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MacRumors
Jul 28, 2006, 12:26 PM
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CNN reports (http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/28/metallica.itunes.ap/index.html) that Metallica has finally decided to allow digital distribution of their music on the iTunes Music Store.

Beginning on Tuesday, the band put up four of its records _ "Kill 'Em All," "Ride The Lightning," "Master of Puppets" and "...And Justice For All" -- for sale on U.S. and Canadian versions of the popular online music retailer.

Metallica made headlines in 2000 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2000/04/20000414063112.shtml) for being vocal against online piracy and for suing Napster and a number of universities for promoting piracy.

Other notable additions to iTunes have included E! Entertainment shows (http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=televisionNews&storyID=2006-07-28T065848Z_01_N28241982_RTRIDST_0_TELEVISION-E-DC.XML) and WB shows (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060725090723.shtml). Of note, the Pilot episode of Aquaman (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewVideo?id=169181451&p=168272184&s=143441) is being offered. This episode is unique in that it represents a rejected series originally intended for the Fall 2006 season.

Jarbo
Jul 28, 2006, 12:29 PM
Hopefully others will follow.



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CNN reports (http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/28/metallica.itunes.ap/index.html) that Metallica has finally decided to allow digital distribution of their music on the iTunes Music Store.



Metallica made headlines in 2000 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2000/04/20000414063112.shtml) for being vocal against online piracy and for suing Napster and a number of universities for promoting piracy.

Other notable additions to iTunes have included E! Entertainment shows (http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=televisionNews&storyID=2006-07-28T065848Z_01_N28241982_RTRIDST_0_TELEVISION-E-DC.XML) and WB shows (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060725090723.shtml). Of note, the Pilot episode of Aquaman (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewVideo?id=169181451&p=168272184&s=143441) is being offered. This episode is unique in that it represents a rejected series originally intended for the Fall 2006 season.

mlrproducts
Jul 28, 2006, 12:30 PM
This is several days old.

bigmc6000
Jul 28, 2006, 12:31 PM
This is several days old.


I read about this at different points for the whole week. AI had the metallica thing on monday or tuesday as I recall.

arn
Jul 28, 2006, 12:35 PM
just consolidating some recent itunes news. The Aquaman pilot is interesting that its doing well. obviously it's a novelty... but I'd like seeing more pilots for potential shows.

I haven't watched aquaman yet.

arn

Multimedia
Jul 28, 2006, 12:54 PM
just consolidating some recent itunes news. The Aquaman pilot is interesting that its doing well. obviously it's a novelty... but I'd like seeing more pilots for potential shows.

I haven't watched aquaman yet.How could they have rejected Aquaman as a series? I'm sure it would have been a huge hit. It would also make for a great motion picture franchise. Crazy. :rolleyes: :eek:

thogs_cave
Jul 28, 2006, 12:56 PM
just consolidating some recent itunes news. The Aquaman pilot is interesting that its doing well. obviously it's a novelty... but I'd like seeing more pilots for potential shows

Agreed. Often $SPOUSE and I have sat through a show on the boob-tube and said, "If this is what they broadcast, what did they throw away?" It would be nice to see it and judge for ourselves.

Now if Cartoon Network would just start offering stuff on ITMS. I really miss "Megas XLR". :mad:

Jerry Spoon
Jul 28, 2006, 12:57 PM
Of note, the Pilot episode of Aquaman (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewVideo?id=169181451&p=168272184&s=143441) is being offered. This episode is unique in that it represents a rejected series originally intended for the Fall 2006 season.

With this being the number one show on iTunes right now (and yes I bought it.) I wonder what the changes are that a network would take another look at this show. I would think it would fit nicely with WB, or CW or whatever they're calling it, but I believe they're the ones that rejected it in the first place.

I've heard of cancelled shows being picked up by another network or re-picked up by the same network after some fan outcry, but I don't think there's been any precedent of a rejected pilot getting picked up after fan interest.

To be fair, although I thought the show was good for a pilot, just because someone bought it doesn't mean that they thought it was good.

slackersonly
Jul 28, 2006, 12:58 PM
Hey, thanks Metallica for leaving off your 6 most recent cds.
Way to be proactive....:mad:

FlamDrag
Jul 28, 2006, 01:02 PM
Unless something's changed since Tuesday night, The full metallica studio catelog is available on iTunes. So before you complain, go to iTunes folks.

Load, Reloaded, Garage Inc., Metallica and others (I'm not a hard core Metallica fan so don't kill me for remembering all of them) were all available.

Cheers,

Compile 'em all
Jul 28, 2006, 01:02 PM
Yeaaaaaaaah :D

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Compile 'em all
Jul 28, 2006, 01:11 PM
Hey, thanks Metallica for leaving off your 6 most recent cds.
Way to be proactive....:mad:


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celebi23
Jul 28, 2006, 01:13 PM
I've heard of cancelled shows being picked up by another network or re-picked up by the same network after some fan outcry, but I don't think there's been any precedent of a rejected pilot getting picked up after fan interest.



Umm, I guess you've never seen the "Nobody's Watching" pilot on youtube.com. It's in 3 9 minute parts. It's had over 400,000 views & NBC has ordered 6 new episodes and a few webisodes for youtube. They're hoping for it to start on NBC mid-season. Definatly check NW on youtube.

Porchland
Jul 28, 2006, 01:16 PM
This is several days old.

It is several days old, and I submitted the item about the WB having content on iTunes at about 7 a.m. on Tuesday morning. I guess getting E! makes it news.

As for Metallica, in the last year, iTMS has also picked up Madonna, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Steve Miller Band. I'm glad to hear that Metallica is finally on board -- not because I like them (I don't) but because more is better!

Who's left out now besides Radiohead and The Beatles?

slackersonly
Jul 28, 2006, 01:19 PM
hmmm. my fault.
sorry for relying on cnn to have an accurate report.
i will check all possible sources before trusting such a shady operation again. :p

jephrey
Jul 28, 2006, 01:19 PM
With this being the number one show on iTunes right now (and yes I bought it.) I wonder what the changes are that a network would take another look at this show. I would think it would fit nicely with WB, or CW or whatever they're calling it, but I believe they're the ones that rejected it in the first place.

Not only that, how about an iTunes exclusive series? Not that Apple would want to get into that per-se, but if a network produced a show for iTunes, I wonder how that would work? If feasible, this could be a big step forward in internet broadcasting.

Jephrey

VAG
Jul 28, 2006, 01:19 PM
It was about time... Cliff Burstein (as a manager of Metallica) maybe thought that this will increase their popularity now at the end of their career...
I'm a huge fan of them since 1987, and I'll tell you, this was a good move for them.

PS: Also means that their upcoming new album will sell more than St.Anger and maybe will be a great production as "Black Album" was and not as St.Anger's drums resolution.

Good luck Metallica and great addition on iTunes, Apple ;)

Greetings from Greece.
VAG

BrianMojo
Jul 28, 2006, 01:22 PM
Hey, thanks Metallica for leaving off your 6 most recent cds.

If only they had...

aafuss1
Jul 28, 2006, 01:24 PM
It is several days old, and I submitted the item about the WB having content on iTunes at about 7 a.m. on Tuesday morning. I guess getting E! makes it news.

As for Metallica, in the last year, iTMS has also picked up Madonna, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Steve Miller Band. I'm glad to hear that Metallica is finally on board -- not because I like them (I don't) but because more is better!

Who's left out now besides Radiohead and The Beatles?
Only the US/CA stores with Metallica-no Aus or Euro stores have it yet?

princealfie
Jul 28, 2006, 01:24 PM
Metallica sux :(

Nastard
Jul 28, 2006, 01:28 PM
We've secretly replaced Lars's snare drum with a can of Folgers Crystals. Let's see if he notices...

slu
Jul 28, 2006, 01:32 PM
Who's left out now besides Radiohead and The Beatles?

Led Zeppelin

slackersonly
Jul 28, 2006, 01:35 PM
AC/DC
Some Kid Rock

rxse7en
Jul 28, 2006, 01:48 PM
Would be an interesting study to launch ALL pilots on iTunes. Watch the number of downloads/purchases then produce the most popular shows for on air. I think I'll register this concept now!



There.

:D

B

zero2dash
Jul 28, 2006, 01:54 PM
Hey, thanks Metallica for leaving off your 6 most recent cds.
Way to be proactive....:mad:

Anything after the black album is generic metal trash.
So - leaving off those 5 cds wouldn't have exactly been a bad thing. :D
As I always say..."Load is exactly that. A LOAD."

LtCarter47
Jul 28, 2006, 01:57 PM
We've secretly replaced Lars's snare drum with a can of Folgers Crystals. Let's see if he notices...


LMAO

crap freakboy
Jul 28, 2006, 02:01 PM
Metaliwho?
Middleclass rockers trying soooo hard...bless em

Squonk
Jul 28, 2006, 02:19 PM
We've secretly replaced Lars's snare drum with a can of Folgers Crystals. Let's see if he notices...

Funniest thing I read all day. But then again, I haven't been to cnn yet...

Jerry Spoon
Jul 28, 2006, 02:22 PM
Umm, I guess you've never seen the "Nobody's Watching" pilot on youtube.com. It's in 3 9 minute parts. It's had over 400,000 views & NBC has ordered 6 new episodes and a few webisodes for youtube. They're hoping for it to start on NBC mid-season. Definatly check NW on youtube.

Umm :rolleyes:
Nope. I've never seen "Nobody's Watching". I'll have to check out the show.

swingerofbirch
Jul 28, 2006, 02:24 PM
I haven't seen the aquaman pilot. Frankly I can't spare the change. But riddle me this: is the show based on and is the actor the same as the episode of Smallville which featured Aquaman? When I saw that episode I thought I smelled spin-off.

Jerry Spoon
Jul 28, 2006, 02:28 PM
I haven't seen the aquaman pilot. Frankly I can't spare the change. But riddle me this: is the show based on and is the actor the same as the episode of Smallville which featured Aquaman? When I saw that episode I thought I smelled spin-off.

My understanding is that it was put together by the producers of Smallville. I don't think it's the same guy that played him in the Smallville episode though. He looks darn near the same though and I could be wrong. Blond haired guy who looks like he works out just about non stop. If it is him, I think it would be taking place before the Smallville episode took place. He's just finding out who he is although he already knows he can hold his breath under water like nobody's business and swims faster than anything else alive. No swirling ball of water to knock you on your butt though. (That's the only real "power" I remember from the Smallville episode.)

KindredMAC
Jul 28, 2006, 02:36 PM
S&M is curiously absent from the catalog though.....

I'm not a huge Metallica fan but I downloaded a couple of their older songs Tuesday night when I got home from work.

Fiveos22
Jul 28, 2006, 03:10 PM
Yeaaaaaaaah :D

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tituspullo
Jul 28, 2006, 03:17 PM
How could they have rejected Aquaman as a series? I'm sure it would have been a huge hit. It would also make for a great motion picture franchise. Crazy. :rolleyes: :eek:

Just watched Aquaman and believe it or not, those executives knew what they were doing. What a dog.

phairphan
Jul 28, 2006, 03:19 PM
Am I the only person who finds it odd that the band who spearheaded (or at least was the most vocal) the artists' fight against online music piracy is JUST NOW signing up with the largest, legal music download service? :rolleyes:

Thanks, Metallica, for providing us with convenient, legal alternatives to pirating your "music" for all of these years!

silk4747gto
Jul 28, 2006, 03:28 PM
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CNN reports (http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/28/metallica.itunes.ap/index.html) that Metallica has finally decided to allow digital distribution of their music on the iTunes Music Store.



Metallica made headlines in 2000 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2000/04/20000414063112.shtml) for being vocal against online piracy and for suing Napster and a number of universities for promoting piracy.

Other notable additions to iTunes have included E! Entertainment shows (http://today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=televisionNews&storyID=2006-07-28T065848Z_01_N28241982_RTRIDST_0_TELEVISION-E-DC.XML) and WB shows (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060725090723.shtml). Of note, the Pilot episode of Aquaman (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewVideo?id=169181451&p=168272184&s=143441) is being offered. This episode is unique in that it represents a rejected series originally intended for the Fall 2006 season.

All that is great but where is the Frank Zappa catalogue??

:-(

MattG
Jul 28, 2006, 03:29 PM
Meh...who cares.

If they were smart they'd let whoever wants to sell their music go ahead and sell it. They haven't put out anything good in like 15 years...they need all the help they can get.

jelloshotsrule
Jul 28, 2006, 03:33 PM
Hey, thanks Metallica for leaving off your 6 most recent cds.
Way to be proactive....:mad:

do the last 6 suck also?

jelloshotsrule
Jul 28, 2006, 03:34 PM
We've secretly replaced Lars's snare drum with a can of Folgers Crystals. Let's see if he notices...

hahahahahaha. best post of the day.

xyian
Jul 28, 2006, 03:35 PM
You mean, people still buy Metallica? Wow. I am behind.

mcarnes
Jul 28, 2006, 03:37 PM
Their Money Tips Her Scales Again
Make Your Deal

swano
Jul 28, 2006, 03:51 PM
Unless something's changed since Tuesday night, The full metallica studio catelog is available on iTunes. So before you complain, go to iTunes folks.

Load, Reloaded, Garage Inc., Metallica and others (I'm not a hard core Metallica fan so don't kill me for remembering all of them) were all available.

Cheers,


Yeah....any fan knows its just "reload".... only because its part two to a two part horrable era of metallica....no wonder Newstead quit...wait...now Jason in on that rockstar show...I liked him...I'm so torn. I'll jus tlisten to Justice...but you cant hear any bass....****...I'm rambling....I like Metallica....but ....Lars....shut up.......Bob Rock....mistake.....ARRRRGH!:confused:

MegaSignal
Jul 28, 2006, 03:53 PM
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Great. Glad they're on iTunes.

Now it's time to call up Malcolm Young and hammer out a deal.

After all, It's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll...

camomac
Jul 28, 2006, 04:00 PM
do the last 6 suck also?

LOL. of course they do. all of them suck.

Tommyg117
Jul 28, 2006, 04:01 PM
They could put up their first 5 albums and I would be happy. I already have them, but anyone that has not been exposed to Master Of Puppets or ...And Justice For All are missing out. Anything after Black album is meh..I can see how some would like it, I just don't.

Teddy's
Jul 28, 2006, 04:18 PM
I hope someday soon the Canadian iTMS will have all those TV shows too.
Personally, I prefer to hear the noise of a dental drill than any song of Metallica. But they have fans. Let them go to iTMS.
zzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

noservice2001
Jul 28, 2006, 04:18 PM
Hopefully others will follow.


yeah... hopefully

swano
Jul 28, 2006, 04:21 PM
They could put up their first 5 albums and I would be happy. I already have them, but anyone that has not been exposed to Master Of Puppets or ...And Justice For All are missing out. Anything after Black album is meh..I can see how some would like it, I just don't.


Now let's be fair. Garage Inc wasnt bad, both production and song wise, and that was after the black album....but wait...that wasn't their songs.... hmmm... that's kind of ironic.

thogs_cave
Jul 28, 2006, 04:42 PM
All that is great but where is the Frank Zappa catalogue??

Huh? It's all there, at least on the US store. Of course, I already had most of it on CD or LP, so....

EDIT: Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over? I just went to look and there aren't any FZ albums any more. That's really, really weird. Do they ever pull stuff from ITMS? I know the whole catalog used to be there, as I was pondering giving my sister a chunk of it for her birthday back in May....

belovedmonster
Jul 28, 2006, 04:50 PM
Spend your hard earned money on iTunes wisely. Dont buy anything after the Black album.

Metallica before Black album = the Beatles of heavy music

Metallica after Black album = second rate rock band

Of course with the world being the crazy way that it is Windows became the most popular OS in the world and Metallica became the biggest band in the world once they started making reaaally bad albums.

thogs_cave
Jul 28, 2006, 04:52 PM
Metallica before Black album = the Beatles of heavy music

Metallica after Black album = second rate rock band

So, what about the Black album? Which side of the equation does it fall on? :D

mcarnes
Jul 28, 2006, 05:01 PM
The only really good albums were Master Of Puppets and Justice For All (1986 and 1988). But those two albums were soooooo good. The rest of the world just didn't get it until the 90's.

I like a lot of music, but Metallica is one of my favorite groups just from those two albums.

Multimedia
Jul 28, 2006, 05:09 PM
Just watched Aquaman and believe it or not, those executives knew what they were doing. What a dog.Please elaborate with a full review. Thanks. :eek:

Cobrien
Jul 28, 2006, 05:13 PM
ITMS should get Radiohead, especially OK Computer, its a must.

Some Oasis albums were added last year (the earlier, better ones).

Also Travis should be included, they have the greatest hits but I want the original albums.

PS Does anyone know when tv shows will be coming to the Uk (and other) stores.

KingYaba
Jul 28, 2006, 05:16 PM
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2821/picture1qq2.jpg

\m/ >.< \m/

Bloody thing wont display properly in the forum window. It's a pic of the text :p

KingYaba
Jul 28, 2006, 05:17 PM
Tool isn't on iTunes either.

BootstrapMetal
Jul 28, 2006, 05:55 PM
Tool isn't on iTunes either.

If you ask me, it's better that way. I wouldn't like people missing out on the awesome artwork. :D

Fiveos22
Jul 28, 2006, 06:16 PM
Now let's be fair. Garage Inc wasnt bad, both production and song wise, and that was after the black album....but wait...that wasn't their songs.... hmmm... that's kind of ironic.

This may be sliding off topic but I think it needs to be mentioned that even though that may have been an album of cover songs, Metallica cannot be knocked for their own songs.

How many pop artists today are writing their own music? singing their own lyrics? playing "their own" music?

You may not like the musician's work, but respect the fact that they are in fact producing (not the best word, but I couldn't think of anything better) and executing their own work.


Back on topic: I wonder when they will be releasing new numbers on iTunes sales. I bet its slowing down by now, maybe even flattening out quite dramatically.

AP_piano295
Jul 28, 2006, 06:41 PM
Interesting this Aquaman is getting alot of positive reviews. Doesnt sound remotely like my type of show but this could signal a future role for itunes. Giving the shows never picked up by the networks another chance. And if they get enough positive reviews and high download numbers Itunes might be seriously effecting the shows that go on TV.

orrr itunes exclusive shows?

aafuss1
Jul 28, 2006, 07:27 PM
No Metallica on the European or Aussie iTMS yet, because Mercury distribuates the albums there, and they won't let any Metallica songs on there. In America, Atlantic lets the songs be sold.

sam10685
Jul 28, 2006, 07:52 PM
Metallica, E! and WB on iTunes? w'll whoop-tee-doo. where the HELL is House MD?!

spicyapple
Jul 28, 2006, 08:42 PM
Just watched Aquaman and believe it or not, those executives knew what they were doing. What a dog.
Agreed. Just saw it and I must say it sucks. The acting was atrocious. The super cheesy dialog was bottom of the barrel steeped in so many cliches.

There were some scenes that just reeked.

1) Aquaman can swim as fast as a fighter jet flying through the air, yet he doesn't question how he can do it.
2) Aquaboy doesn't seem fazed to have been nearly killed by a siren.
3) Lou Diamond Philips
4) Lousy special effects.

inkswamp
Jul 28, 2006, 09:36 PM
Meh... tallica

aafuss1
Jul 28, 2006, 10:00 PM
Like with TV shows, Metallica isn't on iTMS for EU and others because of licensing issues-as Mercury is the publishing label there, not Atlantic.

ezekielrage_99
Jul 28, 2006, 10:33 PM
Why would I want to buy Metallica on iTunes? After all I did download all of their music on Napster and Limewire for nothing ;)

I'm a bad little boy :cool:

yojitani
Jul 28, 2006, 11:12 PM
Why would I want to buy Metallica on iTunes? After all I did download all of their music on Napster and Limewire for nothing ;)

I'm a bad little boy :cool:

heehee:D . But I deleted it. The free p2p services for me are just convenient radio. I haven't *listened* to Metallica since my teens - and was not too impressed with their take on p2p years later - but I have downloaded tunes at times for nostalgia's sake. I don't keep them, mind.
One listen, the file is sitting comfortably in the trash. I have 'zero' use for grandad heavy metal. And I'm not convinced that spending $0.99 for a song I will delete after I've listened to it is at all a wise thing to do...

Well, I voted negative for this. I s'pose it's good they've kind of gotten over their sour grapes attitude to digitalized music...

yt

nofear1az
Jul 28, 2006, 11:12 PM
I understand all the angst towards Metallica with Lars' big mouth during the Napster 1.0 days and I even grew some disgruntlement for them but I have to disagree on one level. The Black Album and Master of Puppers were not the only good albums they made. I agree they are good as I like 'em too, but I feel Load and Reload were good too. Yah they were different, but I feel they were good. I don't really care for some of their latest work but I won't go as far that they suck or anything. I've seen worse bands out there.

I just had to add my two cents on this subject which I'm sure most will hate on here for enjoying a few of their later albums.

Dahl
Jul 29, 2006, 12:31 AM
Hey, thanks Metallica for leaving off your 6 most recent cds.
Way to be proactive....:mad:
You only need the first 3 albums anyways. ;)
The next two were good too.

FrankieTDouglas
Jul 29, 2006, 02:54 AM
How could they have rejected Aquaman as a series? I'm sure it would have been a huge hit. It would also make for a great motion picture franchise. Crazy. :rolleyes: :eek:

As a fan of Entourage...

It seems like Aquaman has already been a franchise, albeit one with a large hurdle for the second installment.

dornoforpyros
Jul 29, 2006, 03:16 AM
Master! Master!

Master of puppets I'm pulling your strings!

\m/

bloodycape
Jul 29, 2006, 03:20 AM
Maybe we can get some stuff from Century Media/Nuclear Blast records on there?

aafuss1
Jul 29, 2006, 04:41 AM
Maybe we can get some stuff from Century Media/Nuclear Blast records on there?
You can request via the iTMS.

killmoms
Jul 29, 2006, 08:58 AM
Metallica, E! and WB on iTunes? w'll whoop-tee-doo. where the HELL is House MD?!
Quoted for TRUTHINESS!

Must... have... House. Hell, iTunes copies of the show would still look better than the first season DVD box set. How anyone could **** up a show shot and edited and broadcast in HD THAT much is a mystery to me.

xPismo
Jul 29, 2006, 12:52 PM
As a fan of Entourage...

It seems like Aquaman has already been a franchise, albeit one with a large hurdle for the second installment.

Great show. Just saw my first ep. I think the joke works by releasing the real failed show (or is it real? Maybe is a staged ep?!? Hmmm... ;) ) into the wild just to give it more cred.

As for that band that shall remain nameless: i care not. Lars will die before he gets any of my money. You can take that to the bank.

guzhogi
Jul 29, 2006, 01:01 PM
Where I went to college, the Office of Student Activities put on this music competition where either individual students or groups got to do two cover songs and the three best performers won prizes. My senior year, during the competition one of the groups played Metallica songs, but witha twist, they played the songs on cellos. It was awesome! The group's name is "Mecellica." I don't know if they'll put out a CD (I doubt it), but it would be cool if they did.

imacintel
Jul 29, 2006, 01:21 PM
iTunes is gorwing every day.

inkswamp
Jul 29, 2006, 02:03 PM
So, what about the Black album? Which side of the equation does it fall on? :D

IMO, the the latter. And Justice for All and The Black Album both killed my interest in Metallica.

The only really good Metallica albums were the first album through Master of Puppets. After that, it was all about getting on MTV and at that point they became a self-parody and their music lost a lot of the edge and impact. Also, they blinked when the grunge thing hit. Instead of sticking to their guns, they went all pseudo-grungy which told me that they were more interested in being loved than loving what they did.

silk4747gto
Jul 29, 2006, 02:23 PM
Huh? It's all there, at least on the US store. Of course, I already had most of it on CD or LP, so....

EDIT: Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over? I just went to look and there aren't any FZ albums any more. That's really, really weird. Do they ever pull stuff from ITMS? I know the whole catalog used to be there, as I was pondering giving my sister a chunk of it for her birthday back in May....

Check again... The page is still there but only one album left. Ensemble Ambrosias. Either they are making some maintenance repairs or they have been pulled for good.

mcarnes
Jul 29, 2006, 02:54 PM
IMO, the the latter. And Justice for All and The Black Album both killed my interest in Metallica.

The only really good Metallica albums were the first album through Master of Puppets. After that, it was all about getting on MTV and at that point they became a self-parody and their music lost a lot of the edge and impact. Also, they blinked when the grunge thing hit. Instead of sticking to their guns, they went all pseudo-grungy which told me that they were more interested in being loved than loving what they did.

You think Kill 'em All was better than Justice? Ah well, to each his own.

AP_piano295
Jul 29, 2006, 05:35 PM
hmm metallica was a spearhead in the no music pirating. That means BLLAAAAA to me if you acutally care about music u should be stoked that people are listening. Theyre already rich as all gedout ne way.

spicyapple
Jul 29, 2006, 06:22 PM
How could they have rejected Aquaman as a series? I'm sure it would have been a huge hit.
Don't believe the positive reviews posted on iTMS. They are all lies. Most of it concerns how they can't believe CW didn't pick it up as a series. I'll tell you. I saw it, and it was wretched. Truly awful acting, and extremely corny dialog.

ThomasJefferson
Jul 29, 2006, 07:20 PM
Looks like Metallica just made $4 from me.
I love iTunes.

thogs_cave
Jul 30, 2006, 11:37 AM
Check again... The page is still there but only one album left. Ensemble Ambrosias. Either they are making some maintenance repairs or they have been pulled for good.

I sure hope not. iTMS w/o FZ is like a turkey dinner w/o the lumpy gravy.

;)

iFry
Jul 31, 2006, 02:39 AM
i'm still kind of on the fence about file sharing and all that... i used to download music like most everyone i know, but i've all but completely stopped with music except for albums that i or my parents have owned and don't use... such as cassette tapes and butchered cd's that don't work but are still laying around the house uselessly...

metallica irritated me.. i'm not sure... i always liked their music... but something about siding with the RIAA just set me off. buying retail cd's is a huge ripoff IMO, and i have yet to buy a song on iTunes or any other online service. i'm not calling anyone out, i'm just saying that i personnally can't bring myself to do it

mattthemutt
Jul 31, 2006, 08:55 AM
Now, my question is, when are they going to bring all of these cool TV shows to Canada?

metfuel
Jul 31, 2006, 09:43 AM
Hmm...
It just amazes me the amount of disrespect there is especially from heavy metal fans ( i know this is a mac based site im just saying) for a band that pretty much started heavy metals popularity. No everything after Master of Puppets doesn't suck. If anyone has heard any of the St. Anger songs live their opinions turn rather quickly about how they sound. If you have heard Metallicas newest song it is still heavy metal. Besides so what if they do a different style. When you go to their concerts most of it is the old stuff anyhow.

I saw them in albany in '04 and they played Outlaw Torn. It hadn't been played live in it's entirtey since the S&M concert and that was one of the heaviest songs.

Before all of you people say how much they suck try and pick up an instrument and see how well you can play some of the songs they play and to keep in time.


As far as the covers comment. Metallicas covers are awesome. They completley change a song and make it as if they wrote it. They don't just cover a song. Soemthing I just came to realize is Johnny Cash did alot of cover songs, and I never hear him being critized for it.

Yeah Metallica are getting old, but the fire is still there. Go to a live show and tell me when your done that they suck.

CellarDoor
Jul 31, 2006, 10:00 AM
Who's left out now besides Radiohead and The Beatles?

TOOL. TOOL is left out. I highly doubt we'll ever see them on there, though.

JGowan
Jul 31, 2006, 10:54 AM
If it weren't for Metallica suing Napster and really getting attention drawn to illegal filesharing in 2000, Apple wouldn't have had the strong position of "Legal downloading" -- it just wouldn't have made the impact without people getting in trouble with the law.

The RIAA probably caused millions of people to stop downloading illegally. Because of this, Apple was able to offer the legal alternative.

I'm no fan of the RIAA and I think music in general is way too expensive, but in the long run a lot of positive things happened because of the Metallica/RIAA association for pirating music.

While I don't share the same sentiment about the band that many fans do, Metallica can't be knocked simply because they didn't want to be stolen from. Would anyone here, as an artist, want millions of your CDs in stores collecting dust while everyone just downloaded your work by the millions without paying a cent? I doubt it. Stealing from a rich man is the same as still stealing from anyone else. Saying "he can afford to be ripped off" is no excuse.

What kind of fan are you if the band you "like" is upset about theft and you have a beef with them for trying to stop it? Sounds extremely selfish. Doesn't seem like much of a fan.

I'm glad Metallica is now on iTunes. I'm glad they're offering their music as individual tracks. And I'm glad they're getting paid when a song they recorded is downloaded. In my opinion, it's about time.

iFry
Jul 31, 2006, 12:33 PM
music IS too expensive. and Metallica helped the RIAA. i would have liked to see downloading drive them into the ground until they had to cut prices to a lower level. a 2-cent cd should not be $16+.