Apple's new ipod

[macboy]

I was talking to a local apple representative and he was saying that apple is working on a handheld that will play mp3s using iTunes to transfer plus will use QuickTime to transfer video. The screen will be colour and more adavanced then the current ipod screen. When music is playing, you can set it to have the iTunes visualizer.

He said this should be coming out this year. There will be two version of iPod. The current cheaper version and the expensive, 'dual' ipod, that does both video and music.

When I asked about a PDA he said apple is working on a phone that will have the features of the PDA in it. http://www.iphone.org

He has been pretty good with his 'inside' scoop and been pretty acurate. Every time new computers are launched, he always seems to know the processor speeds. When the G4 1GHz came out he told me the week before that apple is going to release a 1 GHz Dual G4. and then the week after, it was out! Same thing with the new imac. He said it was going to be new, running 800MHz with superdrive & G4 chip in it.

He always has some inside info that he likes to share when i go to see him!

[groucho]

that's quite interesting, i hope it's true...i don't know about the iphone though. it seems a bit improbable (even if www.iphone.org points to apples website)

[Timothy]

Anyone can register a domain and point it to another domain. If Apple were doing the redirection of "iphone.org" then the URL would change to an apple URL after the redirection.

[arn]

Originally posted by Timothy
Anyone can register a domain and point it to another domain. If Apple were doing the redirection of "iphone.org" then the URL would change to an apple URL after the redirection.

no... Apple actually owns iphone.org

http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=iphone.org&SearchType=do

For previous iphone discussion...

http://www.macrumors.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=2109

arn

[Ensign Paris]

Net Rules should prohibit apple using iphone.

Ensign

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by Ensign Paris
Net Rules should prohibit apple using iphone.

Ensign

Why's that?

[krossfyter]

well i hope its true also.


being that the new dual apple iPod and the new apple pda will round out steve jobs vision of the "digital hub"...makes sense and will clear a lot of that confusion.

[mymemory]

Does your friend at the store know when Fidel Castro is gonna die and when the war is gonna be over?

[Hlau]

I'm not sure if a video-playing iPod would be a good idea. No matter how advanced the screen is, it would still be too small for playing videos, it would be a waste. Portable video players don't sell that well anyway; watching videos take time and attention, something people on the move don't usually have. What iPod really needs is a well designed remote, it would be one hell of a design job though. It'll probably need a screen, it'll have to have controls that let us go through the menus like we do on the iPod itself and it has to be really small. Apple should also bring out iPods with different colour and with an option for a more durable casing.

[macfreek57]

i'm just waiting for apple to start making tv's, dvd players, portable dvd players, vcr's, printers (again), GOOD,CHEAP speakers, better mice (mouses?), cell phones, pda's, alarm clocks, telephones, usb and network hubs, and stereo systems so that all the electronics in my house can be apple.

[Ensign Paris]

Originally posted by Hemingray


Why's that?

.org is for orgernisations (non-profit) I think its NetSol who clean out companys who should not have it.

Ensign

[stoid]

What the iPod really needs is to be able to buy a back-up battery. Right now you have to break the thing open to get at the battery. I know 10 hours of battery life is really long, but I won't buy it yet because sometimes I go on long rips where I can't recharge my battery. If I just use my mp3 CD player, I can just pop in a fresh set of batteries. I know I have to take the CD's with me and it's a bit of a hassle, if I run out of battery life I can't listen to music at all, and then it's totally useless. And I know that big steps have been taken in rechargeable batteries, but eventually with all the charging, the battery will stop working, just like all the other rechargable devices I own. Then I have to either send it away to apple along with gobs of money to get it fixed. Maybe by then though I could just get this iPod 2. Anyway, nice product apple, but lame choice with the battery.

[Macmaniac]

That would be really cool, but it would be a strain on battery life.

[irmongoose]

damn.. i just bought an iPod... hey, but what the hey! All I need is music.. I dont have much use for quicktime movies...





irmongoose

[macboy]

My guess is that using QuickTime 6 you'll be able to transfer DVDs & full length movies....

[krossfyter]

Originally posted by mymemory
Does your friend at the store know when Fidel Castro is gonna die and when the war is gonna be over?


heh! kinda sounds like an oracle right? a soothsayer. the macsoothsayer. dig it.

[moby1]

There is something to this 'video jukebox' idea.

When I was playing with the new iMac at an Apple Store (still waiting for mine, grrrr), I thought 'what's next'?
Well, iTunes/iPod provides an integrated system for enjoying audio, made so popular by the MP3 format.
Now, people are beginning to DL movies and flash animations and build their own movies with iMovie and iDVD.
What's missing is something like iPhoto to organize all these movies. Consumer HD's are becoming huge because folks are filling them with multimedia files. It will soon become a priority to organize all these files.
As for the size, well I was amazed at how many people DL'd a few small 300 x 200 QT movies I made - they were very popular!
Of course we'll need a very large FW HD so I'm not sure how soon we'll see an iAppliance for this but an iApp may be on it's way.

[Taft]

Originally posted by stoid
What the iPod really needs is to be able to buy a back-up battery.

Get a car adapter for it. They make adapters that convert cigarette lighters in the car and convert it to a firewire charger.

http://www.drbott.com/prod/action.lasso?-database=Products&-layout=all&-response=detail.html&Code=0141-IPAA&Publish=Yes&-search

Matthew

[AmbitiousLemon]

Originally posted by mrtrumbe


Get a car adapter for it. They make adapters that convert cigarette lighters in the car and convert it to a firewire charger.

http://www.drbott.com/prod/action.lasso?-database=Products&-layout=all&-response=detail.html&Code=0141-IPAA&Publish=Yes&-search

Matthew

thats a pretty nice vendor... website needs some serious work, but they have some neat stuff there. thanks for the link kid.

[Xapplimatic]

It would be great if it's true.. I was planning on picking up an iPod this summer.. if there is a color one with a visualizer and quicktime video, all the better!

[rugby]

I for one would like to have an iPod/pda/cell phone so i would be able to ditch 2 of the 3 things I have hanging from my belt. I hate carrying stuff around, I feel like Batman with my pager, keycard, ipod, cell, and palm pulling my pants down. I had to invest in a belt to hold all this stuff up.

[SPG]

hmmm, a way to carry video around on an iPod? I use my iPod to carry around movie clips I've made all the time...just drag and drop the quicktime file while in disc mode, then plug it into anyone's mac with firewire and play 'em back on quicktime right off the ipod. Full res 720x480 29.97fps DV without dropping frames...not bad.
Battery? I have my ipod playing for 10 hours a day continuosly and I still haven't run it out. Comes with a wall charger, and you can buy a car charger. I don't really think there are too many times you'd need more than that. Even on a 10 hour or 16 hour flight you wouldn't run the battery out since it wouldn't be on the entire time.
If you can afford one and you can use it, buy it, you'll love it. I don't regret buying mine at all.

[evildead]

Dam! ... and I just got a new phone. I wonder what kind of services and who will provide for Apples phone. That is if they make one.

[Digidesign]

I agree with Rugby, I don't have enough pockets to hold everything! But, there'd have to be some serious restructuring of the market/protocols before Apple came out with an all-in-one.

All I know is that I love my iPod! Took it on a road trip this weekend - lasted 6+ hours continuous play, with the backlight always on, and with me fiddling with the tracks/settings. Stores all the songs I want with room for the ones I have yet to hear. This is hands down my favorite Apple product of all time. :D

[oldMac]

Hey dude,

Just because you live in the US doesn't mean that everybody can expect to take long trips by car. That's the typical american's answer to everything. I'll just go jump in my car.

Well, hey man, this is the internet and we don't all live by american "rules". We have superior and more earth-friendly inventions like the locomotive, the bicycle and the rickshaw.

So, I am now calling upon you american snobs, to rise above you silly notions of "personal mobility" and recognize that the rest of the world is older and wiser than your fledgling, 200-year-old "culture".

Now, I demand that you immediately recant your americentric "car adaptor" viewpoint and substitute something more euro-asian friendly. Or, should a solution not present itself, please couple your suggestion with something more global, such as "wind up generator", "solar panel", or (for our Heineken-drinking friends) "portable windmill".

So Recant, D*MN YOU, RECANT!!!

(tip: For extended euro-friendliness, please learn french. Not because the French can't speak English, but just because it's more polite.)

[krossfyter]

and whats wrong with americans?...

[cryptochrome]

About a video iPod...

When you listen to your iPod now, you don't use tinny built in speakers do you? Of course not. You plug in headphones. Or you plug it into speakers. Now you could watch video on the built in screen with your video iPod, but it would be less than satisfactory for a lot of purposes. It would be so much better if you could plug it into your TV for playback. I'll bet you $5 the video iPod (if it comes out) has an iBook-style AV port instead of a headphone port, and can use its firewire interface on to play back on any computer or TV that has firewire.

[Hemingray]

Hey dude,

Speaking of snobs, how snobby can you get? I'm disgusted by other Americans who think that the "American Way" is the ONLY way. On the same token, I'm disgusted by remarks from people like you who do nothing but bag on Americans for the stupidest things. That's just really pathetic.

Et je parle français aussi, mais je suis Americain. :p

[sprescott1974]

I just can't see the practicality in a video iPod. Portable music I understand, portable photos I understand, but portable/pocket size movies i don't. I can watch a movie on my iBook on a aeroplane. I guess I could watch a movie on a video iPod on the bus or train in the morning but I don't know it just doesn't sound practical. Apple is about making practical devices for everyday life that anyone could make use of. Besides downloading movies off the internet is not even close to being widely used. DVD players don't even have that high of a market penetration yet. I'm thinking that some sort of cell phone or pda device is next. I just hope they aren't one in the same because i saw a guy with his visor up to his face one day talking on the phone and he looked like an idiot. i like having my phone and my pda as seperate devices, if i could connect them when needed that would be nice.

[newmanium]

iPod with color and video?? gimme a break, that sort of thing will just suck 'dem batteries dry (Sega GameGear, anyone?)... even Apple themselves recommend not playing anything longer than 8 minutes, let alone a near 2 hour movie with color AND a mandatory backlight to watch it in the night! i sincerely hope Apple doesnt choose that road and just try to make a be all end all device. they should really just perfect what they have already (like fixing the buggy OS on the iPod and more seamless commands from the control buttons... hmm, maybe a easter egg of snake too?). I just bought my iPod a week ago and just loving it. Its all about Firewire disk mode baby.

[Digidesign]

Agreed - ditch the video capabilities on the iPod, and spend efforts improving what's already there (tough, since it's so great as is :)).

I'd like to see them incorporate a playlist queue of some kind, so that while you're flipping through the songs, you can select and queue up your own playlist on the ipod. That way, you aren't restricted to playlists that you create on your computer, and you don't have to manually jump to each song.

Also, I like iTune's crossfade playback capabilities, especially when listening to a lot of songs for a long time. It'd be great to see this on the iPod as well.

[mymemory]

Hey, a political discusion that I didn't started!

The people in the US have their way to see things, most of the time they seem corny to the rest of the world in most aspect. Just think about it:

How in the world you are gonna get experience from another culture or be able to experiment some one elses point of view if all what you need to live is just right there? For example:

In the US if you want to eat or buy anything (computers, books, etc) you just have to pick up the phone and make a call.

If you want to go out, in less than 5 miles around you have evrything.

And better!!!, if you go to the movies, you just are gonna see north american movies...

Tell me the how manny times the US culture has a foreing input?

All what they know is:
Taco Bell.
That in outside their frontiers everything is gorilla forces (but they do not where exactly).
Piña coladas.
And may be that Spain is in Europe.

On the other hand what we have:
We are able to compare our way of live with the US way of live because of their movies (of course we know there are not people like Rambo).
Most of us have travel for a month or live there.
Plus we get some of their news.

In conclusion: the rest of the world has a better undertanding of what is going on with the people in the US than they do with the rest of the world, and that is a circunstances only.

If we go father, remember that for a country such as the US is better to export their culture so future generations can accept them easilly, and that is the problem with the globalization right now.

Globalization is a way to export your colture so then you can export your products. One example that we know: Mac Donalds.

Now, what happen to Mac Donalds, the US (been very generic I know), place a Mac Donald in Venezuela for example, but they pay to the employees abot $150 per month when the prices of the combos are just the same than in the US. Now, the difference of that ammount goes to the US.

That is why most of the people is mad about globalization, because in place of making an entire world better is making ones richiers and others more poor.

So oldMac, remember that you are in a forum where most of the people are kids just thinking in their computers. So do not ask too much from their global knowledge because this is not the place.

[oldMac]

I know mymemory, but you have to understand that I am an American.

I was making fun of Europeans making fun of Americans making fun of Europeans.

I thought it was funny, but not too many folks seemed to get the joke. :)

[newmanium]

right on DigiD. user should really have more control of playlists, deleting, renaming, etc. of songs on the iPod itself rather than doing all the dirty work from itunes alone.

[krossfyter]

okay okay... everthing in this political tangant here is relative.


i hate generalizations about anyone.

[rugby]

Two ways to get really messed up views of the US are to watch our movies and to watch our news. Movies are for entertainment purposes. They don't depict real life. The news is sensationalized. Before Sept 11th here the big story was shark attacks. Now, keep in mind we have maybe 1 shark attack/month here but it made all the news. Next month the big story will be bird migration and how it's affecting nothing at all.

I will tell you that Apple has a secret and it's that all the US iPods have 20gb hard drives while the ones that are exported only have 5gb drives.

Don't make assumptions about all us citizens;)