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MrMacMan
Mar 10, 2003, 04:04 PM
This will certainly stop the 'same questions' from re-appearing. Thanks man. :D

But you need to be more aggresive.
'If you really want to help us out get all the computers you can to start folding!' & 'We appreciate every WU you send to us and please SEND MORE!'
:D



Mr. Anderson
Mar 10, 2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
This will certainly stop the 'same questions' from re-appearing. Thanks man. :D


Ha, probably not, but at least we don't have to keep repeating things, we'll just have to point them to this thread and if they have any more questions, well, PM rowerCPU ;)

Good job there rower!

D

Rower_CPU
Mar 10, 2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by dukestreet
Ha, probably not, but at least we don't have to keep repeating things, we'll just have to point them to this thread and if they have any more questions, well, PM rowerCPU ;)

Good job there rower!

D

Couldn't have done it w/out mc68k's and your help, duke. :)

Mr. Anderson
Mar 10, 2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Couldn't have done it w/out mc68k's and your help, duke. :)

Well, aside from being a memeber on the team destined to get a few points (my 4 machines will do me well) - all I did was make it a sticky. :D

I did notice that a lot of memebers have stopped contributing. It unfortunate that....

D

Rower_CPU
Mar 10, 2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by dukestreet
Well, aside from being a memeber on the team destined to get a few points (my 4 machines will do me well) - all I did was make it a sticky. :D

I did notice that a lot of memebers have stopped contributing. It unfortunate that....

D

The stickyness is appreciated.:)

Yes. Inactive members are one of our best untapped resources. They've done it before. We just need to convince them to do it again.

rainman::|:|
Mar 10, 2003, 07:07 PM
here's a question that's not on there... i just realized that i could leave it folding constantly, not just at night with the console version (i thought it was too much of a CPU hog to be used with other apps)... but at night, to keep it awake, i'd like to have the screensaver kick in. is there any way to run them both, like use the console version during the day and have the screensaver work on the WU at night?

probably not huh :(

ah well, i could always blank screen...

pnw

eyelikeart
Mar 10, 2003, 07:26 PM
this is a lot of help...

thanks duke & rower...I'm glad to be helping out now... ;)

Mr. Anderson
Mar 10, 2003, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
this is a lot of help...

thanks duke & rower...I'm glad to be helping out now... ;)

so how many attempts at downloading the first WU did it take?

D

eyelikeart
Mar 10, 2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by dukestreet
so how many attempts at downloading the first WU did it take?


I walked away from it at try #6...but later on when I came back it was able to grab it at #9...

heh...6...9.... :D

MrMacMan
Mar 10, 2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
I walked away from it at try #6...but later on when I came back it was able to grab it at #9...

heh...6...9.... :D

Cheezy humor alert: Code - Lame

eyelikeart
Mar 10, 2003, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Cheezy humor alert: Code - Lame

hey...I'm allowed a really bad joke every once in a while... ;)

mc68k
Mar 11, 2003, 01:02 AM
thanks duke for stickiness, and rower for the well-written FAQ.

...and ppl who read this FAQ b4 asking questions from it. we tried to make it very general, so don't be afraid to post any questions not covered here.

jethroted
Mar 11, 2003, 10:46 AM
If you have hyper threading can you run two clients? Is there anyway to take advantage of HT?

MrMacMan
Mar 11, 2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
hey...I'm allowed a really bad joke every once in a while... ;)

Okay I'll give you that.

eyelikeart
Mar 11, 2003, 06:53 PM
good deal on letting 'em know the text file isn't accurate...

I'm still a bit lost as to why I'm showing nothing so far...although I did put my system to sleep this morning (I forgot!) :rolleyes:

Rower_CPU
Mar 11, 2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
good deal on letting 'em know the text file isn't accurate...

I'm still a bit lost as to why I'm showing nothing so far...although I did put my system to sleep this morning (I forgot!) :rolleyes:

Exactly. The logfile is the one you should go by.

alset
Mar 22, 2003, 03:56 AM
Answered all the questions I wasn't asking. Thanks!

Dan

RandomDeadHead
Mar 22, 2003, 05:48 AM
How long does it usualy take to complete a unit? I am trying it out on a 700 mhz g4 iMac at home, and have been running it for 20 hours a day, for 4 days, and I only have 65% done. Is this normal?


If all goes well with it, I plan to run it on all my Macs at work. That would have me running it on 7 procs, 14 hours a day, 24 hours on the weekends.

MrMacMan
Mar 22, 2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by RandomDeadHead
How long does it usualy take to complete a unit? I am trying it out on a 700 mhz g4 iMac at home, and have been running it for 20 hours a day, for 4 days, and I only have 65% done. Is this normal?


If all goes well with it, I plan to run it on all my Macs at work. That would have me running it on 7 procs, 14 hours a day, 24 hours on the weekends.
Nice for 7 proccessorr, too bad only 14 hours weekdays, oh well.
For my iMac 800 the smaller units take about 3 days, you might have gotten a larger unit.
You would normally go to this link to see how big a WU you are crunching, but currently it is down. (http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html)

Mr. Anderson
Mar 22, 2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by RandomDeadHead
How long does it usualy take to complete a unit? I am trying it out on a 700 mhz g4 iMac at home, and have been running it for 20 hours a day, for 4 days, and I only have 65% done. Is this normal?


If all goes well with it, I plan to run it on all my Macs at work. That would have me running it on 7 procs, 14 hours a day, 24 hours on the weekends.

If you set it up correctly, you don't have to worry about when folding@home is running. I've got it going 100% of the time, yet it only actually runs when there is processor time available. Even if you're on the machine working during the day, you're not using all the processing power. And it won't interfer with the other apps.

D

RandomDeadHead
Mar 22, 2003, 04:24 PM
Like I said, right now I am just checking it out. If all goes well, I will check it out on my machines at the office, on a limited time basis.(14 hours a day) IF that goes well I will run it 24-7.

I just want to make shure that it plays well with my machines before I commit to it. I want to make shure my Macs are happy with doing it since THEY are the bread winners in my family.

AmbitiousLemon
Mar 22, 2003, 04:50 PM
wow. mrmacman, i hadnt seen that link before. the work unit im crunching has a deadline fo 50 days! i better get some serious points for this bitch.

MrMacMan
Mar 22, 2003, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
wow. mrmacman, i hadnt seen that link before. the work unit im crunching has a deadline fo 50 days! i better get some serious points for this bitch.
Was that sarcasm I detect?
I suppose you are crunching a 73 pointer. Good luck. :D

AmbitiousLemon
Mar 22, 2003, 10:26 PM
no sarcasm. i actually hadnt seen the deadline page.

ive been running the graphical client as a background app (so it doesnt clutter up my dock) so i dont really notice it at all. wish i still had access to the machines in our lab, but we actually need them for real work.

alset
Mar 22, 2003, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
no sarcasm. i actually hadnt seen the deadline page.

ive been running the graphical client as a background app (so it doesnt clutter up my dock) so i dont really notice it at all. wish i still had access to the machines in our lab, but we actually need them for real work.

If they are running X you can use them without getting in the way. I installed on machines in the labs at my school, this weekend. Nobody will ever notice.

Dan

MrMacMan
Mar 23, 2003, 12:18 AM
Unless they know how to look at process viewer or the 'top' command.

But what are they going to care, it uses up the CPU when no one else it running something, OH NO!

AmbitiousLemon
Mar 23, 2003, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by alset
If they are running X you can use them without getting in the way. I installed on machines in the labs at my school, this weekend. Nobody will ever notice.

Dan

i dont think you understand. this is a laboratory. the computers are clustered and spend months working together crunching data.

eyelikeart
Mar 23, 2003, 11:30 AM
so I'm trying to figure out...

how long will it take before I start showing up in the rankings?

Rower_CPU
Mar 23, 2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
so I'm trying to figure out...

how long will it take before I start showing up in the rankings?

Once you complete your first WU, it takes some time for yout to show up on the stats websites.

Have you finished one yet?

eyelikeart
Mar 23, 2003, 03:09 PM
I know it's finished the first set of frames...

where exactly does it tell me how many WU's I've completed in the text file?

Rower_CPU
Mar 23, 2003, 03:15 PM
Take a look at FAHlog.txt and search for lines that look like this:
+ Attempting to send results
[02:27:44] + Results successfully sent
[02:27:44] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@home.
[02:27:44] + Number of Units Completed: 22

eyelikeart
Mar 23, 2003, 03:18 PM
apparently I'm still on my first WU then... :(

Rower_CPU
Mar 23, 2003, 03:21 PM
How many frames have you completed out of the total for the WU?

eyelikeart
Mar 23, 2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
How many frames have you completed out of the total for the WU?

the logfile_01.txt is showing finished a frame (99) for the last...

Over Achiever
Mar 23, 2003, 04:24 PM
Ok, first time running folding on a mac. I'm using the console version, and am wondering certain things:

How do I pause the program? How do I quit it? Does quitting it corrupt the protein? How fast do you think a 1 GHz G4 (17" powerbook) will crunch? :D

mc68k
Mar 23, 2003, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Over Achiever
How do I pause the program? How do I quit it? Does quitting it corrupt the protein? How fast do you think a 1 GHz G4 (17" powerbook) will crunch? :D kill -STOP <PID>
kill -CONT <PID>
kill <PID>

to find PID use top. to quit top use the keystroke q. look for the processes called FahCore_65 and OSX-3.24.

to terminate folding, just kill OSX-3.24
to pause folding, just kill -STOP/CONT FahCore_65

folding saves the last completed unit to ur HDD, so if u kill it'll just start at the next frame after the last completed one saved to HDD. i do it all the time.

my DP script automates killing processes, my SP script soon to do the same...

1GHz PB would crunch fast, but it would heat it up a lot...your call.

eyelikeart
Mar 29, 2003, 11:39 AM
so how does it work with your progress being sent out to log u with the team's stats?

Rower_CPU
Mar 29, 2003, 11:48 AM
Once you send in a WU it takes a little while to show up in the progress server.

I'm not sure we've ever tried to time it...

eyelikeart
Mar 29, 2003, 12:28 PM
but when do I do it?

once a WU is completed?

Rower_CPU
Mar 29, 2003, 12:49 PM
You don't have to do anything. You should show up automatically in the servers.

mc68k
Mar 29, 2003, 12:52 PM
go here:

http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/searchstats

and type in eyelikeart [or whatever name you used]. it's updated hourly.

howard
Mar 29, 2003, 01:43 PM
hey mc68k, i've got a question about your single processor script.

i've been folding with the terminal and this is how i've got it set up...the os x 3.24 file renamed to (fold) is in my applications folder and when i want to run it i just cd to that folder and type ./fold.

now i wanted to use your script and i set it up but it seems to download a new protein...633 instead of the 643 i was working on. is there some way for it to pick up off my old data or does it start fresh?

thanks

scem0
Apr 1, 2003, 11:15 PM
I just signed up. Just a heads up, btw, my username is scem0 :D.

Rower_CPU
Apr 2, 2003, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by scem0
I just signed up. Just a heads up, btw, my username is scem0 :D.

Nice! Welcome to the team. :)

scem0
Apr 2, 2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Nice! Welcome to the team. :)

Thanks! I am already climbing the ranks! :D;)

eyelikeart
Apr 2, 2003, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by scem0
Thanks! I am already climbing the ranks! :D;)

I cannot wait to show up...

I've made a lot of progress in the last 2 weeks on 3 processors... ;)

Rower_CPU
Apr 3, 2003, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
I cannot wait to show up...

I've made a lot of progress in the last 2 weeks on 3 processors... ;)

OK, silly question here:
What's your username and team number you signed up with?

You should have shown up by now...:confused:

eyelikeart
Apr 3, 2003, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
OK, silly question here:
What's your username and team number you signed up with?

my name is "eyelikeart" (who'd have guessed?) and the team # is 3446...

I'm up to WU 2 on each machine... ;)

eyelikeart
Apr 3, 2003, 12:05 PM
so the info is correct, eh?

I'm still waiting... ;)

Rower_CPU
Apr 3, 2003, 12:22 PM
Yeah, it looks correct. It's weird that it's taking so long...

eyelikeart
Apr 3, 2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Yeah, it looks correct. It's weird that it's taking so long...

http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/userpage?name=eyelikeart :D

Rower_CPU
Apr 3, 2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
http://folding.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/userpage?name=eyelikeart :D

About damn time. :rolleyes: :p

Rower_CPU
Apr 17, 2003, 10:52 AM
I split the FAQ discussion into a separate thread to keep the info from getting "muddied".

Enjoy! :)

Stelliform
Apr 17, 2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
I split the FAQ discussion into a separate thread to keep the info from getting "muddied".

Enjoy! :)

Enjoying Flexing those moderator muscles? :D

MrMacMan
May 21, 2003, 04:42 PM
repost:
The client will do that, because once a 'frame' is completed it will show you have you have completed 1/400 (400 frames being the most used) done.
A WU should take, lets use my computer for example because I have a similar computer, but there are varibles (should be in FAQ ):
a) the 'size' of a WU -- more points see here
b) Computer speed
c) time computer is idle
More idle the computer, the faster folding will go. On average running 20/7 I average a WU 3-4 days. 70 (large) take much longer while 19.7 pointers (small) take less time.

I hope I explained that.


"

Comeon, something like that needs to be there. A short no-brain explanation.

Rower_CPU
May 21, 2003, 04:57 PM
OK, added a short explanation of processing time.

pEZ
May 21, 2003, 11:16 PM
okay, I'm not that regular of a poster on these boards, but I look at this board nearly every day - I skip a day, and there's a new thread with a full 3 pages tacked on to it already - this calls for a distributed computing chat room.

maradong
Jun 6, 2003, 06:36 AM
I got the problem that folding is just not starting when i m booting. I have to start it manually, but than it will work for good.
Would be cool if you could help me to arrange his. I will however not be able to test it before next wed .
I used the SP script of mc68k.

MrMacMan
Jun 6, 2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by maradong
I got the problem that folding is just not starting when i m booting. I have to start it manually, but than it will work for good.
Would be cool if you could help me to arrange his. I will however not be able to test it before next wed .
I used the SP script of mc68k.

I thought this was only me... :(

I see it is not.

Yeah, not sure why but when I boot it doesn't restart folding.

mc68k
Jun 7, 2003, 01:39 AM
ok ill look into this

if its just ur particular setup than i have another method where i modify the /etc/rc file with the same info

what does crontab -l output?

MrMacMan
Jun 7, 2003, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by mc68k
ok ill look into this

if its just ur particular setup than i have another method where i modify the /etc/rc file with the same info

what does crontab -l output?
As in Terminal:
[Jeremiah-Bornemanns-Computer:~] jeremiahbornemann% crontab -l
@reboot cd ~/F@H1; ./OSX-3.24 -local
Jeremiah -- Me so, my username...

Vlade
Jun 18, 2003, 12:33 PM
Can you add how to get the nifty folding sig into the FAQ? Here is the code to cut and paste

http://nuclearnova.com/folding.txt

Rower_CPU
Jun 18, 2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Vlade
Can you add how to get the nifty folding sig into the FAQ? Here is the code to cut and paste

http://nuclearnova.com/folding.txt

Good suggestion. :)

jimthorn
Jun 18, 2003, 03:12 PM
Good idea, Vlade, since nobody really noticed the thread I posted about it (except you and a few others). Whatever it takes.

bertinman
Jun 19, 2003, 06:59 AM
I like the sig script... just put as mine. :cool:

- bert

OK, n/m. I guess I missed something... thought it auto did the points.

I'll look at it again later...

bertinman
Jun 19, 2003, 08:00 AM
this is very general to all forums, but Im posting it here because I want to use it here :).

is there a way to insert text into a signature from a file?

I'd like to use a script to read in the webpage from folding user's stat page and extract the points from it and save it as a text file. Then the sig can just call this text file (on my web server) and insert the text.

I'm asuming that this is not allowed because of security and all, but the vB code seems to do quite a bit--is there a vB code way of doing this?

I threw out the idea of doing a script that outputs directly to the sig instead of a "middle-man" text file because php and html are disabled--which is a good sercurity measure.

If no text file is available... possibly a slightly more complex script could be made to make a small image of numbers? and that be inserted? I'm not quite sure what it means when the forum options at the end of the page say [IMG] tags are "off"--could have sworn I posted an image a while back.

hope this makes since :)

- bert

Rower_CPU
Jun 19, 2003, 11:39 AM
Yeah, bert, I know what you're talking about. Other forums (MacAddict, MacNN, etc.) allow images in signatures, which allows you to use a dynamically generated image with your up-to-date stats.

I don't think arn will allow that, so for now the best we can do is manually update the text in our sigs.

bertinman
Jun 20, 2003, 04:55 PM
alrighty then. it's too bad. but, nothing life threating ;).

- bert

Squire
Jul 31, 2003, 10:01 AM
Folks.

I want to help out but I think I might just be too dumb.

I downloaded this:

"SP_folding.dmg" from mc68k's .mac file sharing page. http://homepage.mac.com/mc68k/

and entered my name as "squire." What else do I have to do? I'm no computer genius but seeing as my computer is idle a lot...

Squire

Vlade
Jul 31, 2003, 10:39 AM
I heard that mac65k modified the script so it doesn't need a password, is that the current one, or do I need a special one?

mc68k
Jul 31, 2003, 11:21 AM
the script on my page is current

if u want to see if it is running, open a terminal window and type top. to quit top press q.

then look for FahCore_78 or 65. it should be taking most of your spare CPU cycles. if you want to see progress, type in work at the command prompt.

Squire
Aug 3, 2003, 08:06 PM
I want to fold. I'm trying to fold. But I'm not sure that I actually AM folding. I think I am but my name is nowhere to be found.

Here's what I've got:

User name: Squire (Team 3446)
+ Processing work unit
[00:53:42] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[00:53:42] Core found.
[00:53:42] Working on Unit 02 [August 4 00:53:42]
[00:53:42] + Working ...
Expanded 363793 -> 1768593 (decompressed 486.1 percent)
[00:54:00]
[00:54:00] Project: 341 (Run 43, Clone 28, Gen 2)
[00:54:00]
Starting from checkpoint)
[00:54:21] Protein: p341_gnra_den
[00:54:21]
[00:54:21] Writing local files
[00:54:35] Completed 21898 out of 500000 steps (4)

But when I go to the site to check my stats- I enter my name and team #3446- it says "No users were found that match your search criteria. Please widen your search and try again."

Kind of sucks. Any advice?

Squire

Vlade
Aug 3, 2003, 08:09 PM
You won't be listed until you complete your first Work Unit, and it looks like you are 4% done with it now

Squire
Aug 4, 2003, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by Vlade
You won't be listed until you complete your first Work Unit, and it looks like you are 4% done with it now

Okay. Thanks. At least it's working. Slowly but surely. I think I saw a limit of 18 days for that protein. At this rate, I won't make it.

Time for a dual G5?

Squire

Vlade
Aug 4, 2003, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Squire
I think I saw a limit of 18 days for that protein. At this rate, I won't make it.

Squire

You will still get credit regardless of how long it takes you, but stanford won't use the data.

MrMacMan
Sep 8, 2003, 10:49 PM
Several things need to be added/updated:
Statsman <--- Seems to have died randomly.

MacNN's Stats no longer allow our team to be seen, we are too far ahead.

Partial Units are now accecpted as points.

And a Link to the Banner Making thread should be there too.

:D

Plutronics
Sep 10, 2003, 02:01 AM
Quotes from Elsewhere:
"If the client is killed, rather than shut down normally, the probability of it failing to close all the files correctly is higher"
"Stanford recommends explicitly ending the client before rebooting rather than just shutting down"

I need some clarification Please :
how do you "kill the client" ,so I won't ever do it (again?)
How do you "explicitly end the client" ?
and can I assume "Shut down normally" is "Shut Down..." from the Pulldown Menu, and has the same effect as a "Restart..." ?
Thanks:confused:

Rower_CPU
Sep 10, 2003, 04:10 PM
The client will be killed by system events such as a shut down or commands from Terminal.

To ensure that you don't get the data corruption they talk about, it seems they say you should shut down the app by quitting it, rather than having it be killed by OS X when you shut down/reboot.

mactastic
Sep 10, 2003, 04:24 PM
I use Control-C to end the process.

MrMacMan
Sep 10, 2003, 04:27 PM
Rower -- Is the Partial Unit not important enough to be mentioned?

'If you unit is terminated by the client for unkown reasons Folding will recieve the unit and give you the points for your progress on that work unit'

something like that

Rower_CPU
Sep 10, 2003, 04:48 PM
I wanted to double-check first to see if it was true. Can you point me to where Stanford says this?

It's there for now...

bertinman
Sep 10, 2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
I wanted to double-check first to see if it was true. Can you point me to where Stanford says this?

It's there for now...

I put a link to the folding forum in my thread I made a while back...

where was that anyway?

http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=5245

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34882

I was getting a few .1 points for "partial" units a week or two ago--thats proof enough for me...

Plutronics
Sep 10, 2003, 07:06 PM
Rower_CPU:

First "Bruce" up from the bottom of the thread at:
http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=3820&highlight=explicitly+ending+client

One Person Uses <ctrl>c , another <ctrl>q , and "kill -STOP <PID>" by a third
One Guy Just does a Shut down. I Quit terminal then Shut down and it trashed the folding files.

Rower_CPU
Sep 10, 2003, 07:30 PM
OK, thanks. Looks like that's only for Gromacs units.

wdlove
Jan 27, 2004, 07:57 PM
Will the folding work with a graphite G4 Dual 450?

How much screen space does it take?

Rower_CPU
Jan 27, 2004, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
Will the folding work with a graphite G4 Dual 450?

How much screen space does it take?

Yes and none, if you use mc68k's installer scripts.

wdlove
Jan 27, 2004, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Yes and none, if you use mc68k's installer scripts.

So the only download that I need is the mc68k's? It sounds as though I want to use the, text console version.

I'm not a technically profecient person. It is easier for me to be prompted on what I should be doing. Does it work that way and also intuitive.

Does this run automaticaly or do you have to open a program each time like you do any other program.

I hope you won't think that I'm too much of a pain. But this way is easier for me!

Thank you Rower! :)

Rower_CPU
Jan 27, 2004, 08:18 PM
The script prompts you along and gives you the option to have folding run all the time, even after a reboot.

I'd recommend the singe processor install (http://calnet.sdsu.edu/mc68k/SP_Folding.dmg). There is a readme file inside that tells you more about what the script does.

Your welcome, wd'. :)

wdlove
Jan 27, 2004, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
The script prompts you along and gives you the option to have folding run all the time, even after a reboot.

I'd recommend the singe processor install (http://calnet.sdsu.edu/mc68k/SP_Folding.dmg). There is a readme file inside that tells you more about what the script does.

Your welcome, wd'. :)

If I may ask, are you recommending the single processor because it is easier?

Should I have it running all the time that I have my G4 running.

An off the subject question is it OK with Panther to alternately put the G4 to sleep and shutdown?

Rower_CPU
Jan 28, 2004, 12:25 AM
Feel free to install the dual processor script if you wish, I just think the single would be a better match for your system. They are both exactly the same when it comes to setup and use.

You can run folding as much or as little as you want. If you are doing something especially processor intensive (working in iMovie or something like that) you can pause/stop it and then restart it when you're done.

Take a look at the documentation. It should answer a lot of your questions.

MrMacMan
Jan 28, 2004, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
If I may ask, are you recommending the single processor because it is easier?

Should I have it running all the time that I have my G4 running.

An off the subject question is it OK with Panther to alternately put the G4 to sleep and shutdown?
Single or Dual, depending on how many processors you have.

Its not easier or harder...


If you install the mc68k script it will be running once you install it and contiune after restarting (optional to remove it also, just easier to just say 'run on startup'

If you don't remember to turn it on like I do this feature is useful.


Puting the machine to sleep will stop the CPU from running, so folding will not be running, same with shuting down.

Putting a monitor to sleep, or shutting it off it for me.

wdlove
Jan 30, 2004, 07:35 PM
I just made an attempt to join folding. Downloaded SP_Folding.dmg & FAH4-CLI.

This is what occurred?

Last login: Fri Jan 30 20:22:31 on ttyp1
/Volumes/FAH4-CLI/fah4; exit
Welcome to Darwin!
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$ /Volumes/FAH4-CLI/fah4; exit

Note: Please read the license agreement (fah4 -license). Further
use of this software requires that you have read and accepted this agreement.



--- Opening Log file [January 31 01:26:25]


# Mac OS X Edition ############################################################
###############################################################################

Folding@home Client Version 4.00

http://folding.stanford.edu

###############################################################################
###############################################################################



[01:26:25] Configuring Folding@home...

User name [Anonymous]? wdlove
Team Number [0]? 3446 MacRumors
Invalid team number entered. Please enter only a number or just press enter.
Team Number [0]? 3446
Invalid team number entered. Please enter only a number or just press enter.
Team Number [0]? 3446
Invalid team number entered. Please enter only a number or just press enter.
Team Number [0]? 3446
Invalid team number entered. Please enter only a number or just press enter.
Team Number [0]?
Ask before fetching/sending work (no/yes) [no]? y
Use proxy (yes/no) [no]? y
Proxy Name [localhost]? MacRumors
Proxy Port [8080]?
Use username & password with proxy (yes/no)? y
Proxy Username? wdlove
Proxy Password? lovewind
Change advanced options (yes/no) [no]? n

[01:31:24] - Ask before connecting: Yes
[01:31:28] Failed to resolve hostname for proxy. Will connect directly.
[01:31:28] - Proxy: MacRumors:8080
[01:31:28] - Proxy password enabled
[01:31:28] - User name: wdlove (Team 0)
[01:31:28] - User ID not found locally
[01:31:28] + Requesting User ID from server
[01:31:28] > Press "c" to connect to the server
c[01:31:40] - Establishing connection
[01:31:40] - Machine ID: 1
[01:31:40]
[01:31:40] Work directory not found. Creating...
[01:31:40] Could not open work queue, generating new queue...
[01:31:40] + Benchmarking ...
[01:31:45] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[01:31:45] + Attempting to get work packet
[01:31:45] - Connecting to assignment server
[01:31:45] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.117).
[01:31:45] + News From Folding@Home: v.4 client available
[01:31:45] Loaded queue successfully.
[01:31:46] + Connections closed: You may now disconnect
[01:31:46]
[01:31:46] + Processing work unit
[01:31:46] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[01:31:46] Core not found.
[01:31:46] - Core is not present or corrupted.
[01:31:46] - Attempting to download new core...
[01:31:46] + Downloading new core: FahCore_78.exe
[01:31:46] > Press "c" to connect to the server
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[01:31:58] Verifying core Core_78.fah...
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[01:31:59]
[01:31:59] Trying to unzip core FahCore_78.exe
[01:32:00] Decompressed FahCore_78.exe (2497248 bytes) successfully
[01:32:00] + Core successfully engaged
[01:32:05]
[01:32:05] + Processing work unit
[01:32:05] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[01:32:05] Core found.
[01:32:05] Working on Unit 01 [January 31 01:32:05]
[01:32:05] + Working ...
[01:32:05]
[01:32:05] *------------------------------*
[01:32:05] Folding@home Gromacs Core
[01:32:05] Version 1.56 (December 23, 2003)
[01:32:05]
[01:32:05] Preparing to commence simulation
[01:32:05] - Looking at optimizations...
[01:32:05] - Created dyn
[01:32:05] - Files status OK
[01:32:05] - Expanded 23693 -> 147569 (decompressed 622.8 percent)
[01:32:06] - Starting from initial work packet
[01:32:06]
[01:32:06] Project: 734 (Run 11, Clone 9, Gen 1)
[01:32:06]
[01:32:06] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[01:32:06] Entering M.D.

Gromacs is Copyright (c) 1991-2003, University of Groningen, The Netherlands
This inclusion of Gromacs code in the Folding@Home Core is under
a special license (see http://folding.stanford.edu/gromacs.html)
specially granted to Stanford by the copyright holders. If you
are interested in using Gromacs, visit www.gromacs.org where
you can download a free version of Gromacs under
the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL) as published
by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License,
or (at your option) any later version.

[01:32:12] Protein: p734_villin_sd_h2o
[01:32:12]
[01:32:12] Writing local files
[01:32:12] Testing CPU type...
[01:32:12] Done testing.
[01:32:12] Extra AltiVec boost OK.
[01:32:16] Writing local files
[01:32:18] Completed 0 out of 5000000 steps (0)



[01:44:01] Writing local files
[01:44:03] Completed 50000 out of 5000000 steps (1)

Now what?

MrMacMan
Jan 31, 2004, 01:11 AM
Well first... you screwed up.

I don't think you need a proxy...

Second you need to delete your folding because the unit isn't going to go through.

Go to the terminal and type in 'rid'

This will delete your work... sorry has to be done.

Then redownload the script... open it...
It asks you for name type (NO SPACES) 'wdlove' hit enter.
Type '3446' hit enter
ask before sending work type 'n' hit enter
Use Proxy type 'n' hit enter
Advanced features 'n' hit enter

Then you are done.


After it downloads the core again... you are good.

After it says [01:32:18] Completed 0 out of 5000000 steps (0)
Just quit the terminal and your done.


If you need more help... PM me or get in contact with me...

wdlove
Feb 1, 2004, 03:45 PM
I tried it again today for the 3rd time, this is the result.

Last login: Sat Jan 31 19:42:29 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$ rid
-bash: rid: command not found
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$

MacFan25
Feb 1, 2004, 03:49 PM
You could always use the graphical client. It's easy to set up, and you don't have to use the terminal with it.

wdlove
Feb 1, 2004, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by MacFan25
You could always use the graphical client. It's easy to set up, and you don't have to use the terminal with it.

I have no idea about graphical client. Was trying to do as directed by RowerCPU & MrMacman. It sounds as though I need to undo my previous error. Hoping that one of them will respond to my query. It is all for the team.

What I need is someone available when something happens unexpected.

MacFan25
Feb 1, 2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
I have no idea about graphical client. Was trying to do as directed by RowerCPU & MrMacman.
I see, because you have a dual processor machine. I'm not sure if you can use the graphical client with both processors.

wdlove
Feb 1, 2004, 07:38 PM
Does this mean that I'm now a fellow member of MacRumors Folding?

Arguments: -local -configonly

[01:35:30] Configuring Folding@home...

User name [Anonymous]? wdlove
Team Number [0]? 3446
Ask before fetching/sending work (no/yes) [no]? n
Use proxy (yes/no) [no]? n
Change advanced options (yes/no) [no]? n

[01:36:07] - Ask before connecting: No
[01:36:07] - User name: wdlove (Team 3446)
[01:36:07] - User ID not found locally
[01:36:07] + Requesting User ID from server
[01:36:08] - Machine ID: 1
[01:36:08]
[01:36:08] -configonly flag given, so exiting.
/Volumes/single/.setup/script.command: line 29: 2290 Terminated ./fah4 -local -configonly
logout
[Process completed]

Last login: Sun Feb 1 20:35:00 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
/Volumes/FAH4-CLI/fah4; exit
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$ /Volumes/FAH4-CLI/fah4; exit

Note: Please read the license agreement (fah4 -license). Further
use of this software requires that you have read and accepted this agreement.



--- Opening Log file [Feburary 2 01:39:22]


# Mac OS X Edition ############################################################
###############################################################################

Folding@home Client Version 4.00

http://folding.stanford.edu

###############################################################################
###############################################################################



[01:39:22] - Ask before connecting: Yes
[01:39:25] Failed to resolve hostname for proxy. Will connect directly.
[01:39:25] - Proxy: MacRumors:8080
[01:39:25] - Proxy password enabled
[01:39:25] - User name: wdlove (Team 0)
[01:39:25] - User ID = 64B6155203B707C1
[01:39:25] - Machine ID: 1
[01:39:25]

A potential conflict was detected:

Process 2292 is currently running and may also be a client with Mach. ID 1.
Program will now exit. Upon restart, this check will not be done --
you may wish to check that no client is currently running in
/Users/wdlove/F@H1 before restarting.

logout
[Process completed]

MrMacMan
Feb 1, 2004, 10:52 PM
Yeah you didn't delete the previous folding error...

I wish there was a faster way of talking to you about this, I could do it step by step... but posting on a forum isn't very fast and its effective.

What you want to do...
Is Stop Folding, Delete Folding and Reinstall folding.

In the terminal you should type stop (nothing should appear after you do this)
Then type in rid (This will delete folding)
Now you want to find out if you Have stopped folding fron running and that is has been deleted.
Type in the terminal top If Fah_Core (with numbers after it) you have a problem... because it didn't stop running...

You also need to check If folding is still installed. Use The Find (apple + F) and type in fah. If there is nothing found you can reinstall.

And then you want to reinstall the script... as I posted above.

Then redownload the script... open it...
It asks you for name type (NO SPACES) 'wdlove' hit enter.
Type '3446' hit enter
ask before sending work type 'n' hit enter
Use Proxy type 'n' hit enter
Advanced features 'n' hit enter

Then you are done.

wdlove
Feb 2, 2004, 02:21 PM
Have I completed the task correctly MrMacman? I really appreciate your patience with me, I'm sure that it will pay off in the end.

***Do you know where I can find my favorites for IE located in OS 9, want to update it in the X?

Should I trash the folding software that I downloaded previously?

To saver time could you give me a link to what I actually need to download? Your help is greatly appreciated. It is great to have a friend. ;)

Last login: Sun Feb 1 20:39:22 on ttyp2
Welcome to Darwin!
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$ stop
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$ rid
No matching processes belonging to you were found
remove crontab for wdlove? top
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$ fah
-bash: fah: command not found
Winston\032Love\213s\032Computer:~ wdlove$

MrMacMan
Feb 2, 2004, 05:13 PM
You can trash the software you downloaded earlier...


Okay in the Find application type in fah -- NOT IN TERMINAL. FIND.

If nothing is found we are good.

Then you can install this again (http://calnet.sdsu.edu/mc68k/DP_Folding.dmg)

And follow my instructions below.

Double click the script and it will want you to enter some information.
It asks you for name type (NO SPACES) 'wdlove' hit enter.
When it asks for team number Type '3446' hit enter
When it asks before sending work type 'n' hit enter
Use Proxy type 'n' hit enter
Advanced features 'n' hit enter


(If It asks to start folding on restart you want to hit 'y' and hit enter) <---

wdlove
Feb 2, 2004, 08:46 PM
I'm sorry MrMacman, think that I did smoething wrong again. Please be patient with me, it's not that I'm not trying. I was proud of my self when I found the finder! :)

Just finished running the installer and got this:

###############################################################################
###############################################################################

Arguments: -local -configonly

[02:42:37] Configuring Folding@home...

User name [Anonymous]? wdlove
Team Number [0]? 3446
Ask before fetching/sending work (no/yes) [no]? n
Use proxy (yes/no) [no]? n
Change advanced options (yes/no) [no]? n

[02:43:23] - Ask before connecting: No
[02:43:23] - User name: wdlove (Team 3446)
[02:43:23] - User ID not found locally
[02:43:23] + Requesting User ID from server
[02:43:24] - Machine ID: 1
[02:43:24]
[02:43:24] -configonly flag given, so exiting.
/Volumes/dual/.setup/script.command: line 29: 2846 Terminated ./fah4 -local -configonly
logout
[Process completed]

MrMacMan
Feb 2, 2004, 11:05 PM
That looks pretty damn good to me.

If you can go to your CPU Viewer/Processor Viewer (deepening on which version of 10.x)

when you select to sort by %CPU is there anything that starts with 'fah' at the top (higher percentage).

If you you have it installed properly.

And then... congrads. :D

wdlove
Feb 3, 2004, 11:08 AM
Thank you MrMacman. I check a few places, but I don't know what the CPU Viewer/Processor Viewer is or where it can be located?

So at that point it will be running automatically? Hopefully your patience will be rewarded. Hoping that I will be of assistance to the team. ;)

jbeetz
Feb 3, 2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
Thank you MrMacman. I check a few places, but I don't know what the CPU Viewer/Processor Viewer is or where it can be located?

Since you found the finder (that sounds odd, doesn't it?), look on the left side of the finder window for the "Applications" button. Click on that and the right hand pane should show a bunch of folders. Find the one named "Utilities" and double click on it to open it up. Now, look in the right hand pane for "Process viewer" and double click that. It should open up and then you should see an fah application that is using most of your cpu. TaDa!

WARNING: Jaguar and Panther are different, so it matters which you are running. I run both and get confused, but I tried to give you Panther destructions!

:cool:

MrMacMan
Feb 3, 2004, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
Thank you MrMacman. I check a few places, but I don't know what the CPU Viewer/Processor Viewer is or where it can be located?

So at that point it will be running automatically? Hopefully your patience will be rewarded. Hoping that I will be of assistance to the team. ;)

I sure hope so too...

It should be located in your Applications/Utilities folder


If all is going well... you should be producing nicely.

wdlove
Feb 3, 2004, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
I sure hope so too...

It should be located in your Applications/Utilities folder


If all is going well... you should be producing nicely.

I'm sorry again MrMacman. I went to my Applications/Utilities folder and I don't see an icon called, "Process viewer." Anxious to see if I have actually stated folding.

I hope that you will continue to be patient with me? ;)

MacFan25
Feb 3, 2004, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
I'm sorry again MrMacman. I went to my Applications/Utilities folder and I don't see an icon called, "Process viewer." Anxious to see if I have actually stated folding.
I think he means "Activity Monitor", which should be in your utilities folder if you're running Panther.

MrMacMan
Feb 3, 2004, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by MacFan25
I think he means "Activity Monitor", which should be in your utilities folder if you're running Panther.

Whoops...

Too many Versions of 10.x out there...

Gah the app just changes names in each version... :(

Yes go to Activity Monitor and check if anything starting with the name 'fah' is running, if so your good to go and in 3-4 days you will see your first stats.

wdlove
Feb 5, 2004, 11:37 AM
Is this the correct appeance in my Activity Monitor, MrMacman? Where will I find my stats?

2854 FahCore_78.exe wdlove 58.50 3 7.06 MB 36.39 MB

2853 FahCore_78.exe wdlove 50.00 3 7.05 MB 36.26 MB

2850 fah4 wdlove 0.00 4 1.37 MB 33.56 MB

2849 fah4 wdlove 0.00 4 876.00 KB 33.56 MB

jbeetz
Feb 5, 2004, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
Is this the correct appeance in my Activity Monitor, MrMacman? Where will I find my stats?

2854 FahCore_78.exe wdlove 58.50 3 7.06 MB 36.39 MB

2853 FahCore_78.exe wdlove 50.00 3 7.05 MB 36.26 MB

2850 fah4 wdlove 0.00 4 1.37 MB 33.56 MB

2849 fah4 wdlove 0.00 4 876.00 KB 33.56 MB

wd... this looks like two instances of folding running on a single processor machine which, according to several, is considered a not-so-good thing. I would terminate one of them (by clicking on one of the fah4 processes in activity viewer, then selecting "quit" from the "process" menu and answering "ok" to the 'are you sure' dialog box).

But yes, it does indicate that you are folding away!

wdlove
Feb 5, 2004, 04:50 PM
I'm not sure if the above information might be related to the fact that I have a Power Mac Dual 450. If I should do what jbeetz is suggesting to do in my Activity Monitor. Which one should I click on?

Also where will I find my Stats from my folding? When should I check?


Thank you for your valuable and appreciated assistance MrMacman.
;)

MrMacMan
Feb 5, 2004, 04:50 PM
Wdlove please disregard jbeetz's post...

Originally posted by jbeetz
wd... this looks like two instances of folding running on a single processor machine which, according to several, is considered a not-so-good thing. I would terminate one of them (by clicking on one of the fah4 processes in activity viewer, then selecting "quit" from the "process" menu and answering "ok" to the 'are you sure' dialog box).

But yes, it does indicate that you are folding away!

Of Coarse... when you do have a Dual Machine it is good...

Originally posted by wdlove
Will the folding work with a graphite G4 Dual 450?



Yeah its also in his profile that he has a dual G4...

So yes.

Good Good Good... you have finished your setup.

Good Job.

wdlove
Feb 9, 2004, 08:54 PM
MrMacman I just tried to check on my stats. Didn't see my name listed anywhere. Is it still too soon? Or am I looking in the wrong place? Thank you for your assistance again! ;)

MrMacMan
Feb 9, 2004, 11:09 PM
yeah I am worried... about 10 second before I saw your post I posted this...

click here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?postid=701215#post701215)

Read those instructions...

You should have produced a work unit by now... :confused:

wdlove
Feb 10, 2004, 04:29 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrMacman
yeah I am worried... about 10 second before I saw your post I posted this...

click here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?postid=701215#post701215)

Read those instructions...

You should have produced a work unit by now... :confused: [/QUOTE

Isn't it wonderful how great minds think alike! :p

Hopefully the problems can be worked out satisfactorily.

Sparky's
Apr 5, 2004, 01:00 PM
Here's a question I can't seem to see a straight answer on.
I just joined the team 04-05-04 and I downloaded the graphical version of folding@home. I run a G3 (converted to a G4-500 via Sonnet) with a Radeon 7000 32mb graphics card and 680 mb RAM. It was suggested that I convert to the console version so it would run twice as fast. I am not at all familiar with using terminal and am somewhat apprehensive in messing around there. Since 10:00 am when I got my first WU I am at 17% complete at 2:00 pm. do I need to wait for the Wu to complete before I change to the console version? and when I do will it run at the log-on level of my machine (I have 3 people using this Mac at home, me being the administrator, my wife and my daughter) I would like to let the machine run 24/7 but am unsure how to properly set it up.

Thanks, Sparky
(cancer survivor)

Rower_CPU
Apr 5, 2004, 01:31 PM
I would recommend either using mc68k's scripts above to setup or Tam Mac OS X's InCrease app (http://calxalot.homeip.net/downloads/Versions/InCrease/Current/InCrease.dmg) to ensure that Folding is running at all times your Mac is on.

I'd say let your current work finish and then start fresh with one of the above tools.

jbeetz
Apr 5, 2004, 02:45 PM
Sparky:

I am not familiar with the app that Rower recommended (and the web page came up blank?), if that works then you're golden.

Otherwise, it's a smidge trickier, especially if you want folding to run while the login screen is displayed. If you don't do that, every time you log out you will halt folding. Folding underneath the login screen (and while all other users are logged in as well) requires root permissions...

Rower_CPU
Apr 5, 2004, 03:48 PM
Sparky:

I am not familiar with the app that Rower recommended (and the web page came up blank?), if that works then you're golden.

Otherwise, it's a smidge trickier, especially if you want folding to run while the login screen is displayed. If you don't do that, every time you log out you will halt folding. Folding underneath the login screen (and while all other users are logged in as well) requires root permissions...

The link I posted goes to an OS X dmg file of the app - there's no page there. Both that app and mc68k's scripts will run folding from the command-line as soon as the machine is booted up and for as long as the machine is running, regardless of who's logged in.

Sparky's
Apr 6, 2004, 07:43 AM
OK now I have downloaded "FAH4-CLI" the console version and when I double click I get a "can't find application to open file" message. I downloaded InCrease but the help menu dosen't say how to install it just does a scan finds my Folding@home folder and says InCrease is not installed. I downloaded the single from Mc68ks site and the RCS-72 autosetup.
I have read the help files, double clicked almost everything and am now at a great loss as to what to do. I'm sitting here with terminal open and can't see that anything is happening.
Do you, or somebody have a PDF I can download that will walk me through step by step to get this going?
Thanks, Sparky

P.S. first WU completed in 18 hrs using GUI

Sparky's
Apr 6, 2004, 08:46 AM
It's running but I'm not sure all is OK, I keep seeing (invalid directory) in the terminal and when I launch InCrease, the "Install" button is grayed out. Did it install by it's self when I rebooted? Also when I go to close the terminal window I get "Picture 2" This is all so confusing. I will let it run...

I know Rower is 3 hours behind (Eastern vs. Pacific) so I will be patient and keep monitoring this Thread for any additional input from anyone.

Thanks, Sparky

Sparky's
Apr 6, 2004, 09:34 AM
I'm beginning to feel like wdlove so confused. can someone explain what I am seeing in this terminal window? and why it says invaild e-mail am I folding and getting proper credit?
I checked the Stanford page and in our team 3446 I was ranked 1131 with 13.1 points and 1 WU completed, this was before I switched to the console version FAH4-CLI, I just want to make sure I'm doing things right.

P.S. the link in the signature needs to be updated to: http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=3446

Sparky's
Apr 6, 2004, 10:21 AM
I went back and created the folders that InCrease said were invalid and as soon as I did the Install button became available. I thought all was going OK because the screen started to scroll with all kinds of stuff saying I was 14% complete, but then I noticed the EOF message as shown here:

Rower_CPU
Apr 6, 2004, 12:27 PM
OK, sorry to keep you waiting.

First off, RC5 is not folding related - it's a distributed computing project for cracking encryption. You should not run RC5 and F@H at the same time.

In Picture 5.pdf it appears as if the client is running OK, since you can see some progress has been made, but I would still start fresh because you might have some conflicting things going on with everything you downloaded.

I would kill any RC5 or F@H processes that are running (you can do this in Activity Monitor) and trash the executables files, too. Then, download mc68k's single CPU F@H script and run the 'setup_script.command' which will install everything for you - no need to download the separate CLI version from Stanford.

Sparky's
Apr 6, 2004, 02:35 PM
Thanks Rower, I'm up to 24% right now and I will follow what you mentioned. Guess I got a little over zealous with the downloads.

Can you explain what InCrease is looking for in line 3 and line 10 in the following?

/Users/marclager/Desktop/InCrease.app/Contents/MacOS/foldingctl: /Users/marclager/Library/Application Support/InCrease/data/foldingctl.conf: line 3: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
/Users/marclager/Desktop/InCrease.app/Contents/MacOS/foldingctl: /Users/marclager/Library/Application Support/InCrease/data/foldingctl.conf: line 10: syntax error: unexpected end of file

If it's something I can change I could open foldingctl.conf (somehow) and correct it couldn't I?

I have attached 2 pdfs of the Process Viewer and I can't see RC5 anywhere, so I guess I'm cool.

Rower_CPU
Apr 6, 2004, 02:41 PM
As far as I can figure, it's looking for info in a config file related to the InCrease app...

You should be able to open it in TextEdit and see what's going on in there. From what I can tell, that's not going to affect your folding, just inCrease.

Sparky's
Apr 6, 2004, 02:43 PM
got it, thanks. I'll step aside now for a while and let things happen.

Great com with you.

Sparky

Sparky's
Apr 7, 2004, 07:49 AM
opened up the file in text edit. Line 3 is my user name Sparky's and I think InCrease doesn't like the apostrophe " ' "
The funny thing is that there are only 8 lines in the whole thing so line 10 doesn't even exist.

Anyway status is at 64% went to e-mail and when I was done checked back on it and all I could see was an error message that it couldn't find the script foldingctl so I logged out and back in again and it picked up right where it left off. (mild people panic) All is well.

wdlove
Apr 7, 2004, 09:23 AM
Welcome to our folding team Sparky's, it's great to have you aboard. It does seem to take patience at first to get setup properly. As you have found, there is great help available.

I just installed the Folding program on a PC where if volunteer. Does anyone know if there is an ability to check status of folding on a PC? :)

Dreadnought
Apr 7, 2004, 11:17 AM
I think the same way as for a Mac (except the terminal ofcourse!). So there has to be a FAHlog.text file in the Folding directory. Don't know for sure, don't have a pc in my folding farm.

jbeetz
Apr 20, 2004, 08:09 PM
Wd...

In the systray there is a little folding icon... right click on it, then select "status --- log" and it will open notebook and show you the log. If you just hover over the icon, it will show the relative progress (154/400 for example)

wdlove
Apr 22, 2004, 09:19 PM
Wd...

In the systray there is a little folding icon... right click on it, then select "status --- log" and it will open notebook and show you the log. If you just hover over the icon, it will show the relative progress (154/400 for example)

Thank you jbeetz, mission was successful. It gave me a 22% completion with a due date.

sethypoo
Apr 23, 2004, 03:25 PM
How do I assign myself to team 3446?

sethypoo
Apr 23, 2004, 03:27 PM
Eek, I am getting this error:

[20:22:50] Loaded queue successfully.
[20:22:50] + Benchmarking ...
[20:22:56] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[20:22:56] + Attempting to get work packet
[20:22:56] - Connecting to assignment server
[20:24:11] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[20:24:11] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[20:24:11] - Successful: assigned to (Edited for privacy).
[20:24:11] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[20:24:11] Loaded queue successfully.
[20:24:11] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[20:24:11] (Got status 503)
[20:24:11] + Could not connect to Work Server
[20:24:11] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[20:24:31] + Attempting to get work packet
[20:24:31] - Connecting to assignment server
[20:25:46] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[20:25:46] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[20:25:46] - Successful: assigned to (Edited for privacy).
[20:25:46] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[20:25:46] Loaded queue successfully.
[20:25:46] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[20:25:46] (Got status 503)
[20:25:46] + Could not connect to Work Server
[20:25:46] - Error: Attempt #2 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[20:25:57] + Attempting to get work packet
[20:25:57] - Connecting to assignment server

britboy
Apr 23, 2004, 05:30 PM
Eek, I am getting this error:

<SNIP>

No need to panic. All that's happened is the server your computer is trying to connect is overloaded. Leave it to run for a while and it'll connect succesfully, and continue churching out units for you.

Don't panic
Apr 23, 2004, 05:40 PM
No need to panic.

hey, that's supposed to be my line! ;)

britboy
Apr 23, 2004, 06:12 PM
hey, that's supposed to be my line! ;)


Please, tell me you've watched Dad's Army :eek: :D

Don't panic Mr Mannering!

Don't panic
Apr 23, 2004, 06:31 PM
Please, tell me you've watched Dad's Army :eek: :D

Don't panic Mr Mannering!

'Permission to speak, sir!'
actually my handle is from Douglas Adams, by maybe HE got it from Dad's Army! ;)

Ozi
Apr 25, 2004, 03:56 AM
I have been folding nonstop whilst away from my computer, and in 5 days I have only completed 47 frames of 400! do I have an unusually tough protein or do all of them take this long? also will it "time out" if I don't complete the protein in time?

MrMacMan
Apr 25, 2004, 08:43 PM
I have been folding nonstop whilst away from my computer, and in 5 days I have only completed 47 frames of 400! do I have an unusually tough protein or do all of them take this long? also will it "time out" if I don't complete the protein in time?
Well non-stop eh?

What model is your computer first of all...(speed)

Are you sure your computer isn't going to sleep, because while in sleep mode the CPU doesn't work...


5 days should be much more then that.

Sparky's
Apr 25, 2004, 09:12 PM
I run a G4-500 24/7 and just finished my first "Tinker" in 14 days, only to be hit with another right after it :mad: but at least this one's worth 120 where as the first was only 70, but damn just waiting another 14 days is killer!!!

Ozi
Apr 26, 2004, 01:20 AM
I have an old "Lombard" pBook G3... here is EVERYTHING (http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/merge.xhtml?doc1=60167) you could ever want to know about my computer. It is very slow, but yes I did set it to not go to sleep, i am not a complete n00b. The screen turns off to save power, but I have set the computer to never go to sleep, and to have "best performance" when on power supply. I am now up to 70 frames in about 6 days... so it is going ok. I just dont want it to "time out" and for all this CPU work to have been for nothing. :)

Sparky's
Apr 26, 2004, 08:20 PM
It keeps on chuggin'

50 down 350 to go (at about 1 per hour)

MrMacMan
Apr 26, 2004, 11:28 PM
I have an old "Lombard" pBook G3... here is EVERYTHING (http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/merge.xhtml?doc1=60167) you could ever want to know about my computer. It is very slow, but yes I did set it to not go to sleep, i am not a complete n00b. The screen turns off to save power, but I have set the computer to never go to sleep, and to have "best performance" when on power supply. I am now up to 70 frames in about 6 days... so it is going ok. I just dont want it to "time out" and for all this CPU work to have been for nothing. :)
Although your link goes no where (click it yourself)...
If it is a rather old powerbook, then indeed it will take quite a while to finish.


Its not going to 'time out'... you have 23+ days to finish any work unite with over 400 frames (I checked the page).

But depending on which WU you might have even more time.


--MrMacMan

Ozi
Apr 26, 2004, 11:39 PM
Although your link goes no where (click it yourself)...
If it is a rather old powerbook, then indeed it will take quite a while to finish.


The link works for me no problems. But thanks for the help... I have now done 82 frames, in around a week. What is the difference between "points," frames and work units? *confused*

Don't panic
Apr 27, 2004, 09:52 AM
The link works for me no problems. But thanks for the help... I have now done 82 frames, in around a week. What is the difference between "points," frames and work units? *confused*


Every folding project (p###) is a very complex set of calculations.
To make it manageable by PCs and to verify the results, it is broken up in a number of "Working Units", which are the individual sub-projects that are handed out to us. Working Units are made up of "frames", typically 100 or 400 (sometimes they appear on the log as "steps" and number from thousands to millions). These allow the user to monitor how you are progressing on the job.
The amount of time it takes to finish one WU of a specific kind is standardized, and each WU is awarded a variable number of "points" depending on how hard it is.

MrMacMan
Apr 27, 2004, 04:52 PM
Every folding project (p###) is a very complex set of calculations.
To make it manageable by PCs and to verify the results, it is broken up in a number of "Working Units", which are the individual sub-projects that are handed out to us. Working Units are made up of "frames", typically 100 or 400 (sometimes they appear on the log as "steps" and number from thousands to millions). These allow the user to monitor how you are progressing on the job.
The amount of time it takes to finish one WU of a specific kind is standardized, and each WU is awarded a variable number of "points" depending on how hard it is.
Indeed projects to see why different dieases are made are divided into subgroups and then projects...which make work units.

Work units are worth Points depending how long they take to complete... so yea.

Folding --> Diease --> Projects --> Work Units and Work Units are worth --> Points.

mmmdreg
Sep 29, 2004, 08:38 AM
This may be just me cos i havent seen anyone else mention it but:
the readme states you can run the various commands "blah" but I have to run "~/.blah".. so is that an error of the readme or me?

Rower_CPU
Sep 29, 2004, 01:36 PM
Which commands and which part of which which readme are you referring to?

zimv20
Sep 29, 2004, 02:04 PM
the readme states you can run the various commands "blah" but I have to run "~/.blah".. so is that an error of the readme or me?
it means your home directory isn't in your path

mmmdreg
Sep 29, 2004, 07:33 PM
Which commands and which part of which which readme are you referring to?

heh sorry. The readme included in mc68k's "single" script. The commands "work", "rid" etc etc.

mmmdreg
Sep 30, 2004, 06:41 AM
heh sorry. The readme included in mc68k's "single" script. The commands "work", "rid" etc etc.

Okay they work on the eMacs but not my G3 iMac.. go figure..

On another note, does mc68k's script make it run on boot or login of the user who installed?

edit: answered myself. don't worry (2nd question)

ph_555_shag
Oct 4, 2004, 02:14 AM
ok ive downloaded the graphical client, bcause me and the terminal, we aint very good mates.

so neway in the bottom left corner it says

Core download error (#1), waiting before retry
then
Core download error (#2), waiting before retry... etc.

and never gets any further than #6.... neone know whats going on?

mmmdreg
Oct 4, 2004, 02:20 AM
That may just be a server-based problem. I had that with the command line client last night but this morning it was working fine.

ph_555_shag
Oct 4, 2004, 02:27 AM
ok, ill just leave it running then. i assume it will keep trying till it works
thanx

ph_555_shag
Oct 6, 2004, 05:33 AM
ok its not working, ive tried HEEPS of times.

this is the thing it says:

Core download error (#1), waiting before retry....

i need help... PLEASE!!

arogge
Oct 11, 2004, 03:32 PM
Core download error (#1), waiting before retry....

Does your error message look like this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=92514)?

ph_555_shag
Oct 11, 2004, 05:57 PM
no, im using the GUI interface for folding. ill try to reinstall it. but i cant imagine that working.

talk to u tomorow when thats done

sparky76
Oct 15, 2004, 08:54 AM
I have checked and cannot find a post on this point - I have been folding for a while (no.35 in Team 3446) and have just got a dual G5 PM.
I have downloaded the script for running dual processes and they seem to be working fine. I know I can't look at a graphical client, but is there any way to check how far through a WU each processor is?

Also, how do I quit Folding if I want to (for example, to watch a DVD in peace and quiet)? I have used Activity Monitor to quit the relevant processes, but is there a more elegant solution?

More importantly, how do I restart Folding without rebooting?

If anyone has solutions involving the terminal, please make them as simple as possible. Thank you.

Dreadnought
Oct 15, 2004, 11:30 AM
If you have the dual script from mc68k, there are some commands for it that you can type in the terminal. With "work" you can see how far each WU is. With "stop" you can stop folding. Read the readme that came with it, all commands are explained in there!!! Owh, and Sparky, don't fold too hard, you are almost overtaking me!

sparky76
Oct 15, 2004, 11:53 AM
Thank you dreadnought. Now I'll rid the old files and scripts when the current WUs complete and download the new versions, to make sure I get the current client. And then try to pass you.

Dreadnought
Oct 15, 2004, 01:50 PM
Thank you dreadnought. Now I'll rid the old files and scripts when the current WUs complete and download the new versions, to make sure I get the current client. And then try to pass you.

What did I just day?! Don't try to overtake me! I only have dual 1.8. So don't overtake me! :p

sparky76
Oct 15, 2004, 02:37 PM
Dual 2.5 and 3 Wintel boxes folding. Sorry - I'm overtaking.

Dreadnought
Oct 16, 2004, 03:14 AM
Dual 2.5 and 3 Wintel boxes folding. Sorry - I'm overtaking.

OUCH! Only have my dual 1.8 know. Gotten sick and tired of the noice of my G3 B&W. And noticed that the WU's I send in to Stanford from my work pc didn't resulted in any points... Must be because I have to send them first to my mac, and startup VPC and then send them with F@H. At first this worked, but later when I started to do this once a week and send in a couple of WU's, I didn't get the points anymore. Also If only send one WU. Or I would get a small bit of the points that the WU's where worth. That stupid firewall at work is blocking my connection to Stanford directly. Can't get around it and our IT department is saying that it isn't the firewall! Typically windows IT people who don't want to do anything because they don't understand there job! So far my frustration! To bad really, because else I could have installed F@H on the whole department, and we all are geting new pc, each 2.6 GHZ x 12... That would make me a top 10 folder!

Mudbug
Feb 28, 2005, 10:58 AM
I've downloaded the dual processor script, but I use the screensaver version of the client - will it work the same way, or do I have to use the terminal client?

(sorry if this is already posted - I searched, albeit quickly...)

Rower_CPU
Feb 28, 2005, 12:13 PM
The DP script installs the Terminal version of the client - no GUI whatsoever. It does, however, add some commands so that you can start/stop, view progress, etc. of you current WU.

Be sure not to run both concurrently!

Mudbug
Feb 28, 2005, 01:50 PM
well... I downloaded it, but I didn't install it, stopping short before you answered my question. Thanks - I think I'll stay with the SS client for now, unless one day I get experimental :D I've got it running on 2 dual 1.8's now, so that works out to one dual processor working well. :)

And I'm trying to get my studio PC back into the mix as well, although it got stuck on a WU and kept crashing. I reinstalled the client this a.m., hoping it would fix itself. We'll see. I'm still moving up in the rankings, though :)

DeSnousa
May 15, 2005, 05:00 AM
Just joined, i thought i may as well seeing i have bit torrent in the background downloading during the night. One quick question, when the process is down downloading will it be deleted of my hardrive after sending it back through the internet.

Dreadnought
May 15, 2005, 06:11 AM
Yes it will, after ou finished a WorkUnit, and it is send back, you don't have it on your computer anymore.

Dreadnought
May 15, 2005, 06:14 AM
well... I downloaded it, but I didn't install it, stopping short before you answered my question. Thanks - I think I'll stay with the SS client for now, unless one day I get experimental :D I've got it running on 2 dual 1.8's now, so that works out to one dual processor working well. :)

that's too bad, you could double your output by installing the DP script, even more then doubling it, the GUI also takes a small percentage of your processor power. If you leave those two dual 1.8 running 24/7, you would have an output of about 600 points per day! You would be a top 20 producer for our team then!! :eek:

wdlove
May 15, 2005, 05:46 PM
Just joined, i thought i may as well seeing i have bit torrent in the background downloading during the night. One quick question, when the process is down downloading will it be deleted of my hardrive after sending it back through the internet.

Welcome to the MacRumors folding team. It's great to have your participation DeSnousa. Every bit helps research and MacRumors.
;)

iPoster
May 20, 2005, 11:21 AM
Hello all,

I am using the Terminal client, and recently set it to use "3446" as the team (MacRumors). But I'm not showing up on the list of members of the MacRumors team. And my statistics information still shows me as being a member of team 0.

When going to the change team page on the Stanford website, it asks for the 'old founder e-mail' as mandatory. What do I use for that?

I have also forgotten my password for Folding! :o I can't find any help on their site for resetting/remembering your password...

trainguy77
May 20, 2005, 11:44 AM
Well the login is for changing the team, so unless you started the team you can't change it. Second of all how many work units have you completed since the switch?

I would also suggest using this script: http://calnet.sdsu.edu/mc68k/ It will start folding when the computer is turned on, under any user.

DeSnousa
May 20, 2005, 11:07 PM
Yay completed my first fold. Quick question how does folding@home help macrumors, ive been reading this in places.

Dreadnought
May 21, 2005, 04:34 AM
I guess you know that there is a whole "league" out there and at this moment our team rank is #21. And we are loosing ground!! So we need every bit of processing power we can lay our hands on and defend our #21 spot. Especially from those tin cans...

trainguy77
May 21, 2005, 11:52 AM
Yay completed my first fold. Quick question how does folding@home help macrumors, ive been reading this in places.

Well If you fold for our team(3446) It helps us it get better stats!

iPoster
May 22, 2005, 08:11 AM
Grrrrr! I added my PC to Folding, using my username and team 3446, it re-set my statistics back to all zeroes! I dropped from ~65,000th place to last! :mad: :eek: :(

Update:
Going through the Folding website gives my correct statistics, using the link in the client gives the version of my account with all zeroes. They both still say I'm on team 0 though... :???:

trainguy77
May 22, 2005, 01:25 PM
What is your folding user name?

ham_man
May 23, 2005, 10:37 PM
So how long will it be until all these stats sites start recording my data. I just started today...

ghostee
May 23, 2005, 10:42 PM
Once you complete a work unit.

I just completed my first. I started yesterday, and left it running overnight on my iBook, and it completed sometime today. So give it time. :)

ham_man
May 23, 2005, 10:50 PM
Once you complete a work unit.

I just completed my first. I started yesterday, and left it running overnight on my iBook, and it completed sometime today. So give it time. :)

Thanks, it should be done by the time I come home after finals tomorrow...:)

DeSnousa
May 31, 2005, 04:15 PM
Hey i have downloaded mc68k single processor script to run in the background. Any way i had to restart my computer. And therefore relaunch the terminal and use the "start" command to relaunch F@H in the background. This worked but then when i went to close the terminal it closed the F@H being processed. How do i make it run in the background like i first did when i used the script. Thanks in advance.

zimv20
May 31, 2005, 05:54 PM
stick an ampersand & at the end to run it in the background

iPoster
May 31, 2005, 08:06 PM
What is your folding user name?

Never mind, it split my stats into Team '0' and Team 3446....

DeSnousa
Jun 1, 2005, 12:01 AM
stick an ampersand & at the end to run it in the background

Is it:

start&

cause if it is it is not working i get this message

-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&'

Can you guide me through it with steps please, im a noob at the terminal.

Thanks

DeSnousa
Jun 1, 2005, 04:59 AM
Okay i have done many attempts at solving the problem including the command rid and reinstalling.

I think im just going to have to have the app boot at login then stopping it manually.

If any one has an idea please post as it is starting to annoy me.

Edit: i just realized that by running the script again it goes into setting and than runs F@H5 in the background.

Dreadnought
Jun 1, 2005, 04:58 PM
I have openend a thread about that, I had the same. type in terminal "crontab -l" and restart, F@H should start automatically when you start up and you don't have to have a Terminal window open. check this thread:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=117154

DeSnousa
Jun 2, 2005, 01:47 AM
I have openend a thread about that, I had the same. type in terminal "crontab -l" and restart, F@H should start automatically when you start up and you don't have to have a Terminal window open. check this thread:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=117154

Cheers, thanks for the reply:)

Sparky's
Oct 29, 2005, 03:27 PM
Anyone else running InCrease on a Dual Xserve? I'm running it on my 2 G3's and a new Dell but I'm not sure of installing it on the new G5 Xserve we have. (Dual 2.3 processor, 80gb and mirrored 520gb drives with 4gb RAM) I'm the admin on it and my boss gave me the go-ahead to use it for Folding. (admin HA! I'm in commercial printing, what do I know about being an IT:confused: ) Anyway I'm learning this network stuff and during the process I'd love to have this thing crankin' on a few Tinkers:rolleyes:

Thanks, Sparky

maestro55
Jan 4, 2006, 04:14 PM
Okay, this time there appears to be a real problem and just not a lag in speed. keeps failing to get work to do, after apparently not finishing another job first.

Steve@linux:~/Folding@home> ./FAH502-Linux.exe

Note: Please read the license agreement (FAH502-Linux.exe -license). Further
use of this software requires that you have read and accepted this agreement.


The file FAHlog.txt has been locked by the operating system and cannot be
opened for writing (possibly because it is open in another application).
Before you next run F@H, please ensure FAHlog.txt is not open anywhere,
or simply delete it. For now, FAHlog2.txt will be used.


--- Opening Log file [January 4 22:08:25]


# Linux Console Edition #######################################################
###############################################################################

Folding@Home Client Version 5.02

http://folding.stanford.edu

###############################################################################
###############################################################################

Launch directory: /home/Steve/Folding@home
Executable: ./FAH502-Linux.exe


[22:08:25] - Ask before connecting: No
[22:08:25] - User name: maestro55 (Team 3446)
[22:08:25] - User ID: 5D001C1039CE1E11
[22:08:25] - Machine ID: 1
[22:08:25]
[22:08:25] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:08:25] + Benchmarking ...
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] + Processing work unit
[22:08:31] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[22:08:31] Core found.
[22:08:31] Working on Unit 04 [January 4 22:08:31]
[22:08:31] + Working ...
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] *------------------------------*
[22:08:31] Folding@Home Gromacs Core
[22:08:31] Version 1.86 (August 28, 2005)
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] Preparing to commence simulation
[22:08:31] - Looking at optimizations...
[22:08:31] - Created dyn
[22:08:31] - Files status OK
[22:08:31] - Expanded 1040242 -> 6541398 (decompressed 628.8 percent)
[22:08:31] - Starting from initial work packet
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] Project: 768 (Run 4, Clone 29, Gen 0)
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[22:08:31] Entering M.D.
[22:08:31] Protein: p768_vln3.8pbc
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Extra 3DNow boost OK.
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[22:08:56] CoreStatus = 75 (117)
[22:08:56] Error opening or reading from a file.
[22:08:56] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[22:09:13] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[22:09:13] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:09:13] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:09:13] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:09:13] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:09:13] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:09:14] - Deadline time not received.
[22:09:15] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[22:09:24] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:09:24] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:09:25] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:09:25] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:09:25] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:09:27] - Deadline time not received.
[22:09:29] - Error: Attempt #2 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[22:09:46] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:09:46] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:09:47] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:09:47] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:09:47] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:09:48] - Deadline time not received.
[22:09:49] - Error: Attempt #3 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[22:10:20] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:10:20] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:10:21] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:10:21] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:10:21] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:10:22] - Deadline time not received.
[22:10:24] - Error: Attempt #4 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[22:11:07] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:11:07] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:11:07] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:11:07] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:11:07] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:11:08] - Deadline time not received.
[22:11:10] - Error: Attempt #5 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[22:12:34] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:12:34] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:12:35] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:12:35] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:12:36] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:12:36] - Deadline time not received.
[22:12:37] - Error: Attempt #6 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.


There is the terminal output.

Dreadnought
Jan 5, 2006, 04:54 PM
Hmmm, or there is something going on at Stanfords, or there is an error from your side. But it seems I gotten new WU today, so, I guess it your mac. Did you update something? Or open the FAHlog.txt file and maybe changed anything and then saved it? Because you haven't have a WU in progress now, I would delete the complete folding folder on your harddisk and install it again. Good luck, and happy folding!

maestro55
Jan 6, 2006, 05:04 PM
Hmmm, or there is something going on at Stanfords, or there is an error from your side. But it seems I gotten new WU today, so, I guess it your mac. Did you update something? Or open the FAHlog.txt file and maybe changed anything and then saved it? Because you haven't have a WU in progress now, I would delete the complete folding folder on your harddisk and install it again. Good luck, and happy folding!

Apparently the FAHlog.txt file was given to root, and so it couldn't open that file as a user and it was making a new FAHlog2.txt file. I got it going..

BTW: Running this on a Linux machine, since my macs have OS 9.1 not X on them. If I had OS X on my macs I would have 4 machines here running Folding, right now I have two. Maybe I will do a Linux folding cluster :)

iDM
Jan 24, 2006, 09:24 PM
Hey everyone I just downloaded the .dmg of folding and tonight is my first experience folding so I have got the protein started but I have a couple of questions.

First off, I know that on the FAQ page it says that this program will not over heat your computer as long as it is properly cooled. However I am on a 2-yr old PB that is my main and only machine so with recent posts and threads talking about HD failure after a couple of years it gets me a little concerned. I assume however that this is not a HD intensive only processor intensive which I am more comfortable with but still I would like to know the realistic amount of wear and tear on which components of my machine.

Second according to my calculations the progress is 0.25 after 30 minutes of time. Wouldn't that mean this protein would take 200 hrs? (30x4=120mins(0.25x4=1%) 120x100=12000mins or 200hrs) My concern is not over the run time but over if this will even be useful data after 200hrs. I read somewhere that if the protein is not received in enough time then it can not be used and instead only the stats are added to the folding group which no offense doesn't mean as much to me as the scientific stand point.

Thirdly I understand that running the console uses more processor cycles and therefore isn't as efficient. With that being the case is running terminal the most efficient way?

And last which is least important and more of just a comment/observation, a dual-core or quad-core G5 must dominate these folding tasks. Anyone have any idea if those super computers around the world are doing these calculations? Like that one at Virginia - Tech?

iDM
Jan 26, 2006, 03:10 PM
Another question I have been folding for a few days now and when i go to check my statistics my name doesn't show up. I do see a member called idmd, but my name in the folding console windows is idm. Also I don't think the dates are correct so I don't think this person is me. Anyone have any ideas about the questions above or my statistics question?

Dreadnought
Jan 26, 2006, 03:52 PM
Have you finished a WU already? No finished WU = No points = No stats.

iDM
Jan 26, 2006, 04:01 PM
Have you finished a WU already? No finished WU = No points = No stats.

I have no idea. Here is the info when I go to My Statistics(which doesn't appear to reveal anything.

"<html>
<head>
<title>Folding@Home</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta http-equiv="REFRESH" content="1; URL=http://folding.stanford.edu/stats.html">
</head>
<body>
<img src="../FAHlogoML.jpg" width="537" height="98" border="0">
<BR>
The Folding@Home stats pages have moved. The new link is
<A href=http://folding.stanford.edu/stats.html>
http://folding.stanford.edu/stats.html
</A>

<BR><BR>

You will automatically be transfered to the new url.
</body>
</html>"

Here is a picture of my console.

Dreadnought
Jan 27, 2006, 06:39 PM
I don't think so, you only have 15% complete of your first WU. Wait till this is finished, and then it can sometimes take a day before you come up in Stanfords states (normally this takes about an hour).

iDM
Jan 27, 2006, 09:40 PM
I don't think so, you only have 15% complete of your first WU. Wait till this is finished, and then it can sometimes take a day before you come up in Stanfords states (normally this takes about an hour).

Oh ok I didn't realize that percentage was only of one WU. I thought I had read somewhere that each protein had multiple work units so i wrongly assumed that 3 days of folding would have yielded one WU but I guess not. Thanks for the heads up. Got any input on my other questions??

Dreadnought
Jan 28, 2006, 09:19 AM
I think the reason nobody answered your previous questions is because we have answered them a whole lot of times, you probably also will come accross these questions in this thread. All of your question are already answered, but you have to look in this forum for the answers! Sorry for this answer, but it's getting old having to answer these questions every couple of weeks. But for the last time:

First off, I know that on the FAQ page it says that this program will not over heat your computer as long as it is properly cooled. However I am on a 2-yr old PB that is my main and only machine so with recent posts and threads talking about HD failure after a couple of years it gets me a little concerned. I assume however that this is not a HD intensive only processor intensive which I am more comfortable with but still I would like to know the realistic amount of wear and tear on which components of my machine. It could make your PB very hot, and it's needs to cool down now and then. Shut it down for a night once in a while. Or use a cooling pad under it or raise it from one side so that air can flow under it. The hotter a machine gets, working for a long time on its maximum temparature, will wear it down faster. It's also HD intensive, it stores its results every 15 minutes (you can adjust this in your prefs), so your HD doesn't go into sleep mode.

Second according to my calculations the progress is 0.25 after 30 minutes of time. Wouldn't that mean this protein would take 200 hrs? (30x4=120mins(0.25x4=1%) 120x100=12000mins or 200hrs) My concern is not over the run time but over if this will even be useful data after 200hrs. I read somewhere that if the protein is not received in enough time then it can not be used and instead only the stats are added to the folding group which no offense doesn't mean as much to me as the scientific stand point.Stanford has a time frame when they want the results back, a lot of people start folding and get sick of it very fast. When a WU isn't finished in time, they give it to someone else and you probably don't get credit for it. The time you calculated could be correct. Your PB isn't as powerfull for this kind of work as my G5. It depends on the processor and WU how long the WU is going to take. A WU could also have 400 frames (400 pieces of a big WU) this is instead of percentage which you now have (100% is one whole simulated and finished WU!).

Thirdly I understand that running the console uses more processor cycles and therefore isn't as efficient. With that being the case is running terminal the most efficient way?Yes! It's more efficient, your processor doesn't need to help simulate a fancy picture.

And last which is least important and more of just a comment/observation, a dual-core or quad-core G5 must dominate these folding tasks. Anyone have any idea if those super computers around the world are doing these calculations? Like that one at Virginia - Tech? Virginia Tech probably doesn't do folding, they rent their computing power to others. But this could be, you can install folding on super clusters. But, every processor has to fold it's own WU because folding is setup like this. It uses its own outcome to simulate its next step. In a supercluster it would go parallel, every processor has a little chunk and other computers puts it together to one big thing.

meeble
Jan 2, 2007, 11:51 PM
the FAQ is out of date, and I can't find them anywhere.

Anyone?

Thanks,
meeble

Vlade
Jan 3, 2007, 10:23 AM
I actually have them in a hidden spot on my own server so I can download them and install them easier when I needed to. I hope Mc68k doesn't mind me giving out a link with them on it, but its for the good of the team so here they are -

http://nuclearnova.com/temp/f1.dmg - single CPU
http://nuclearnova.com/temp/f2.dmg - dual CPU

meeble
Jan 3, 2007, 10:39 AM
thank you Vlade!

if you are willing to keep these served, someone should change the FAQ to point to you instead of dead 404 links.

anyone?

-meeble

Vlade
Jan 3, 2007, 10:43 AM
I have no problem serving the files and my website will be around for longer than the scripts work. I'm not sure when the 4.x client will be disabled by stanford, and I think thats what version the scripts are?

Dreadnought
Jan 3, 2007, 02:54 PM
I think I still have an image on my iPod (which I never use) for a dual proc setup. So give me a PM with your email and I will send it to you.

edit: sorry, don't have it anymore.

JDN
Mar 24, 2007, 07:26 AM
Whats up with my folding@home???

I installed the SMP client 'Installer' version of FAH and when i open it in applications all i get is this:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/GordonsAndTonic/Picture1-4.png


I started FAH in the system preferences, but i have no idea where to go from here. Is this normal with the beta? Is it that sketchy?

Help? Anyone?

Dreadnought
Mar 24, 2007, 08:53 AM
Nice pic! And thanks for the PM, but I'm sorry I can't help you with this one, never seen this before. You have the Beta for Intel Macs. I have heard that is does some strange things and still have a lot of problems, but haven't heard about this. Because your CPU is at about 95% it is working/folding. There is a Intel folding thread, discussing more things about the Beta for Intel Macs. Maybe someone can help you there. Happy folding, and don't give up just because you have this strange thing, remember, it's still in Beta!! if you want to see the progress of your unit, open the FAHlog.txt file and scroll down to the end.

pseudobrit
Mar 24, 2007, 12:05 PM
Whats up with my folding@home???

I installed the SMP client 'Installer' version of FAH and when i open it in applications all i get is this:

The beta app is buggered. Just use the console version in Terminal. It looks just fine, but very boring of course:

70816

JDN
Mar 24, 2007, 12:37 PM
I don't feel confident enough to do things through the console. I downloaded InCrease, but that doesn't seem to be displaying my WU ... but it is working because my FAHlog is tracking progress.

BootstrapMetal
Mar 25, 2007, 11:19 AM
I just started folding today. I need your help, because I think I'm not doing much as of now.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8830/workingcv9.png

This is running on an Intel iMac Core Duo

JDN
Mar 26, 2007, 01:16 PM
I STILL can't get InCrease to show the WU im folding. I can open the FAHlog and it shows my progress but id really like InCrease to run so i can see more (and it looks nicer) Also, the FAH window still looks like the pic in my post above. But i guess we just need to wait for a stable beta.

Can anyone help?

Sbrocket
Aug 14, 2007, 11:56 PM
I just started folding today. I need your help, because I think I'm not doing much as of now.

<snip photo link>

This is running on an Intel iMac Core Duo

Yeah, you're folding. The 4 folding cores are definitely working -- 57.1, 58.4, 22.1, and 38.6 percent CPU usage respectively over the processes is definitely making some progress. I can understand your confusion though; why isn't the progress column showing anything?! Simple! Go to "Tools > Download qd updates" and you should be good to go. :D

Now, whether or not you'll meet the deadlines on a Core Duo is another question.

bousozoku
Aug 16, 2007, 12:57 AM
I have no problem serving the files and my website will be around for longer than the scripts work. I'm not sure when the 4.x client will be disabled by stanford, and I think thats what version the scripts are?

I'll take a look at those and change them as necessary since I did part of the update to 4.x for mc68k. I could probably upgrade the scripts for 4 (8, if possibe) cores, if someone wanted to deal with that.


The two disk images already contain version 5 of the same date that I'm currently running. No change is necessary.

twoodcc
Feb 20, 2008, 06:31 PM
so what about folding on my mbp? i started it, but fans are going non-stop.

iPhil
Feb 20, 2008, 07:05 PM
How do i set the app up for dual cpu performance ?


the group id for F@H ? :o

4JNA
Feb 22, 2008, 08:19 AM
How do i set the app up for dual cpu performance ?

sorry, didn't see your question until now. little slow sometimes... :o
you might want to try running Increase (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/16999) as an easy way to set up dual folding. nice program, and good support on that other forum. :cool:


the group id for F@H ? :o

3446 is the Macrumors team id. welcome to the team and thanks for folding!