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MacRumors
Jul 30, 2001, 01:09 PM
A reader sent along these quicktime movies of Mac OS X 10.1 (MacWorld Preview) running on OS X. The machine in question is apparently a 500mhz iBook.

Movie 1 (http://members.home.nl/2efase/5F24.mov)
Movie 2 (http://members.home.nl/2efase/5F24-2.mov)

KevinHoctor
Jul 30, 2001, 02:01 PM
Now I'm really hyped for the 10.1 update to OS X!

Too bad these movies were so small, it made it hard to get a real feel for the overall look. But they did show how fantastic the update will be for all of us.

This is going to be a tough few weeks of waiting. <g>

arn
Jul 30, 2001, 02:04 PM
Note, there was probably some speedhit taken with saving a QT movie under OS X...

but still, not too bad for a 500mhz G3.

arn

moki
Jul 30, 2001, 02:23 PM
The movies in question were captured with Snapz Pro X (http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/utilities/snapzprox/) -- at that size, there probably isn't too much of a speed hit (tho there is some, of course).

If he tried to do a full-screen movie, there certainly would be a speed-hit, and additionally, the movies would be so huge I doubt you'd want to download 'em. Even with modern compressors like Sorenson, movies take up a lot of storage space.

Hmm...
Jul 30, 2001, 02:35 PM
Well, all-in-all it looks quite promising. However, the window resizing still needs some work.

arn
Jul 30, 2001, 02:35 PM
hey andrew,

good to see you here...

Yep, readers should take a look at Snapz Pro (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/)... I haven't used it myself, but the above movies are impressive, and sounds like a very "Mac OS X" app.

Andrew - don't know if you remember me... I remember chatting with you a lot on AOL... in fact this was while you were coding the original Snapz..

I was working on an arkanoid clone (spasm), but I never finished it.

arn

RoofusPennymore
Jul 30, 2001, 03:20 PM
That was pretty impressive. Were those large brigtness and sound things in the middle of the screen from the keyboard buttons?

mymemory
Jul 30, 2001, 03:23 PM
Congratulations, all I see is a white QT box that weight 1.3 MB without any sound. Let's see what is going on now with my Explorer.

Pants
Jul 30, 2001, 04:44 PM
one thing Id like to see is some user pressure placed on apple to make teh update downloadable. Sure it may be big, but for us academic users thats not an issue. I really object to Apples definition of 'free' sometimes and wonder wether a little bit of user pressure wouldnt go a long way. I can guarantee that it will be around 20 quid here, which is a fair few beer vouchers!

ebow
Jul 30, 2001, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by mymemory
Congratulations, all I see is a white QT box that weight 1.3 MB without any sound. Let's see what is going on now with my Explorer.

Same here. Maybe Netscape will load them correctly... Sigh, life on an NT machine (at work).

tywoods
Jul 30, 2001, 05:21 PM
i had to download a plugin though thay may be the reason you are not seeing it.

it works on a mac!!!

an iMac that is.

good luck on a PC

Cheezy
Jul 30, 2001, 05:44 PM
Doesn't work on my G3 with QT 5.0.1 Pro Ed, either...
Only white picture and no sound...

Abner
Jul 30, 2001, 05:56 PM
All I get is white. 400Mhz Blue G3 8.5.1

ebow
Jul 30, 2001, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by tywoods
i had to download a plugin though thay may be the reason you are not seeing it.

it works on a mac!!!

an iMac that is.

good luck on a PC

Had to update Quicktime to 5 with the Quicktime Updater app. Those movies are great, if small!

tywoods
Jul 30, 2001, 06:07 PM
try updating quick time to see if that will help ya

i have Version 5 QuickTime on OSX 10.04
and it works for me.

its just problably something you have to download first.


ty

moki
Jul 30, 2001, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by mymemory
Congratulations, all I see is a white QT box that weight 1.3 MB without any sound. Let's see what is going on now with my Explorer.

You just need the latest Sorenson codec. Under OS X, open up your System Preferences, click on QuickTime, then click on the Update tab. then click "Update Now" and it should download the codec you need for you.

Under OS 9, do the equivalent.

moki
Jul 30, 2001, 10:24 PM
You just need the latest Sorenson codec. Under OS X, open up your System Preferences, click on QuickTime, then click on the Update tab. then click "Update Now" and it should download the codec you need for you.

Under OS 9, do the equivalent.

guest
Jul 31, 2001, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by moki

Andrew Welch / el Presidente /
http://
http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/


"But El Presidente, America tried to KEEL you!

Aww, there not so bad. They even named a street after me in San Francisco.

<pssst psst psst>

It's full of WHAT?"

:D

Belbo
Jul 31, 2001, 03:08 AM
just white window. IE 5 G3 350 b/w

I will get the QT update

MrMacMan
Jul 31, 2001, 08:35 AM
AH the would is GOING WHITE. oh n/m then.

Jobu
Jul 31, 2001, 10:00 AM
what the **** was that. i think i nearly puked trying to watch the periscope affect of using mac os x 10.1. the person who captured those should be shot. and it does not bode well for snapz pro X.

cmoney
Jul 31, 2001, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by RoofusPennymore
That was pretty impressive. Were those large brigtness and sound things in the middle of the screen from the keyboard buttons?

from the short time i got to play with 10.1 at mwny, those translucent volume controls were from the keyboard keys. unfortunately they only showed 10.1 on powermac g4s at mwny, so i didn't get to verify that they got powerbook keys working the same way. hopefully they do.

Huh?
Jul 31, 2001, 01:39 PM
What's up with the "big bounces" while IE is launching?

moki
Jul 31, 2001, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Jobu
what the **** was that. i think i nearly puked trying to watch the periscope affect of using mac os x 10.1. the person who captured those should be shot. and it does not bode well for snapz pro X.

How does one person's screen capture decision not bode well for Snapz Pro X? Take a look at one of these movies (recorded on a rather aging 350mhz blue & white g3 tower):

Genie animation captured: http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/cgi-bin/custom/imagedisplay.pl?image=spx_genie.mov

iTunes animation w/sound: http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/cgi-bin/custom/imagedisplay.pl?image=spx_itunes.mov

The person who made those videos chose a small area so that the download size wouldn't be huge, and so that the video capture wouldn't lag the screen display. Even with modern codecs like Sorenson, if he captured full-screen, you'd be downloading a 50mb file instead of a 1.2mb one. Seems like a good tradeoff to me...

Snapz Pro X offers a number of camera modes; the one you see here is merely one of them, and was a good choice to create a small video that people could easily download and check out.

When the world has a T1 to their door, bring on the full screen 20fps video! :)

Guest
Jul 31, 2001, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Hmm...
Well, all-in-all it looks quite promising. However, the window resizing still needs some work.

Newer builds are faster at sizing and app launching (even Omniweb does it in one bounce).

And this on a slower machine.

moki
Jul 31, 2001, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by arn
Andrew - don't know if you remember me... I remember chatting with you a lot on AOL... in fact this was while you were coding the original Snapz..

I was working on an arkanoid clone (spasm), but I never finished it.


Sure man, I remember ya. Time to dust off that Arkanoid clone and finish it, ain't it? (OS X native, of course ;) )

Cheezy
Jul 31, 2001, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by tywoods
try updating quick time to see if that will help ya

i have Version 5 QuickTime on OSX 10.04
and it works for me.

its just problably something you have to download first.


ty

I tried on both OS X 10.0.4 and OS 9.1, nothing works. Not even will my QT updater work or find anything to update...

Classic
Jul 31, 2001, 08:18 PM
Works fine on my Wintel Box running Windows 2000 and QT5.

Flow
Aug 1, 2001, 03:27 AM
The newest version of quicktime seems to be available ony for US-English systems. Could anyone post a converted version of these films (if they are really worth seeing)? Thanks!

Kela
Aug 1, 2001, 05:11 AM
OSX may look good but it is sickeningly sluggish with G3 400 Mhz machines. Atleast the lombard laptops. Very sad indeed. However, get a new 733 pm quiksilver and enjoy a very speedy osx. especially osx 10.1.

now i sleep

- Kela

kangggg
Aug 1, 2001, 11:28 AM
movies are currently down :(

MrMacMan
Aug 1, 2001, 08:28 PM
I'm to lazey to d/l the newest version and plus the movie is down. Anbody have a Copy of it and was it any good? If it was please post a reply.

Escher
Aug 2, 2001, 10:24 AM
Assuming that those two movies were indeed recorded on an iBook/500/256, it is a pleasure to see that 10.1 will be at least as fast as 9.1. Of course, this also assumes that your favorite apps have been carbonized and that your peripherals have OS X drivers. (Personally, I'm still waiting for Office 10, which should ship soon after OS X 10.1, and a driver for my Epson EPL-5700i laser printer.)

Escher

e Th eR B o B
Aug 3, 2001, 01:46 PM
Not british or anything, just pumped(well and I saw the movie Snatch last night, good accents there!)I'm buying an iBook 500/DVD this month tricking out the ram to at least 320MB, and replacing my faithful, but imobile, B&W G3 it's nice to know that I'll be able to run OS X in good form on this new machine, as I won't be able to upgrade for at 2 years, if not longer...

niedecker
Aug 15, 2001, 02:04 AM
Hey all, I got dem 10.1 movies here, up on my webserver:

http://64.212.122.86/movies/



Dig 'em!

MrMacMan
Aug 15, 2001, 09:43 PM
Thank you for putting them up.

NoMovies
Aug 16, 2001, 12:20 PM
The last IP address for the movies is done as well.. anyone else have them to show? :-)

Thanks a bunch!

MrMacMan
Aug 16, 2001, 09:36 PM
All of them are DOWN??? Damn. Is there some virus on these movies?