Kid puts a big pocket knife against my stomach in school...

[twistedlegato]

Ok...
Today my point of view of people changed entirely.

In school today something happened in my Language arts class.
We were doing a project and we were aloud to walk around to room to get supplies. When i was walking back to my desk a kid pulls out a 3 inch pocket knife and deliberately holds it almost against my stomach. I started to back away and he just brought the knife closer to my stomach. When i was almost in the corner of the room he folded it up, started laughing and stuck it in his pocket and ran off to his seat. I was completely scared out of my mind! I asked him why he had the knife and he wanted to "protect" himself because he had to walk to school today. Even if he had a reason for the knife we are not supposed to have them in school. Plus he had NO reason to threaten me with it as a joke. My stomach churned thinking what was the right thing to do was. Luckily three of my friends saw the whole thing. But one thing i worried about was that if i told he would know who told, and he would come after me. But in lunch my friends said they were gonna tell if i was there or not.

I made up my mind and said i would do it. Because this was a serious thing, the fact that he held a knife against me just made me feel so weird. And scared. So me and my friends told, and the kid got expelled from our school. Though he apparently told one of his friends that we ratted him out (he found out all four of us even though the teacher did not tell him he just knew, mainly because he saw use walking away separately with the teacher to go to the vice principles office to tell the story.

Now i am scared about what he said that he was gonna get us.
My friends and I had a reason for telling right?
The freaking kid threatened me with a knife.
I never knew people would do such things...
Even though i have heard of all the murders and wars and killings i have never been threatened with a knife before, and at school of all places.


What should i feel?
I know i did the right thing...right?

Im just happy that kid is away...

-Navy-

EDIT: This was in a middle school.

[balamw]

Today my point of view of people changed entirely.
And this is why many middle schools have metal detectors. :( I hope this was high school...

Scary. IMHO you and your friends did the right thing.

B

[beatsme]

I know i did the right thing...right?


you absolutely did the right thing. And if he ever bothers you again, go right to the police. I'm serious.

[twistedlegato]

And this is why many middle schools have metal detectors. :( I hope this was high school...

Scary. IMHO you and your friends did the right thing.

B


Im sorry to say that this was Middle school and not High school.

[balamw]

Im sorry to say that this was Middle school and not High school.
You don't know how sorry I am to hear that.

Do involve the police at the first sign of any similar activity directed your way.

B

[thedude110]

Yes, you did the right thing.

And, based on my experience, the threat he's made against you is an empty one. If he comes back to your school, try to understand that he was "playing" with you, not actually threatening you (I know it didn't and doesn't feel that way, but it may very well have felt that way to him) -- if anything he was probably using you (because you were convenient) to try to muster some sort of control over his own life.

Was this at a public school or a private school?

I'm glad you're ok (though understandably a little bit freaked out).

I hope the other kid gets the help he needs.

[twistedlegato]

:rolleyes: Yes, you did the right thing.

And, based on my experience, the threat he's made against you is an empty one. If he comes back to your school, try to understand that he was "playing" with you, not actually threatening you (I know it didn't and doesn't feel that way, but it may very well have felt that way to him) -- if anything he was probably using you (because you were convenient) to try to muster some sort of control over his own life.

Was this at a public school or a private school?

I'm glad you're ok (though understandably a little bit freaked out).

I hope the other kid gets the help he needs.



This was public:rolleyes: ..
But its a good school, but all places of the world have there bad people...
I know he was playing with me but he should not have done such a thing, its not a koking matter to put a knife against a kids stomach to scare him for the fun of it.
Good thing that knife was above to inches. Means he get an automatic 10 sespension then has to go to the School board of directers thing. I think if he just had a knife that was over 2 inches. But the fact that he put it againts my stomach will defenitly get this kid expelled for sure!:)

This kids dad is a mucic producer, (he looks like a gangter, i saw him, becuase his dad came to watch his uncle rap for us because his uncle is a rapper) and he used to brag about all the stuff his dad gave him to watch:rolleyes:

[mactastic]

You did the right thing. Knives at school are a no-no. Threatening someone with a knife is a criminal act. Threatening reprisals for telling is a criminal act.

Just keep your eyes out for trouble in the next few days and weeks. And remember, there is no shame in running from a fight you can't win. (My maritial arts instructor worked long and hard to beat that into my head -- and it really is true, even if it doesn't feel like it is.) Keep yourself safe and legal.

[twistedlegato]

You did the right thing. Knives at school are a no-no. Threatening someone with a knife is a criminal act. Threatening reprisals for telling is a criminal act.

Just keep your eyes out for trouble in the next few days and weeks. And remember, there is no shame in running from a fight you can't win. (My maritial arts instructor worked long and hard to beat that into my head -- and it really is true, even if it doesn't feel like it is.) Keep yourself safe and legal.


Yeah, its hard to walk away from thing, i have never been in a REAL fight, but when someone hits me and i dont hit back, i get made fun of for being a wimp. Mainly because i dont want to get in trouble, and also because i dont like fighting.

[StarbucksSam]

You absolutely did the right thing. I want you to do one more thing:

Pick up the phone and call the police. File a report, and get a restraining order.

It might sound excessive to you, but you'd be amazed at how psychotic some people are. You want to have legal recourse if he starts to harass you, and serving him with papers that say "Judge ___ says that you have to stay the **** away from me" is a lot more compelling than nothing at all.

[viccles]

You did the right thing and if he threatens again go straight to the police

[M. Malone]

You may have done the right thing, but it all depends on how your relationship with this guy is? are you close friends? if so, are you the kind of friends who joke a lot with each other? like pushing each other into bushes, or messing with each other in harmless ways, if that's the case, the best thing that should have been done was to talk to him alone and tell him he crossed a line and that he shouldn't ever do it.

now if this guy is someone you don't know, then you sure as hell did the right thing.

[ZoomZoomZoom]

You did the right thing, and should be pretty proud of that. Most people don't have the guts to tell. You will want to report it to the police though, because "next time" might not be so good.

[twistedlegato]

You may have done the right thing, but it all depends on how your relationship with this guy is? are you close friends? if so, are you the kind of friends who joke a lot with each other? like pushing each other into bushes, or messing with each other in harmless ways, if that's the case, the best thing that should have been done was to talk to him alone and tell him he crossed a line and that he shouldn't ever do it.

now if this guy is someone you don't know, then you sure as hell did the right thing.


no we are ot friends.. THIS KID MAKES FUN OF ME....and alot:(

[camomac]

never bring a knife to a gun fight.:D












yes, i'm just kidding.

[twistedlegato]

You did the right thing, and should be pretty proud of that. Most people don't have the guts to tell. You will want to report it to the police though, because "next time" might not be so good.


Our school is taking it drasticly so i feel quite safe:)

[M. Malone]

no we are ot friends.. THIS KID MAKES FUN OF ME....and alot:(

so he's an insecure kid, we had a lot of those back in middle school and high school, they enjoy manipulating others, scare them, upset them, as long as he makes your emotions make a 180 degree turn, "mission accomplished", almost everyone is recommending you call the police, but I think that just adds a whole new dimension to the problem, I think you should chill about it, if you start to feel threat, either by him or his boyfriend, then go ahead and call the police, but what this guy seems to do is bark louder than he bites

[ZoomZoomZoom]

so he's an insecure kid, we had a lot of those back in middle school and high school, they enjoy manipulating others, scare them, upset them, as long as he makes your emotions make a 180 degree turn, "mission accomplished", almost everyone is recommending you call the police, but I think that just adds a whole new dimension to the problem, I think you should chill about it, if you start to feel threat, either by him or his boyfriend, then go ahead and call the police, but what this guy seems to do is bark louder than he bites

Er... the bully kid pushed a knife against him. Maybe he does bark louder than he bites, but apparantly he had someone's head in his jaws for a moment.

[M. Malone]

Er... the bully kid pushed a knife against him. Maybe he does bark louder than he bites, but apparantly he had someone's head in his jaws for a moment.

but ask yourself why he put the knife to his stomach for no apparent reason? I think he did it to scare him, and as he said, he makes fun of him a lot. Unless of course this guy has had a past of violence, but if his past contains only making fun of people then really calling the cops would complicate the matter, for now

[ZoomZoomZoom]

but ask yourself why he put the knife to his stomach for no apparent reason? I think he did it to scare him, and as he said, he makes fun of him a lot. Unless of course this guy has had a past of violence, but if his past contains only making fun of people then really calling the cops would complicate the matter, for now

I agree that it would complicate the matter, but it's better to stay safe with the situation. As for a "past of violence" - the guy just built one. Holding a knife to someone's stomach is an act of violence, and can be lethal. People as young as 13 have beaten people to death (http://forums.gaminghorizon.com/showthread.php?t=160) for things as stupid as cutting in line.

[stonyc]

Uh... I don't care if that kid was insecure or just wanted to scare the OP. I'm not a lawyer, but isn't what that kid did to the OP assault? Touching him with the knife, even though he didn't cut the OP, I would think could even encroach on battery.

To the OP, you absolutely did the right thing... I'm glad you have a good group of friends who not only advised you to do the right thing, but went with you to lend their support.

[camomac]

People as young as 13 have beaten people to death (http://forums.gaminghorizon.com/showthread.php?t=160) for things as stupid as cutting in line.

that is seriously messed up... mang.

[twistedlegato]

but ask yourself why he put the knife to his stomach for no apparent reason? I think he did it to scare him, and as he said, he makes fun of him a lot. Unless of course this guy has had a past of violence, but if his past contains only making fun of people then really calling the cops would complicate the matter, for now


he tried to scare me, not cut me, BUT HE STILL HAD NO RESON FOR DOING IT:(

[M. Malone]

I agree that it would complicate the matter, but it's better to stay safe with the situation. As for a "past of violence" - the guy just built one. Holding a knife to someone's stomach is an act of violence, and can be lethal. People as young as 13 have beaten people to death for things as stupid as cutting in line.

I agree that kids can be violent for the dumbest things, but I'm still looking at it from another angle:


When i was almost in the corner of the room he folded it up, started laughing and stuck it in his pocket and ran off to his seat. I was completely scared out of my mind! I asked him why he had the knife and he wanted to "protect" himself because he had to walk to school today. Even if he had a reason for the knife we are not supposed to have them in school. Plus he had NO reason to threaten me with it as a joke.

he didn't go up to him and say "I'm gonna fu**ing kill you" he laughed, in a joking way, of course this is not a proper way to joke, and reporting him in order to get him expelled is the right way to do it, but I think the OP needs to stop and relax for a moment, and think, should I call the cops? is this the end of it? and if he feels harm is indeed coming his way, then yes it is better to be safe than sorry, I just think calling the cops is a last resort, but in the end, non of us have the definite answer but the OP because we weren't there.

[twistedlegato]

I agree that kids can be violent for the dumbest things, but I'm still looking at it from another angle:



he didn't go up to him and say "I'm gonna fu**ing kill you" he laughed, in a joking way, of course this is not a proper way to joke, and reporting him in order to get him expelled is the right way to do it, but I think the OP needs to stop and relax for a moment, and think, should I call the cops? is this the end of it? and if he feels harm is indeed coming his way, then yes it is better to be safe than sorry, I just think calling the cops is a last resort, but in the end, non of us have the definite answer but the OP because we weren't there.


I know this is stupid..but what is the OP?

[balamw]

I know this is stupid..but what is the OP?
You are. Original poster. :p

B

[twistedlegato]

You are. Original poster. :p

B


ahaha..thanks..

I just cant belive people in this world would do such a thing:o

[Dagless]

I agree that kids can be violent for the dumbest things, but I'm still looking at it from another angle:



he didn't go up to him and say "I'm gonna fu**ing kill you" he laughed, in a joking way, of course this is not a proper way to joke, and reporting him in order to get him expelled is the right way to do it, but I think the OP needs to stop and relax for a moment, and think, should I call the cops? is this the end of it? and if he feels harm is indeed coming his way, then yes it is better to be safe than sorry, I just think calling the cops is a last resort, but in the end, non of us have the definite answer but the OP because we weren't there.

Thats easy - go to the cops. It takes someone with a sick mind to put a knife to someones stomach.

Something happened the headmaster of my old school. His brother was killed when his mate was joking around holding a knife to his body at school one day. Some other kids knocked into him and the knife ended up in his neck. He died. Which is why you don't piss around with knives.

Report him to the police. Simple as that. You got him expelled and has already shown he's not afraid to use knives.

[Doctor Q]

Even the best schools have occasional incidents like what you encountered, oldnavy1918.

You and your friends did the only thing you could sensibly do. If somebody threatened you and you did nothing, they'd know they could do it again and again, and probably would.

I doubt you are the only person this guy threatened or purposely scared with a knife, so you not only did what you needed to do for yourself, you did everyone else a favor too.

If he returns to school after a suspension, you might reasonably be worried that the kid would be targeting you and your friends again, but I think it's more likely that the kid would stay completely away from you, because he now knows 100% that you'll turn him in if he makes further trouble.

[generik]

Get your own knife as well!

[ZoomZoomZoom]

Get your own knife as well!

Or just bring a MBP to school. Burn that kid good if he gets close to you. ;)

[KingYaba]

If some dumbass kid pulled a knife on me, I'd pop him in the head. Self defence, bitch.

My justification: Stranger pulls a knife, I don't know what his intent is. As far as I can tell he means me harm. I have to do something to deter, or illiminate that threat.

File a police report right now. Get this idiot out of your school and into juvy.

[Xander562]

Because it hasnt been said enough already, I must say you handled the situation perfectly, and i admire you for that.
It also helps to have some really good friends around you. Keep the friends that stood by you and helped you tell an adult.

Just hope you dont end up going to the same High School.

Also if someone ever comes at you with the intent to hurt you, if you are a REALLY fast runner and he's some fat slob, run and find the highest fight of stairs, and run up those, that's what i'd do, otherwise, STICK UP FOR YOURSELF, punch him back! it's self defense.

[Kingsly]

Any police officer in the world can tell you an assailant with a knife is considered a deadly threat within 21 feet.
You did the right thing to report him.
If you feel he or someone he knows is going to attempt revenge on you, it may be a good idea to file some sort of formal complaint with the police (so its on paper that you are worried... incase, god forbid, anything bad happened to you they know who to investigate)

You may also want to practice some basic disarming techniques.
Go for the stomach first... nobody tries to defend that area because everybody automatically tries for the head or groin. Act completely normal right up until you attack to confuse them. Even if their choking you act completely bored... until you punch them in the throat. ;)

[zap2]

Forget him, he brought a knife and it was stupid, if he felt he need something to protect him, ask an adult or have something with him alot(if he plays and sport and Lax stick or Baseball bat is good for carry back and forth from school) or have things he can use to defend him self on the way to school. (Leave something you can hit people with like a big stick, near school to walk home with)

His mistake..not yours for turning him in..you felt theated and did the right thing(what if he used the knife on someone else? or was joking around with it again and cut someone by mistake? to risky IMO)

[Abstract]

You did the right thing. :)

[thedude110]

I suppose I should keep my mouth shut, but this thread is really irking me.

First. If the kid brought a knife to a public school (and worse used that knife in a threatening way) then the police have already been contacted. If the police haven't been contacted, that's nothing less than gross negligence on the part of the school's administration.

Second. The subtext (and oftentimes the text) of this thread -- that we should celebrate the expulsion of a child who clearly needs adults, structure and role models -- is beyond disheartening to me. I recognize that we want to sympathize with the OP, and the OP deserves that sympathy -- s/he's had an awful day. But why are we so willingly blind to the motivation of the child victimizer -- to their desparation, loss, lack, pain ... whatever caused him to act out as such?

Such that:

Why are we so ready to neglect and dismiss the face of genunie human need?

[balamw]

Second. The subtext (and oftentimes the text) of this thread -- that we should celebrate the expulsion of a child who clearly needs adults, structure and role models -- is beyond disheartening to me.
Expulsion always seems like a weird punishment to me, since many of the kids who get expelled, don't ant to be in school in the first place and "enjoy" their expulsion.

B

[Unorthodox]

I can't believe how much great stuff I missed by being home-schooled....:rolleyes:

If some dumbass kid pulled a knife on me, I'd pop him in the head. Self defence, bitch.
Thats a good way to get yourself stabbed in the gut....
If someone is threatening you with a knife it's best to do what they say.

[quagmire]

If some dumbass kid pulled a knife on me, I'd pop him in the head. Self defence, bitch.

My justification: Stranger pulls a knife, I don't know what his intent is. As far as I can tell he means me harm. I have to do something to deter, or illiminate that threat.

File a police report right now. Get this idiot out of your school and into juvy.

Thing with self defense especially in school, at least in my school. If a kid had a knife against my stomach, and I fought back and threw a punch I would also get suspended/expelled. So much for self defense.

You did the right thing OP. Don't worry about it. Stay with your friends for awhile as the kid or his friends probably won't make a move with a lot of witnesses around.

[twistedlegato]

Thing with self defense especially in school, at least in my school. If a kid had a knife against my stomach, and I fought back and threw a punch I would also get suspended/expelled. So much for self defense.

You did the right thing OP. Don't worry about it. Stay with your friends for awhile as the kid or his friends probably won't make a move with a lot of witnesses around.


Yeah thats the fact, if i hit him back i get in trouble:rolleyes:

Or just bring a MBP to school. Burn that kid good if he gets close to you. ;)


Ahhahahah, that made my day:)

If some dumbass kid pulled a knife on me, I'd pop him in the head. Self defence, bitch.

My justification: Stranger pulls a knife, I don't know what his intent is. As far as I can tell he means me harm. I have to do something to deter, or illiminate that threat.

File a police report right now. Get this idiot out of your school and into juvy.


all i know is that he is gone, he has to go against the board of Directors or something, they might let him go if he had just HAD the knife, but the fact that he was pointing it at me changes everything....I hope that kid gets in Juvy for his life..

Get your own knife as well!



.....uhhhh.....no..

[StealthRider]

Have your parents ask if the school notified the police. If not, have them do that, and I would agree with getting a restraining order. You don't need to be worrying about this stuff in middle school, for God's sake.

And you might want to look into Taekwondo or something...

[realityisterror]

While I can definitely sympathize, some of these replies do seem a little extreme...

This is only middle school, and although threatening is by no means justified, I don't think the kid had any intent to harm anyone. Granted an accident could have happened, but I'm sure you could die at the hands of a pencil sharpener as well.

The kid will learn his lesson; there's no point in him turning into a criminal and ruining his life because he brought a knife to school. He got away with toeing the line before, but after being suspended and risking expulsion, I'm sure neither he nor his parents are going to let him get into a similar situation again.

The only thing I'd be worried about is his behavior towards you if and when he returns to school.
Worse comes to worse, spike his milk with laxatives. :cool:

reality

[iSaint]

You say the school is taking drastic measures, which is great. Where was the teacher during this? I can't imagine missing something like this in a class, I guess it's possible though.

Did the administration at your school ask if you wanted to press charges? I know the principal where I teach does in such a case.

[twistedlegato]

You say the school is taking drastic measures, which is great. Where was the teacher during this? I can't imagine missing something like this in a class, I guess it's possible though.

Did the administration at your school ask if you wanted to press charges? I know the principal where I teach does in such a case.


No we are not pressing charges.
We were aloud to walk around the room to get supplies. And he just kept the knife low and put on my stomach.

[Kingsly]

And you might want to look into Taekwondo or something...
Russian Systema. Totally great™ against opponents with superior weapons and/or numbers.


And I agree that the poor kid is probably pulling knives on people because he had a screwed up life.
Therapy would be more useful than juvy.

[twistedlegato]

Russian Systema. Totally great™ against opponents with superior weapons and/or numbers.


And I agree that the poor kid is probably pulling knives on people because he had a screwed up life.
Therapy would be more useful than juvy.


I dont think his parents recognize him much..he says his mom goes to partys, or is never home.....he is very wealthy
Still no reson to harm me though:rolleyes:

[Kingsly]

I dont think his parents recognize him much..he says his mom goes to partys, or is never home.....he is very wealthy
Still no reson to harm me though:rolleyes:
You have a point. The currant state of the 'American nuclear family unit' is really sad. Its a good time to be a therapist! Business must be good.

The only way to really cure someone like that is with love... but theres always the chance of getting stabbed as one moves in for a hug. :eek:

[monke]

Or just bring a MBP to school. Burn that kid good if he gets close to you. ;)


Whoops, sorry about spilled lighter fluid all over you, here let me burn it off for you. Oh, it burns. Wow. Sorry man. :D

[Miguey]

you have very good friends,imo, most "friends" would just be scared themselves and wont tell, you are in good hands...like what other people said, just stick with them,

You did the right thing talking to the school, that way if anything does happen, they already know your side of the story and you will have an exceptional edge.

[Warbrain]

so he's an insecure kid, we had a lot of those back in middle school and high school, they enjoy manipulating others, scare them, upset them, as long as he makes your emotions make a 180 degree turn, "mission accomplished", almost everyone is recommending you call the police, but I think that just adds a whole new dimension to the problem, I think you should chill about it, if you start to feel threat, either by him or his boyfriend, then go ahead and call the police, but what this guy seems to do is bark louder than he bites

Exactly. Let it slide off for now. Don't call the police. But you did do the right thing.

I never had a knife put against my stomach - although I now remember being stabbed in the arm with a pen - but I was one of those kids in middle school that people would bully and push around. I don't know why, as even if I was beaten up by them, I just got up and walked away and didn't let it phase me. I never once cried, never once told them out, nothing. I knew that I would get away from them at some point in my life, and that I would do much better things than them in my lifetime than them.

So don't sit there now completely worried about what happened. You did good. Go on with life...without the police.

[twistedlegato]

so he's an insecure kid, we had a lot of those back in middle school and high school, they enjoy manipulating others, scare them, upset them, as long as he makes your emotions make a 180 degree turn, "mission accomplished", almost everyone is recommending you call the police, but I think that just adds a whole new dimension to the problem, I think you should chill about it, if you start to feel threat, either by him or his boyfriend, then go ahead and call the police, but what this guy seems to do is bark louder than he bites


Of course....HIS boyfriend:p :p :p

[Josias]

Once I had a pretty big knife held against my crotch.:eek: It was this guy I had "bullied", if that's the right word. I know I'm bad, but he was an asshole, and he smells.:p

Anyways, the blade was around 5.5" inches long, and he didn't say anything, just held it there. Here comes the funny part: My freind who walked with me grabs a stick and sticks it up his butt!:D He screams like a fat pig (I should inform that this dude is 15 years old, a common loser, and weighs 170 pounds). He runs around, and I take the knife from him. I completely ruin the knife, smash it into the asphalt, and throw it over a fence, which this fat boy never will be able to climb across.:)

Next day, to pay him back, when changing after P.E. or whatever it's called, I start a towelfight with him. His 50 punds of fat are jiggling with every smack, and he surrenders, lying nearly wheeping in a corner. I don't believe losers like that who rag down on the lives of the people who have a future even deserve to live. He's a minus for society. Of course, if he squeals, I have the kinfe crap on him. I have more witnesses that my friend who walked with me.

To conclude this, I don't believe in squealing, take care of things yourself. In real life, you can't rely on anyone wanting to listen to your squeling, not even the cops. Fight for yourself!:cool: (Or make your friends do it, life is all about creating contacts)!

[twistedlegato]

Once I had a pretty big knife held against my crotch.:eek: It was this guy I had "bullied", if that's the right word. I know I'm bad, but he was an asshole, and he smells.:p

Anyways, the blade was around 5.5" inches long, and he didn't say anything, just held it there. Here comes the funny part: My freind who walked with me grabs a stick and sticks it up his butt!:D He screams like a fat pig (I should inform that this dude is 15 years old, a common loser, and weighs 170 pounds). He runs around, and I take the knife from him. I completely ruin the knife, smash it into the asphalt, and throw it over a fence, which this fat boy never will be able to climb across.:)

Next day, to pay him back, when changing after P.E. or whatever it's called, I start a towelfight with him. His 50 punds of fat are jiggling with every smack, and he surrenders, lying nearly wheeping in a corner. I don't believe losers like that who rag down on the lives of the people who have a future even deserve to live. He's a minus for society. Of course, if he squeals, I have the kinfe crap on him. I have more witnesses that my friend who walked with me.

To conclude this, I don't believe in squealing, take care of things yourself. In real life, you can't rely on anyone wanting to listen to your squeling, not even the cops. Fight for yourself!:cool: (Or make your friends do it, life is all about creating contacts)!


A little mean would you not say:p ???

[Josias]

A little mean would you not say:p ???

No, he got what he deserved. I would've gone even further if I wasn't such a soft person. He held a knife against my balls FFS!:eek:

[ZoomZoomZoom]

No, he got what he deserved. I would've gone even further if I wasn't such a soft person. He held a knife against my balls FFS!:eek:

Yeah, if someone held a knife to my balls, the kid gloves are off.

[Josias]

Yeah, if someone held a knife to my balls, the kid gloves are off.

Instaed of squealing, and making them kick him from the school, which he would be happy for, I keep him in his "prison" :p and keeps making his life miserable. I do not demand authority, only respect.

[SpaceMagic]

Instaed of squealing, and making them kick him from the school, which he would be happy for, I keep him in his "prison" :p and keeps making his life miserable. I do not demand authority, only respect.

You sound like a bully... he just sounds like a victim of bullying driven to getting his own back (albeit excessively)

[CorvusCamenarum]

Instaed of squealing, and making them kick him from the school, which he would be happy for, I keep him in his "prison" :p and keeps making his life miserable. I do not demand authority, only respect.

Sounds like what you want isn't respect, but fear. Definitely the mark of an insecure bully.

Respect is earned, not given away on demand.

[Josias]

Didn't you read my first post? The dude held a knife at my nuts!

I earn the respect, respect cannot be demanded or ordered. I know that much.

I'm no general bully. Try and read my first post. You'll undertsand.

I'm just saying, you should be able to take care of stuff yourself.

I know I sound extremely evil, yet you would agree with me if you would have to spend 1 day with him. He is an anaoyance for everybody I know. Guess why his parents sent him to boarding shcool? ;)

[Abstract]

I'm not going to judge you. He held a knife to you, and believe me, I know how that feels.


If you decide to call the police, I can understand why you did it.
If you decide not to call the police, I can understand why you did it.


Both responses could be justified, IMO.

[xsedrinam]

To conclude this, I don't believe in squealing, take care of things yourself. In real life, you can't rely on anyone wanting to listen to your squeling, not even the cops. Fight for yourself!:cool: (Or make your friends do it, life is all about creating contacts)!
Vigilantes are so 19th century. If there's a felonious threat made against your person, it's not "squealing" to turn them in to the authorities in a NY minute. I had a rifle shot at me in a parking lot some years back. The cops were there in less than 10 minutes. I walked over with them to the upstairs apartment where 'Rambo' had disappeared, ID'd his ass, (still dressed out in camouflage gear and face paint) and watched the arrest as I walked calmly away.

[carbonmotion]

Even though i have heard of all the murders and wars and killings i have never been threatened with a knife before, and at school of all places.


Well if you live in a tough 'hood, you have to earn street respect.... hence if a kid threatens you with a swiss army switchblade, you threaten him with a Glock 9 semi auto... if he cuts you and you have to go to the hospital, you and your boys load up on the ammo ride your bikes to his house and shoot it up! See these things, they're all about intimidation, you should never show that you are weak by depicting fear. Instead you should show that you are the biggest and baddest bad boy on the streets! ***** de escalation, escalate until the kid is scared ******** of you!

ps...... so kidding

[Beligerent]

keep this in mind... society has a way of chewing these guys up and spitting them out. I still live in the same city I went to middle and high school in and once in awhile I'll bump into the "coolest guy at school" working in a Taco Bell trying to support his 5 kids.

No lie... a jock who used to pick on me in 8th grade came to my house 6 months ago to install my Comcast Cable. he was 320lbs and looked like he couldnt get laid by a carpet installer. I loved it how he couldnt take his eyes off my hot wife.

[fistful]

Sounds like a case of causality there Josias, frankly I think you deserved it even though I disagree with his means. It's not alright for him to take matters into his own hands yet when you do it's justified? What a load of BS. The way you talk about him, the things you say you've done to him is just plain nastiness. Maybe he is annoying, maybe he is a loser but why can't you let him alone? You don't have to like him but that doesn't mean you should provoke him.

Grow up.

[carbonmotion]

i stick to my glock theory.... what 8th grader won't piss his pants when he's staring down the barrel of a 9mm automatic pistol?

[latergator116]

I don't trust anyone at my school when it comes to weapons. I try to stay low key and not get on anyone's bad side!

[carbonmotion]

I don't trust anyone at my school when it comes to weapons. I try to stay low key and not get on anyone's bad side!
i'd say you need to toughen up and intimidate more. imagine who would mess with you if you walked around with a 9 strapped to your waist?

[M. Malone]

Didn't you read my first post? The dude held a knife at my nuts!

ask yourself why he did that? and your answer was also in your first post, you bullied him cause he smelled, and in return that's what happened, kids getting bullied will do the craziest things, you best make peace with this guy, for his own good as well as yours, and knowing that you unfairly hurt someone else's feelings in your life is a terrible feeling later on when you get older, make your peace if you can track him, him "smelling" doesn't justify hurting him.

[latergator116]

i'd say you need to toughen up and intimidate more. imagine who would mess with you if you walked around with a 9 strapped to your waist?
True. But I'm sure there are some who would get hold of some bigger firepower after school. :D

[Josias]

I don' think I made it clear why he did so.

I think you got this impression that I'm this very evil person. I'm very nice to most people, which is why most people like me. This one guy, apparently doesn't understand kindness. He is the most annoying individual I ever met. I never did any serious physical/mental harm to him. He deserves what he got. He held a knife against my nuts, I bust his knife and spank him a few times ith a towel, whereafter I leave him alone. That's it.

The smeeling thing was just a little remark. I am not bad to people just because they smell. I'm bad to them, if they're bad to me, and he was annoying. I will leave him alone, yet he clearly assaulted the wrong guy. I'm not the one making his life miserable. I may just be the one who did one little thing who triggered him?

[Miguey]

Ok I know I shouldn't be getting in this but oh well...

What you did to him was fine up until the towel whipping imo. That was a little too far, so what if he's annoying, you made him go into a corner wheeping, and made fun of him for being overweight....That is just going to far...

[®îçhå®?]

That is a rally bad thing to happen. The closest thing that happened at my school was that a nicked a craft knife from a tech lesson and stabbed his friend with it accidentally.

[Josias]

Ok I know I shouldn't be getting in this but oh well...

What you did to him was fine up until the towel whipping imo. That was a little too far, so what if he's annoying, you made him go into a corner wheeping, and made fun of him for being overweight....That is just going to far...

What do you think I should do? I never want another knife held against my crotch. I've never annoyed teased him with his overweight, since obesedy is inheritable, yet the fact that you hold a knife against someone's crotch isn't. Should I've just ruined his knife and then walk on. I wanted him to understand not to do stuff like that. I hit him three times with a wet towel. It's no my fault he's such a wuss crying for three spanks. I'm not very strong physically. I mostly have to work poeple with my brain, but this time, a little physichal neede to be taken.

Conclusion:
I had three possibilities:
1. Teach him a lesson (which I did).
2. Do nothing (why would anyone even consider just letting him go?)
3. Busting his ass in jail (He's above 15. I think he'd prefer #1 rather than this).:)

[carbonmotion]

i dont understand why the rest of america is so weak... probably because you guys grew up in the burbs... pussies.... if you ever want respect, you gotta take this guy's attitude on life.

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[Miguey]

What do you think I should do? I never want another knife held against my crotch. I've never annoyed teased him with his overweight, since obesedy is inheritable, yet the fact that you hold a knife against someone's crotch isn't. Should I've just ruined his knife and then walk on. I wanted him to understand not to do stuff like that. I hit him three times with a wet towel. It's no my fault he's such a wuss crying for three spanks. I'm not very strong physically. I mostly have to work poeple with my brain, but this time, a little physichal neede to be taken.

Conclusion:
I had three possibilities:
1. Teach him a lesson (which I did).
2. Do nothing (why would anyone even consider just letting him go?)
3. Busting his ass in jail (He's above 15. I think he'd prefer #1 rather than this).:)

By the way you told/wrote the story it seems as if you towel whipped him more then 3 times...

I start a towelfight with him. His 50 punds of fat are jiggling with every smack, and he surrenders, lying nearly wheeping in a corner

You and your friend seemed to scare him off then if he didnt do anything the next day, so why whip him? You broke his knife, your friend stuck a stick up his butt, and you laughed at him. Why test his patience even more? Yeah your teaching him a lesson, but why take it further then it needs to go? If you waited to see if anything happened, and nothing did then he probably already got the lesson taught. I'm sorry but I just think that it was a little too far.

[Roger1]

Once I had a pretty big knife held against my crotch.:eek: It was this guy I had "bullied", if that's the right word. I know I'm bad, but he was an asshole, and he smells.:p

Josias, you have spent much of this thread telling us how much of bully you're not. However, the SECOND sentence in your original post, you say you bullied this person. That makes you a bully. Him putting a knife to your balls was wrong, but it soundsl like he was trying to defend himself, or intimidate you into leaving him alone. Glad your proud of the way you treated him. Now grow up.

Oldnavy1918, you did the right thing, by telling on this kid. It may save you or him some harm later in the year. Just make sure your parents are in the loop on this. You DEFINATELY want them to find out right away from you or the school. They would probably be pretty upset if they found out from one of your friends parents.

[SBik2]

something similar happened... And it has happened to a few of the other kids whose parents own farming buisnesses(these other kids happen to be my very good friends) and when it happened to me(we both play football) that day it happened, i was off by a few inches for breaking his leg(i spraned it though) nothing has happened to me since
*yes you did the right thing)