And if it isn't tomorrow?

[macaddicted]

So for all who are hoping for a MBP or MB upgrade for tomorrow, what will you do if it isn't announced tomorrow? And, alternately, if it isn't announced next week?

[viccles]

I say people will go insane from waiting :D

[iBookG4user]

Well they have until early October because that's when I'll have the money and if it isn't updated by then, I will be disapointed but I will get the MBP I can afford even if it is yonah. Which would be VERY unfortunate because I could really use the extra juice that Merom would give.

[stefman]

If it isn't announced tomorrow, I'll be sad, worried.

If it isn't announced next week, I'll be in trouble. My current PB has to be used for a project by the 3rd week of Sept and I was hoping to replace it with a shiny new MBP. I don't want to buy one next week to have the update the week after.

:eek: :D

[viccles]

Throw another spanner into the works. What if its announced tomorrow/next week but its not shipping for a month?

[shecky]

i will wait until whenever the merom lapzilla is announced and then buy it. :)

my hope is that we will see it tomorrow with the 12th being more ipod/itunes/imac stuff.

my guess is......... i have no idea.

[generik]

Well I just sold a Macbook at a $100 loss in preparation for the MBP, so I will be rather pissed off!

Then again I can probably buy a Merom Mini if it comes out during the expo :)

[SpaceMagic]

Sooner or later they're going to have to bring out a new iPod. It hasn't been updated for nearly a year and there are some bloody good mp3 players on the market!

[generik]

Sooner or later they're going to have to bring out a new iPod. It hasn't been updated for nearly a year and there are some bloody good mp3 players on the market!

But can you play your iTMS bought music library with those? :rolleyes:

[Silentwave]

I predict tomorrow will see a sharp uptick in the number of incidents of seppuku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku) among mac users/switchers.

[zap2]

God..I would love a new iPod...my 60Gb has a small space between the metal and plastic at the top. I'd love to buy a new iPod to replace it

[pianoman]

I predict tomorrow will see a sharp uptick in the number of incidents of seppuku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku) among mac users/switchers.

hopefully we as a community can control ourselves. i'm doubtful that we'll see anything until october and hopeful that we'll see something as early as next week. perhaps tomorrow will bring a quiet upgrade but nothing major.

speculation is what makes it fun :cool:

[poppe]

I'll just have to keep on waiting until September 25 when class starts...
Been waiting since the MBP 17" came out. I said well might as well wait until class starts. Can aquire more funds till then anyways... well i'm still waiting... and will be if they dont come out...

[matttrick]

i will cry

and then wait 1 more week

and then cry and pull the trigger

[macaddicted]

Throw another spanner into the works. What if its announced tomorrow/next week but its not shipping for a month?

Actually it was announced at WWDC, but the Apple PR guy was whispering and no one heard him. :D

[macaddicted]

i will cry

and then wait 1 more week

and then cry and pull the trigger

I suppose it's better than the seppuku mentioned above.

I predict tomorrow will see a sharp uptick in the number of incidents of seppuku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku) among mac users/switchers.

[viccles]

Actually it was announced at WWDC, but the Apple PR guy was whispering and no one heard him. :D

I see ;)

[Scarlet Fever]

Throw another spanner into the works. What if its announced tomorrow/next week but its not shipping for a month?
which is most likely going to happen...

i reckon the MPB/MBs are great as they are. sure, 64 bit sounds better than 32, but very few programs are written for 64 bit, so the performance boost is going to be small, if noticable at all. my 1.83GHz MacBook does everything i do exceptionally well, and i can assume a 2.16GHz would suffice fof most pros.

As the old saying goes; if you need one now, get one. if you can wait, wait!

[MattDell]

i will cry

and then wait 1 more week

and then cry and pull the trigger
That's my plan of attack. :cool:

[dmw007]

The world will come to an end as we now know it. :p ;) :D

[poppe]

Well keep on waiting for the Powerbook G5 instead

[FFTT]

Sucks having to make up your mind don't it?

I'd be prepared to hold through September 16th.

The Education Store promo ends on the 16th.

It's a leap of faith.

Some will fly too close to the sun and get burned.

[twoodcc]

Sucks having to make up your mind don't it?

I'd be prepared to hold through September 16th.

The Education Store promo ends on the 16th.

It's a leap of faith.

Some will fly too close to the sun and get burned.

i agree here

[viccles]

i agree here

Me too. As I've said previously why would they release new models with their promotion? I seriously doubt it. They would be wanting to get out as much old stock as they possibly can with this deal. Just makes sense to me :)

[Demon Hunter]

If Merom isn't announced, I'll probably hit a few pedestrians, to quell my rage.

No, really, I'll shrug and keep waiting.

[viccles]

If Merom isn't announced, I'll probably hit a few pedestrians, to quell my rage.

No, really, I'll shrug and keep waiting.

I like that :D

[jessica.]

So for all who are hoping for a MBP or MB upgrade for tomorrow, what will you do if it isn't announced tomorrow? And, alternately, if it isn't announced next week?
I giggle. :)
Really, I'm not in a position to buy right now anyway so I personally won't care.

[MattDell]

Me too. As I've said previously why would they release new models with their promotion? I seriously doubt it. They would be wanting to get out as much old stock as they possibly can with this deal. Just makes sense to me :)
Because their current promotion wouldn't affect new models?

[viccles]

Because their current promotion wouldn't affect new models?

Hmm I see your point. I don't know its all speculation

[iAlan]

...release upgrades at around the same time everyone else does - now Apple are playoing on the same court as other computer makers they can't be seen as 'behind'

that said...BRING IT/THEM ON (preferably THEM) :p

[Fearless Leader]

apple wants intrest to build up on our money so we have more to spend... forget that silly merom crap, this is the real truth :rolleyes:

good thing i dont own a gun though...:rolleyes:

[blueflame]

didnt read all the way down, someone beat me to the punch.
NEVERMIND MY POST.

[FFTT]

If it isn't tomorrow, I buy a MacBook White 2.0 GHz refurb.

$1099.00 is still a great price for that machine.

[viccles]

If it isn't tomorrow, I buy a MacBook White 2.0 GHz refurb.

$1099.00 is still a great price for that machine.

Gotta love the refurb. Does it come with added memory?

[bearbo]

Well they have until early October because that's when I'll have the money and if it isn't updated by then, I will be disapointed but I will get the MBP I can afford even if it is yonah. Which would be VERY unfortunate because I could really use the extra juice that Merom would give.
hmm... just so you don't get disappointed again, merom doesn't give much more juice than yonah. period. not at least until santa rosa will you even see anything substantial.

of course, that is unless you are among the 1% of people who really use your current mac to 99% most of the times (ibook... IBOOK? YOU USE IBOOK AND YOU THINK YOU'LL NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE? no offend to you personally, but the stuff you can run on ibook will not make a difference on mbp yonah and mbp merom)

also, if you are really among the 1% of ppl aforementioned, you would be using mac pro (or at least powermac g5, quad) instead of imac

again, no offend, but i really cannot stand every body to think that yonah is not gonna be enough for them for some reason, or that merom is gonna do something for them that yonah cannot... c'mon people, wake up, yonah 2.16 is an overkill for most of people already.

(yup i just said that)

[FFTT]

Gotta love the refurb. Does it come with added memory?

It's a crap shoot.

You get what ever it was originally shipped with.
Extra RAM, larger HD or even both sometimes
or nothing, it all depends.

[ddrueckhammer]

hmm... just so you don't get disappointed again, merom doesn't give much more juice than yonah. period. not at least until santa rosa will you even see anything substantial.

of course, that is unless you are among the 1% of people who really use your current mac to 99% most of the times (ibook... IBOOK? YOU USE IBOOK AND YOU THINK YOU'LL NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE? no offend to you personally, but the stuff you can run on ibook will not make a difference on mbp yonah and mbp merom)

also, if you are really among the 1% of ppl aforementioned, you would be using mac pro (or at least powermac g5, quad) instead of imac

again, no offend, but i really cannot stand every body to think that yonah is not gonna be enough for them for some reason, or that merom is gonna do something for them that yonah cannot... c'mon people, wake up, yonah 2.16 is an overkill for most of people already.

(yup i just said that)

If the 2.16 is overkill then Apple needs to just cut the prices on the Macbooks because most of their competition is well below $1000 for the same hardware and many include a DVD burner at that price. I mean OS X is the best OS hands down but how much is it worth? Someone I know just bought a Toshiba lappy for $599 with a 1.66 Core Duo, 80 Gb, 512 Mb, 802.11g, bluetooth, DVD-R. Is OSX worth that much? To me, $500 is a pretty big gap between the Toshiba she bought and a base Macbook. If they drop them or give me a little update (GPU, Black for free, DVD Burner, or Ram) then I will pay the difference. The only thing that can be said to be an asset to the Macbook besides OS X is the 13" instead of 15" screen but budget conscious consumers don't care much about that. I want to buy a Macbook soo bad but I don't want to feel like I'm being ripped off by Apple any more than usual...

[viccles]

It's a crap shoot.

You get what ever it was originally shipped with.
Extra RAM, larger HD or even both sometimes
or nothing, it all depends.

I know theres a 17" on the Aus Apple store that I nearly bought because it was the same price as I purchased my MBP for now with everything but I thought it is a little bit of russian roulette.

[Demon Hunter]

If the 2.16 is overkill then Apple needs to just cut the prices on the Macbooks because most of their competition is well below $1000 for the same hardware and many include a DVD burner at that price. I mean OS X is the best OS hands down but how much is it worth? Someone I know just bought a Toshiba lappy for $599 with a 1.66 Core Duo, 80 Gb, 512 Mb, 802.11g, bluetooth, DVD-R. Is OSX worth that much? I question that at the current prices but if they drop them or give me a little update (GPU, Black for free, DVD Burner, or Ram) then I will pay the difference. The only thing that can be said to be an asset to the Macbook besides OS X is the 13" instead of 15" screen but budget conscious consumers don't care much about that. I want to buy a Macbook soo bad but I don't want to feel like I'm being ripped off by Apple any more than usual...

You also pay for Apple's award-winning industrial design. What kind of "design" does that Toshiba have?






Yeah, that's what I thought.

[ddrueckhammer]

You also pay for Apple's award-winning industrial design. What kind of "design" does that Toshiba have?
Yeah, that's what I thought.

Wow, award winning design where we are getting reports of overheating Macbooks and Blackbooks peeling. This is another good reason to wait for Merom. I'm an engineering student. I'll give you three guesses as to what I think about architects and designers who take an aestetics only approach to design. Its gotta "just work" for me to pay the extra...:rolleyes: I guess the award winning design of the black paint is why people are paying extra for the blackbooks...Don't get me wrong, I love Apple products, but lately I am seriously questioning my loyalty. Whoever designed the latest Macintosh portables obviously didn't do too well in thermodynamics.

[FFTT]

If you've been around Apple products long enough, you know that Rev "A"
is for lab rats and crash test dummies.

Brilliant engineering sometimes suffers from poor implementation or just one
bad call selecting a third party component or supplier.

These are ALL transition machines regardless of your preferred platform.

I'm buying conservative because I know with all certainty that these machines will be leap frogged rapidly, but I can't make my girls wait forever.

If you're buying a cheap Windows based machine right now without Vista, you
could be in for a rude awakening.

At least I know that Tiger is fantastic and Leopard will run FINE on anything
Apple is selling right now.

[ddrueckhammer]

If you've been around Apple products long enough, you know that Rev "A"
is for lab rats and crash test dummies....

Good points...It just seems to me that Apple's design crew could do better. I could actually see paying extra for a Blackbook if they were as durable as an IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad but I don't get that feeling at all. All Apple products are beautiful but in my experience it is really sad when you get your first scratch or ding on such a beautiful product. Some (not all) of the Windows manufacturers make decent looking hardware that is actually much more durable than that Apple is putting out. Right now, the only tangible difference besides price that I can see is OS X. I could care less about Vista. I'm sure it will have plenty of bugs and I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole until they are worked out. XP is shaping up to be a pretty decent OS after all the patches though.

[FFTT]

Many Mac OSX users see beyond the purchase price and consider how running Mac OSX will save them time and hassle.

Many applications written for Mac OSX also work much better than their
Windows counterparts.

What is your time worth?

Do you maintain your own system or does someone from IT handle it?

Do you have a deep and personal relationship with Geek Squad?

How secure is your data and how confident are you that you know when your
data has been compromised.

What is your privacy worth?

What is peace of mind worth?

[JMies419]

Many Mac OSX users see beyond the purchase price and consider how running Mac OSX will save them time and hassle.

Many applications written for Mac OSX also work much better than their
Windows counterparts.

What is your time worth?

Do you maintain your own system or does someone from IT handle it?

Do you have a deep and personal relationship with Geek Squad?

How secure is your data and how confident are you that you know when your
data has been compromised.

What is your privacy worth?

What is peace of mind worth?


Amen.

[generik]

hmm... just so you don't get disappointed again, merom doesn't give much more juice than yonah. period. not at least until santa rosa will you even see anything substantial.

of course, that is unless you are among the 1% of people who really use your current mac to 99% most of the times (ibook... IBOOK? YOU USE IBOOK AND YOU THINK YOU'LL NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE? no offend to you personally, but the stuff you can run on ibook will not make a difference on mbp yonah and mbp merom)

also, if you are really among the 1% of ppl aforementioned, you would be using mac pro (or at least powermac g5, quad) instead of imac

again, no offend, but i really cannot stand every body to think that yonah is not gonna be enough for them for some reason, or that merom is gonna do something for them that yonah cannot... c'mon people, wake up, yonah 2.16 is an overkill for most of people already.

(yup i just said that)

Sorry, you are sadly mistaken. Yonah to Merom is THE big leap. From Merom to Santa Rosa? Yawn, who cares. 133Mhz in bus speed? We've seen even more substantial leaps from 533Mhz to 667Mhz.

[FFTT]

The Santa Rosa upgrade is more about heat and energy conservation
than performance.

These guys are working towards an average battery life of 8 hours
with reduced heat while still keeping performance respectable.

I have absolutely no clue if we're talking dual core or quad core since
I think these processors will be 45 nm

[j26]

And what time will we know today if anything is happening?

<scratches itchy finger>

[displaced]

Sorry, you are sadly mistaken. Yonah to Merom is THE big leap. From Merom to Santa Rosa? Yawn, who cares. 133Mhz in bus speed? We've seen even more substantial leaps from 533Mhz to 667Mhz.

It's not a leap from Merom to Santa Rosa. Santa Rosa is simply the platform that fully uses Merom's abilities.

The problem with current Merom systems is that it's a Merom CPU in an architecture that dates back to Yonah. Personally speaking, Yonahs are stonkingly quick for what I need. At this point, an increase in raw CPU performance of even 15% simply isn't enough to make me desire a new machine. Also, without Santa Rosa, the Merom's advanced power management isn't used -- all the power saving you see over Yonah at the moment is mainly due to design and packaging changes, not because of Merom's technology. I don't know about you, but I have a problem buying into a new CPU if part of what makes it better is going to sit there unused because the rest of the system doesn't know how to use it.

I'd rather wait another 7-8 months (a whole *OMG* 32 weeks! *OMG*!) and have a 15%-20% speed increase, 8 hour battery life, increased system respose from the Robson technology, a clockspeed jump and price drop on the Merom itself (probably increasing that 15-20% figure), and all the other cool stuff Apple will wedge into a 1" thick laptop at that time.

[edit: Oh, and another thing, Merom's 64-bititude isn't even going to get fully exploited until Leopard is released. Considering Leopard's scheduled for Spring 2007 last thing I heard, that fits in nicely with Merom+Santa Rosa's availability. Buying new hardware at that point's a nice trick, since if you were planning to buy Leopard anyway, you can essentially discount $129 from the new machine's price]

Don't get me wrong, I think the Core 2 Duo is a fantastic processor, but seeing as I already own a Yonah MBP, the jump from Yonah to Merom without the benefits of the Santa Rosa platform just isn't enough to bother me.

Of course, if I were sitting with a 1.33 GHz PowerBook G4, I might be tempted by the upcoming Meroms. But, I'd probably be even more tempted to hold tight until the whole Core 2 Duo platform is available in a short while.

[cossie]

I'm getting quite antsy myself at the moment about what the big announcement will be.

I'm hoping it'll be a CPU upgrade for the MB/MPBs - whether it be a Merom or a speed bump - because i'm heading back to college at the end of September and I want to get the best value for money.

I don't want to have my Mac arrive and then find out that the Meroms will be shipping in a month's time...i will be enormously p.o.'d if that happens! I got stung like that with a Dell machine, had it about 2 weeks when Dell released a faster CPU model with more RAM for the same price! :mad:

I'm sure some people here might say "Serves you right for buying Dell!" :D

[Foggy]

My father is waiting to buy my Vaio off me which will fund my MBP purchase. We are waiting for a particular client to pay their bill and when that happens I need to order the MBP, I am just hoping that the Merom is in there by then. It would be frustrating to miss it.

[MacSA]

So for all who are hoping for a MBP or MB upgrade for tomorrow, what will you do if it isn't announced tomorrow? And, alternately, if it isn't announced next week?

Heyyyyyyyyyy .... Tuesday, 5th September is going to be Mac Mini day!!! lol

[mr?]

I will be mightily pissed off as i have just bought a MB on Sunday.

I reckon the iPods will be late September/October. The first iPod was October 2001 so it will tye in with the 5 year anniversary.

[danielbriggs]

Hi!

I know most of you are "US" folkes etc. So what time GMT in the UK is the right kinda time for "Tuesday launch time" as it's 11:15 and nothing has changed in the store yet.

I'm about as much use as a chocolate teapot when it comes to time zones etc.! :D


Dan :-)

[MacSA]

Hi!

I know most of you are "US" folkes etc. So what time GMT in the UK is the right kinda time for "Tuesday launch time" as it's 11:15 and nothing has changed in the store yet.

I'm about as much use as a chocolate teapot when it comes to time zones etc.! :D


Dan :-)

It usually goes offline about 1.30pm in the UK.

[Caesar0801]

I figure, if it doesn't come today, the best bet would be on the 12th of Septembre... with Apple Expo in Paris.

if it doesn't get announced by then, I'll buy myself an simple core duo mbp anyway... my old laptop gave up on me (not apple...)

grtz,

Julien

[Markleshark]

Mac Minis... Come on...

[21stcenturykid]

Thankfully i can write (a bit:P) so if the meroms are not unleashed on the mac community soon ill have to buy a pen and paper for the first week of uni starting 25th sept!:eek:

[generik]

I'm getting quite antsy myself at the moment about what the big announcement will be.

I'm hoping it'll be a CPU upgrade for the MB/MPBs - whether it be a Merom or a speed bump - because i'm heading back to college at the end of September and I want to get the best value for money.

I don't want to have my Mac arrive and then find out that the Meroms will be shipping in a month's time...i will be enormously p.o.'d if that happens! I got stung like that with a Dell machine, had it about 2 weeks when Dell released a faster CPU model with more RAM for the same price! :mad:

I'm sure some people here might say "Serves you right for buying Dell!" :D

"Serves you right for buying Dell!"

[Foggy]

Thankfully i can write (a bit:P) so if the meroms are not unleashed on the mac community soon ill have to buy a pen and paper for the first week of uni starting 25th sept!:eek:

Since leaving Uni (where no-one really had laptops) I can write about 10 lines with a pen and paper before getting writers cramp and having to stop for a break :eek: I can type forever though!

[limejuice]

canada 4 12 am..
i couldnt sleep..

when are they gonna update the news?
any clue?

i really wish to see MBP updates..
if they did not update..
i gonna jump from my building already =.="

[21stcenturykid]

Since leaving Uni (where no-one really had laptops) I can write about 10 lines with a pen and paper before getting writers cramp and having to stop for a break :eek: I can type forever though!

I dotn have that problem its just if i was to hand work in that was handwritten i would probably lose more marks purely because noone can read my writing! its like the last effort of a dying spider bleeding across some paper!:p

[tekmoe]

don't think it's going to happen today guys. when macbooks were released, the UK store was already down at this very exact time.

[Chundles]

don't think it's going to happen today guys. when macbooks were released, the UK store was already down at this very exact time.

Yeah, but it was down for ages - about two hours or so.

The store usually goes down at 10:30pm my time/1:30pm London time. Still about an hour left. It has been later too, I'd say between 10:30pm and 11:30pm my time. (GMT+10).

Wait a little longer, most of the time I've watched the store come back online after midnight so we've got a while yet to go.

[tekmoe]

i see..

well in that case, bring on the mbp's! ;)

in all seriousness, i hope they release them but i am not holding my breath like some people. want want want want want...not a need...

[reflex]

Another Tuesday, another day spent checking if the Apple Store is down constantly (or almost, the browser has to refresh) :)

[James Craner]

Unfortunately I don't think it is going to be today the UK store normally goes down about 12.00 local time and it is now 12.43. Sometimes it goes down a little after 12.00 but not normally this late.

[Markleshark]

Its strange, Ive waited almost 3 months for Test Drive: Unlimited on the 360 but I can't wait a fecking week, I'm diein to order me new Mini...

[MacSA]

LOL.....everyone wants something different. :eek:

[anim8or]

Unfortunately I don't think it is going to be today the UK store normally goes down about 12.00 local time and it is now 12.43. Sometimes it goes down a little after 12.00 but not normally this late.


I really dont think there is a science to when the store goes down. I know they generally update everyhting at certain times but al the pages will have been designed etc ready to go up....

...they could wait til the 11th hour and still.....

....but i doubt that today will be the day as much as i wanted it to be :(

[technicolor]

You guys are funny, it is very very early on the West Coast. I am in Central time and its just now 7:00 am in the morning, and I think they are 2 or 3 hours behind us. Us Americans, are just now waking up!
Have some patience:D

[JAXE MAC]

It's 5 AM in Cuppertino-- Jobs is still asleep. :)
Few more hours though.

[21stcenturykid]

It's 5 AM in Cuppertino-- Jobs is still asleep. :)
Few more hours though.
Anyone volunteer to go wake him up???:p

[JAXE MAC]

Sorry, about a 3 hour drive for me.

[Chundles]

Anyone volunteer to go wake him up???:p

Yeah alright, I s'pose I'll do it...

*trudges off to get saucepan and wooden spoon*

[iBookG4user]

hmm... just so you don't get disappointed again, merom doesn't give much more juice than yonah. period. not at least until santa rosa will you even see anything substantial.

of course, that is unless you are among the 1% of people who really use your current mac to 99% most of the times (ibook... IBOOK? YOU USE IBOOK AND YOU THINK YOU'LL NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE? no offend to you personally, but the stuff you can run on ibook will not make a difference on mbp yonah and mbp merom)

also, if you are really among the 1% of ppl aforementioned, you would be using mac pro (or at least powermac g5, quad) instead of imac

again, no offend, but i really cannot stand every body to think that yonah is not gonna be enough for them for some reason, or that merom is gonna do something for them that yonah cannot... c'mon people, wake up, yonah 2.16 is an overkill for most of people already.

(yup i just said that)

Yes, I'll notice the difference and my iBook is just my main computer because I own it that doesn't mean that I don't have access to the intel iMac in my sig. With what I do, I can easily max out the processor on the iMac. Just because I'm on a slower computer doesn't mean that I won't use the extra juice that merom gives. And just so you know the iMac is the same speed and sometimes faster than the current MBP :rolleyes:. Also I'm waiting for the merom MBP because there will most likely be GPU upgrades, easy access hard drives, DL superdrive (yes I sometimes need to use those) and maybe a 160GB hard drive as a BTO option. Here's a scenario for you to comprehend, I have the same file and my iBook takes over 45 minutes to encode it while my iMac takes less than 5 minutes to encode it and a merom MBP may take around 4 minutes, I have seven of those files now which of those would you want to encode the file with? Obviously the merom MBP because it will do it 7 minutes faster than the iMac and 287 minutes faster than the iBook. As I said before just because I use an iBook as my main computer doesn't mean I won't notice a difference in speed. And anyway why would I want to settle for 9 month old technology when there is brand new technology coming next tuesday?

[MacSA]

Well I guess some of you can go back to bed now..... ;)

[aswitcher]

Sunrise San Fran is coming up quick

[Chundles]

Well I guess some of you can go back to bed now..... ;)

Yup, move along folks, nothing to see here.

You guys all head off to bed/lunch/breakfast and I'll watch the screen for you.

[dalvin200]

Sunrise San Fran is coming up quick

what time is it in SA now? 6:30am? (13:35 UK BST right now)

[iBookG4user]

what time is it in SA now? 6:30am? (13:35 UK BST right now)
It's 5:30AM here in PST (Cupertino time)

[netdog]

It's 5:30AM here in PST (Cupertino time)

While the 12th seems logical, for those hoping, the store would be going down shortly.

[dalvin200]

It's 5:30AM here in PST (Cupertino time)

so they may update the store while i'm asleep?

my dreams may come true :P lol!!

i'll believe it when i see it at the store.. all the new and updated products plus all the wonderful ideas spreading aruond the web atm..

wicked wicked.. junglist massive!

[aswitcher]

While the 12th seems logical, for those hoping, the store would be going down shortly.

So your saying netdog that the store will be going down in the next few minutes?

[21stcenturykid]

haha thought i had something then the UK store normally loads imediately for me but took liek 15 seconds! then it loaded :( i got all excited :p

[dalvin200]

haha thought i had something then the UK store normally loads imediately for me but took liek 15 seconds! then it loaded :( i go all excited :p

did the same for me about half hour ago.. :P

[MacSA]

It's likely somewhere in the World, the store would have gone offline by now if we were going to see new products today. :( Perhaps we'll see new iMacs on the 12th and other updates in the weeks following it.

[tekmoe]

not sure why but i cannot pull up the apple store. apple.com loads but the store page will not load.

[tekmoe]

maybe there is a gazillion other people trying to do the same thing i am doing. :D

[aswitcher]

not sure why but i cannot pull up the apple store. apple.com loads but the store page will not load.

Works fine for me in USA, Aus and UK

[dalvin200]

not sure why but i cannot pull up the apple store. apple.com loads but the store page will not load.

http://www.apple.com/store

you get apple page cannot be found!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but the UK store is still up..

i guess there might be a delay with other stioers going down..

can this be the start of updates?

[Markleshark]

Working fine for me...

[dalvin200]

Working fine for me...

i'm still getting page not found with a custom 404 error page displayed..

[technicolor]

i'm still getting page not found with a custom 404 error page displayed..
you arent using the right link

[aswitcher]

i'm still getting page not found with a custom 404 error page displayed..

Thats not what you see when the store is closed. Something else is wrong.

[Markleshark]

US Store wont seem to load, maybe just high traffic... UK still works fine

[dalvin200]

Thats not what you see when the store is closed. Something else is wrong.

now i can't even get to the store page - maybe everyone is hitting it and its veerrryy slloowwww?

i just thought the error page would come just before we see the "be back soon" graphic.. like.. we caught them in the process of taking the store down?

[21stcenturykid]

page error for me too :) please please please let this be the updates!!

[dunc85]

That because you're going to the wrong page. The link is:

http://www.apple.com/store/

Edit: although, now the actual link isn't working. So many people checking I guess :p

[dalvin200]

That because you're going to the wrong page. The link is:

http://www.apple.com/store/

yeah, that's what i meant ;-)

[aswitcher]

Aus and UK are fine for me...USA seems to have serving problems...smells of geek overload.

USA just took 60 secs to load...definetly Geek overload

[MacSA]

You've killed the Apple Store lol :eek: :eek:

[21stcenturykid]

the US store is failing to open now but mayeb its 'cos of us all being really sad and constantly checking it?? lol

[Chundles]

Aus and UK are fine for me...USA seems to have serving problems...smells of geek overload.

Yep, everytime I click the button there's a whiff of Lynx body spray.

[technicolor]

Yo you fuggers are crashing the US store!
Stop refreshing!
LMAO!:D

[dalvin200]

lol.. that will get Jobs out of bed then :P

[dunc85]

I need to get on there so I can buy my pre-Merom MBP just before the updates are released! Then I can moan to everyone on here who said not to wait.

[aswitcher]

Yep, everytime I click the button there's a whiff of Lynx body spray.


Gotta get me an iSmell.

[generik]

The slashdot effect eh?

The US store is indeed down!

[dalvin200]

I need to get on there so I can buy my pre-Merom MBP just before the updates are released! Then I can moan to everyone on here who said not to wait.

:D LMAO

rap.. my F5 keys seems to be STUCK on the keydown psoition!!!!

[Markleshark]

and it would seem as if you've killed the UK Store as well... maybe, just maybe...

[dalvin200]

and it would seem as if you've killed the UK Store as well... maybe, just maybe...

nah.. UK one is still up

[thworple]

and it would seem as if you've killed the UK Store as well... maybe, just maybe...


Yeah, I'm having problems with it too. It loads, but is really struggling.

[generik]

nah.. UK one is still up

Let's go kill it as well!

[dunc85]

I thought they always put something up like this page:

http://www.babilim.co.uk/blog/jpg/apple_store_down_12oct05.jpg

You know its just some kind of sick joke by the Apple website guys.....

[21stcenturykid]

Why don't we all just give it about 10-15 mins and see what happens then instead of overloading apples servers???:p

[Foggy]

Let's go kill it as well!

Its borked for me

[dalvin200]

you would of thought the stores would be able to handle the amount of bandwidth/load coming in right? i mean.. say for example: 100 ppl loading the page at he same time.. ?

i dunno.. i'm not that technical, but i would of assumed so..

[fastlane1588]

yea Im wondering if its just a ton of people going and checking the site that caused it to go down....but im still hoping that apple is changing something!

[Foggy]

Why don't we all just give it about 10-15 mins and see what happens then instead of overloading apples servers???:p

Revenge? :D

[Foggy]

UK one seems to be back and running fine again - the gits :mad:

[aswitcher]

Tomorrows headline

"Mac Geeks rampage of desire brings Apple Stores to their knees as unfulfilled lust for new Mac hardware knocks over all English speaking stores"

[enda1]

Screw that this is a rumors site, lets speculate!!

Meroms now!

There is too much to announce next week anyways!

[Markleshark]

UK one is alive again now. It doesnt matter that im adding to it, it doesnt count coz im just looking to see if other people have killed it... ;)

[aswitcher]

UK one seems to be back and running fine again - the gits :mad:


Uk is dead for me.

[generik]

you would of thought the stores would be able to handle the amount of bandwidth/load coming in right? i mean.. say for example: 100 ppl loading the page at he same time.. ?

i dunno.. i'm not that technical, but i would of assumed so..

Thing is you are making an assumption here, are you sure it is only 100 people? :D

[dunc85]

oooh, I just got this error:

Can't connect to application instance

What can it mean? Meroms?! It must be!

[Markleshark]

I get... Can't connect to application instance... on US... Not quite the update we were looking for...

[Foggy]

I cant believe how eager I am to part with almost £2k :confused:

[dalvin200]

wouldn't it be funny if they had a CLOSED sign hanging off the store? :D

[dalvin200]

I cant believe how eager I am to part with almost £2k :confused:

part it my way.. i'm in need.. i'm poor!!

[aswitcher]

Uk back up but USA saying "Can't connect to application instance"

[generik]

wouldn't it be funny if they had a CLOSED sign hanging off the store? :D

The server is probably too overwhelmed to even display the closed sign :D

[tekmoe]

it's now a 500 internal server error i am getting. weird stuff.

[suneohair]

Jeez, I wake up and you guys have crashed the Apple Store. Crazy

They better announce something now, hopefully they can see how many people are waiting to give them money.

[dalvin200]

it's now a 500 internal server error i am getting. weird stuff.

weird as in DIFFERENT?

THINK DIFFERENT? ;)

[Chundles]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we've broken the internet.

[Markleshark]

We've burned it out. It's dead... We'll never be able to buy a Mac again...

...Dell site still works...

[thworple]

Well this thread is brightening up an otherwise dull afternoon at work. Hillarious that people wet themselves over the Apple Store not working.

I love it!!! ;)

[fastlane1588]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we've broken the internet.
thats not good, now how are we going to find out if the new mbp was released or not! quick someone fix the internet, quick al gore! help us!

[dalvin200]

We've burned it out. It's dead... We'll never be able to buy a Mac again...

...Dell site still works...

haha.. all our IP addresses are gonna be blacklisted!! :P

[aswitcher]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we've broken the internet.

Clogged the pipes I think you mean.

[shecky]

we better settle down or the tubes might spring a leak!

[Chundles]

thats not good, now how are we going to find out if the new mbp was released or not! quick someone fix the internet, quick al gore! help us!

I'm ducking down to the hardware store to get a new tube.

[enda1]

Updating The Store

Back Soon.

Yes!!!

[dalvin200]

wow.. this thread has got about 70% share of the new forum spy page.. lol!!

[tekmoe]

Nice*&@^$#(*&^t#@!*&q#w*@)&t)*#@q$

[Jawbreaker]

I'm now seeing the normal closed for update page. Maybe this is for real?

[aswitcher]

So how much does this cost Apple a minute to not have their USA store up?

[shecky]

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

[suneohair]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we've broken the internet.

I'd like to thank MacRumors for this wonderful opportunity. Without you guys, this would have never been possible. I just wanted to get rid of myspace, but thanks to everyones vigilance, we have gone further.

Al Gore will now have to create a new internet, this will give us time to plan our revolution. Get your hockey puck mice ready, it is gonna get messy.

[tekmoe]

Udpating Store Be Back Soon!#@!$

Woooooooohoooooooooooooooooo

[dunc85]

:eek:

[suneohair]

Zomg They Are Updating The Site!!!!

The Sign Is Up!!!

[dalvin200]

Updating The Store

Back Soon.

Yes!!!


SEE? i knew it!! we caught them in the process of updating :) and inadvertently (?) screwed it up :P

uk store still up tho? :-/

[FFTT]

IT's Official Apple Store U.S. IS UPDATING

http://images.apple.com/r/store/backsoon/title_backsoon.gif

[dunc85]

Well, now they better get working on the UK store. If they dont sort it quick, I'll be flying myself over to the US.

Or maybe it's just for something crap, like an Apple mug.

[aswitcher]

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yep... I just wonder if its the real deal or server issues

[matttrick]

WOHOOOO!!!!

http://images.apple.com/r/store/backsoon/title_backsoon.gif

[shecky]

Yep... I just wonder if its the real deal or server issues

good point. a boy can dream though.....

















wow. i need to get out more.

[MacSA]

They've proabbly called in an army of tecnhicians to fix it lol

[J@ffa]

YESSSSSS!*

*Even though I'm in the UK. If they add a new front page pic or something I will be mightily upset!

[thworple]

Well, now they better get working on the UK store. If they dont sort it quick, I'll get flying myself over to the US.

Or maybe it's just for something crap, like an Apple mug.


Complete with usb cable for heating your cup of tea!

[louden]

I hope they're in the stores right now...

[suneohair]

This probably kills the idea of a MBP redesign, considering Apple would probably have an event or something.

I guess they are just sticking Merom in it, if they are indeed updating. Which is cool too.

[Foggy]

They prob just put that up to get us back and will come back with no changes!

I hope to god it is the merom update though! Can finally switch to Mac :D

[aswitcher]

Complete with usb cable for heating your cup of tea!


I would buy that ;)

[technicolor]

OMG its down for real now!

[Foggy]

Although UK store is still up :mad:

[Chundles]

Hmm, every store except the US store is up. I think they just had to turn it off so we'd go away.

Quick everyone, to the Australian store, let's break that one too!

[reflex]

The Belgium store isn't updating at this time, so I don't think it's a product update (even though I hope it is).

[louden]

Actually, what do they usually do - update the store first, then the hardware pages, or vice versa?

[^squirrel^]

*Rubs hands together*

Here we go gents....what could it be?

:D

Just placed an order for a 20"iMac about 30 mins ago. I did ask them about the new iMac 23" or C2D and she said that they know nothing but if there was a new model then we would be upgraded for free.

[FFTT]

It' It's It's

The all new Apple Heat Sink Coffee Mug! :D

[Chundles]

I would buy that ;)

Back of the line, no pushing in.

[anim8or]

This probably kills the idea of a MBP redesign, considering Apple would probably have an event or something.

I guess they are just sticking Merom in it, if they are indeed updating. Which is cool too.


There was no media event for the macbook and that was as much of a redesign to the ibook as the macbook pro design updates would be......!

[^squirrel^]

It' It's It's

The all new Apple Heat Sink Coffee Mug! :D

I thought that's what the MBP's palm rest was for?

;)

[tekmoe]

There was no media event for the macbook and that was as much of a redesign to the ibook as the macbook pro design updates would be......!

that's exactly what i was going to say.

[jubjub]

Isn't the U.S. store usually the last one to go down?

(The Swedish store is up to)

[enda1]

On the hardware page...

The Apple Store. Open 24 hours a day every day, the Apple Store offers online convenience.

HAH :)

[reflex]

Forum Spy comes in handy now :)

[aswitcher]

Maybe its a USA store only thing, like the rumoured Movie downloads...

[suneohair]

that's exactly what i was going to say.


I realize that, I just want to hear Steve Jobs talk about it.

[ImNoSuperMan]

I dont see any thing?

US store is up. And it`s just showing MAc ads. Nothing here.

[dresk11]

the apple store is down in canada as well..


can't wait to see...

[Chimera]

Isn't it usually international stores first and then the US one that goes down?:o

[tekmoe]

the apple store is down in canada as well..


can't wait to see...

nice...

[4God]

iTunes? or maybe a Mini refresh?

[MacSA]

Hmmm so it's still only the US store offline. Maybe it IS broken lol :eek:

[generik]

:(

[aswitcher]

the apple store is down in canada as well..


can't wait to see...

Could just be on the same server farms as the US store...

[dunc85]

http://duncanhalley.co.uk/Images/misc/applestore.jpg

If I keep hitting refresh, that makes the store-updater guys work faster, right?

[anim8or]

Isn't it usually international stores first and then the US one that goes down?:o

I have said it once before but i will say it again.

There is most likely NO rhyme or reason as to how the stores are updated ie an order in which the stores are taken down!

This is most likely to divert people away from the store cos users have overloaded the server whch will have crashed.

Keeping my fingers crssed that it is an update tho!:D

[tekmoe]

http://duncanhalley.co.uk/Images/misc/applestore.jpg

hehehehehe

[reflex]

This is most likely to divert people away from the store cos users have overloaded the server whch will have crashed.

If so, I doubt it's working :)

[Oryan]

http://duncanhalley.co.uk/Images/misc/applestore.jpg
That's hilarious!

[ImNoSuperMan]

http://duncanhalley.co.uk/Images/misc/applestore.jpg
LOL. Fantastic

[fastlane1588]

http://duncanhalley.co.uk/Images/misc/applestore.jpg

If I keep hitting refresh, that makes the store-updater guys work faster, right?
yes that is what i am expecting! well more like hoping for

[anim8or]

If so, I doubt it's working :)


I agree!!!!:D

[Midgetinabikini]

damn...i hope its the new MBP

[technicolor]

http://duncanhalley.co.uk/Images/misc/applestore.jpg

If I keep hitting refresh, that makes the store-updater guys work faster, right?
Yes it shocks them a little every time we refresh.

Great opening graphic too, hilarious!

[louden]

I'd tell you all to get a life! :)

[J@ffa]

http://duncanhalley.co.uk/Images/misc/applestore.jpg

If I keep hitting refresh, that makes the store-updater guys work faster, right?

Brilliant!

Or they just repost the online store with a massive 'PWN3D!!!' across the MBPs.

[enda1]

Australia and Austria have the same contact number.

This definitely means merom!!

[matttrick]

i took a 5 min shower and this topic grew 3 pages lol

[aswitcher]

Its late here downunder and I think its a North American server farm issue, so I'll see you all in the morning. Maybe next Tuesday...

[reflex]

Australia and Austria have the same contact number.

This definitely means merom!!

Care to explain the relation between those two statements? :confused:

[MovieCutter]

Care to explain the relation between those two statements? :confused:

It's a joke

[thworple]

Australia and Austria have the same contact number.

This definitely means merom!!


You're logic is perplexing, but yeah, ok - I'll get onboard with that!! ;)

[fastlane1588]

Its late here downunder and I think its a North American server farm issue, so I'll see you all in the morning. Maybe next Tuesday...
no, no it cant be! it has to be mbp! it HAS TO BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dunc85]

Care to explain the relation between those two statements? :confused:

If you take each of the phone numbers, add up the digits in each one, multiply by 3, then convert it to ASCII letters, it gives a secret message ;)

[reflex]

It's a joke

And what an obvious one it was too... :p

[Chundles]

Australia and Austria have the same contact number.

This definitely means merom!!


133 MAC - yep, it's the same. Ages ago they had Österreich next to the Aussie flag. Reminded me of "Dumb and Dumber" - "Oh, Austria, weeelll, Gudday Mayte, lets chuck another sha-rimp on the baahhbie."

[tekmoe]

lol

[enda1]

It was really a rather clever satire at the fact that every little annomally that occurs, people point at it saying MEROMS ARE COMING, MEROMS ARE COMING.

or

short version: joke

;)

[JPark]

Its late here downunder and I think its a North American server farm issue...

Isn't that heresy? I'm just going to keep repeating my mantra:
"I believe, I believe. It's silly, but I believe."

[MacSA]

Hmmm the US store is usually the last to go offline..still no sign of other countries going offline?

[DRewPi]

bring on the new stuff !!!! but how long are they goin to take ???

It depends .. on what they are updating !!! comin new minissss and a bunch of new MBP C2D TO GO.... i'll take a doggy bag please !!! :D :D :D

[thworple]

133 MAC - yep, it's the same. Ages ago they had Österreich next to the Aussie flag. Reminded me of "Dumb and Dumber" - "Oh, Austria, weeelll, Gudday Mayte, lets chuck another sha-rimp on the baahhbie."


I thought that film was a documentary! :eek: ;)

[J@ffa]

MacBook Pros this tuesday?

[reflex]

It was really a rather clever satire at the fact that every little annomally that occurs, people point at it saying MEROMS ARE COMING, MEROMS ARE COMING.

or

short version: joke

;)

Trouble is there are people who actually reason like that, so it's a bit tricky to spot the fake ones :)

[bep207]

perhaps they have a low volume of C2D MBP available and they are making then available to the US TODAY and ship worldwide in the next week or two
that would really give apple a step up on dell and others who arent shipping for a week

[Chundles]

I thought that film was a documentary! :eek: ;)

Wait, IT ISN'T??? :eek: :confused: :(

[technicolor]

I just want a new ipod.

[thworple]

perhaps they have a low volume of C2D MBP available and they are making then available to the US TODAY and ship worldwide in the next week or two
that would really give apple a step up on dell and others who arent shipping for a week


It would also destroy the sales in stores worldwide, with buyers over here in the UK and elsewhere knowing full well that its pointless to buy until our respective stores are updated too!!

[Foggy]

perhaps they have a low volume of C2D MBP available and they are making then available to the US TODAY and ship worldwide in the next week or two
that would really give apple a step up on dell and others who arent shipping for a week

Not in Europe it bloody wouldnt!!!

[louden]

I just want a new ipod.

A new ipod needs a public display with fanfare - an update to the mbp just needs a store refresh, and the news will spread.

Now the question is - will they be in stock immediately?

[NATO]

I dunno, I wouldn't get your hopes up, the big updates tend to pull a lot of the international stores down at the same time.

/Waits to be proved wrong within the hour :rolleyes:

[GCY]

if its today then WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
I ordered a macbook from amazon more than a week ago, its gonna be here today!!. If there is a new macbook, I could easily return it brand new and get the latest model.
If it isn't, then I'm screwed. Its my first mac. what should I do?
Keep it or return it?(if theres no new macbook today)
plz help!!!

[tekmoe]

It would also destroy the sales in stores worldwide, with buyers over here in the UK and elsewhere knowing full well that its pointless to buy until our respective stores are updated too!!

if sony and microsoft can do it for gaming consoles, apple can do it with computers.

[dalvin200]

damn.. i was called into emergency meeting and i come back and there are 2 more pages to this thread.. lol!!

altho the UK store is still UP!!

so i'm assuming this isn't a product update? and that they only put that page up cos of the tech probs..

(sorry, ididnt get time to read thru those 2 pages of posts!! lol)

[21stcenturykid]

I dont even care if it doesnt ship immediately i just want to order my MBP so its deffinate!!!!:D

has the.. "within the hour" updates time passed yet??

[thworple]

if sony and microsoft can do it for gaming consoles, apple can do it with computers.

Except they're changing their policies on these as well. The Xbox 360 got a worldwide launch, and the PS3 is expected to have the same.

[bep207]

somebody call
1800myapple and ask why the store is down

[fastlane1588]

has the.. "within the hour" updates time passed yet??
its been 25 minutes or so....

[dalvin200]

somebody call
1800myapple and ask why the store is down

i'm not in the US ;) y dont u? :P

[fastlane1588]

somebody call
1800myapple and ask why the store is down
i tried that durring wwdc and they jsut said that they didnt kno until the new website was up

[Chundles]

Except they're changing their policies on these as well. The Xbox 360 got a worldwide launch, and the PS3 is expected to have the same.

360 didn't get a worldwide launch, we waited for much longer than the US and Europe.

[reflex]

its been 25 minutes or so....

Now we know what it feels like in the Matrix when they do that slow motion thing :)

[xfiftyfour]

gosh i hate the suspense of this stuff. it's just like during the keynote.. "STEVE! STOP TALKING! I want the store to come back online so we can see what's NEW!!"

[MacSA]

Im starting to think this is some kind of maintenance.... When there are product updates, they've always followed the same pattern. Stores in Europe often go down first, one by one, the US store often goes offline as much as 20 minutes later. And it's 3pm here in the UK now, its usually all over by now.

[bep207]

lets try to break another country store. which one will it be this time......

[dalvin200]

gosh i hate the suspense of this stuff. it's just like during the keynote.. "STEVE! STOP TALKING! I want the store to come back online so we can see what's NEW!!"

but why would they only update the US store and not others?

[21stcenturykid]

You know the sayin "curiosity killed the cat" ? well its gonna be changed to "anticipation killed the mac community" soon:p

[thworple]

360 didn't get a worldwide launch, we waited for much longer than the US and Europe.


Sorry - I stand corrected - what I mean is they're starting to narrow down the launchdates acrosss the globe.

[dalvin200]

Im starting to think this is some kind of maintenance.... When there are product updates, they've always followed the same pattern. Stores in Europe often go down first, one by one, the US store often goes offline as much as 20 minutes later. And it's 3pm here in the UK now, its usually all over by now.

EXACTLY!!

[ImNoSuperMan]

360 didn't get a worldwide launch, we waited for much longer than the US and Europe.

Cant compare it to Apple notebooks/computers. A console is updated once in 4 years. Whereas the computer can be updated twice a year.

[backsidetailsli]

canadian store too/

[roland.g]

has it been a hour yet?

[reflex]

gosh i hate the suspense of this stuff. it's just like during the keynote.. "STEVE! STOP TALKING! I want the store to come back online so we can see what's NEW!!"

Good point. I'm going to prepare my dinner, at least then I won't think about this and it'll all be over when I'm back.

I might even get some work done then.

[xfiftyfour]

but why would they only update the US store and not others?
uhm. cause we're more special..? :p ;)

no no just teasin.. sorry, i just got back from class and when i saw the US store down i assumed all of 'em were. haven't read backwards much to find out all the details.