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nbs2
Jul 13, 2006, 06:59 AM
I just wanted to share a picture of our baby with you all. To clarify, her head is just north of the crosshairs and her heart is just southeast....

katie ta achoo
Jul 13, 2006, 07:05 AM
Oo! I can see her!

You can tell the gender at this point, or are you just using a pronoun?

Congrats! :D

DJMastaWes
Jul 13, 2006, 07:17 AM
I'm not sure if I understand where she is... But is it where ths + is? All curled up there in the corner?

mad jew
Jul 13, 2006, 08:30 AM
Congratulations. She's got lovely shoulders...



...Or knees. I can't tell which, but they're lovely. :)

PlaceofDis
Jul 13, 2006, 08:36 AM
awwww!

congrats on the baby.

adorable picture. :D

Abstract
Jul 13, 2006, 08:46 AM
Congratulations. She's got lovely shoulders...



...Or knees. I can't tell which, but they're lovely. :)
She has definitely got nice static.

devilot
Jul 13, 2006, 09:20 AM
Oo! I can see her!That's how I feel. :o I usually can't see what everyone claims they can see... but this time, I can seeee!

Congrats you two!

2nyRiggz
Jul 13, 2006, 10:50 AM
Congrats man...wow she has her mothers nose:)


Bless

mjstew33
Jul 13, 2006, 12:00 PM
That is awesome... I can't wait to have a child.

Gonna be a while, since I am only 14. :o

Phat Elvis
Jul 13, 2006, 03:17 PM
Nice tail.

mattcube64
Jul 13, 2006, 03:52 PM
That is awesome... I can't wait to have a child.

Gonna be a while, since I am only 14. :o

WTF?! :confused: :eek: ;) :p

lol

iTwitch
Jul 13, 2006, 03:56 PM
Congratulations, great start to a photo album.

benthewraith
Jul 13, 2006, 03:57 PM
I just wanted to share a picture of our baby with you all. To clarify, her head is just north of the crosshairs and her heart is just southeast....

Congratulations. :)

celebrian23
Jul 13, 2006, 04:06 PM
I so don't see a baby. It's so freaking annoying! I keep looking but all I see are black and white swooshes.

puckhead193
Jul 13, 2006, 04:10 PM
That is awesome... I can't wait to have a child.

Gonna be a while, since I am only 14. :o

After "work" today i definitly can wait to have kids :rolleyes:

OutThere
Jul 13, 2006, 04:11 PM
Congratulations. She's got lovely shoulders...

As does someone else on MR...

http://www.drien.com/macrumors/basics/shifty_eyes_small.gif

Melkor
Jul 13, 2006, 06:46 PM
Aw that's cool.

zelmo
Jul 13, 2006, 06:51 PM
That's awesome. This is such an exciting time for you two. I'll never forget sitting next to my wife, looking at Nathan on the screen for the first time and, later, hearing his heart beating for the first time. He looked like a little peanut with two arm-shaped thingies. Still does:p :eek:

So cool. It will make a great cover for an Apple iPhoto book commemorating the event. Not that I'm drumming up bidness or anything.;)

Blue Velvet
Jul 13, 2006, 06:52 PM
Something is very wrong... where's the Apple?








http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37190




;)

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=2019753&postcount=1

nbs2
Jul 13, 2006, 07:07 PM
Oo! I can see her!

You can tell the gender at this point, or are you just using a pronoun?
Using what I figure is the right pronoun for right now. I'm not a big fan of calling a baby "it" (I know it would bother me if someone called me an it), and since we all start off as females until the Y gets off its duff and starts doing its job, until I know otherwise, she is a she.

I should clarify that this is the 8 week ultrasound, not the more common 20 week. For folks that can't see her, she's real small (actual size=16mm or 0.052493438 feet) and in the middle of the picture. Looks like a small shrimp. Maybe a kidney bean for the vegetarians. :)

So cool. It will make a great cover for an Apple iPhoto book commemorating the event. Not that I'm drumming up bidness or anything.;)
Hey, at 52.22/share, they (and thus my portfolio) need all the help they can get. I'm torn though - I'm guessing you did one for Nathan (or does he go by Nate?), do I use this, the 20 week ultra, or the just after she's born for the cover?

EricNau
Jul 13, 2006, 07:27 PM
Using what I figure is the right pronoun for right now. I'm not a big fan of calling a baby "it" (I know it would bother me if someone called me an it), and since we all start off as females until the Y gets off its duff and starts doing its job, until I know otherwise, she is a she.

I should clarify that this is the 8 week ultrasound, not the more common 20 week. For folks that can't see her, she's real small (actual size=16mm or 0.052493438 feet) and in the middle of the picture. Looks like a small shrimp. Maybe a kidney bean for the vegetarians. :)
You won't call your baby "it" but you are willing to relate her to a shrimp or kidney bean? :p ;)

Anyway, Congratulations! :)

sushi
Jul 13, 2006, 07:29 PM
I just wanted to share a picture of our baby with you all. To clarify, her head is just north of the crosshairs and her heart is just southeast....
The beginning of a new life! Cool. :)

w_parietti22
Jul 13, 2006, 07:34 PM
Thats awesome!!! :D
Congratulations!

amateurmacfreak
Jul 13, 2006, 08:31 PM
That is awesome... I can't wait to have a child.

Gonna be a while, since I am only 14. :o
I totally know what you mean! :eek: I'm 13, and the maternal instincts are already kicking in. There were a few days when all I was thinking about was how I could raise a kid. And... I don't want to do that unti I get out of school, that, gulp, with my current aspirations will probably be quite well into my 20s..... :o (I want a PhD in psychology or somethin' and perhaps an MD...)
It mostly gets started when I see people treating their children badly. Telling them to shut up or to get their butt over there. :mad:
The depressing thing is.... if I have a career in science that is strenuous.... I don't know how much time I will have to be a mom. Maybe my husband will have a more creative, flexible career...
I've been raised in a family of creative people in the music buisness so my whole life I've been used to my mom and dad normally not having commitents... and my dad often sleeping far after I wake up for school. :)

Anyways... CONGRATULATIONS! It must be such an exciting time of your life. :) I hope you have a wonderful life with you kid... But I guess we still have a fair amount of time before he or she is born. :)

nbs2
Jul 13, 2006, 09:00 PM
The depressing thing is.... if I have a career in science that is strenuous.... I don't know how much time I will have to be a mom. Maybe my husband will have a more creative, flexible career...
I've been raised in a family of creative people in the music buisness so my whole life I've been used to my mom and dad normally not having commitents... and my dad often sleeping far after I wake up for school. :)

Anyways... CONGRATULATIONS! It must be such an exciting time of your life. :) I hope you have a wonderful life with you kid... But I guess we still have a fair amount of time before he or she is born. :)
I understand what you mean. I don't expect I will have a whole lot of flexibility doing the law thing (if I can ever find a job), but Lori works from home (telecommuting is a wonderful thing) so it will be a little better than it could have been. I'm hoping to get a bit more flexible as things go on and be able to spend more time with her.

puckhead193
Jul 13, 2006, 09:07 PM
I totally know what you mean! :eek: I'm 13, and the maternal instincts are already kicking in.
you should work at a camp. You're only with the kids for the day.... and at night your free ;)

mad jew
Jul 13, 2006, 09:26 PM
You know, I only just worked out where the bits are... :o

I thought the baby was that black tadpole-shaped thing but actually (s)he's the baby-shaped thing inside the tadpole. I didn't wanna say anything before because I thought you guys might be getting some sorta frog species instead of the regulation-human. Ahh well, it coulda been fun but I'm happy for you that you'll be gettin' a humanoid. :cool:

atszyman
Jul 13, 2006, 10:22 PM
I so don't see a baby. It's so freaking annoying! I keep looking but all I see are black and white swooshes.

You need to cross your eyes and look through the picture....

Congratulations nbs2, and floriflee. I'm going to offer one nifty piece of advice we did when we were pregnant (and will probably do again).

Figure out where you will be buying most of your baby supplies (diapers, wipes, etc). As soon as you can get a gift card and go every week or so and add to it. We tried to keep up at $20/week. By the end of the pregnancy you will have a nice little gift card saved up for incidentals so it's not nearly as much of a financial shock. If you are really disciplined you can do the same with your savings account and earn interest on the money, but we didn't quite trust ourselves that much...

vniow
Jul 13, 2006, 11:48 PM
and since we all start off as females until the Y gets off its duff and starts doing its job, until I know otherwise, she is a she.

That's not actually true, a baby is sexless until it reaches a certain point. The same tissue is used to create both sets of organs.

Congratulations in any case, no matter which gender the child ends up. ;)

ham_man
Jul 13, 2006, 11:55 PM
That's not actually true, a baby is sexless until it reaches a certain point. The same tissue is used to create both sets of organs.

Congratulations in any case, no matter which gender the child ends up. ;)
Wouldn't it be determined upon fertilization...? I mean the sperm can either carry an X or a Y. Right? :confused:

CompUser
Jul 13, 2006, 11:56 PM
Congratulations on your child. Do you have a name for her yet?

She's so cute.


40 Year old virgin quote:
"It looks like the doppler radar"

iShane
Jul 13, 2006, 11:58 PM
It took me a while to find where it was but then I glanced at your avatar and then back at your picture and I found it. Congrats! :)

vniow
Jul 14, 2006, 12:45 AM
Wouldn't it be determined upon fertilization...? I mean the sperm can either carry an X or a Y. Right? :confused:

...and that's where it gets complicated.

I should have mentioned external sexual characteristics. There's three kinds, hormonal, physical and chromosomal. The last is determined at fertilisation which can only be detected by actually testing a cell from the fetus, the middle is determined by several factors, most of which are a combination of the first and the last but not completely. The first characteristic is a combo of the second and third.

Its not quite a simple as a sperm carrying an X or a Y chromosome. While in most cases everything matches up its more often than people would think that it doesn't.

As far as physical features go, aside from chomosomal makeup, their form is sexless, resembling neither form of genetalia. That comes later when tissues and organs grow and changes as the months progress. In adulthood they're suprisingly similar. Pretty much everything has its counterpart on the other gender, its just a matter of where its placed. Its no shock really, they're formed from the same original tissues. They simply grew differently.

OutThere
Jul 14, 2006, 12:48 AM
That's not actually true, a baby is sexless until it reaches a certain point. The same tissue is used to create both sets of organs.

Congratulations in any case, no matter which gender the child ends up. ;)

Sorry...that's wrong.

It might be impossible to tell visually, without a DNA test, however the first cell created upon fertilization/conception is predetermined to be a man/woman.

Because women have two X chromosomes, and eggs are produced by taking 23 (half) of the 46 total chromosomes that make up the human genome, women can only contribute an X chromosome in their eggs. Men have X and Y sex chromosomes, therefore each sperm contains either an X or a Y. This pairs with the egg's X to form X+X or X+Y, boy or girl. These chromosomes are present in the first cell (the zygote).

Therefore, given the appropriate technology, you'd be able to tell the sex of your baby extremely quickly after conception.

edit: above was written while I was writing this...but my point is still the same. And while external sexual characteristics are invisible at that time, the sex chromosomes play an undeniably immense role in the formation, growth and life of humans. Unknown to many, hundreds of disorders are sex-linked, affecting only those with the right sex chromosomes...

vniow
Jul 14, 2006, 01:01 AM
edit: above was written while I was writing this...but my point is still the same. And while external sexual characteristics are invisible at that time, the sex chromosomes play an undeniably immense role in the formation, growth and life of humans. Unknown to many, hundreds of disorders are sex-linked, affecting only those with the right sex chromosomes...

No argument there. My point was that we don't start off as one gender or the other as far as tissues go and that physical characteristics are not always a determining factor. Neither are chromosomes for that matter as evidenced by this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#Biological_causes_of_intersexuality) Its important to know that there are far more variations (http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency) of bodies and chromosomes that we're generally told.

OutThere
Jul 14, 2006, 01:41 AM
No argument there. My point was that we don't start off as one gender or the other as far as tissues go and that physical characteristics are not always a determining factor. Neither are chromosomes for that matter as evidenced by this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#Biological_causes_of_intersexuality) Its important to know that there are far more variations (http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency) of bodies and chromosomes that we're generally told.

It is true that there are chromosomal abnormalities/variations...XXX, XXY XYY etc.

Keep in mind that they are, on the whole, quite rare. 1 in 1,000-50,000 depending on the combination.

OnceUGoMac
Jul 14, 2006, 01:49 AM
Congrats.

Chappers
Jul 14, 2006, 02:44 AM
Congratulations.

It only seems like yesterday that my wife and I were in your position...... in fact it was a year ago. Our son Bora is now 4 months old and is 2ft 3inches tall and growing fast. He has a passport. Laughs aloud constantly (better than crying) and his best friend is a mutant ninja turtle sock (don't ask).

He has lots of clothes he grew out of as soon as he got them and luckily a big bag of gold coins from his family in Turkey where it is a tradition to buy gold for babies instead of clothes. A fine tradition I say.

nbs2
Jul 14, 2006, 06:53 AM
He has lots of clothes he grew out of as soon as he got them and luckily a big bag of gold coins from his family in Turkey where it is a tradition to buy gold for babies instead of clothes. A fine tradition I say.
And, he won't grow out of the coins!

As for the gender thing, between learning that and the one not being a prime number, my life is in crisis. Or, maybe it's the bar. Anyway, in on your opinions, should I be calling the baby a her or a him for the next 12 weeks (or however long until we have a known gender)? I suppose the worldwide law of averages says boy, but in both our families it says girl...I just can't use it.

riciad
Jul 14, 2006, 07:47 AM
Try the needle on a thread gender predictor. You dangle the needle over the woman's wrist and supposedly determine the sex and number of children you will have by whether the needle reacts by moving in a circle or a straight line.

Except I can't remember which is which. Anybody else with a better memory heard of this?

A friend tried this out with me when I was expecting my first child. It predicted boy, boy, boy, girl, girl, girl, boy and then stopped dead. I scoffed at the results as I was already 30, but guess what, the prediction was nearly spot on, except the last two were boy, girl.

Mind you, this friend was always considered to be a bit fey, so maybe that made a difference.

floriflee
Jul 14, 2006, 08:49 AM
You know, I only just worked out where the bits are... :o

I thought the baby was that black tadpole-shaped thing but actually (s)he's the baby-shaped thing inside the tadpole. I didn't wanna say anything before because I thought you guys might be getting some sorta frog species instead of the regulation-human. Ahh well, it coulda been fun but I'm happy for you that you'll be gettin' a humanoid. :cool:

It would probably be easier to give birth to a tadpole/frog than a humanoid.... :D

munkees
Jul 14, 2006, 09:21 AM
congrats, but it is a very scarey picture, my wife has one evan more scarey, she has 3, YES, 3 and I am crapping my pants, that 3 crying pooping machines, that will grow into 3 monsters that will attack every thing, then they will turn into 3 toddlers and it get even worse. I know what I am in for we have a 2 1/2 year old.

My wife is 16 weeks, we are having 2 boys one girl.

When I go to the doctors I have ask them to rate the Scan as Rated 'R'

w_parietti22
Jul 14, 2006, 09:44 AM
congrats, but it is a very scarey picture, my wife has one evan more scarey, she has 3, YES, 3 and I am crapping my pants, that 3 crying pooping machines, that will grow into 3 monsters that will attack every thing, then they will turn into 3 toddlers and it get even worse. I know what I am in for we have a 2 1/2 year old.

My wife is 16 weeks, we are having 2 boys one girl.

When I go to the doctors I have ask them to rate the Scan as Rated 'R'


:eek: :eek: :eek:

WOW! Thats really exciting and scary at the same time! :D :eek: Congratulations.

amateurmacfreak
Jul 14, 2006, 04:47 PM
I understand what you mean. I don't expect I will have a whole lot of flexibility doing the law thing (if I can ever find a job), but Lori works from home (telecommuting is a wonderful thing) so it will be a little better than it could have been. I'm hoping to get a bit more flexible as things go on and be able to spend more time with her.
Yeah, my life will have to fit my family life somehow... :) But I want to have my kids early... b/c I sound like a pessimist, so my parents were oldwhen they had me, 45 (dad) and 40 (mom) so I don't want my parents to die when my kid is like, 2 or something. Or worse, before my kid is born. :( :o
The other day I depressed my mom by commenting on how my dad will be 80 (assuming he's still alive) when I'm 35. :( :o I felt bad about it later....

floriflee
Jul 14, 2006, 05:04 PM
congrats, but it is a very scarey picture, my wife has one evan more scarey, she has 3, YES, 3 and I am crapping my pants, that 3 crying pooping machines, that will grow into 3 monsters that will attack every thing, then they will turn into 3 toddlers and it get even worse. I know what I am in for we have a 2 1/2 year old.

My wife is 16 weeks, we are having 2 boys one girl.

When I go to the doctors I have ask them to rate the Scan as Rated 'R'

Holy crap! And I was worried we'd have twins like a friend of mine is having in September (no history of twins in hers or his family). Sorry, dude. :( If it's any consolation, I talked to another person who has twins and she said it was actually easier with them because they're all at the same stage so you have less planning than if all of them came at different stages. She had twin boys and a little girl.