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Mr_Brightside_@
Sep 29, 2006, 08:15 PM
hi um my ibook won't boot up; if i press the power button the fans blow for awhile, then nothing happens. ideas? thankx
EDIT it boots to a blue screen, but won't go from there. any help would be much appreciated. cheers



mad jew
Sep 29, 2006, 08:43 PM
Firstly, unplug all your peripherals. Can you boot it from the OSX discs (hold C)? If you can do this, then try using the bundles Disk Utility to repair your hard drive. :)

Mr_Brightside_@
Sep 29, 2006, 08:49 PM
Firstly, unplug all your peripherals. Can you boot it from the OSX discs (hold C)? If you can do this, then try using the bundles Disk Utility to repair your hard drive. :)
they are at home :o anything else? what does open firmware do?

mad jew
Sep 29, 2006, 08:56 PM
I'd leave Open Firmware for now. It lets you mess with some of the firmware settings and we might need it later but try running fsck (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214) instead. :)

Mr_Brightside_@
Sep 29, 2006, 09:16 PM
I'd leave Open Firmware for now. It lets you mess with some of the firmware settings and we might need it later but try running fsck (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214) instead. :)
fsck isn't working; it says my hard drive is OK, but still gets to the blue screen, then i get the gear over and over.
btw, volume is muted: i want to hear the start up chime, for safe mode; how do i do this?
cheers

2nyRiggz
Sep 29, 2006, 09:36 PM
Lets start real simple first, is your battery charged? fsck sounds like a great idea.



Bless

mad jew
Sep 30, 2006, 02:39 AM
Using the volume keys to increase the volume at any stage in the boot process should ensure the POST (bong sound) is heard next time you reboot. Safe Mode (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107393) sounds like a very good step. :)

Mr_Brightside_@
Sep 30, 2006, 04:18 PM
Using the volume keys to increase the volume at any stage in the boot process should ensure the POST (bong sound) is heard next time you reboot. Safe Mode (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107393) sounds like a very good step. :)
Sorry; was fencing all day- I won though :)
anyway the volume keys don't seem to be working, but it should just be, hit them and the voluem goes up as usual right?
if that works, i will def. try safe boot. oh yeah, is there a way to delete files w/ sinlge user mode, because that should solve this problem. also yes the battery is chagred (the book's plugged in). thanks!

mad jew
Sep 30, 2006, 11:02 PM
Sorry; was fencing all day- I won though :)


Congratulations. :)


anyway the volume keys don't seem to be working, but it should just be, hit them and the voluem goes up as usual right?


Yeah, that's how it should work, but that doesn't mean it necessarily will work. Your machine's showing some pretty bizarre symptoms so certainly try adjusting the volume, but I don't know if it'll be recognised. Alternatively, reset the PRAM (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238) and see if that gets your volume unmuted. Having said that, I thin we might have bigger things to worry about than the startup chime. :o


is there a way to delete files w/ sinlge user mode, because that should solve this problem.


Technically yes, but I wouldn't know where to start. Do you have any idea what changes you've made to the system that might have brought this about? To be honest, I think your best bet right now is to do an Archive & Install (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120), so how hard would it be to get your discs back from home?

In the meantime, is there another Mac (Target Disk Mode (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583)) or an external drive with OSX on it that you could boot from to back your data up?

Mr_Brightside_@
Oct 1, 2006, 06:23 PM
Yeah, that's how it should work, but that doesn't mean it necessarily will work. Your machine's showing some pretty bizarre symptoms so certainly try adjusting the volume, but I don't know if it'll be recognised. Alternatively, reset the PRAM (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238) and see if that gets your volume unmuted. Having said that, I thin we might have bigger things to worry about than the startup chime. :o
Technically yes, but I wouldn't know where to start. Do you have any idea what changes you've made to the system that might have brought this about? To be honest, I think your best bet right now is to do an Archive & Install (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120), so how hard would it be to get your discs back from home?

In the meantime, is there another Mac (Target Disk Mode (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583)) or an external drive with OSX on it that you could boot from to back your data up?
Yes, there is another Mac available (tomorrow), until then, I'm at home w/ the boot disks, Repairing Disk solved the startup chime (I THEN reset PRAM & NVRAM), so perhaps now Safe Boot will work; now, I get to the Mac OSX window, the blue bar loads a little, then the window disappears to a blue screen, and the gear symbol every once in a while. So I'll try Safe boot for now, and we'll see- if not, to work for an Archive & Install...
(I NEED my 'book back up for Tuesday, that's Sam's Town!)
Cheers
EDIT: yes, I did something bad, and tried to install Front Row w/ the Enabler program... and yes, I have learned my lesson (maybe it won't work, since I have iPhoto 5.x and Front Row 1.3 req's iPhoto 6).

mad jew
Oct 1, 2006, 10:04 PM
Awesome! So how did Safe Boot go? :)

Mr_Brightside_@
Oct 2, 2006, 10:49 AM
Awesome! So how did Safe Boot go? :)
It hasn't worked... yet... but I sent it to the "shop" and they should be able to Save all my Data via Target Disk Mode or whatever, then Erase and Install my own iBook (which is too small to fit all my data, plus a fresh OSX) and hopefully then copy all my stuff back, without OSX itself. Or something like that. They know what they're doing.
Will report back later, cheers

Mr_Brightside_@
Oct 2, 2006, 08:35 PM
Well I don't know what he did, but he fixed it, without Archive and Install, Erase and Install, or even using my boot disks, apparently... I'll ask him how he did it, and, if anyone else has this problem, I will be happy to help if I can... jeez it's good to be back (I forgot to mention, on the weekend I was posting from some Dell Media PC w/ a fracking 24+ inch monitor... anyway, then and iBook G3 lol)
Thanks for everyone's help!
Cheers