Post EyeTV 250 Screenshots?

[TheSpaz]

Can anyone post some TV captures from their EyeTV 250 so I can get an idea of how the quality is? I'm having a really hard time finding any "actual size" screenshots of this in action. I'm really interested if it will be better than hooking up my Pyro AV Analog-to-Digital converter to my VCR. I think it would since it's getting a direct signal from the cable company rather than running it through my VCR and then through RCA cables and then to a analog-to-digital converter unit but, I still haven't found any evidence to back that up.

So, please... if you have an EyeTV 250, I'd love to see some "real" screenshots of it in use.

[iKwick7]

I would be more than happy to- when I get home, which will not be for another 7 hours or so.

[TheSpaz]

I would be more than happy to- when I get home, which will not be for another 7 hours or so.

Thanks! No hurry. It's not supposed to even ship until probably Wednesday.

[Joony]

Go for the Miglia TVMini HD (http://www.miglia.com/products/video/tvminihd/index.html)!

Free unencrypted HD local channels!

edit: That's 720p (1280x720) by the way, other channels do 1080i at 1920x1080!

[TheSpaz]

Go for the Miglia TVMini HD (http://www.miglia.com/products/video/tvminihd/index.html)!

Free unencrypted HD local channels!

edit: That's 720p (1280x720) by the way, other channels do 1080i at 1920x1080!

Umm... that's great and thank you for that nice screenshot but, I already ordered the EyeTV 250 because I read about how great it was and I don't know much about HDTV so that's why I got the EyeTV 250. I'm kinda regretting it now... do you think I made a bad choice... I swear I looked at all my options but, this one must have slipped through.

How can I tell if I get HD signals near my house anyway? I kinda live in a small town that doesn't have much.

[tipdrill407]

Go for the Miglia TVMini HD (http://www.miglia.com/products/video/tvminihd/index.html)!

Free unencrypted HD local channels!

edit: That's 720p (1280x720) by the way, other channels do 1080i at 1920x1080!

I'm thinking of getting that product too, are you using the antennae that's included? How's the reception?

[Mhill]

Bloody Americans with there free to air HDtv broadcasts!

[fall3n]

Go for the Miglia TVMini HD (http://www.miglia.com/products/video/tvminihd/index.html)!

Free unencrypted HD local channels!

edit: That's 720p (1280x720) by the way, other channels do 1080i at 1920x1080!

looks good. The eyeTV 250 also has an HDTV antenna option. Anyone know if Vancouver, BC gets HDTV airwave broadcast? One thing, the Miglia doesn't have "game mode" does it?

[ftaok]

How can I tell if I get HD signals near my house anyway? I kinda live in a small town that doesn't have much.

Go to antennaweb.org and plug in your zip code. It'll tell you how far you're away from the main antennas and such.

Keep in mind that receving OTA HD signals is different than regular OTA signals. With OTA HD, either you get a crystal clear picture or you don't get a picture at all. No worries about having a blurry, distorted picture like with a regular signal.

Also, if you have cable, the Miglia HDTV mini has a QAM tuner, which means that you can receive any digital channel that your cable provider sends through unencrypted (aka "in-the-clear"). Usually, it's limited to your local networks. So if you can't get an OTA signal, you might be able to with cable. The best thing is that it won't cost you anything above the price of basic cable.

ft

[iKwick7]

Thanks! No hurry. It's not supposed to even ship until probably Wednesday.

The screen game makes it look a lot fuzzier than it really is.

[ronni3]

The screen game makes it look a lot fuzzier than it really is.

Just a question, how has Photoshop behaved for you on your 24" iMac? I am considering getting one or possibly a Mac pro.

[iKwick7]

Just a question, how has Photoshop behaved for you on your 24" iMac? I am considering getting one or possibly a Mac pro.

I have Photoshop Elements 3.0, so it runs under Rosetta. My line of work is primarily AutoCad/Sketchup/modeling and drafting based, with quite a bit of photoshop here and there. So, while I am no photoshop expert, I do know a few things and use it quite a bit. All the jobs in that Photoshops folder are post production renderings- just a bi of tewaking in PhotoShop, nothing to serious.

I won't lie- when I have some serious Photoshopping to do, I reboot using Bootcamp and do it in Windows. It's sad, I know, but a few of my other programs work much better in Windows until I can get some universal binary action (I'm looking at you, SketchUp and CorelDraw!).

As for day to day photoshop work, it runs fine in Rosetta. Granted, I am using a stock 24" iMac and I really do need to get to 2 or 3 gigs of ram, but she does her job. I notice a bit of slowdown in Rosetta Photoshop, primarily when doing erasing or using a large brush (CorelDraw is almost unuseable in that regard) or scaling.

It's really not the computer- if you need to do some serious photoshop, I either suggest using BootCamp or waiting for the universal binary version, but if you aren't doing anything crazy then you should be fine with Rosetta, for now.

[ronni3]

Thanks iKwick7!

By the way, which Elgato/Miglia product are you using for TV? I am considering getting the Miglia TVMini HD.

[iKwick7]

Thanks iKwick7!

By the way, which Elgato/Miglia product are you using for TV? I am considering getting the Miglia TVMini HD.

The ElGato 250. I bought it primarily to convert a ton of old vhs tapes onto my mac and then spiffy them up onto dvd. It does a great job of recording tv though as well- far better than what I used a year or 2 ago on the *gasp* pc- and far better than the garbage I have to pay Cablevision $15 a month for.

It's funny, too- I have a 27" lcd hdtv directly above my mac, on the wall- and ever since I got this 250 I hav ebeen watching tv on the mac, not the tv. :) I don't have to look up anymore!

EDIT: the camera does make the Elgato shot look much better than that screen grab- it really is quite nice. Also gotta love tiny little desks in tiny little apartments- boy that thing is messy! Just got finished w/ a little work marathon- things sure do get cluttered on that thing when I am using the lapop and mac at the same time!

[Joony]

yup, as ftaok said, with the Miglia TVMini HD, you can go through antenna (best to have a rooftop for maximum signal though) or hook it up through cable to get HD.

The included antenna is pretty weak! So I use the rooftop when I'm at home, and cable when I'm at school in the dorms.

Another shot, fullscreened on my MBP.

[Jopling]

yup, as ftaok said, with the Miglia TVMini HD, you can go through antenna (best to have a rooftop for maximum signal though) or hook it up through cable to get HD.

The included antenna is pretty weak! So I use the rooftop when I'm at home, and cable when I'm at school in the dorms.

Another shot, fullscreened on my MBP.

Damn, that desktop display is sexy

[TheSpaz]

The screen game makes it look a lot fuzzier than it really is.

Why did you JPEG compress it so much? Doesn't PNG work just fine for screenshots? Did you use any special App to take that screenshot? If you did, you shouldn't have to because you can take screenshots using cmd-Shift-3

Just in case you didn't know... I'm not trying to give you a hard time.

[FireArse]

Bloody Americans with there free to air HDtv broadcasts!

I couldn't agree more. Do they still have analogue broadcasts on? Where in the frequency table are they broadcasting it? I know London had a trial recently - but I wasn't able to onto it for testing.

Only other way is to download while you're at work, and watch the TV/Mac when you're at home.

F

[Motley]

looks good. The eyeTV 250 also has an HDTV antenna option. Anyone know if Vancouver, BC gets HDTV airwave broadcast? One thing, the Miglia doesn't have "game mode" does it?

The Hybrid gets the HDTV and SD, the 250 only does SD programs.

[iKwick7]

Why did you JPEG compress it so much? Doesn't PNG work just fine for screenshots? Did you use any special App to take that screenshot? If you did, you shouldn't have to because you can take screenshots using cmd-Shift-3

Just in case you didn't know... I'm not trying to give you a hard time.

No worries. I did a cmd-shift-3 screen grab, of course, but the file was quite a bit over the size limit. In my late night tired stuper, I just did a super quick file size adjustment in photoshop and called it a night.

:)

[ronni3]

yup, as ftaok said, with the Miglia TVMini HD, you can go through antenna (best to have a rooftop for maximum signal though) or hook it up through cable to get HD.

The included antenna is pretty weak! So I use the rooftop when I'm at home, and cable when I'm at school in the dorms.

Another shot, fullscreened on my MBP.

Joony -

I have been trying to figure this one out but have yet to get any answers. Since you live in the Chicago area, could you more or less tell me what channels you have been able to get using the TVMini HD through your schools cable line.

I plan on getting this, eventually, and want to be sure it will be worth my money.

[TheSpaz]

The Hybrid gets the HDTV and SD, the 250 only does SD programs.

What are SD programs? I still don't understand how you can get "free" HDTV channels using a simple antenna. Can someone explain to me what the difference between what the Miglia TVMini HD does versus the EyeTV 250?

If I CAN get an antenna for the EyeTV 250, could I still get the same free-to-air channels as those with the Miglia TVMini HD?

[ftaok]

What are SD programs? I still don't understand how you can get "free" HDTV channels using a simple antenna. Can someone explain to me what the difference between what the Miglia TVMini HD does versus the EyeTV 250?

If I CAN get an antenna for the EyeTV 250, could I still get the same free-to-air channels as those with the Miglia TVMini HD?

OK,

Here's a quick primer. This info refers only to USA standards.

SD = Standard Definition - resolution is limited to roughly 640x480 (sometimes also listed as 720x480 for stuff like DVDs). SD can be either analog or digital. Analog being 480i and digital being 480p.

HD=High Definition - HD in the US is always digital. The two flavors of HD being broadcast in the US are 720p and 1080i. Most new HDTV (if not all) support both standards.

OTA - over the air. Refers to signals received via an antenna.

NTSC - this refers to the type of tuner a TV uses. NTSC is the tuning system that you're used to receiving. If you use an antenna, you get VHF frequencies on channels 2-13 and UHF on channels 14-69. If you use cable, channels 2-125 are using NTSC.

ATSC - this is the tuning system used for OTA digital broadcasts. This is the type of tuner you'd be using if you wanted to get your HD channels with an antenna. ATSC also include your digital SD signals.

QAM - this is the tuning system used by some (most???) cable systems for digital broadcasts. With just the QAM tuner, you should be able to pick up any unencrypted digital channel, including HD ones. If you want to pick up the encrypted ones, you'll need to get a Cable Card and pay for the appropriate service.


With that said, the difference between the EyeTV 250 and Miglia HDTV mini is that one is a digital tuner and one is an analog one. The EyeTV 250 only has an NTSC tuner. So you will not be able to pick up any digital station ... therefore, HDTV is not acheivable.

With the Miglia HDTV mini, you have ATSC and QAM tuners, but no NTSC tuner. While you will be able to pick up HD channels either through an antenna or your cable connection, you won't be able to get the analog stations. If you're only interested in the local networks, then no problem since the locals usually show the same programs on the HD and SD channels. If you want all of your basic cable channels, then you're most likely SOL.

Other differences are that the EyeTV has hardware encoding while the HDTV mini doesn't. Not that big of deal if you have a newer Mac.

There are other minor differences, but they are too numerous to list.

If you want all three types of tuners, you'd need a 250 and a mini. There may be problems with the EyeTV software incorporating both tuners. Incidentally, if you only want/need NTSC and ATSC, elgato makes the EyeTV Hybrid. But you lose the QAM features.
ft

[TheSpaz]

OK,

Here's a quick primer. This info refers only to USA standards.

(Long part of the post snipped)

If you want all three types of tuners, you'd need a 250 and a mini. There may be problems with the EyeTV software incorporating both tuners. Incidentally, if you only want/need NTSC and ATSC, elgato makes the EyeTV Hybrid. But you lose the QAM features.
ft

Thank you very much for that detailed and much needed post. It seems as though I made the right choice. I was looking for being able to hook up my standard definition cable to my Mac and I was also excited about the hardware encoding so that I can do other things seamlessly while I watch or record TV shows. Also, I was really only looking for resolution that was about the same quality as iTunes TV shows because I'm tired of paying for something that I could just as easily press a button and record it (or according to the Elgato site, it can record automatically depending on my schedule that I would set up). Also, besides spending $2 on every TV show that I wanna watch on my iPod, you also can't burn them on DVDs or even download them RIGHT after they air. With my schedule, I miss my favorite show by minutes, so it would be nice to be able to record it and watch it shortly after it airs rather than waiting until the next day to download it.

I think I made the right choice. Thanks all!

[Motley]

OK,

Other differences are that the EyeTV has hardware encoding while the HDTV mini doesn't. Not that big of deal if you have a newer Mac.

There are other minor differences, but they are too numerous to list.


I think the only other difference of note is that the 250 supports importing analog video off of camcorders/vcr/etc while the hybrid does not officially support it (though some people have still got it to work).

Anyone have any experiances with how well getting info from a camcorder with the hybrid works?

[Joony]

Joony -

I have been trying to figure this one out but have yet to get any answers. Since you live in the Chicago area, could you more or less tell me what channels you have been able to get using the TVMini HD through your schools cable line.

I plan on getting this, eventually, and want to be sure it will be worth my money.

I go to school at UIUC, and they have Insight cable down there. Through QAM, I am able to get Fox, ABC, NBC, NBC Weather, PBS, and Tube. CBS is supposedly comming soon! I would get a few more channels (CBS, CW) if I put an antenna up, but it wouldn't be worth it.

Back in Chicago for antenna, I get a ton of channels. Take a look:

[Joony]

I couldn't agree more. Do they still have analogue broadcasts on? Where in the frequency table are they broadcasting it? I know London had a trial recently - but I wasn't able to onto it for testing.

Only other way is to download while you're at work, and watch the TV/Mac when you're at home.

F

Don't you Brits have some DVB thing for free digital TV?

Good ole ATSC :)

[ronni3]

Which of these would be HDTV?

[Joony]

These are all digital channels, so they're fairly crisp even if it's not HD.

At minimum, they are all 480i.

During primetime, all the major networks broadcast something in HD.

That would be CBS2-HD, NBC5-DT, WLS-HD, WGC, WTTW, WCIU-TV, WFLD-DT, and WPWR-DT.

WTTW is 720p 24/7 :)

[TheSpaz]

Only one person has an EyeTV 250 to give a screenshot (poorly jpeg'd to make it look terrible)?

Anyone care to share a screenshot that isn't severely compressed beyond recognition?

[iKwick7]

Only one person has an EyeTV 250 to give a screenshot (poorly jpeg'd to make it look terrible)?

Anyone care to share a screenshot that isn't severely compressed beyond recognition?

I don't know why you gotta call me out like that. :)

My feelings are too hurt that I cannot possibly post another image.

[zioxide]

why is everyone overlooking the eyetv hybrid. Its cheaper than the other two tuners mentioned, and ever review i've read about it has been stellar. It even integrates with the apple remote so you don't need to use another one.


I know that once I get my mac mini, i'm getting the hybrid to use as a dvr.

[ftaok]

why is everyone overlooking the eyetv hybrid. Its cheaper than the other two tuners mentioned, and ever review i've read about it has been stellar. It even integrates with the apple remote so you don't need to use another one.


I know that once I get my mac mini, i'm getting the hybrid to use as a dvr.

I can't answer for anyone else, but for me, the reason I'm not getting a hybrid is because of the lack of QAM. For me, that's the deal killer.

ElGato had a great device that did ATSC and QAM, but they discontinued it and sort of replaced it with the Hybrid. However, they replaced the QAM with NTSC. For me, recording NTSC is easily accomplished with my VCR. I don't need a PVR for that. I want HDTV recording abilities.

I guess I could go with the Hybrid's ATSC tuner and use an antenna, but it's much easier and more consistent to use a QAM tuner.

Other than finding an EyeTV 500, the Miglia HDTV mini is the only other Mac product that does QAM.

Personally, I don't have anything yet. I'm waiting for the Macworld Expo and CES to see what new products are introduced.

ft

[TheSpaz]

I don't know why you gotta call me out like that. :)

My feelings are too hurt that I cannot possibly post another image.

That's not calling you out... it's just... I tried asking for a screenshot to see the "quality" of the video you can get with this device but, then you compressed your image down and made it un-realistic to get an idea of the quality that you're getting.

I'm sorry if that was hurting your feelings. That's like if I politely asked for a brand new piece of paper and then you folded it up a few times, creased it, and then handed it to me... it doesn't make any sense.

[dkoralek]

I can't answer for anyone else, but for me, the reason I'm not getting a hybrid is because of the lack of QAM. For me, that's the deal killer.

ElGato had a great device that did ATSC and QAM, but they discontinued it and sort of replaced it with the Hybrid. However, they replaced the QAM with NTSC. For me, recording NTSC is easily accomplished with my VCR. I don't need a PVR for that. I want HDTV recording abilities.

I guess I could go with the Hybrid's ATSC tuner and use an antenna, but it's much easier and more consistent to use a QAM tuner.

Other than finding an EyeTV 500, the Miglia HDTV mini is the only other Mac product that does QAM.

Personally, I don't have anything yet. I'm waiting for the Macworld Expo and CES to see what new products are introduced.

ft

I have a question, because maybe i'm a bit confused. If I had a digital set top box to do the tuning, and fed that in using component cables to an eyeTV 250, I would not be able to display or record the HDCP encoded channels, right, as the eyetv doesn't support HDCP (and every step in the chain needs HDCP), right? Never mind, I realize now that the 250 won't do hdtv anyway.

thanks.

[dukebound85]

this is all confusing even after reading the entire post.

what would you reccomend to get if I just wanted to get cable, digital cable (as most apartments only have cable hookups) and having an input for vcr, camcorder and maybe a satillite box(when at parents)

pretty much I want to watch everything i could on a tv without having a tv (as I cannot really justify getting one just yet)....scifi, discovery, espn, etc

Also in addition to the above, can any solution do all that and be able to let me hook up say an n64 or 360 so I can use my monitor or do these all have lag issues?

many thanks as well

[Joony]

this is all confusing even after reading the entire post.

what would you reccomend to get if I just wanted to get cable, digital cable (as most apartments only have cable hookups) and having an input for vcr, camcorder and maybe a satillite box(when at parents)

pretty much I want to watch everything i could on a tv without having a tv (as I cannot really justify getting one just yet)....scifi, discovery, espn, etc

Also in addition to the above, can any solution do all that and be able to let me hook up say an n64 or 360 so I can use my monitor or do these all have lag issues?

many thanks as well

EyeTV Hybrid (http://www.elgato.com/index.php?file=products_eyetvhybridna), it does HDTV if you have an antenna, or analog cable. Also has inputs fo s-video and composite (yellow), without any lag.

[dukebound85]

EyeTV Hybrid (http://www.elgato.com/index.php?file=products_eyetvhybridna), it does HDTV if you have an antenna, or analog cable. Also has inputs fo s-video and composite (yellow), without any lag.

when looking at the comaprison to the 250, it says it can connect to vcr and camcorders but then another comparison says it cant convert vhs tapes to digital files. it seems that if you san connct the vcr, you could make the file. is that right


also I have heard about slingbox. how does that compare to this with those that have tried it?

[TheSpaz]

Just an update:
I received the EyeTV 250 last night and I think it's great! This is one of the coolest Mac hardware devices I've used in a while. The quality is very good on most of the lower channels and some of the higher channels but, a lot of channels (the higher ones) come in very very fuzzy/noisy. I think it's the very very old (4 way) splitter I'm using. I'm wondering now if the splitters of today's day-and-age are a lot better and give out a better signal. As a test, I unhooked the main cable going into the splitter and connected it directly to the EyeTV 250 and all channels came in virtually fuzz/noise free.

Does anyone have any recommendations on what type of splitter to use? I need at least a 3 way (one in and 3 out). Thanks!

[Joony]

Regal 3 Way splitters on eBay (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=Regal+3+Way). These are what cable installers use.

Also, your cabling might be an issue too. Make sure you're at least using RG6 (or RG6 quad shield if you want even better), rather than the old RG59. Having proper fittings is another thing to keep in mind, compression type connectors are the best, compared to crimp and screw on (eww).

EyeTV is awesome!

[ronni3]

I went with a Slingbox AV instead and would like to know how it fairs, in comparison, to the EyeTV 250/TVmini HD.

[TheSpaz]

looks good. The eyeTV 250 also has an HDTV antenna option. Anyone know if Vancouver, BC gets HDTV airwave broadcast? One thing, the Miglia doesn't have "game mode" does it?

Can anyone explain to me where I get this "HDTV antenna" option for the EyeTV 250. Everywhere that I see says that the EyeTV 250 does not support HD content. Is this true? If I can get an HDTV antenna, where do I get it and how much are they?

[ftaok]

Can anyone explain to me where I get this "HDTV antenna" option for the EyeTV 250. Everywhere that I see says that the EyeTV 250 does not support HD content. Is this true? If I can get an HDTV antenna, where do I get it and how much are they?

There is no such thing as an HDTV antenna. All of the OTA stuff, analog and digital, use the same range of frequencies. So if you have an antenna that works for analog, it'll work for digital.

Now, the EyeTV 250 does not do digital, therfore, it does not do HD. No antenna in the world will change that. You'll need something with either an ATSC or QAM tuner. ATSC is for digital OTA and QAM is for digital cable.

Look at the new Miglia TVmini HD+. It does all three, NTSC/ATSC/QAM. Wait, they haven't updated their website yet.

ft

[TheSpaz]

There is no such thing as an HDTV antenna. All of the OTA stuff, analog and digital, use the same range of frequencies. So if you have an antenna that works for analog, it'll work for digital.

Now, the EyeTV 250 does not do digital, therfore, it does not do HD. No antenna in the world will change that. You'll need something with either an ATSC or QAM tuner. ATSC is for digital OTA and QAM is for digital cable.

Look at the new Miglia TVmini HD+. It does all three, NTSC/ATSC/QAM. Wait, they haven't updated their website yet.

ft

Okay, just as I thought. Thanks. I still really really like my EyeTV 250. I did a little extra research today and found out that my area only gets like 2 free-to-air HD channels and the signal strength is pretty weak. So, I feel like I made the right choice now.

[ronni3]

Just thought I'd share a screenshot of the Slingbox AV at work. Enjoy!

[VicRattlehead]

im confused. lol, im in chicago and have basic concast cable, no digital etc. so if i want to connect to that and get ota HD (basic cbs,nbc,abc,wgn,fox etc) what do i need?

thanks.

keith

edit, i didnt see the Miglia TVmini HD+ post til after i posted, is this what im really wanting? i googled it and saw that its cable ready and ota hd and the unencrypted digital. it seems that this is what im really looking for.

[Mac-Jack]

Does anyone know how video games look on the 250? Would it be useful to use hardware encoding as in better picture quality (if you have a 1.5 ghz PB with 1 gig of ram) than non-hardware encoding? I am usin the Hybrid right now and the cable and video game play does not have decent res at all.

Edit: Is the res affected much if you are recprding whilst on hardware encoding like it does when using processor power?

[ftaok]

im confused. lol, im in chicago and have basic concast cable, no digital etc. so if i want to connect to that and get ota HD (basic cbs,nbc,abc,wgn,fox etc) what do i need?

thanks.

keith

edit, i didnt see the Miglia TVmini HD+ post til after i posted, is this what im really wanting? i googled it and saw that its cable ready and ota hd and the unencrypted digital. it seems that this is what im really looking for.

I'm guessing that Comcast in Chicago does indeed have digital cable and HD. With a QAM device, you would receive any digital channel that Comcast doesn't encrypt, as you've pointed out.

If you check out avsforum.com and the check out the HDTV broadcast forum, you can see what others in Chicago can get through Comcast. Keep in mind that Comcast doesn't make it easy to find the unencrypted channels and they tend to move them around every so often.

ft

[Joony]

I can verify that Comcast in Chicago has most major local channels unencrypted!

I was watching the Bears-Packers game on new years eve on buddy's Sony TV that did QAM :)

Channel surfed a bit and found quite a bit more channels.

Go for it!

[Mac-Jack]

Does anyone know how video games look on the 250? Would it be useful to use hardware encoding as in better picture quality (if you have a 1.5 ghz PB with 1 gig of ram) than non-hardware encoding? I am usin the Hybrid right now and the cable and video game play does not have decent res at all.

Edit: Is the res affected much if you are recording whilst on hardware encoding like it does when using processor power?

Anyone know or can contribute anything?

[ftaok]

Anyone know or can contribute anything?

I don't have 1st hand experience, but I've read so much info on all of these devices, I think I can contribute something.

Anyways, what are you trying to do with video games? Are you just trying to play the game using the Mac's monitor as the screen? Or are you trying to record your video game sessions?

As far as I know, the 250 has a "Game Mode" which turns off the hardware encoding. Sounds counter-intuitive, I know, but when you use the hardware encoding, you introduce lag. So game play is almost unplayable.

If you want to record, it's probably better to use a splitter and send the signal from the video game to a regular TV and to the EyeTV250. You play via the TV and record on the Mac.

ft

[TheSpaz]

I've been playing with this EyeTV 250 and I think turning Game Mode on makes the TV picture smoother! Can anyone back this up? I know it turns off Hardware Encoding so, I'm thinking my powerful Mac Pro can encode at a greater quality than the EyeTV 250 hardware!

Does anyone else have this experience?

Also, I no longer use the EyeTV software to export my videos... I simply use a registered copy of VisualHub (Yes, I broke down and bought it) and it works a lot faster and has a lot better options (Cropping and such). Anyone who has an EyeTV 250... give "Game Mode" a try with TV channels and also try out VisualHub (You can drag the .eyetv file directly to VisualHub to convert the video with the least amount of quality loss.

WooHoo!