see some new Mods, when did this come about.

WildCowboy

Jun 22, 2006, 05:53 PM

I see some new Mods, when did this come about.

jsw and longofest were Mod-ified on April 28th.

commonpeople

Jun 22, 2006, 06:39 PM

WildCowboy

Jun 22, 2006, 06:44 PM

I don't see why Technicolor was banned. He/She was mostly arguing with me at the end, but I don't personally feel that he stepped over the mark into direct name-calling. I even admit that he/she had some valid viewpoints to bring to the discussion even if I mostly disagreed with him/her.

I'm not saying anything specific happened, but we don't know all of the details that contributed to the banning. For example, there may have been some back-and-forth between technicolor and the mods via PMs that made it clear that a banning was appropriate. Again, not saying that that happened, but it's an example of an instance in which only the people who decided on the banning know the full story.

bousozoku

Jun 22, 2006, 07:06 PM

I'm not saying anything specific happened, but we don't know all of the details that contributed to the banning. For example, there may have been some back-and-forth between technicolor and the mods via PMs that made it clear that a banning was appropriate. Again, not saying that that happened, but it's an example of an instance in which only the people who decided on the banning know the full story.

It's certainly a possibility. All kinds of things happen that aren't seen. Anything terribly objectionable no longer appears.

It's not as though someone arrives, argues a little, and is banned. Somehow, the situation isn't able to be resolved when a person is banned.

commonpeople

Jun 22, 2006, 07:25 PM

Thanks to the two Demigods above for your answers.

sushi

Jun 22, 2006, 11:00 PM

It's not as though someone arrives, argues a little, and is banned.
And I think that makes it a community/family if you will.

The mods do a good job keeping order without suppressing the free flow of ideas -- a fine line to walk at times. They do it very well.

bousozoku

Jun 22, 2006, 11:16 PM

And I think that makes it a community/family if you will.

The mods do a good job keeping order without suppressing the free flow of ideas -- a fine line to walk at times. They do it very well.

They certainly do.

Mudbug

Jun 22, 2006, 11:19 PM

often times you noticed the "banned" moniker during the 24 or 48 hour period it's there and don't notice the time when it's not there. I'm looking into some ways of putting folks in "time out" instead of banning so you'd see that instead. Unfortunately for now, they're the same thing, but with term limits.

Generally speaking, most folks that get a temp boot are aware they did something, get a quick note about why, and the temp ban notice tells them (typically) how long they've got in time out until they're allowed to post again.

Normally a short-term time-out is put in place simply to cool off an escalating argument between two members. It works better than posting "stop it."

I think this dead horse has been beaten enough now...
Mud

(and thanks for the kind words back there. ;))

AppleMatt

Jun 23, 2006, 09:04 AM

...lots of words...

I like your new avatar, only just noticed that.

AppleMatt

mkrishnan

Jun 23, 2006, 09:38 AM

Mudbug, kudos for the great job you always do. :)

I like the use of "Time Out." Or maybe Penalty Box? :D And also we could throw octopi on the forum right before Expo every year. :)

sunfast

Jun 23, 2006, 09:50 AM

I like the use of "Time Out." Or maybe Penalty Box?

I reckon it should say "sin bin" instead of banned for the temporary ones

mkrishnan

Jun 23, 2006, 10:01 AM

I reckon it should say "sin bin" instead of banned for the temporary ones

LOL...more euphemisms.... "went blind," "hairy knuckles," "If it hadn't been for Cotton-Eyed Joe"... :D

sushi

Jun 23, 2006, 11:32 AM

often times you noticed the "banned" moniker during the 24 or 48 hour period it's there and don't notice the time when it's not there. I'm looking into some ways of putting folks in "time out" instead of banning so you'd see that instead. Unfortunately for now, they're the same thing, but with term limits.
I like the use of something besides "banned" for those who who have a 24/48 hour period that they cannot post.

Something like "Time Out" or "Penalty Box" sounds good.

I think this dead horse has been beaten enough now...
Understand your point, but I would suggest that discussion such as this is good once in a while, both for long time members as well as for the newbies.

QCassidy352

Jun 23, 2006, 11:39 AM

hopefully not too off topic... I thought that it used to be that Arn was the only "god" and that all admins and mods were just "demi-gods" with a "moderator" tag.

Or have admins always been "gods?"

skoker

Jun 23, 2006, 12:01 PM

hopefully not too off topic... I thought that it used to be that Arn was the only "god" and that all admins and mods were just "demi-gods" with a "moderator" tag.

Or have admins always been "gods?"

Arn and Doctor Q have always been 'gods' AFAIK.

iGary

Jun 23, 2006, 12:09 PM

Arn and Doctor Q have always been 'gods' AFAIK.

Doctor Q just went to MR heaven recently, Smoker-san. ;)

~Shard~

Jun 23, 2006, 12:13 PM

Arn and Doctor Q have always been 'gods' AFAIK.

Actually you're incorrect, Doctor Q was only recently made a God. :cool:

skoker

Jun 23, 2006, 12:19 PM

Actually you're incorrect, Doctor Q was only recently made a God. :cool:

My bad then

Applespider

Jun 23, 2006, 12:21 PM

Arn and Doctor Q have always been 'gods' AFAIK.

But Mudbug has been a god for as long as I can remember...

whocares

Jun 23, 2006, 12:59 PM

I believe arn and blakespot are the 2 original gods of MR. ;)

MacNut

Jun 23, 2006, 01:12 PM

How often are the Mods rotated or added. Is there a set cycle and what qualifies one to be worthy of the all powerful scepter.

Josh

Jun 23, 2006, 01:33 PM

I reckon it should say "sin bin" instead of banned for the temporary ones

I prefer:

"In the corner"

jelloshotsrule

Jun 23, 2006, 01:43 PM

I believe arn and blakespot are the 2 original gods of MR. ;)

yup.

moderators are different from gods, who can also publish stories, etc... and administer the site itself, and probably a few other differences.

arn is certainly THE god though. the one who can cook a burrito so hot that even he can't eat it. oh wait..

MacNut

Jun 23, 2006, 01:52 PM

yup.

moderators are different from gods, who can also publish stories, etc... and administer the site itself, and probably a few other differences.

arn is certainly THE god though. the one who can cook a burrito so hot that even he can't eat it. oh wait..In other words its arn's house we are just renting a guest room.

Salasm

Jun 23, 2006, 01:56 PM

Where can I go to apply to become a macrumors god?

bousozoku

Jun 23, 2006, 01:59 PM

But Mudbug has been a god for as long as I can remember...

It seems to me it was around the time of WWDC 2003 that he was made Editor and about a year later, when he became a God.

skoker

Jun 23, 2006, 01:59 PM

Where can I go to apply to become a macrumors god?

You can't- and by asking you've just doomed yourself.

*However* If you'd like to become a MR *Demi-God*, please see http://forums.macrumors.com/payments.php

Mudbug

Jun 23, 2006, 02:08 PM

It seems to me it was around the time of WWDC 2003 that he was made Editor and about a year later, when he became a God.

Congrats - you win the gold star. :)

Understand your point, but I would suggest that discussion such as this is good once in a while, both for long time members as well as for the newbies.

which is why we're letting this one continue. This is so far the healthiest discussion about it I've seen - no pointing fingers, calling names, or other unpleasantries. Thanks to everyone for keeping a civil discussion - usually this topic tends to go downhill fast.

jelloshotsrule

Jun 23, 2006, 02:08 PM

In other words its arn's house we are just renting a guest room.

renting for free, for some of us. ;) not a bad deal!

xsedrinam

Jun 23, 2006, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by bousozoku
It seems to me it was around the time of WWDC 2003 that he was made Editor and about a year later, when he became a God.
Congrats - you win the gold star. :)
You mean you haven't always just like sort of.... existed?

skoker

Jun 23, 2006, 02:59 PM

You mean you haven't always just like sort of.... existed?

Is that Bill Cosby?

Josh

Jun 23, 2006, 03:00 PM

renting for free, for some of us. ;) not a bad deal!

Arn is an awesome landlord. Infact, he is the landlord of landlords.

sushi

Jun 23, 2006, 07:00 PM

Arn is an awesome landlord. Infact, he is the landlord of landlords.
Yep, it's a fun house to visit for sure! :)

Doctor Q

Jun 23, 2006, 09:00 PM

I looked in some big dusty history books at the local library and found a notation made in calligraphy by an ancient scribe, showing that I was promoted to be an administrator way back in November 2005. I think it was a reward for going on vacation for a month and leaving everyone alone for a change.

Of course, once I was promoted, I had all of the history books rewritten.

technicolor

Jun 27, 2006, 12:09 PM

I'm not saying anything specific happened, but we don't know all of the details that contributed to the banning. For example, there may have been some back-and-forth between technicolor and the mods via PMs that made it clear that a banning was appropriate. Again, not saying that that happened, but it's an example of an instance in which only the people who decided on the banning know the full story.
Well even I dont know why I was banned. I never received a pm from a mod, I just tried to log on and I got a message saying I needed to take a break. I sent an email and there was no reply. Funny to I was logging on to see how to donate....

*shrugs

Mr. Anderson

Jun 27, 2006, 12:12 PM

Well even I dont know why I was banned.

Well, its best to take this up with the mods and not make a public issue of it. I don't know who banned you, but contact Q or Mudbug via PM and you'll get your answer.

I think this thread has run its course - if anyone has any questions about site management, take it up with the mods/gods.

Thanks,

D