RED iPod Nano Tomorrow?

[MacRumors]

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An anonymous source claims that U2's Bono will announce a RED (http://www.joinred.com/) version of Apple's 4 GB iPod tomorrow during his appearance on Oprah. The show was apparently taped today in Chicago, and Oprah.com (http://www.oprah.com/) has the following to say about tomorrow's show:

Get "red"-y! It's something so huge, it took Opray, Bono and a convertible to make it happen! Plus, Penelope Cruz and Kanye West are in on it! An extraordinary launch! [...] Chicago goes "red" today and this is just the beginning!

The show was apparently taped today, and will be aired tomorrow, October 13th. Rumors of a RED iPod (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060131123048.shtml) have been circulating since January. According to our source, the RED iPod would be priced similarly to current 4 GB models at $199, with $10 (5%) of each sale going to The Global Fund to help women and children affected by HIV/AIDS in Africa, where some countries have over 30% of the population affected by the disease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_pandemic#Sub-Saharan_Africa).

Digg This (http://www.digg.com/apple/RED_iPod_Nano_Tomorrow)

[spicyapple]

So it's a red nano!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2006-10/25865863.jpg


http://www.exit42design.com/stuffDirectory/redNano.jpg
edit: BJNY brought this mockup to our attention later in the thread, so I'll just repost it here too. Looks nice! :)

[liketom]

if true thats good , but should be more like 10%

[Chimera]

Red in the aluminum would be nice I guess, although 5% isn't much to give away.

[kainjow]

Oh Bono...

http://www.u2station.com/images/images/oprah_06.jpg

[KingYaba]

That aint Bono!

5% 10% is something if this red iPod sells.

[longofest]

I hope people like Red, because this is definitely the iPod to buy... goes to a great cause, and doesn't cost you anything more.

[Prom1]

Regardless if its 5% or should be 10%. This is an initiative that Bono has been after for over a decade.

For most ppl that dont like U2's music, they sure know who they are and respect Bono for his philantropic efforts.

Motorola is doing the same with the RAZR v3i model.

Kinda said how a passionate music artist must make this initiative when countries with HUGE sums of cash prefer military spending in their budgets (Canada included) yet not for world equality for medicine.

This would be a HUGE BONUS for Apple. I'll be buying one for my wife it its true and available in Canada.:D

[Chris Bangle]

If it was recorded today, then the audience must know... Im nowhere near America so I cant ask them... Surely someone else apart from this source will confirm it for us... There has to be a few apple fans in the audience....

[Chundles]

Bono, whilst playing a gig in Glasgow, got the whole crowd to be silent and then began slowly clapping his hands. He got the crowd to clap along for a while, the stadium quiet except for the rhythmic clapping...

After a short period Bono spoke, saying that everytime he clapped his hands a child in Africa died...

Suddenly, from the front row of the venue a voice broke out in thick Scottish brogue, ending the silence as it echoed across the crowd, the voice cried out to Bono "Well stop ****ing doing it then!!"

True story.

Red glossy 1G nano - blergh, red anodised 2G nano - could be cool.

[whooleytoo]

Why would a charity help women and children victims, but not men? Why not just offer help to "AIDS sufferers"?

[bdj21ya]

Kinda said how a passionate music artist must make this initiative when countries with HUGE sums of cash prefer military spending in their budgets (Canada included) yet not for world equality for medicine.

Kinda said? Actually, it's equality that they're trying to fight AGAINST here. The problem is that there's too much equality, which means they can't afford the medicine.

I'm all for philanthropy, but I don't think that red is the way to go for selling more iPods.

[BornAgainMac]

Why is U2 so big with iPods anyways? The only group to have their own iPod. :confused:

(I don't mean to be disrespectful to the U2 fanboys out there)

[BRLawyer]

It's a nice cause, but red iPods are really ugly, I must say...

[vi2867]

http://static.flickr.com/121/267917812_57f5b710af.jpg?v=0If it is a 4 GB iPod, it has to be a Nano, right???

What else, could it be??

[BoyBach]

Bono, whilst playing a gig in Glasgow, got the whole crowd to be silent and then began slowly clapping his hands. He got the crowd to clap along for a while, the stadium quiet except for the rhythmic clapping...

After a short period Bono spoke, saying that everytime he clapped his hands a child in Africa died...

Suddenly, from the front row of the venue a voice broke out in thick Scottish brogue, ending the silence as it echoed across the crowd, the voice cried out to Bono "Well stop f***king doing it then!!"

True story.


Priceless :D

A nice red aluminium iPod would make a great Christmas present for my brother. Practical and 'do-gooding' all rolled into one small package.

[technicolor]

And all my classes are cancelled tomorrow, so I can stay home and watch Oprah. :D

[Chundles]

http://flickr.com/photos/vi2867/267917812/

If it is a 4 GB iPod, it has to be a Nano, right???

What else, could it be??

http://flickr.com/photos/vi2867/267917812/


You have to link to the images, not the flickr page.

And that's just the U2 special edition iPod.

[mcarnes]

Why is U2 so big with iPods anyways? The only group to have their own iPod. :confused:

(I don't mean to be disrespectful to the U2 fanboys out there)

Remember the keynote where Jobs introduced the iTMS (and the whole idea of legal downloads)?

SJ and Bono became bed buddies.

[jellomizer]

They might as well add a Core 2 Duo Mac Book Pro too.

[technicolor]

They might as well add a Core 2 Duo Mac Book Pro too.
Please CAN IT!

CAN IT!

My god we cant talk about anything on this board without the core 2 duo macbook/pro crew coming to mess up a thread THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH LAPTOP UPDATES

CAN IT!
:mad:

[mashinhead]

goes to a great cause, and doesn't cost you anything more.


there is no such thing as charity in america, it always comes through commerce. why not just donate the $200 bux? does a lot more than the 10 bux you are donating now, so you can justify getting a new ipod. hell i would buy a red ipod just cos of the color i don't see why the cos has to be associated with it, if they're gonna do this they might as well just donate 10% of all ipod sales. at least it does something more than haveing a "show off" recipet for your so called act of charity.

"Hi i'm bono, there's a huge aids problem in africa and people don't pay attention, heres a new ipod"

wtf.

[sartinsauce]

They might as well add a Core 2 Duo Mac Book Pro too.


I like your style. Nice and subtle. I almost overlooked your post.

[eenu]

there is no way apple would make a product release on a pre recorded program with an audiance. Thanks to the internet the release would no longer be a surprise!

[Chris Bangle]

[QUOTE=Chundles]Bono, whilst playing a gig in Glasgow, got the whole crowd to be silent and then began slowly clapping his hands. He got the crowd to clap along for a while, the stadium quiet except for the rhythmic clapping...

After a short period Bono spoke, saying that everytime he clapped his hands a child in Africa died...

Suddenly, from the front row of the venue a voice broke out in thick Scottish brogue, ending the silence as it echoed across the crowd, the voice cried out to Bono "Well stop f***king doing it then!!"

True story.



Are we allowed to find that funny because that is quite hilarious. If im not allowed to laugh at it then its not funny... But that is quite funny....

[sartinsauce]

there is no such thing as charity in america, it always comes through commerce. why not just donate the $200 bux? does a lot more than the 10 bux you are donating now, so you can justify getting a new ipod. hell i would buy a red ipod just cos of the color, if they're gonna do this they might as well just donate 10% of all ipod sales. at least it does something.

"Hi i'm bono, there's a huge aids problem in africa and people don't pay attention, heres a new ipod"

wtf.

Wow, that's a big statement. You're right, of course.

It's kinda like if there was a healthier Big Mac. Healthier because it comes with a whole grain bun.

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

And all my classes are cancelled tomorrow, so I can stay home and watch Oprah. :D

Aw come on, you do that every day! :p

[technicolor]

Aw come on, you do that every day! :p
Hee hee! :D

I am really not a huge Oprah fan, maybe when I am 40. ;)

[Furze]

Unless it's a RED macbook pro, then it should be at least 20% to good causes. With 120GB hard drive, just imagine how much awful U2 music you could have.

Please CAN IT!

CAN IT!

My god we cant talk about anything on this board without the core 2 duo macbook/pro crew coming to mess up a thread THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH LAPTOP UPDATES

CAN IT!

[clintob]

Why would a charity help women and children victims, but not men? Why not just offer help to "AIDS sufferers"?

I'll probably come of sounding like a jerk and opening a HUGE can of worms with this, BUT...

I'm glad somebody else was thinking what I was thinking! Why do we constantly have to place a line between men and women, black and white, American and everyone else. If we actually want equality and unity and all those wonderful things, I think it's about time we stop dilineating between groups of people.

It can't be both ways... if women/minorities want equality in the work place, or government, or in society as a whole, there can't also be inequality in the world when it comes to things like this... men and women, black and white, straight and gay - they have to be equal across the board, or not at all. We can't have it both ways.

That said, bravo to Apple, U2, and anyone else involved here. Anytime you can use your power and influence to raise funds and awareness - no matter the alterior motives - it's a good thing.

[Chundles]

Bono, whilst playing a gig in Glasgow, got the whole crowd to be silent and then began slowly clapping his hands. He got the crowd to clap along for a while, the stadium quiet except for the rhythmic clapping...

After a short period Bono spoke, saying that everytime he clapped his hands a child in Africa died...

Suddenly, from the front row of the venue a voice broke out in thick Scottish brogue, ending the silence as it echoed across the crowd, the voice cried out to Bono "Well stop f***king doing it then!!"

True story.



Are we allowed to find that funny because that is quite hilarious. If im not allowed to laugh at it then its not funny... But that is quite funny....

Of course you're meant to find it funny - it's a dead-set pi*ser of a story. I laughed for ages when I heard it.

[manosaurus]

They might as well add a Core 2 Duo Mac Book Pro too.

Nah... Core 2 Duo eMac tomorrow... not the MBP...

[Shayne R]

Apple is also opening there new store in Boulder Colorado tomorrow. It would be a good time.

[ct-scan]

They might as well add a Core 2 Duo Mac Book Pro too.

Hehe...this topic goes everywhere! ;)

[kurtsayin]

I would love to have a red iPod, but I don't know why we would ever give money to help fight AIDS on a continent where the people take NO precautions to prevent themselves from getting AIDS... I mean, sure many children are born with it in Africa, but for soooo many adults, they could prevent the spread if they would just be monogamous.

So there, I solved AIDS for free, no Oprah, no Bono, no Ipods. Just have sex only within a lifetime committed relationship and AIDS is all but gone in one generation!

I'll stick to my black aluminum iPod nano, anyhow. I just hope 10% of the proceeds didn't go to research finding cures for the black plague... or frostbite...

[Frisco]

So it's a red nano?

n/m had to fish the links. :)

http://www.t3.co.uk/__data/assets/image/413249/redipod_250.jpg
(not as illustrated)

These look like white iPods viewed through 3-D Glasses.

[ChrisA]

They might as well add a Core 2 Duo Mac Book Pro too.

My gues is that all these whiners would not even notice if you snuck in at night and swapped out ther procesor for a C2D chip. They'd just wake up the next moring fire up the computer and never even notice.

It's like those audiophiles who argue endlessly about if gold plated or silver plated speaker wire sounds better.

[manosaurus]

My gues is that all these whiners would not even notice if you snuck in at night and swapped out ther procesor for a C2D chip. They'd just wake up the next moring fire up the computer and never even notice.

It's like those audiophiles who argue endlessly about if gold plated or silver plated speaker wire sounds better.

Oh... Core 2 Duo gold and silver plated speaker wire tomoorow too!

[technicolor]

I would love to have a red iPod, but I don't know why we would ever give money to help fight AIDS on a continent where the people take NO precautions to prevent themselves from getting AIDS... I mean, sure many children are born with it in Africa, but for soooo many adults, they could prevent the spread if they would just be monogamous.

So there, I solved AIDS for free, no Oprah, no Bono, no Ipods. Just have sex only within a lifetime committed relationship and AIDS is all but gone in one generation!

I'll stick to my black aluminum iPod nano, anyhow. I just hope 10% of the proceeds didn't go to research finding cures for the black plague... or frostbite...
Yeah those poor Africans. I wonder how all the people in America wit AIDS are getting it..:rolleyes:

[aricher]

Oh Bono...

http://www.u2station.com/images/images/oprah_06.jpg

I hope he sterilized that cheek with a blowtorch after the show. Whatever, at least he's a whore for good causes.

[vi2867]

You have to link to the images, not the flickr page.

And that's just the U2 special edition iPod.

Got it...

[MacPhreak]

there is no way apple would make a product release on a pre recorded program with an audiance. Thanks to the internet the release would no longer be a surprise!

Sure there is. They released the 4g iPod in Newsweek. Think of the 100's-1000's of people who handled the Newsweeks who weren't covered by an NDA (and that announcement leaked, too, including the cover of the magazine...one day early; sounds familiar, eh?). Apple did say to expect more announcements in unconventional ways, and less at keynotes.

[e28]

Umm... how does Penelope Cruz and "convertible" have anything to do with an iPod? Just because Bono, Kanye West, and "red" are together, I don't really see how that equals a new red iPod.

[Swarmlord]

Please CAN IT!

CAN IT!

My god we cant talk about anything on this board without the core 2 duo macbook/pro crew coming to mess up a thread THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH LAPTOP UPDATES

CAN IT!
:mad:

Thanks. It had to be said.

[vi2867]

http://static.flickr.com/121/267917812_57f5b710af.jpg?v=0

Since there are no formal announcements schedule. Apple will just bring down the store, and the new products will appear.

They've recently done this when they announced the Mac Book, and the updated iMac Core 2 Duo's...

Apple always keeps us on the edge, because we just don't know how they will announce their new products...

[Rocketman]

You think Mac fanboys are intense, Oprah fangirls are radically intense and a couple of orders of magnitude more numerous. The demographics of the audience tells the story of the "heartstrings" decision to support a charity targeted to women and children.

As for why release it on TV and "risk" a leak (which has happened obviously)? It's simple. The TV audience is vast. The Orpah watchers are MOTIVATED and spenders.

I suspect Apple needs to skew their demo to blacks, females, and people who spend more time on the TV than the internet.

Preparing for a major couch potato release I suspect.

The blurb even ends saying so.

Rocketman

[eenu]

Sure there is. They released the 4g iPod in Newsweek. Think of the 100's-1000's of people who handled the Newsweeks who weren't covered by an NDA (and that announcement leaked, too, including the cover of the magazine...one day early; sounds familiar, eh?). Apple did say to expect more announcements in unconventional ways, and less at keynotes.

it aint gonna happen :D

[bdj21ya]

I would love to have a red iPod, but I don't know why we would ever give money to help fight AIDS on a continent where the people take NO precautions to prevent themselves from getting AIDS... I mean, sure many children are born with it in Africa, but for soooo many adults, they could prevent the spread if they would just be monogamous.

So there, I solved AIDS for free, no Oprah, no Bono, no Ipods. Just have sex only within a lifetime committed relationship and AIDS is all but gone in one generation!

I'll stick to my black aluminum iPod nano, anyhow. I just hope 10% of the proceeds didn't go to research finding cures for the black plague... or frostbite...

Unfortunately, your solution just doesn't work very well for actually solving the problem. A program just to educate Africans about how AIDS is spread would be an enormous cost alone. But I'm sure you're just looking to get flamed. Well, it won't be long now, just wait for it.

[Doctor Q]

I'm considering canceling an iPod order I placed yesterday and switching it to the red one. Not that I'd know the difference.

[jrv3034]

there is no such thing as charity in america, it always comes through commerce. why not just donate the $200 bux? does a lot more than the 10 bux you are donating now, so you can justify getting a new ipod. hell i would buy a red ipod just cos of the color i don't see why the cos has to be associated with it, if they're gonna do this they might as well just donate 10% of all ipod sales. at least it does something more than haveing a "show off" recipet for your so called act of charity.

"Hi i'm bono, there's a huge aids problem in africa and people don't pay attention, heres a new ipod"

wtf.

The point is, If I'm going to buy an iPod, I might as well buy the one that gives a little to those who need it. Everybody wins. How can this be a bad thing?

[calculus]

I'll probably come of sounding like a jerk and opening a HUGE can of worms with this, BUT...

I'm glad somebody else was thinking what I was thinking! Why do we constantly have to place a line between men and women, black and white, American and everyone else. If we actually want equality and unity and all those wonderful things, I think it's about time we stop dilineating between groups of people.

It can't be both ways... if women/minorities want equality in the work place, or government, or in society as a whole, there can't also be inequality in the world when it comes to things like this... men and women, black and white, straight and gay - they have to be equal across the board, or not at all. We can't have it both ways.

That said, bravo to Apple, U2, and anyone else involved here. Anytime you can use your power and influence to raise funds and awareness - no matter the alterior motives - it's a good thing.
Exactly, why just limit this to people with AIDS. That discriminates against people who are healthy.

[QCassidy352]

I would love to have a red iPod, but I don't know why we would ever give money to help fight AIDS on a continent where the people take NO precautions to prevent themselves from getting AIDS

Education to teach how to prevent the spread of AIDS costs money too.

[jrv3034]

Unfortunately, your solution just doesn't work very well for actually solving the problem. A program just to educate Africans about how AIDS is spread would be an enormous cost alone. But I'm sure you're just looking to get flamed. Well, it won't be long now, just wait for it.

That post isn't even worth the time to flame...

[MacPhreak]

...The Orpah watchers are MOTIVATED...

Orpah... I like it :D Kinda like Oompah (ya know, Oompahloompah, as in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, golden ticket? No? Ah, never mind......)

[evilgEEk]

A red nano would look pretty hot. That might just be enough motivation for me to finally buy one.

Of course convincing the wife to let me buy one, now that's different. ;)

[bdj21ya]

That post isn't even worth the time to flame...

Some people seem to be making a half-hearted effort at it, but you're right.

[longofest]

Update: AppleInsider is corroborating the story, and adds that Oprah and Bono filmed a promotional video for the product at Apple's North Michigan Ave. retail store in Chicago today.

[swingerofbirch]

Granted, this is a good thing.

But does anyone else find it ironic that the iPods in question are being made by people who according to media reports could use this type of financial subsidization as well?

[Flowbee]

there is no such thing as charity in america, it always comes through commerce.

Well duh. How do you think people and companies earn the money that they donate? If you're suggesting that nobody donates money without some sort of commercial incentive, then you're just flat-out wrong.

It's ironic that a rumor about Apple donating 5% of red iPod sales to charity is answered with a comment that there is no such thing as charity in America. :rolleyes:

[840quadra]

Red?

I wonder if I have room in my iPod collection for such a device :D .

If this is true, I would be happy to see this come to life, not because of the color, but because of the charity aspect.

[Macnoviz]

Of course you're meant to find it funny - it's a dead-set pi*ser of a story. I laughed for ages when I heard it.

Yes, but only because it really happened, there are tons of jokes out there just like it.

PS Chundles, do you know how to get from Europe to Syndey, at a low cost? (or from Beijing, after taking the Trans-siberian railway)

[bdj21ya]

Granted, this is a good thing.

But does anyone else find it ironic that the iPods in question are being made by people who according to media reports could use this type of financial subsidization as well?

It's not really the same. They are poor and struggling to improve their lives, but their entire people is not being wiped out by a disease that they don't have the resources to understand, much less combat.

[Macnoviz]

Orpah... I like it :D Kinda like Oompah (ya know, Oompahloompah, as in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, golden ticket? No? Ah, never mind......)

Golden ticket, which brings us to the (fake) keynote invitations, which automatically leads to C2D MBP's tomorrow! :eek: My god! They ARE everywhere

[Silencio]

I'll probably come of sounding like a jerk and opening a HUGE can of worms with this, BUT...

I'm glad somebody else was thinking what I was thinking! Why do we constantly have to place a line between men and women, black and white, American and everyone else. If we actually want equality and unity and all those wonderful things, I think it's about time we stop dilineating between groups of people.

It can't be both ways... if women/minorities want equality in the work place, or government, or in society as a whole, there can't also be inequality in the world when it comes to things like this... men and women, black and white, straight and gay - they have to be equal across the board, or not at all. We can't have it both ways.

Maybe because all across the globe, women and children are hugely disadvantaged economically and socially in comparison to men? People who need more help should get more help. People who don't need help shouldn't complain about it. As much as I want it to happen, "equality" is never going to happen in this world, at least the way it's currently structured.

"Empathy" is a four-letter word in America, sadly.

[Chundles]

It's certainly better than an red, glossy 1G nano - hopefully it would have the proper matte, anodised finish of the current nanos rather than the glossy coating ColorWarePC use to do their custom iPods.

Not too bad though...
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7410/picture1pc9.png

[LaMerVipere]

This would definitely be the iPod nano I'd be buying for Christmas, if true. What a great cause! As long as it doesn't have any Bono or Oprah-related crap engraved on it, we're golden.

[QCassidy352]

It's certainly better than an red, glossy 1G nano - hopefully it would have the proper matte, anodised finish of the current nanos rather than the glossy coating ColorWarePC use to do their custom iPods.

Not too bad though...
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7410/picture1pc9.png

that looks pretty good, actually. I'm not sure it's better than the ones they already have, but it's another nice choice.

[calculus]

As long as it doesn't have any Bono or Oprah-related crap engraved on it, we're golden.
That is a worry...

[aprilfools]

Who cares what color an iPod is. Shouldn't really matter. Color does not affect funtionality. What matters is what is on the inside.

[BJNY]

Check out DeaPeaJay's mockup at AppleInsider. Me want.
http://www.exit42design.com/stuffDirectory/redNano.jpg

[Frisco]

Who cares what color an iPod is. Shouldn't really matter. Color does not affect funtionality. What matters is what is on the inside.

iPod Political correctness :cool:

[prady16]

Check out DeaPeaJay's mockup at AppleInsider. Me want.
http://www.exit42design.com/stuffDirectory/redNano.jpg
Looks good!

[Frisco]

Check out DeaPeaJay's mockup at AppleInsider. Me want.
http://www.exit42design.com/stuffDirectory/redNano.jpg

That's Hot! I love the deep red.

[bdj21ya]

Check out DeaPeaJay's mockup at AppleInsider. Me want.
http://www.exit42design.com/stuffDirectory/redNano.jpg

There's an even better one on there with a red clickwheel.

[p0intblank]

Wow, it looks like it's finally happening. Sweet! :D

[twoodcc]

well i must say i'd be very suprized if it happened tomorrow. but in any case, i hope it does!

[Chris Bangle]

I just saw those mock ups on the appleinsder forum and i say that it looks much better than i imagined it to..... Im quite impressed. They will sell millions of them, good for Apple, but better for africa. Red or blue nano, tough decision.......

[extraextra]

That looks nice. If it doesn't have Bono's name/signature/U2-something on it, I might have to buy it!

[Chundles]

There's an even better one on there with a red clickwheel.

Like zees...?

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7410/picture1pc9.png

Because this one you can actually buy - ColorWare do custom colourisation of iPods, computers, accessories, all sorts of things.

[BoyBach]

You think Mac fanboys are intense, Oprah fangirls are radically intense and a couple of orders of magnitude more numerous. The demographics of the audience tells the story of the "heartstrings" decision to support a charity targeted to women and children.

As for why release it on TV and "risk" a leak (which has happened obviously)? It's simple. The TV audience is vast. The Orpah watchers are MOTIVATED and spenders.


I agree. Oprah is an industry all by herself and if this rumour is true and she tells her audience to go and buy the new RED iPod to help in the fight against AIDS, I'd be fairly confident in predicting that it would be best-selling iPod ever.

[bdj21ya]

Like zees...?

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7410/picture1pc9.png

Because this one you can actually buy - ColorWare do custom colourisation of iPods, computers, accessories, all sorts of things.

No, not like that at all. That one hurts my eyes. I mean there's one on there that's like the one I commented on, but same color clickwheel. Like this:

http://www.exit42design.com/stuffDirectory/redNanoClickwheel.jpg

[oober_freak]

Please CAN IT!

CAN IT!

My god we cant talk about anything on this board without the core 2 duo macbook/pro crew coming to mess up a thread THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH LAPTOP UPDATES

CAN IT!
:mad:

mmm.. Red merom macbooks?

:p

[Yvan256]

[...]this one you can actually buy - ColorWare do custom colourisation of iPods, computers, accessories, all sorts of things.

Except that ColorWare paints the products (AFAIK). A red iPod nano from Apple would be red anodized, not red painted.

[Max on Macs]

I hope people like Red, because this is definitely the iPod to buy... goes to a great cause, and doesn't cost you anything more.
Red's not so bad, but I'm afraid to say that even if all of the money and some went to any charity at all, I'd rather have the pink one.

[tny]

there is no such thing as charity in america, it always comes through commerce. why not just donate the $200 bux? does a lot more than the 10 bux you are donating now, so you can justify getting a new ipod. hell i would buy a red ipod just cos of the color i don't see why the cos has to be associated with it, if they're gonna do this they might as well just donate 10% of all ipod sales. at least it does something more than haveing a "show off" recipet for your so called act of charity.

"Hi i'm bono, there's a huge aids problem in africa and people don't pay attention, heres a new ipod"

wtf.


Last I checked, Bono was Irish.

[Chundles]

Except that ColorWare paints the products (AFAIK). A red iPod nano from Apple would be red anodized, not red painted.

Yeah, I posted that earlier - I want the proper matte anodised finish. But RED, not that trendy pinkish colour that's going around at the moment. Proper, primary RED.

[e28]

Check out DeaPeaJay's mockup at AppleInsider. Me want.
http://www.exit42design.com/stuffDirectory/redNano.jpg

No, this is the Target special edition nano that comes with a Target gift card.

[cadillaccactus]

i saw this being filmed while on lunch this afternoon. The GAP that's about a block away from the Apple store was wrapped in a bunch of (RED) garbage too.

[parkds]

Why is U2 so big with iPods anyways? The only group to have their own iPod. :confused:

(I don't mean to be disrespectful to the U2 fanboys out there)

Could be because Bono bought Steve Jobs apartment in New York City from him.

[dmcxii]

Regardless of how you feel about Oprah she does have some clout. She actually got adults to read (remember her book club). In addition she could get lots of her watchers to buy a song on itunes simply by mentioning it on her show. And don't forget that iTunes also sells audiobooks.

One mention on Oprah about how if you buy this song/audiobook in the next week and 10% will go for the AIDS cause could be good for Apple/iTunes.

One last thought....
Oprah + Nike + iTunes (Apple) = lots of Oprah viewers downloading suggested files and then exercising.

Just thinking out loud I guess.

[vi2867]

http://www.exit42design.com/stuffDirectory/redNano.jpg

Just make the click wheel black, and the controls red, and you got yourself the New U2 iPod Nano!

The metallic candy apple red makes it look good...

[840quadra]

Those look Burgundy to me, I was hoping for a more proper red, but alas those are Mock ups!

[whatever]

Please CAN IT!

CAN IT!

My god we cant talk about anything on this board without the core 2 duo macbook/pro crew coming to mess up a thread THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH LAPTOP UPDATES

CAN IT!
:mad:
And maybe they'll add the Mac Pro Mini Tower.....

Only joking.

[Buhbuhb]

i saw this being filmed while on lunch this afternoon. The GAP that's about a block away from the Apple store was wrapped in a bunch of (RED) garbage too.

Bono, Oprah, GAP, and APPLE...

The world is going to be turned upside down.

[Silencio]

Way to display your ignorance, Saladin.

Don't you know that Led Zeppelin never licenses their name and music for anything? Besides Cadillac and the Almost Famous soundtrack.

[nagromme]

A lot of charity products COST more--you are simply making a donation yourself--but apparently this is Apple making the donation at no cost to you?

Plus, a red aluminum iPod nano with iPod mini styling is pretty much my dream iPod.

In that case, I was wondering why the 25% negative votes?

I will make a blind guess without reading the thread. "The team who designed the red color should have been working on a Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro instead, stupid Apple :mad: "

[BJNY]

No, not like that at all. That one hurts my eyes. I mean there's one on there that's like the one I commented on, but same color clickwheel. Like this:

http://www.exit42design.com/stuffDirectory/redNanoClickwheel.jpg

Me want.

[whatever]

there is no such thing as charity in america, it always comes through commerce. why not just donate the $200 bux? does a lot more than the 10 bux you are donating now, so you can justify getting a new ipod. hell i would buy a red ipod just cos of the color i don't see why the cos has to be associated with it, if they're gonna do this they might as well just donate 10% of all ipod sales. at least it does something more than haveing a "show off" recipet for your so called act of charity.

"Hi i'm bono, there's a huge aids problem in africa and people don't pay attention, heres a new ipod"

wtf.
Alright, what is a "bux", "cos", "haveing", and "recipet".

Perhaps you need to enroll in the ""The Derek Zoolander Center For Children Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too"

The thing about this is that it allows Bono to use Apple and the iPod to bring further awareness to this cause.

And as far as your comment "there is no such thing as charity in america, it always comes through commerce. why not just donate the $200 bux?", give me a FU^K1ng break! I can name one american who has donated more money from their pocket this year alone than any other country in the world combined. And that's just one American. And let's not even talk about what percentage of the hard working American's tax dollars goes to foreign aid.

Granted it could be more in some areas (and less in many others), but don't make it look like we Americans are not charitable people.

I apoligize for getting off topic. Whether or not you like U2 /Bono or Apple, I don't see why it's necessary to knock people who are trying to make a difference, no matter how large or small it may be, at least they're trying.

[Mogenshu]

I'm just not understanding two things. One, how is this a negative thing? People are getting money, they would not otherwise get. The other thing I don't get is talking about how apple is only giving 5% and not 10%. Would you rather them give 0% like they currently are? Get off your high horse and stop flaming companies that give money to charities.

[nagromme]

I wouldn't want a red clickwheel unless it was metal. Red plastic would not match the rest well.

PS, I wish the nano clickwheels lit up blinding white in the dark like on the ads :)

[whatever]

I would love to have a red iPod, but I don't know why we would ever give money to help fight AIDS on a continent where the people take NO precautions to prevent themselves from getting AIDS... I mean, sure many children are born with it in Africa, but for soooo many adults, they could prevent the spread if they would just be monogamous.

So there, I solved AIDS for free, no Oprah, no Bono, no Ipods. Just have sex only within a lifetime committed relationship and AIDS is all but gone in one generation!

I'll stick to my black aluminum iPod nano, anyhow. I just hope 10% of the proceeds didn't go to research finding cures for the black plague... or frostbite...
It makes me so happy to know that there are still plenty of stupid people in the world.

Thank you

[timmillwood]

Lets just hope that when the update the store with the iPods they put the Core 2 Duo Macbook Pros on too

[whatever]

"Empathy" is a four-letter word in America, sadly.
I must be wearing my RED-WHITE-Blue boxers today or something, but how can you make a comment like that.

The noun meaning for empathy is the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.

Do you honestly believe that Americans do not practice this.

Are we a perfect people. No, but who is. I think at the end of the day we do more good than bad.

[Macnoviz]

No, not like that at all. That one hurts my eyes. I mean there's one on there that's like the one I commented on, but same color clickwheel. Like this:

http://www.exit42design.com/stuffDirectory/redNanoClickwheel.jpg

I don't know, it looks kinda pink, I would like to see it darker, blackisher (not Burgundy, mind you)

[wkhahn]

I would love to have a red iPod, but I don't know why we would ever give money to help fight AIDS on a continent where the people take NO precautions to prevent themselves from getting AIDS... I mean, sure many children are born with it in Africa, but for soooo many adults, they could prevent the spread if they would just be monogamous.

So there, I solved AIDS for free, no Oprah, no Bono, no Ipods. Just have sex only within a lifetime committed relationship and AIDS is all but gone in one generation!

I'll stick to my black aluminum iPod nano, anyhow. I just hope 10% of the proceeds didn't go to research finding cures for the black plague... or frostbite...

Thank you Captain Obvious. Next you'll tell me that water is generally wet. I'll bet you know people who have had sex outside a monogamous relationship, and you probably live outside of Africa. While you're solution, if put into perfect practice, would "solve" the problem, this solution is not even workable in more modern societies, much less those where the local healer has more credibility and less reliable information than the Doctors Without Borders or Peace Crops volunteers. Part of the problem with AIDS in Africa is the belief that men who have sex, whether consensual or not, with a virgin girl will cure themselves of AIDS. So of course the focus in on women and children. Treat and support the women, so they can help raise the children resulting from these unwanted sexual encounters,and educate the children, boys and girls alike, about the realities of the disease.

[Cinch]

It makes me so happy to know that there are still plenty of stupid people in the world.

Thank you


no need to respond to such obvious bait
;)

Cinch

[PlaceofDis]

kinda looks like a Target iPod Nano, no? :p

[clintob]

This will probably go over like a lead balloon, but there is something to be said for natural selection. NOW BEFORE YOU START SCREAMING, hear me out...

AIDS is an awful thing, especially to the proportions it has affected the people of Africa. But there is also a reason AIDS has taken over there the way it is, and it's only partially to do with poverty. AIDS has exploded in that population, because it is a population that is extremely traditional, rudimentary, and in many ways archaic. There are many wonderful things about the African people, but there were also many wonderful things about the Dinosaurs, the Dodo bird, and numerous others.

Please don't take this to mean I'm equating the people of Africa with wild animals. I'm not. But in many ways, the people of Africa are in the situation they are in because they have not evolved the same way as most of the world, and in that respect, they are paying a price. Yes, it is our responsibility as human beings to try and help people in need, and that is a wonderful thing. But at the end of the day, if we did nothing, there would still be a small percentage of African people who will survive this epidemic, and they will be more educated and elightened than the ones who do not.

Much in the way that forest fires, although terrible in some respects, are essential to the rejuvenation of the population and ecosystem in that area, so too are epidemics and catastrophes. And this not a bash-on-Africa comment... the Black Plague was the same idea. Too many people, living in too close quarters, with too little regard for health or wellbeing. Millions died, but many survived, and the ones that did were smarter and wiser for it.

The people of Africa are not necessarily as helpless as the may seem from the outside. They just have a different culture and mindset than Western people do. Right or wrong is not for us to decide, but adapting to nature is part of life on Earth... and sometimes that means that large numbers of people or animals die, needlessly or otherwise. Just my two cents.

[nagromme]

I would love to have a red iPod, but I don't know why we would ever give money to help fight AIDS on a continent where the people take NO precautions to prevent themselves from getting AIDS...
Pretending that your trolling is real:

Money to fight AIDS includes educational efforts so people WILL take precautions.

Just like the educational efforts we have here in the US, where people are not lifetime monogamous :)

PS, "we" wouldn't be giving the money, Apple would. "We" would just get a new color iPod :)


There are many wonderful things about the African people, but there were also many wonderful things about the Dinosaurs, the Dodo bird, and numerous others.
I assume you're not really equating natural selection and genetic evolution, with cultural factors like education.

Because they're actually not the same thing, nor do they work the same.

For instance, here's an interesting fact: dying is necessary for natural selection to work. Dying is NOT necessary for education to work.

So you see, there's an option that involves less dying and suffering. That's what you may be overlooking in your zeal :)

By your logic, why help anyone, when letting them die will make people "smarter and wiser?" Why, children who get hurt on skateboards and behind the wheel should be turned away from hospitals. We would create a super race worthy of the 3rd Reich :o

(Need I mention that much of mathematics, astronomy, and science came from "rudimentary" and "archaic" African scientists who were far ahead of their European counterparts? I'm guessing whatever you have been reading may have omitted some parts of history :) )

[parenthesis]

5% isn't a whole lot, considering Apple's profit margin is huge for iPods.

But considering how many iPods Apple sells, it would amount to a significant amount of money for the charity.

[calculus]

Here's a challenge. How about everyone here who has an iPod gives $10 or equivalent to this charity?

[Mac Fly (film)]

Bono, whilst playing a gig in Glasgow, got the whole crowd to be silent and then began slowly clapping his hands. He got the crowd to clap along for a while, the stadium quiet except for the rhythmic clapping...

After a short period Bono spoke, saying that everytime he clapped his hands a child in Africa died...

Suddenly, from the front row of the venue a voice broke out in thick Scottish brogue, ending the silence as it echoed across the crowd, the voice cried out to Bono "Well stop f***king doing it then!!"

True story.

Red glossy 1G nano - blergh, red anodised 2G nano - could be cool.
Great story too!!

[peharri]

Weird. Could have sworn I responded to this.

Anyway, this strikes me as unbelievably cynical. I doubt Apple's advertising is usually below 10% of the revenue of the iPods, yet they're giving $10 (5%) of revenues to a charity in exchange for a feel-good factor and marketing from Bono.

I'm all for AIDS prevention, but there's not a single aspect of this story that doesn't strike me as crass and exploitative.

[nagromme]

I'm all for AIDS prevention, but there's not a single aspect of this story that doesn't strike me as crass and exploitative.
Agreed. Apple should stop being so exploitative and give nothing! :o

Apple's not the first in the RED program. Maybe the program HAS done some good and thus is continuing?


Here's a challenge. How about everyone here who has an iPod gives $10 or equivalent to this charity?
Hmmm.... a matching program would be cool--it could all be done electronically, like when Apple has had disaster charity giving built right into iTMS.

So when you buy a Red iPod, you pick the price :) If you pay more than normal, Apple will match your donation, and will pay a minimum of 10% regardless.

[Mac Fly (film)]

http://www.exit42design.com/stuffDirectory/redNano.jpg


I've loved anodized aluminum ever since I was a kid. I always really loved the vibrance anodization gave to colors, don't know really why. In a way it's just something that always kinda made perfect sense to me.

[Rocketman]

I just think we should give it a cute subculture name:

The candycane nano.

That way when it catches on and becomes a fad, the TV reporters have to say it all started on Macrumors.com.

I wonder if that would stick in Steve's craw, since he tickles the rumour sites, or make him laugh all the way to the bank?

Rocketman

[iEric]

oh is bono releasing a new album soon?

i read this article that takes a look at bono's charity giving at times it occurs and it seems that every time he does something like this, he is nearing an album release.

but otherwise a very nice contribution to fight against aids.

[clintob]

I assume you're not really equating natural selection and genetic evolution, with cultural factors like education.

Because they're actually not the same thing, nor do they work the same.

For instance, here's an interesting fact: dying is necessary for natural selection to work. Dying is NOT necessary for education to work.

So you see, there's an option that involves less dying and suffering. That's what you may be overlooking in your zeal :)

By your logic, why help anyone, when letting them die will make people "smarter and wiser?" Why, children who get hurt on skateboards and behind the wheel should be turned away from hospitals. We would create a super race worthy of the 3rd Reich :o

(Need I mention that much of mathematics, astronomy, and science came from "rudimentary" and "archaic" African scientists who were far ahead of their European counterparts? I'm guessing whatever you have been reading may have omitted some parts of history :) )

Ah, classic manipulation of an idea. At no point in that post did I say "helping people" is a bad thing, or that it should never be done. Quite the contrary... I actually said:
it is our responsibility as human beings to try and help people in need, and that is a wonderful thing

So please, don't cherrypick. Education is the only answer to this problem, nobody disputes that. But to say there is absolutely no correlation between the death and suffering going on in Africa, and a large portion of that society which is beyond help and beyond the limitations of education would be naive.

There are times in human history when, despite all our better efforts, nature is going to run its course, and those groups who have not adapted their lifestlye and way of thinking are left behind. I'm certainly not saying don't try, nor am I saying that saving even a single life wouldn't be worth the effort. I'm merely saying that Africa's problems are deeper than education. There's a culture there that has been in place a lot longer than even our own system of education and medicine has existed. To think that we can change that by giving them some condoms, explaining how they work and why it's important, is foolish. I'm saying that Africa will sort out it's own problems in time, when those individuals who recognize the problem for themselves get a voice. We can help, and every little bit helps, but it's not ours to fix. This is FAR FAR more complex and rooted than a kid who hurts his knee on a skateboard.

[richdun]

I think we can call this confirmed. The Chicago Tribune has a pic of Bono and Oprah using the red Nano on the front page of their website - http://www.chicagotribune.com/

A further story by the Trib says this will happen on Friday (tomorrow) - http://www.chicagotribune.com/technology/chi-061012red-ipod-story,1,3682862.story?coll=chi-news-hed

[termite]

Normally Oprah tapes a ton of shows over the course of a few weeks, and they are edited and aired over the course of a couple months. So the idea of "tape today, show tomorrow" seems unlikely to me -- for one, they would have to be assuming Absolutely Nothing Goes Wrong during editing.

It could happen, but it seems too quick to me. Alternately, maybe they taped it earlier.

[macenforcer]

Ah, classic manipulation of an idea. At no point in that post did I say "helping people" is a bad thing, or that it should never be done. Quite the contrary... I actually said:


So please, don't cherrypick. Education is the only answer to this problem, nobody disputes that. But to say there is absolutely no correlation between the death and suffering going on in Africa, and a large portion of that society which is beyond help and beyond the limitations of education would be naive.

There are times in human history when, despite all our better efforts, nature is going to run its course, and those groups who have not adapted their lifestlye and way of thinking are left behind. I'm certainly not saying don't try, nor am I saying that saving even a single life wouldn't be worth the effort. I'm merely saying that Africa's problems are deeper than education. There's a culture there that has been in place a lot longer than even our own system of education and medicine has existed. To think that we can change that by giving them some condoms, explaining how they work and why it's important, is foolish. I'm saying that Africa will sort out it's own problems in time, when those individuals who recognize the problem for themselves get a voice. We can help, and every little bit helps, but it's not ours to fix. This is FAR FAR more complex and rooted than a kid who hurts his knee on a skateboard.


AMEN brotha!

[noservice2001]

i started singing "sunday, bloody sunday" in class today.... really random as i dont really listen to U2...


and who is oprey? u mean oprah?

[Butler Trumpet]

I just checked my digital cable and the title of the show says "Bono's Red Campaign" So yeah I would say so

[FreeState]

I'll probably come of sounding like a jerk and opening a HUGE can of worms with this, BUT...

...Why do we constantly have to place a line between men and women, black and white, American and everyone else.


You do realize HIV effects women differently than men? It also effects children differently than adults.

Do yourself a favor and do a quick google on how much money has been spent on HIV research and prevention for children and women, compare that to men with HIV. Then do a search on children/women with HIV and mortality rates compared to men w/HIV.

We live in a very sexist society. HIV research was never funded or taken seriously by society at large until heterosexual white men started to develop AIDS.

[bdj21ya]

This will probably go over like a lead balloon, but there is something to be said for natural selection. NOW BEFORE YOU START SCREAMING, hear me out...

AIDS is an awful thing, especially to the proportions it has affected the people of Africa. But there is also a reason AIDS has taken over there the way it is, and it's only partially to do with poverty. AIDS has exploded in that population, because it is a population that is extremely traditional, rudimentary, and in many ways archaic. There are many wonderful things about the African people, but there were also many wonderful things about the Dinosaurs, the Dodo bird, and numerous others.

Please don't take this to mean I'm equating the people of Africa with wild animals. I'm not. But in many ways, the people of Africa are in the situation they are in because they have not evolved the same way as most of the world, and in that respect, they are paying a price. Yes, it is our responsibility as human beings to try and help people in need, and that is a wonderful thing. But at the end of the day, if we did nothing, there would still be a small percentage of African people who will survive this epidemic, and they will be more educated and elightened than the ones who do not.

Much in the way that forest fires, although terrible in some respects, are essential to the rejuvenation of the population and ecosystem in that area, so too are epidemics and catastrophes. And this not a bash-on-Africa comment... the Black Plague was the same idea. Too many people, living in too close quarters, with too little regard for health or wellbeing. Millions died, but many survived, and the ones that did were smarter and wiser for it.

The people of Africa are not necessarily as helpless as the may seem from the outside. They just have a different culture and mindset than Western people do. Right or wrong is not for us to decide, but adapting to nature is part of life on Earth... and sometimes that means that large numbers of people or animals die, needlessly or otherwise. Just my two cents.

I admire your commitment to the evolutionary approach. I would just like to point out that evolution has also created the compassion (or at least social conscience) that inspires this sort of effort. Perhaps this compassion is a trait that increases the survivability of our species in a way too. (I'm not suggesting that all traits increase survivability, but evolution has been going for some time now, and compassion has been a human trait for some time as well, so perhaps the two are friends for some reason).

[jaigo]

why is apple wasting time, money and resources on a damn red U2 ipod? I hope the Zune becomes a big hit and takes a big chunk out of apple market share so they can focus on making a better product instead of these stupid minor updates and colors. :mad:

[Macnoviz]

I think we can call this confirmed. The Chicago Tribune has a pic of Bono and Oprah using the red Nano on the front page of their website - http://www.chicagotribune.com/

A further story by the Trib says this will happen on Friday (tomorrow) - http://www.chicagotribune.com/technology/chi-061012red-ipod-story,1,3682862.story?coll=chi-news-hed

I call fake
It's definitly photoshoped, you can see the headphones are shorter than the normal headphones :D

no, really


Is that a C2D MBP in the background?

[nagromme]

I'm saying that Africa will sort out it's own problems in time, when those individuals who recognize the problem for themselves get a voice. We can help, and every little bit helps, but it's not ours to fix. This is FAR FAR more complex and rooted than a kid who hurts his knee on a skateboard.
I don't think anyone, from Bono to me, thinks red iPods are a complete solution. Of course complex problems have complex solutions. And yet programs like the ones Red supports--which are not limited to education--help.

And speaking of cherrypicking, you left some things unaddressed :) I'm seeing a LOT more in your original post than just "we can't fix this alone." That much is true. But going on to say that Africans must be allowed to die so they can evolve and catch up is extreme and unreasonable.

It's always nice to find a reason not to make something "my problem." That's a great feeling. But I think you have gone in a pretty bad "us and them" direction with that.

[macenforcer]

You do realize HIV effects women differently than men? It also effects children differently than adults.

Do yourself a favor and do a quick google on how much money has been spent on HIV research and prevention for children and women, compare that to men with HIV. Then do a search on children/women with HIV and mortality rates compared to men w/HIV.

We live in a very sexist society. HIV research was never funded or taken seriously by society at large until heterosexual white men started to develop AIDS.


Ha ha, You are nuts. Let me tell you how it works.

Nobody gets rich by curing a disease. That is why diabetes, AIDS, HIV etc are all treated with "Keep you alive but not cure you drugs" that you have to buy for the rest of your life. The government and drug companies are in it together and are pure evil. Ain't nobody going to cure anything unless they can keep making money doing it. Get it? Good.

[bdj21ya]

Ha ha, You are nuts. Let me tell you how it works.

Nobody gets rich by curing a disease. That is why diabetes, AIDS, HIV etc are all treated with "Keep you alive but not cure you drugs" that you have to buy for the rest of your life. The government and drug companies are in it together and are pure evil. Ain't nobody going to cure anything unless they can keep making money doing it. Get it? Good.

I agree that the drugs are a pretty silly "solution". Spending millions to keep people alive a little longer only makes sense if there isn't a better way to spend the money. I think it makes a lot more sense to spend money on education efforts and economic development. Education and increased economic opportunity, not drugs, are going to solve this problem.

[Cinch]

I admire your commitment to the evolutionary approach. I would just like to point out that evolution has also created the compassion (or at least social conscience) that inspires this sort of effort. Perhaps this compassion is a trait that increases the survivability of our species in a way too. (I'm not suggesting that all traits increase survivability, but evolution has been going for some time now, and compassion has been a human trait for some time as well, so perhaps the two are friends for some reason).


digressing to the point of no return..:D

Compassion I think is an emergent phenomenon and I think there is an simpler explanation to your "quest" or debate here. What about individual wanting to create a nurturing environment (society) and helping others in time of need is a result of this behavior. Consequently, we construct a positive nurturing environment that is the "best" environement to raise our children (offspring). I think the new field of evolutionary psychology provides a very useful tool of looking human behavior.

[MacPhreak]

Ha ha, You are nuts. Let me tell you how it works.

Nobody gets rich by curing a disease. That is why diabetes, AIDS, HIV etc are all treated with "Keep you alive but not cure you drugs" that you have to buy for the rest of your life. The government and drug companies are in it together and are pure evil. Ain't nobody going to cure anything unless they can keep making money doing it. Get it? Good.

So how's your Polio treating you?

[macenforcer]

So how's your Polio treating you?

Cured because the president had polio and before the corporate greed infrastructure took hold. NEXT...


Still making money on the polio vaccinations though ain't they.

[clintob]

You do realize HIV effects women differently than men? It also effects children differently than adults.

Do yourself a favor and do a quick google on how much money has been spent on HIV research and prevention for children and women, compare that to men with HIV. Then do a search on children/women with HIV and mortality rates compared to men w/HIV.

We live in a very sexist society. HIV research was never funded or taken seriously by society at large until heterosexual white men started to develop AIDS.

I don't want to pick a fight, because that wasn't the intention of my post, but I'm sorry - this statement is, if not patently false, at very least highly misguided and irresponsible.

The mortality rate of HIV is far higher in men than in women - and it always has been. You look this up very easily all over the web, on the CDC's website, and any number of other places... it's very clear. But if you really want to go there, here's an empirical medical fact: at its worst levels of infection (in the mid 1990s), HIV mortality rates were nearly 30 per 100,000 for men, and barely over 5 per 100,000 in women. Look it up.

As for the disease affecting men/women/children differently, sure that's true, but it's true for pretty much every disease. Children's mortality rates are almost always higher than healthy adults. They are smaller, weaker, and have less developed immune systems. That's got nothing to do with HIV.

And as for when HIV research was taken seriously, I think to make a sexist claim against that is pretty unfounded. You can certainly make the heterosexual part of the argument - that's been well documented. But to say that science discriminates between male and female disease affliction rates is completely irresponsible. Our society is sexist in many ways, no argument there, but to say that scientific research is based on the proportion of male afflictions to female afflictions is insane. If that were true, breast cancer (which, by the way, affects FAR less women than prostate cancer does men) wouldn't be on every commercial and in every fundraiser known to man.

[MacPhreak]

Cured because the president had polio and before the corporate greed infrastructure took hold. NEXT...

You're a barrel of monkeys, aren't you? Remind me to move to the other end of the bar next time you're in town. If memory serves, polio was cured AFTER FDR died/left office, in fact almost 20 years later.

Polio vaccines??? Are you serious?? When was the last time anyone had one? Forty years? Please.

[andiwm2003]

Ha ha, You are nuts. Let me tell you how it works.

Nobody gets rich by curing a disease. That is why diabetes, AIDS, HIV etc are all treated with "Keep you alive but not cure you drugs" that you have to buy for the rest of your life. The government and drug companies are in it together and are pure evil. Ain't nobody going to cure anything unless they can keep making money doing it. Get it? Good.


total BS and an insult to any scientist and doctor working overtime like crazy to find cures. sounds like a conspiracy theorist or a 13 year old speaking.:rolleyes:

[Creibold]

Look at the Story on the front page of the chicago tribune, it's true. It says right there that apple is introducing a Red iPod Nano, it's not photoshoped you goofs.

[clintob]

going on to say that Africans must be allowed to die so they can evolve and catch up is extreme and unreasonable.

It's always nice to find a reason not to make something "my problem." That's a great feeling. But I think you have gone in a pretty bad "us and them" direction with that.

I didn't say that at all. What I said is that it's been documented throughout history that people, animals, plants, and any other form of life on Earth go through phases where large groups die off. Yes, we are intelligent, educated animals with intellect and compassion, and it is therefore our job to try and curtail those deaths that are unfiar and inhumane. Nobody in their right mind would argue that.

What I'm saying is that when a group of people emerge (not ALL the African people - namely the group of African men who have decided that it is their duty to rape, impregnate, and pilage to their hearts content) who commit crimes against humanity, and then start to wreap the whirlwind, it's "natural" for those people to eventually meet their end - whether it be natural or otherwise. There are an AWFUL lot of African people who are compeltely innocent and in many ways helpless and it is our duty as leaders of the free world to help in any way we can. Of course - that's obvious.

But we also have to leand creedence to the idea that there's a portion of the African culture that is too deeply rooted for us to change, and that has to be allowed to die out on its own. Not the people themselves - the notions that are ingrained in that culture that have caused this problem. Those notions need to die off, and that will only happen in time.

THAT is what I'm trying to say.

[whooleytoo]

Maybe because all across the globe, women and children are hugely disadvantaged economically and socially in comparison to men? People who need more help should get more help.


Generally, that's a good point. But in this case I don't think it's significant: your average adult male in Africa is likely to be more affluent than the average adult female (or child), sure - but it's not as if he can afford quality healthcare either!

It's just people at two different levels of poverty, neither of whom can afford the healthcare they need.

[jwdsail]

No, this is the Target special edition nano that comes with a Target gift card.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that though along that line, lol.

[joel8x]

This site is so wierd - 10 people actually clicked on the negative rating to this story like there is anything negative about it.

[someguy]

Steve, if you are reading this, make a nano in ORANGE and I'll buy one. :)


Sorry if someone already mentioned orange in this thread. I just came along and couldn't be bothered to read the entire thread up to this point.

ORANGE!

[Chundles]

Steve, if you are reading this, make a nano in ORANGE and I'll buy one. :)


Sorry if someone already mentioned orange in this thread. I just came along and couldn't be bothered to read the entire thread up to this point.

ORANGE!

Yep, seconded. And proper, bright, "safety orange."

[bdj21ya]

Steve, if you are reading this, make a nano in ORANGE and I'll buy one. :)


Sorry if someone already mentioned orange in this thread. I just came along and couldn't be bothered to read the entire thread up to this point.

ORANGE!

Personally, I'd love a true blue or navy blue one.

[FreeState]

The mortality rate of HIV is far higher in men than in women - and it always has been. You look this up very easily all over the web, on the CDC's website, and any number of other places... it's very clear. But if you really want to go there, here's an empirical medical fact: at its worst levels of infection (in the mid 1990s), HIV mortality rates were nearly 30 per 100,000 for men, and barely over 5 per 100,000 in women. Look it up.

Maybe we miss understand each other here, but Im talking about mortality rates of woman and children WITH HIV. Not mortality rates of all women and children. Those are two totally different things...


See...

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/455527

Although in some studies HIV infection does not progress more rapidly in women than in men,[12] there does seem to be a propensity among women to progress from AIDS to death more quickly. Delayed diagnosis of HIV-1 infection could explain a more rapid progression to AIDS. Escalating numbers of women contract HIV-1 infection each year, with increasing morbidity and mortality as a result of underrecognition and undertreatment of the disease compared with that in men.[2] Identification of at-risk women is a crucial step in ensuring adequate treatment. A recent study in Baltimore showed that women who use crack or cocaine but not intravenous drugs may still be at great risk for HIV infection because of their involvement in high-risk sexual behaviors and their history of multiple partners.[13] Thus, the range of women who are at risk is broader than initially was realized.



and

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9C0CE0D8143BF93BA15751C1A962958260

Women With H.I.V. Found to Die Faster Than Men

Women who are infected with the virus that causes AIDS die faster than men with the infection, a large study has found.

No medical reason for the difference was apparent, said the study's authors, led by Dr. Sandra L. Melnick, an epidemiologist at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health. They suggested that women may wait until they are sicker before seeking care or may be treated differently.

The study tracked 768 women and 3,779 men, all infected with H.I.V., the human immunodeficiency virus, for about 15 months and found that women were 33 percent more likely to die than men who were comparably ill when they were enrolled in the study.

[mi5moav]

I hope somehow apple creates forum software with spotlight search so as soon as I start typing something it searches through 500 pages of posts and on the right side of the screen will show similar comments, who posted it, and on what pages similar comments are/where posted.

[mumbo]

You know what would also be nice? If they released the new Shuffle. It's been a month already.

[direzz]

I hope somehow apple creates forum software with spotlight search so as soon as I start typing something it searches through 500 pages of posts and on the right side of the screen will show similar comments, who posted it, and on what pages similar comments are/where posted.


:rolleyes: buddy, this forum was designed on a pc.

[TonySwartz]

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5216/indexfallingnanos20061012fz5.th.png (http://img189.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexfallingnanos20061012fz5.png)

[rdrr]

This will probably go over like a lead balloon, but there is something to be said for natural selection. NOW BEFORE YOU START SCREAMING, hear me out...

AIDS is an awful thing, especially to the proportions it has affected the people of Africa. But there is also a reason AIDS has taken over there the way it is, and it's only partially to do with poverty. AIDS has exploded in that population, because it is a population that is extremely traditional, rudimentary, and in many ways archaic. There are many wonderful things about the African people, but there were also many wonderful things about the Dinosaurs, the Dodo bird, and numerous others.

Please don't take this to mean I'm equating the people of Africa with wild animals. I'm not. But in many ways, the people of Africa are in the situation they are in because they have not evolved the same way as most of the world, and in that respect, they are paying a price. Yes, it is our responsibility as human beings to try and help people in need, and that is a wonderful thing. But at the end of the day, if we did nothing, there would still be a small percentage of African people who will survive this epidemic, and they will be more educated and elightened than the ones who do not.

Much in the way that forest fires, although terrible in some respects, are essential to the rejuvenation of the population and ecosystem in that area, so too are epidemics and catastrophes. And this not a bash-on-Africa comment... the Black Plague was the same idea. Too many people, living in too close quarters, with too little regard for health or wellbeing. Millions died, but many survived, and the ones that did were smarter and wiser for it.

The people of Africa are not necessarily as helpless as the may seem from the outside. They just have a different culture and mindset than Western people do. Right or wrong is not for us to decide, but adapting to nature is part of life on Earth... and sometimes that means that large numbers of people or animals die, needlessly or otherwise. Just my two cents.

Dude... That has to be the most racist thing I have ever read! :eek:

Evolved???? And comparing humans to natural selection of animals????

[clintob]

Dude... That has to be the most racist thing I have ever read! :eek:

Evolved????

Please... check the dictionary before getting bent out of shape.

Evolve is different than evolution. You can evolve in more ways than they show you on the little Ape to Man chart. Evolve is a word in the English language, specifically a verb, which means "to develop gradually".

[bdj21ya]

Dude... That has to be the most racist thing I have ever read! :eek:

Evolved???? And comparing humans to natural selection of animals????

I don't see the point of your incredulity (come on man using 4 question marks twice in one post. That's totally flagrant).

We aren't any different. Social interaction is just another aspect of biological evolution. It all breaks down to reactions between atoms and there's nothing racist about it. Are you going to tell me that the evolution of animals doesn't depend on their social interactions?

[orangephoto]

all political and humanitarian concerns aside.. I have been waiting for a red iPod since forever.

Red is my fav color lol

and the fact that it helps somebody is amazing. i dont care who it is. everyone deservs help. so everyone should stop complaining that men dont get it or whatever. shut up please

really

and red. i mean omfg amazing.


sorry if i sound stupid.

[rdrr]

Please... check the dictionary before getting bent out of shape.

Evolve is different than evolution. You can evolve in more ways than they show you on the little Ape to Man chart. Evolve is a word in the English language, specifically a verb, which means "to develop gradually".

So because they are poor, and haven't "developed", we should sit back and allow them to die, in order to thin out the human population? What makes the human race different from all the other animals is the ability for us to change our fate with tools. I would gather that if you were to take our technology away, say with an EMP, you would find that the people of Africa would have the skills to survive, while us Americans would suffer with our under developed hunting and gathering skills. Your view is way too narrow, and very American.

[clintob]

Maybe we miss understand each other here, but Im talking about mortality rates of woman and children WITH HIV. Not mortality rates of all women and children. Those are two totally different things...

Oh, okay... misunderstood your first point. But, in that respect, it's worth noting that the corolation you're making could be made for any number of diseases - heart disease, liver failure, certain cancerns, etc. Female mortality rates are generally higher for many diseases. I'm not sure what the scientific reasoning is for this... perhaps someone here has a medical background more developed than mine who would know the answer to that. I would guess it's the same reasoning as for children, in that women are generally smaller and thus likely have less physical cell mass, and thus less innate ability to fight disease?

Either way, your original point is well-taken... but the overall numbers are still heavily skewed towards more men than women being afflicted. Not sure what that means, and at this point we can talk in circles about who is right and who is wrong, but it doesn't amount to much.

It's a terrible tragedy that the disease exists in the first place, let alone spreads, and if donating a percentage of the proceeds from a successful business helps that cause in some way I'm all for it - whether there are alterior motives or not is immaterial. It's a good thing.

[ascender]

Wow, can't believe some of the posts on here!

Its a limited edition iPod and by buying it, it looks like a donation will be made to a charitable organisation set up by people who are trying to make a difference, which wants to help people less fortunate than us. Where's the problem?

[JRomero]

I scanned over to tomorrow's Oprah show on the DirecTV guide, and it says "RED campaign to fight AIDS."

[jacg]

Apparently Sting is to be involved in the launch of the brown Zune. 5% will go to fight diarrhoea in Africa.

;)

(PS don't flame me. Diarrhoea, unlike the brown zune, is not a laughing matter.)

[LaMerVipere]

100% confirmed.

via Chicago Tribune:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5016/25865863uz2.jpg

[clintob]

So because they are poor, and haven't "developed", we should sit back and allow them to die, in order to thin out the human population? What makes the human race different from all the other animals is the ability for us to change our fate with tools. I would gather that if you were to take our technology away, say with an EMP, you would find that the people of Africa would have the skills to survive, while us Americans would suffer with our under developed hunting and gathering skills. Your view is way too narrow, and very American.

Please read the entire post, think about it, and then respond.

I never said we should allow anyone to die - I said the exact opposite... that it is our job to be compassionate and to try and help in any way we can. My point was that there are certain aspects of the culture in African society which have bene ingrained in their way of live far longer than any western culture has even been in existence. So to think we can change that with any amount of money or education is naive.

We can and should try to save lives, and that is always a good thing. The African people are human beings, no better or worse than Americans or Brits or any other culture, color, or country. But at the end of the day, it comes down to the age-old question of whether it's our job, responsibility, or even our right to impose our culture and belief system on another. I'm merely saying that these people have chosen to develop their culture in a certain way, and perhaps they need something other than our system of education to change that. They need time... and unfortunately with that time will come deaths. I would never say or imply that innocent people should die; I merely am saying that perhaps our efforts are misguided, and that these people have something going on that's far deeper than can be fixed with education or funding. Maybe they need a long period of time where they evolve at their own pace into what their culture deems an appropriate solution.

[RodThePlod]

Yeah, I posted that earlier - I want the proper matte anodised finish. But RED, not that trendy pinkish colour that's going around at the moment. Proper, primary RED.

I've got a special edition (RED) Motorola SLVR that you can see here: http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/red/

It appears to be made of the same anodised aluminium of the nanos and looks way cool. I love the way it looks - and yes, it's more of a burgundy that primary red. The darker colour grows on you, though - it's not garish but rather just understated.

Everyone comments on it - and it actually feels good to say that a percentage of my calls/text charges goes toward a worthwhile cause every month.

:)

[MattyMac]

100% confirmed.

via Chicago Tribune:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5016/25865863uz2.jpg


Nice!

[g7by08believeit]

100% confirmed.

via Chicago Tribune:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5016/25865863uz2.jpg


It looks like a more "true" red to me!

Look at the upper left portion of the picture! MBP black anodized with C2D

W00t!

[bdj21ya]

100% confirmed.

via Chicago Tribune:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5016/25865863uz2.jpg

Nice! Still doesn't answer the mystery of the clickwheel color though

[rdrr]

Nice! Still doesn't answer the mystery of the clickwheel color though

My guess is that it is white since the logo and top is white. And the color does look more primary red than the deep red artist rendition.

[Tom B.]

Nice! Still doesn't answer the mystery of the clickwheel color though
I am 99% certain that it will have a white click wheel. I think white will look better than red for the clickwheel anyway.

[Willis]

It looks like a more "true" red to me!

Look at the upper left portion of the picture! MBP black anodized with C2D

W00t!

keep dreaming..... no C2D!

[Lord Blackadder]

Oprah & Bono introduce new red iPod

That just sounds cheesy. :rolleyes:

[g7by08believeit]

keep dreaming..... no C2D!


:D Made you Look :p

[mrzeve]

Blah at Bonos new hair

[jholzner]

Dude... That has to be the most racist thing I have ever read! :eek:

Evolved???? And comparing humans to natural selection of animals????

Disregarding the poster you were responding to, humans are animals and are the result of natural selection just as much as any other species on the planet. Funny how the intro of a red iPod has led to me posting this.

I think the pict. of the iPod is awesome and I think they will sell well on color alone.

[BWhaler]

They might as well add a Core 2 Duo Mac Book Pro too.

Best post of the day.

My gues is that all these whiners would not even notice if you snuck in at night and swapped out ther procesor for a C2D chip. They'd just wake up the next moring fire up the computer and never even notice.

It's like those audiophiles who argue endlessly about if gold plated or silver plated speaker wire sounds better.

Worst & dumbest post of the day.

[glowingstar]

yep...it's right there on the front page of www.chicagotribune.com (http://www.chicagotribune.com)

none of these ipods on ebay yet, though. ;)

[Chopper9]

Why do they always use the smaller sized iPods for the special editions?

I wanted the U2 iPod, but it was not the 60 gig.

I would like a red iPod, but want the 8 gig!

USE THE BEST MODEL... ESPECIALLY SINCE ITS GOING TO CHARITY!!!!!!!

[swingerofbirch]

As much as I love rumors approximating nearer and nearer some state of acuity, actually seeing the product a day ahead is a tad disspaointing. It reminds me of the late night when Time Canada unveiled the G4 iMac. Well it'll still be fun to watch me Opie tomorrow, especially since she's promoting iPods over the Dell Ditty she did a couple years back.

[iLunar]

Why do they always use the smaller sized iPods for the special editions?

I wanted the U2 iPod, but it was not the 60 gig.

I would like a red iPod, but want the 8 gig!

USE THE BEST MODEL... ESPECIALLY SINCE ITS GOING TO CHARITY!!!!!!!

I think its probably an issue of volume. The smaller sizes sell more. Just a guess, I don't have actual numbers.

[Agent Smith]

Please read the entire post, think about it, and then respond.

I never said we should allow anyone to die - I said the exact opposite... that it is our job to be compassionate and to try and help in any way we can. My point was that there are certain aspects of the culture in African society which have bene ingrained in their way of live far longer than any western culture has even been in existence. So to think we can change that with any amount of money or education is naive.

We can and should try to save lives, and that is always a good thing. The African people are human beings, no better or worse than Americans or Brits or any other culture, color, or country. But at the end of the day, it comes down to the age-old question of whether it's our job, responsibility, or even our right to impose our culture and belief system on another. I'm merely saying that these people have chosen to develop their culture in a certain way, and perhaps they need something other than our system of education to change that. They need time... and unfortunately with that time will come deaths. I would never say or imply that innocent people should die; I merely am saying that perhaps our efforts are misguided, and that these people have something going on that's far deeper than can be fixed with education or funding. Maybe they need a long period of time where they evolve at their own pace into what their culture deems an appropriate solution.

The problem that people are having with your line of thinking is that it was used in the mid to late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries to essentially justify the "superiority" of Europe and Europeans over the rest of the world. It was called Social Darwinism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_darwinism)...

A variation of your argument was also used to justify African slavery, as well as the sterilization of Jewish people in 1930s Germany. It was, and still is, a very dangerous line of thinking, so I would not be surprised by the reaction that you are receiving.

[Agent Smith]

Blah at Bonos new hair

Hehe...yeah. PopMart called...they want their hair back. :p

[amin]

I predict that Oprah will gift one to each member of her audience.

[Chundles]

Apparently Sting is to be involved in the launch of the brown Zune. 5% will go to fight diarrhoea in Africa.

;)

(PS don't flame me. Diarrhoea, unlike the brown zune, is not a laughing matter.)

I thought "African Diarrhoea" was the technical name of the Zune's brown colour. You wait and see, next year we'll get a new colour from MS for the Zune - "Delhi Belly Explosion" a sort of greenish-brownish-orange...

Ah dysentery... it's funny on so many levels. ;)

[g7by08believeit]

I second this prediction

I don't really feel like reading the article from the Chicago Tribune again, but I believe (though, due to my lack of reading it again, I may be creating a major faux-pas) that it said that she bought ten of the red iPods... so unless she only has 10 guests, I'm doubting that EVERYONE will get one; however, I do agree that there will be some sort of giveaway.

Cheers

[BRLawyer]

This site is so wierd - 10 people actually clicked on the negative rating to this story like there is anything negative about it.

Actually there is...the RED iPod is FUGLY...sorry about that.

[-Garry-]

This will be part of the (RED) campaign.

More information over here at MySpace ... http://www.myspace.com/joinred

[Dagless]

It's a rumour don't believe its!

[timmillwood]

so its real but nothing on apple site yet.

i guess they will put it on tomorrow and the MBP too!

[extraextra]

This maaay be a stupid question, but does anyone know if these Nano's are going to be sold indefinitely, or will they be a limited product? I'm thinking more along the lines of indefinitely, but I'm not really sure.

[spicyapple]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2006-10/25865863.jpg

[Multimedia]

Give me a palate of colors to choose from and tell me which one to eleminate from my choices first. My choice would be Red. :mad: :p

[autrefois]

100% confirmed.

via Chicago Tribune:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5016/25865863uz2.jpg

Sheesh, Apple couldn't even spring for one of those audio splitters so they could each connect a pair of headphones instead of having to share?!?

:)

It's nice that Apple is giving 5% to charity. Hopefully this is the start of a trend with Apple.

[jamesi]

im so tired about apple having partnerships with groups i dont like. to each his own but why does U2 have to keep pushing their own ipod, i thought the last one sucked. give me a band i actually like

[PlaceofDis]

im so tired about apple having partnerships with groups i dont like. to each his own but why does U2 have to keep pushing their own ipod, i thought the last one sucked. give me a band i actually like

except this isn't about a band. its about a charity.

[flyakite]

Who cares what color an iPod is. Shouldn't really matter. Color does not affect funtionality. What matters is what is on the inside.
Yeah, where are all the camo colored MacBook Pro's and magenta Mac Pro towers huh? Come on Apple! :p

[puckhead193]

from the pictures it looks gotta check it out in person though

[iMeowbot]

Some strange arguments come up whenever this Red business is mentioned. Follow the link for information on what this is really about.

http://www.theglobalfund.org/en/

They act as a clearing house, kind of like the United Way in the US. Programs are run by other groups.

Most of the money is earmarked for tuberculosis and malaria, less than half is spent on HIV-related programs.

Spending is not restricted to women and children. Programs are evaluated for their ability to work against discriminatory effects, and in many parts of the world that will mean that men need less help.

This is not only for some countries in Africa. Funds are sent to all but the richest parts of the world.

[dornoforpyros]

haha, those store employees don't look to impressed. I imagine it's a "shut up and keep quite" moment while the celebs are taping. ;)

[bluedevil14]

i cant possibly phantom why ANYBODY would possible rate this negative. Its a new iPod (in my favorite color) thats the same price and has the same specs as the original, and money goes towards AIDS. :) If you dont like the color dont get it. If you think more money should go toward AIDS then ten dollars, the do something about it and donate money out of your own pocket.
That is all.

[mac-er]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2006-10/25865863.jpg


Is that Omarosa helping Oprah and Bono?

[runninmac]

Dang they look good! I think the red is going to be a great hit especially in the high school crowd. Now if only I could justify one of these :)

[jamesi]

except this isn't about a band. its about a charity.

same deal to me, its a publicity stunt

[peas]

well here's the kicker for the fools who fall for these gimmicks.
you can donate directly and it's a tax write off as a charitable contribution.
or, you can buy the same boring lollipop, in 10 different colors, and see this 5% go towards the charity which apple will gladly pony up as it will benefit them after their returns and reports are done.

so i gotta ask, why bother justifying your purchase as "good will"?
why not just call a spade a spade and say...durr durr durrr?

[absurdio]

Ultimately: who cares?
Bono still sucks, U2 has always sucked, and, much as i like a) the color of the new iPod and b) fighting AIDS, Apple's weird extended relationship with Bono makes very little sense to me.

P.S. Damn, Bono sucks.

[Neuroguy]

Screw this "Red ipod" and all the "do-gooder" photo ops.

Bring us a Merom Mac Book Pro!!!

Neuroguy

[thedbp]

Valentine's Day.

A red iPod will make a KILLING for Valentine's Day.

Eat it up, capitalists!

[thedbp]

Ultimately: who cares?
Bono still sucks, U2 has always sucked, and, much as i like a) the color of the new iPod and b) fighting AIDS, Apple's weird extended relationship with Bono makes very little sense to me.

P.S. Damn, Bono sucks.
Yes, I'm sure you came to that conclusion after spending countless hours with the man, learning about him, talking with him, and generally getting to know him on a human-to-human level.

Cuz, if you're just saying that he sucks as a person without having done that, it would mean you're a very sad and judgmental person who should spend much less time worrying about celebrities.

So its a good thing you got to know him before you said that, otherwise it is you who would suck.

[iJawn108]

Meh I want the black nano to match my macbook, not a red one. :\

[izzle22]

Ultimately: who cares?
Bono still sucks, U2 has always sucked, and, much as i like a) the color of the new iPod and b) fighting AIDS, Apple's weird extended relationship with Bono makes very little sense to me.

P.S. Damn, Bono sucks.



Bono has done more good to the world musicly and giving wise than most muscians.

[Katharine]

Yahoo has an article about the Red iPod and the whole charity project.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061013/ap_on_en_tv/winfrey_bono

It also looks like there will be a $25 Red Itunes Gift card.

[thedbp]

well here's the kicker for the fools who fall for these gimmicks.
you can donate directly and it's a tax write off as a charitable contribution.
or, you can buy the same boring lollipop, in 10 different colors, and see this 5% go towards the charity which apple will gladly pony up as it will benefit them after their returns and reports are done.

so i gotta ask, why bother justifying your purchase as "good will"?
why not just call a spade a spade and say...durr durr durrr?
Because in America, philanthropy is an afterthought to consumerism.

Where have you been since 1945? You gotta keep up with the Joneses. Now can out-Jones them by saying you CARE. In addition to having purchased the latest hot toy, of course.

[izzle22]

Yes, I'm sure you came to that conclusion after spending countless hours with the man, learning about him, talking with him, and generally getting to know him on a human-to-human level.

Cuz, if you're just saying that he sucks as a person without having done that, it would mean you're a very sad and judgmental person who should spend much less time worrying about celebrities.

So its a good thing you got to know him before you said that, otherwise it is you who would suck.



Amen

[iJawn108]

They should have come out with red Core 2 Duo MacBook Pros, now those would be hot items.:p

[joshwest]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2006-10/25865863.jpg


love the chicago store been there a few times

[izzle22]

Ultimately: who cares?
Bono still sucks, U2 has always sucked, and, much as i like a) the color of the new iPod and b) fighting AIDS, Apple's weird extended relationship with Bono makes very little sense to me.

P.S. Damn, Bono sucks.


By the way what kind of music do you like? New Kids On The Block?

[TheSailerMan]

I was wondering when this was going to happen. I'm glad it finally has, though the news has been a bit abrupt, especially for an Apple product.

As much as I like U2's music and how much I'd love to donate money to cure/treat AIDS, I won't be buying one of these.

I like the blue nano too much to buy a red one just because $10 goes to charity, plus... I've been told that red "isn't my color." Seriously.

This morning I was wearing a solid red t-shirt, kind of like the red that the nano is, and my mom told me to change my shirt. There's nothing wrong with the shirt, there's no profane graphics on it (actually, no graphics at all) and it wasn't wrinkled, she just told me that red "isn't my color" (even though she's the one that bought me the shirt)!

Hmmm.... does anyone think this will get Greenpeace off Apple's back?:D
Eh... probably not.:rolleyes:

[MattyMac]

The red is looking very nice in that Photo! Hopefully I'm not tempted.

[Analog Kid]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2006-10/25865863.jpg
This is why I would make such horrible paparazzi... I don't recognize either one of them in that picture. I'd walk into the Apple store and be elbowing them both aside trying to get a look at the gadgets on the counter. That is until I got drawn and quartered by their two entourages pulling me in different directions arguing over who got to teach me a little respect first...

[n-abounds]

I'm gonna have to see it in person first. Although, my birthday is coming up soon.

[mac-er]

well here's the kicker for the fools who fall for these gimmicks.
you can donate directly and it's a tax write off as a charitable contribution.
or, you can buy the same boring lollipop, in 10 different colors, and see this 5% go towards the charity which apple will gladly pony up as it will benefit them after their returns and reports are done.

so i gotta ask, why bother justifying your purchase as "good will"?
why not just call a spade a spade and say...durr durr durrr?

Or, perhaps, if you were going to buy an iPod anyway....some of your money goes to a good cause instead of all going to Apple?

[ezekielrage_99]

I wont buy one because Bono the big hypocrit and Oprah the Evil Overload of the Airwaves are endorsing them........

It kind of takes the "cool" factor out of having a red one.

[1984]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2006-10/25865863.jpg

I haven't been to an Apple Store in ages so forgive me for asking but what kind of dock is that in the lower right? I'm sure it is a display designed only for the stores but is it actually a working dock as well?

[Archmagination]

I think the clintob poster who is talking about Africa's problem just isn't explaining himself very well. U2 African AIDS charity is good, but it won't come near to solving the problems of Africa and it isn't just because it won't produce enough money, but it will mainly be because it wont be able to change Africa's culture.

Africa is the most backwards continent in the world.. it has for the most part retained its history and culture.. stubbornly refusing to evolve their history and culture to follow the rest of the world into the 20th and 21st century. Now Africa is paying the price with massive poverty, civil wars and the AIDS epidemic. Its Africa's culture that is causing the AIDS epidemic.. to stop the spread of AIDS in Africa you must destroy Africa's culture.. clintob is saying that those who follow Africa's culture and refuse to change will die and should die because they refused to evolve.

For instance I read an TIME article where a popular 'cure' in a African country for AIDS was for the man to have sex with a VIRGIN!! Even though certified doctor's were running around all the villages in this country saying that it wasn't a cure that they would only spread the disease. Nobody listened to the doctors.. Why you may ask.. because the shamans said that the doctors were quacks and that the cure was to sleep with a virgin. Needless to say last time I checked that country had over 50% of its people with AIDS. I think they said 75% or so.

[iMikeT]

I have to pay an extra $10 and that goes where?

[someguy]

I have to pay an extra $10 and that goes where?
First of all, you don't have to do anything.

Second, have you been reading this thread at all?

[swingerofbirch]

I have to pay an extra $10 and that goes where?

The extra $10 comes out of the $50/month wages of the iPod oompa loompa workers in China and goes to African AIDS relief.

It makes it so much more convenient for the Chinese to donate directly in this way.

[babyj]

I really can't believe some of the posts that have been made here.

To suggest that the people of Africa deserve to be wiped out by aids as they haven't evolved or kept up with the rest of the world is beyond contempt. I want to say something else but I'm just totally lost for words by your comments.

I notice no one has commented on the Pope and the Catholic Church forbidding the use of condoms and the effect that has on spreading infection even further.

Forget about the donation that will be made for every sale. Far more important is the number of people that will be educated on life in third world countries as a result of the promotion. We could do with a lot more companies running similar initiatives.

Its a bit sad that people are more interested in a new nano, or a core duo 2 macbook than they are in all the people that die every second of every day. Deaths that the western world could do something about but chooses not to. I for one am ashamed that we do so little to help so many people that suffer so much.

[Warbrain]

All I can say is this...

I would buy a red iPod regardless of if the money went to a good cause. I think red would look sexy as ****.

[Cybix]

I haven't been to an Apple Store in ages so forgive me for asking but what kind of dock is that in the lower right? I'm sure it is a display designed only for the stores but is it actually a working dock as well?

interesting.

definately a cool dock!

[archurban]

well, take a look at this video. new red nano looks exactly the same like other 2nd nano. but it's red. click wheel is white. now, it answers what you guys are curious about it.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/local_story_285181627.html

[chuckles:)]

i think it looks cool.

[jjgb]

Just uploaded a photo I took today of the 5th Av. Apple Store red logo. Check it out here: Red logo @ Apple Store 5th Av. (http://jj.gbtopia.com/blog/2006/10/12/red-logo-ny-apple-store-5th-av/)

[kgarchar]

i'd buy it!

[scott523]

From looking at the picture, should it be a fact that the red iPod nano is coming out? It doesn't look like a rumor that I see red iPod nanos on display.

[kurtsayin]

Ultimately: who cares?
Bono still sucks, U2 has always sucked, and, much as i like a) the color of the new iPod and b) fighting AIDS, Apple's weird extended relationship with Bono makes very little sense to me.

P.S. Damn, Bono sucks.


HAHAHAHAHAHA! Yes!! I keep asking myself why the hell there is so much Bono/U2 stuff... What if I wanted a "Gordon Lightfoot Edition iPod"?

[MattDell]

Not sure if it's already been pointed out, but GAP is also releasing a Red line of clothes tomorrow to support AIDS in Africa. I wonder if Oprah will be visiting various retail stores supporting the Red thing tomorrow.

I really want the Red SLVR phone, but it's not sold here.

-Matt

[kurtsayin]

Education to teach how to prevent the spread of AIDS costs money too.


Agreed

[kurtsayin]

It makes me so happy to know that there are still plenty of stupid people in the world.

Thank you


LOL me too! What is so stupid about solving the problem with total success following my logic? Just because people are not going to follow my advice, does not mean that is somehow sophomoric.

[edcrosay]

I'm glad this isn't in an 8gb variety... because I will definatly start to regret the purchase of my black one.

[darwen]

I am sure this has been said but I wanted to get my post in...

Looks cool, just hope the $10 donation does not mean it will cost more. Red is not THAT great.

[Ja Di ksw]

From looking at the picture, should it be a fact that the red iPod nano is coming out? It doesn't look like a rumor that I see red iPod nanos on display.

It's fact, not rumor. One of my friends was there while they were doing stuff with it, and the picture is obviously not photoshopped. They talked about it on CBS as well.

[clintob]

I really can't believe some of the posts that have been made here.

To suggest that the people of Africa deserve to be wiped out by aids as they haven't evolved or kept up with the rest of the world is beyond contempt. I want to say something else but I'm just totally lost for words by your comments.

Yet another person who apparently either does not know how to read, or chooses to only read a portion of a discussion...

Nobody in their right mind would ever say that anyone deserves to be wiped out by a disease because their lifestyle and culture are different. That's a completely asinine and foolish line of reasoning. If you read closely, you'd see that the discussion was over (1) whether it is our place to impose our will, our culture, and our system of education on a society that has opposed that very idea all along, and (2) whether that imposition, if it were even possible, would solve the problem, or if the problem is instead more deeply rooted in that culture as a whole and is beyond repair by education and contraception.

It's a perfectly valid, intelligent, and reasonable discussion. It has nothing to do with approving of genocide or allowing the spread of disease. It's far more important than that.

I notice no one has commented on the Pope and the Catholic Church forbidding the use of condoms and the effect that has on spreading infection even further.

Oh boy... the Catholic Church is WAY too easy of a target. We should probably leave that one alone.

[Ha ze]

Not sure if it's already been pointed out, but GAP is also releasing a Red line of clothes tomorrow to support AIDS in Africa. I wonder if Oprah will be visiting various retail stores supporting the Red thing tomorrow.

I really want the Red SLVR phone, but it's not sold here.

-Matt


Here in Chicago, The Gap and The Apple store are a block from each other on Michigan Ave. where they taped. I also believe they went across the street to the newly opened Motorola Store to the new stuff there.

I am sure this has been said but I wanted to get my post in...

Looks cool, just hope the $10 donation does not mean it will cost more. Red is not THAT great.

No, it'll be the same 199 cause another $10 and whoa... way over price for charity

[Macnoviz]

Look at the Story on the front page of the chicago tribune, it's true. It says right there that apple is introducing a Red iPod Nano, it's not photoshoped you goofs.

I hope you noticed the :D , because I do know that wasn't photoshopped

[Macnoviz]

Oh boy... the Catholic Church is WAY too easy of a target. We should probably leave that one alone.

I hope you people realise that not all people in the catholic church think about condoms and such the way the Vatican does.

I am a seminarian (priest in training so to speak) and do not think condoms should be forbidden.

Don't forget that the Catholic church is very open, as in the Evolution theory, Big Bang, not taking the bible as a science or history book.

Furhtermore, the pope has an iPod nano, and he saaid computer technology is the future.

[laidbackliam]

It's like those audiophiles who argue endlessly about if gold plated or silver plated speaker wire sounds better.

true, but there is a parralel could be drawn between audiophiles and mac "zealots".


and its fiber optic vs copper plated. its the rca connectors taht would be gold or silver plated, and yes, gold sounds better, transfers signal better.


my two cents :)

[bdj21ya]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2006-10/25865863.jpg

Doesn't anyone else think they're sending kind of a mixed message here? Both of them listening to music with an unprotected iPod? Somebody roll a nano tube sock onto that thing!

[teme]

I think the red color is so much better than the other current Nano colors (pink, blue, green). It looks great... if they release a red MacBook, I might buy it. I don't need a red Nano right now.

[GuyV]

well here's the kicker for the fools who fall for these gimmicks.
you can donate directly and it's a tax write off as a charitable contribution.
or, you can buy the same boring lollipop, in 10 different colors, and see this 5% go towards the charity which apple will gladly pony up as it will benefit them after their returns and reports are done.

so i gotta ask, why bother justifying your purchase as "good will"?
why not just call a spade a spade and say...durr durr durrr?

I agree, this thing is not about doing something good, it's about buying a gimmick that says to everyone "I gave to charity" while in reality you were not spending one dime more than you would have spent on the gimmick that you wanted to buy anyway. What kind of ***** is this where you just want to show around that you're a good person while in reality you couldn't get your thumbs out of your butt to donate anything at all, not even 10 bucks. It's called VANITY, not Charity. Write a small check for crying out loud if you want to do something, it's even deductable, and attach the receipt to your favourite shirt so everyone can see if you feel so strongly about it.

This ipod thingy is about you feeling good, not about much else. To you it feels like a 200 Dollar donation, also might help you to convince yourself to buy yet another gadget..pardon me, do some charity for africa, apple's sales go up a bit, they'll make a little less money on the ipod, 10 bucks (which may however be deductable, I don't know) but basically will benefit from it too because they sold a couple more at a slightly lower but still pretty good profit margin. Sure, some bucks go to Africa but let's be honest here: Apple makes more money, the consumer gets to wear a stylish gimmick with good-person-tag at no extra charge... now that's some serious altruism there.

Hooray to those that, the next time they will be confronted with some reporting on Aids in Africa, will be able to caress that small, hard bulge in their pocket (red iPod!), touching it and whispering "I did my share to solve the problem".

[aaronfzr]

wow, just as I figured buying a shiny new ipod wasn't totally necessary, they bring out a charity ipod.

well, if its in the name of a good cause, and will help wipe out aids and poverty, I guess its my moral obligation to buy a shiny new toy :)

[Celticsun]

It amazes me how people can't miss an oportunity to slam Apple, U2 and anyone else related.

All I see here is at least somebody somewhere is trying a different angle to help others... is that such a bad thing?

Why not capitalise on a bandwagon product such as the iPod in order to fund something positive?

And those who say yeah yeah donate money directly and get the tax waiver on the donation.. brilliant a great idea but isn't that something that already happens and will continue to happen with or without the iPod.

Oh and how much have those who raised this point donated to this cause?

I really do struggle sometimes to understand some of the sanctimonious comments around here.

All I can say is, kudos to Bono, Apple and anyone else doing anything they can to help people in need.... its more than most of us.



**soap box for sale all profits to a good cause** :p

[Chundles]

I agree, this thing is not about doing something good, it's about buying a gimmick that says to everyone "I gave to charity" while in reality you were not spending one dime more than you would have spent on the gimmick that you wanted to buy anyway. What kind of ***** is this where you just want to show around that you're a good person while in reality you couldn't get your thumbs out of your butt to donate anything at all, not even 10 bucks. It's called VANITY, not Charity. Write a small check for crying out loud if you want to do something, it's even deductable, and attach the receipt to your favourite shirt so everyone can see if you feel so strongly about it.

This ipod thingy is about you feeling good, not about much else. To you it feels like a 200 Dollar donation, also might help you to convince yourself to buy yet another gadget..pardon me, do some charity for africa, apple's sales go up a bit, they'll make a little less money on the ipod, 10 bucks (which may however be deductable, I don't know) but basically will benefit from it too because they sold a couple more at a slightly lower but still pretty good profit margin. Sure, some bucks go to Africa but let's be honest here: Apple makes more money, the consumer gets to wear a stylish gimmick with good-person-tag at no extra charge... now that's some serious altruism there.

Hooray to those that, the next time they will be confronted with some reporting on Aids in Africa, will be able to caress that small, hard bulge in their pocket (red iPod!), touching it and whispering "I did my share to solve the problem".

Who cares if it's vanity? I'd rather somebody buy a Red iPod and feel good about themselves, be able to brag to their friends and show off to the community than for the same person to otherwise do nothing.

As long as it's legal I'm pretty sure the folks in charge of the aid money don't care where the money's coming from. I don't think the AIDS sufferers in Africa give a rat's arse that the money that helps their problems comes from rampant western consumerism - they're just happy to have some help.

I think it's a good idea.

[AdeFowler]

It amazes me how people can't miss an oportunity to slam Apple, U2 and anyone else related.

All I see here is at least somebody somewhere is trying a different angle to help others... is that such a bad thing?

Why not capitalise on a bandwagon product such as the iPod in order to fund something positive?

And those who say yeah yeah donate money directly and get the tax waiver on the donation.. brilliant a great idea but isn't that something that already happens and will continue to happen with or without the iPod.

Oh and how much have those who raised this point donated to this cause?

I really do struggle sometimes to understand some of the sanctimonious comments around here.

All I can say is, kudos to Bono, Apple and anyone else doing anything they can to help people in need.... its more than most of us.
Wish I'd said all that. Great post.