iBook G4 on Apple's Website!

[Pete_Hoover]

I was surfing Apple's website and I looked at the Tony Hawk 4 game. Under specifications it lists Power Mac G4, iMac G4, eMac, PowerBook G4, or iBook G4. Could this be a hint, or just a typo? Here is the address.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/70602/wo/Uj2Fkmhfsyuu27lnNwd1klbGgCs/0.0.5.1.0.5.41.0.1.1.7.7.1.1.0

[edesignuk]

Typo! Without a doubt!

[Chaszmyr]

Normally you could speculate that it might mean an ibook update soon, but the iBOOK WAS JUST UPDATED!

Its a TYPO

[Sun Baked]

Doesn't even list an iBook at the company site...

http://www.aspyr.com/products.php?p_product_id=60

MacOS:

* Mac OS X 10.1.2 or later
* Power Mac G4, iMac G4, eMac, or PowerBook G4
* 733MHz G4 processor or faster
* 256MB of RAM
* 700MB hard drive space
* 3D Graphics Acceleration required (minimum of ATI Radeon or NVIDIA GeForce 2 series card)
* 32 MB of video memory (VRAM)

[shakespeare]

A Brenthaven case, being sold in Apple Retail Stores now, that seems to be made for a 12-inch laptop, is labelled 'iBook G4'. Another typo?

[cb911]

shakespeare, do you mean like a laptop bag/carry case? one of them being labled iBook G4... they might have some news that we missed out on.:eek:

that Apple store thing seems like a typo, but don't forget the iBooks were just speed-bumped, no real upgrades. also, don't forget that there's rumors of the iBooks ending production soon.

oh well, no harm in dreaming.:p ;) :D

[applemacdude]

typo, typo , typo ,typo, typo, typo, typo, typo, typo:)

[Riko19]

well that is a definate typo! :eek:

[shakespeare]

Originally posted by cb911
shakespeare, do you mean like a laptop bag/carry case? one of them being labled iBook G4... they might have some news that we missed out on.:eek:

that Apple store thing seems like a typo, but don't forget the iBooks were just speed-bumped, no real upgrades. also, don't forget that there's rumors of the iBooks ending production soon.

oh well, no harm in dreaming.:p ;) :D

Yes, I decidedly saw a carry case, made by Brenthaven, being sold at the Cambridge, Massachusetts Apple Store that had printed in large black letters on its orange label "iBook G4". I am certain of this, because I stared at it for a while, trying to see if I was misreading it, but that's what it said.

[Riko19]

you know what i find funny i can get a case from america and it arrives next day from www.maccases.com or summing but when it comes to 17 incher its taken longer than 16 weeks laughable.

:)

[QCassidy352]

maybe the problem is poor punctuation. This: "iBook G4" could easily have been intended to be this: "iBook/ G4"

"also, don't forget that there's rumors of the iBooks ending production soon."

What do you mean? That apple would eliminate consumer laptops entirely (i.e. powerbook or nothing)? There's simply no way.
Or do you mean ending production as in a new consumer laptop that will not look at all like the ibook? I haven't heard any such rumors either way. Where does this come from?

[cb911]

Originally posted by QCassidy352
"also, don't forget that there's rumors of the iBooks ending production soon."

What do you mean? That apple would eliminate consumer laptops entirely (i.e. powerbook or nothing)? There's simply no way.
Or do you mean ending production as in a new consumer laptop that will not look at all like the ibook? I haven't heard any such rumors either way. Where does this come from?

yeah, it could be a typo, but i read this article PowerBook Road Map (http://www.powerpage.org/story.lasso?newsID=10917) at powerpage.org.

here's the main bit of text:
* 04/22/2003 - iBook: 900MHz, 32MB VRAM (announced yesterday)
* 04/28/2003 - iPod 2: Ok so it's not a PB...
* 05/19/2003 - Aluminum PB15: BT, Airport Extreme, FW 800, Ambient Lighting
* 06/23/2003 - Apple squashes tablet/PDA rumors at WWDC
* 08/11/2003 - PB12 speed-bump: 1GHz, FW800, Ambient Lighting, iBook EOL
* 01/06/2004 - PB17: Dual 1GHz+ and/or IBM PPC 970 processor, Variable Bus Timing

note that on the date 08/11/2003 it says 'iBook EOL'. as i understood it i thought that this meant End Of Line, which is quite possible because when the 970 comes in the iBook (or G3) as we know it will be quite old.

if anyone has different ideas as to what this road map means for the iBooks, then please share.

[rainman::|:|]

Originally posted by cb911
note that on the date 08/11/2003 it says 'iBook EOL'. as i understood it i thought that this meant End Of Line, which is quite possible because when the 970 comes in the iBook (or G3) as we know it will be quite old.

if anyone has different ideas as to what this road map means for the iBooks, then please share.

generally when a product is obsolete, apple upgrades it, rather than killing the product line... generally speaking, of course.

it's a typo. as for the carrying bag, the idiots that make the bag probably just got the names confused-- ever try explaining to a PC person the difference between an iBook and a PowerBook G4 and why it's a PowerMac G4 but not an iMac G4 when it's the same chip? they probably meant the iBook but but 'G4' after it because they knew the G4 laptop would also fit, something stupid like that...

pnw

[FlamDrag]

Notice that these are all 3rd party items who mention iBook G4...someone clearly doesn't know what they're saying. Just slipped by apple editors.

This thread should die.

[zimv20]

on the keyboard, how close are the 3 and 4 keys?

[zimv20]

wait. never mind. found it.

[QCassidy352]

Originally posted by cb911
yeah, it could be a typo, but i read this article PowerBook Road Map (http://www.powerpage.org/story.lasso?newsID=10917) at powerpage.org.

here's the main bit of text:
* 04/22/2003 - iBook: 900MHz, 32MB VRAM (announced yesterday)
* 04/28/2003 - iPod 2: Ok so it's not a PB...
* 05/19/2003 - Aluminum PB15: BT, Airport Extreme, FW 800, Ambient Lighting
* 06/23/2003 - Apple squashes tablet/PDA rumors at WWDC
* 08/11/2003 - PB12 speed-bump: 1GHz, FW800, Ambient Lighting, iBook EOL
* 01/06/2004 - PB17: Dual 1GHz+ and/or IBM PPC 970 processor, Variable Bus Timing

note that on the date 08/11/2003 it says 'iBook EOL'. as i understood it i thought that this meant End Of Line, which is quite possible because when the 970 comes in the iBook (or G3) as we know it will be quite old.

if anyone has different ideas as to what this road map means for the iBooks, then please share.

these look like wild guesses to me. So what would apple's plan be here -- to once again put their laptops only in the $2000 and up price range? Yeah, that makes a *lot* of sense. :rolleyes:

As for the age of the G3, this has been discussed here before. With it's low heat output, the G3 is a good mobile chip, arguably better than the G4. Furthermore, IBM has said in the past that it could "easily" push the Sahara G3 chip to 2 Ghz. Do you know how sweet a 2 Ghz ibook with a 200 mhz bus would be? There's no reason that the ibook, or the G3, should or will die anytime soon. Who cares how old it technically is. A 2 Ghz Sahara G3 with a 200 mhz bus would walk all over the current powerbooks in most tasks.

(sidenote: IMHO, the reason we have not seen the full power of the G3s is because motorola screwed up so bad with the G4s... and apple doesn't want its consumer laptop to have twice the clockspeed of its pro laptops. apple also can't very well put G3s back in PBs even if it's a good idea, not after how they touted the G4 as the next great thing. So the PBs have to wait for 970s, and the ibooks have to wait for them in a way also.)

[cb911]

i was thinking today, by saying EOL they might mean that the case, everythning about the current iBooks will change/be revised.

that's feasable, isn't it?

i don't think that these are just 'wild guesses' either. they may not be entirely accurate, but don't overlook them just because it seems to good to be true.

[QCassidy352]

"i was thinking today, by saying EOL they might mean that the case, everythning about the current iBooks will change/be revised.

that's feasable, isn't it?"

Yes, I think that's entirely possible. The end of the Apple consumer laptop is not however.

I say that these seem like "wild guesses" because it is basically exactly what mac people would hope for. And since when do we get exactly what we want? ;) It just looks like wishful thinking to me, that's all.

[lmalave]

Originally posted by shakespeare
A Brenthaven case, being sold in Apple Retail Stores now, that seems to be made for a 12-inch laptop, is labelled 'iBook G4'. Another typo?

Do you mean the backpack? Hey, I just bought that case! It's freakin sweeeeeeet! Much comfier than my old decrepit backpack.

[howard]

don't worry the ibook is not going anywhere...

as some people already said, it might say eol because its gonna get a big revamp...it hasn't in quite some time. but the model, ibook, a lower end laptop, apple will ALWAYS have. everyone knows apple sells butt loads of ibooks.

[celaurie]

We already have a G4 iBook, it's called the 12' AluBook. :p

[dstorey]

this all reminds me of steve on monday...he talks about his sons g4 ibook then corrects him self and says powerbook.

[brandon_deal]

It is obviously a Typo, you must be trippin

[ouketii]

hmm, must be real. we know how anal apple is about not releasing specs early..

nah its typo

[iJon]

Originally posted by brandon_deal
It is obviously a Typo, you must be trippin
you know ive seen a quite a few of your posts today. and they have all been negative and almost towards a person. why would you dig up this thread from so long ago just to call some a loser.

iJon

[ibookin']

Originally posted by iJon
you know ive seen a quite a few of your posts today. and they have all been negative and almost towards a person. why would you dig up this thread from so long ago just to call some a loser.

iJon

Yeah, it was kind of weird to see this thread reappear after looking at it MONTHS ago.

Although it is interesting that Aspyr requires a G4 chip and Apple says that it will work on an iBook...

Hmm...

[ftaok]

Originally posted by QCassidy352
Furthermore, IBM has said in the past that it could "easily" push the Sahara G3 chip to 2 Ghz. Do you know how sweet a 2 Ghz ibook with a 200 mhz bus would be? There's no reason that the ibook, or the G3, should or will die anytime soon. Who cares how old it technically is. A 2 Ghz Sahara G3 with a 200 mhz bus would walk all over the current powerbooks in most tasks.

That's just IBM talking out of their butts.

Why would the Sahara be able to run at 2ghz when the the replacement chip (the Gobi) is expected to run at speeds "up to 1.1ghz"? Here's an up-to-date LINK (http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/powerpc/newsletter/jun2003/newproductfocus.html) from IBM.

The reason that the iBook is at 900mhz is because IBM has only been able to get the Sahara to 900mhz. However, the 100mhz bus is totally Apple's doing.

[akushlan]

T to the Y to the P to the O

[icetraxxg5]

Originally posted by ftaok
That's just IBM talking out of their butts.

Why would the Sahara be able to run at 2ghz when the the replacement chip (the Gobi) is expected to run at speeds "up to 1.1ghz"? Here's an up-to-date LINK (http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/powerpc/newsletter/jun2003/newproductfocus.html) from IBM.

The reason that the iBook is at 900mhz is because IBM has only been able to get the Sahara to 900mhz. However, the 100mhz bus is totally Apple's doing.


I thought the saraha maxed out at 1GHz...

[ftaok]

Originally posted by icetraxxg5
I thought the saraha maxed out at 1GHz... That's what IBM had said way back in 2001. But looking at their latest documentation, it looks like they've stalled at 900mhz.

As for what the cause of the stall is/was, that's up for debate. Perhaps Apple told them that they wouldn't be buying any more 750FXs so IBM stopped developing them in favor of the 750GX. Who knows?

[snahabed]

Haha I noticed this guy replying to age-old posts too, just to post some meaningless comment. Some people need a hobby!