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MacRumors
Jan 9, 2007, 07:39 AM
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The Wall Street Journal (paid subscription required) claims that CEO Steve Jobs may announce today the availability of Paramount Pictures' catalog (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB116832637603471212.html), which includes titles such as "Forrest Gump," "Mission: Impossible," and "Star Trek." However, it does not appear as though new releases would be included in the deal (yet).

Paramount decided that by only providing catalog titles, which will be sold at $9.99, it would get most of the benefit from the download service and less of the hassle from retailers, say people familiar with the situation. They reasoned that catalog titles will provide more revenue than new releases.

The deal is an important step for Paramount's parent company Viacom, which came under attack last year for its lack of digital vision.



fenixx
Jan 9, 2007, 07:40 AM
inching closer and closer... i'm so excited!

DavidLeblond
Jan 9, 2007, 07:41 AM
Geez Wall Street Journal... take all the fun out of Macworld, would ya?

virus1
Jan 9, 2007, 07:42 AM
ok.. people its no fun if EVERYTHING has been GUESSED before the keynote. with all this blind shooting, we are bound to hit everything, but whats the fun in that?

Patch^
Jan 9, 2007, 07:46 AM
any news on a European movie / television store for iTunes would be good :)

longofest
Jan 9, 2007, 07:48 AM
ok.. people its no fun if EVERYTHING has been GUESSED before the keynote. with all this blind shooting, we are bound to hit everything, but whats the fun in that?

Oh, I'm sure we've missed some stuff. For instance, we haven't gotten ANY reliable recon on any Mac stuff. I guarantee you an iMac or something is going to be updated today :)

notjustjay
Jan 9, 2007, 07:50 AM
Paramount decided that by only providing catalog titles, which will be sold at $9.99, it would get most of the benefit from the download service and less of the hassle from retailers, say people familiar with the situation.

In other words, money for (practically) nothing. :rolleyes:

Warbrain
Jan 9, 2007, 07:50 AM
Seems a bit dumb if new releases aren't included in the deal...

Frisco
Jan 9, 2007, 07:50 AM
I am excited about what The Wall Street Journal and the rest of us don't yet know.

I am getting my hopes up for one big surprise! And it's only hours away :)

zapp
Jan 9, 2007, 07:51 AM
ok.. people its no fun if EVERYTHING has been GUESSED before the keynote. with all this blind shooting, we are bound to hit everything, but whats the fun in that?


But we won't know what we hit or missed for another three hours. Who knows maybe they won't preview iWork '07, of course then again maybe Bill Gates will come on stage and announce they just aquired Apple, and Microsoft is indeed the leader in the Digital Music Player Market ahead of schedule, and Vista will be delayed for the consumers for another month due to critical updates.

centauratlas
Jan 9, 2007, 07:54 AM
ok.. people its no fun if EVERYTHING has been GUESSED before the keynote.

Of course I could have avoided MacRumors, ThinkSecret, Macintouch etc if I had wanted everything to be a surprise. ;-)

The speculation is part of the fun for me. :)

twoodcc
Jan 9, 2007, 07:55 AM
inching closer and closer... i'm so excited!

yes it is....

hope this is true though, the more the better.....

just gotta make it through 2 classes.....

ainiw
Jan 9, 2007, 07:55 AM
But we won't know what we hit or missed for another three hours.

I agree, let's wait three more hours and have all the e fun then

failsafe1
Jan 9, 2007, 07:59 AM
Cool if true. We need more content that is not Disney! Nothing wrong with the house of mouse it's just more content means drawing more folks. I am waiting to pick up a refurbed video iPod so it draws closer.

cynerjist
Jan 9, 2007, 08:00 AM
i'm fired up. let's enjoy today. wishing us all luck!

Stella
Jan 9, 2007, 08:01 AM
It will be states only.. soo......

YAWN

officerdick
Jan 9, 2007, 08:09 AM
Jobs said that the movie service would go international in 2007! at the Its Showtime keynote

shunpike
Jan 9, 2007, 08:11 AM
so long as in UK - am happy

emotion
Jan 9, 2007, 08:12 AM
I think the phone may be a red herring (for the moment). the iTV and the film thing in iTunes may be the big announcement.

That coupled with new iPod video (to watch those films) could be the whole push.

The iPod video (6G) will have wifi though so it's a wifi capable phone too. :)


....3 hours to go!

timnosenzo
Jan 9, 2007, 08:14 AM
Geez Wall Street Journal... take all the fun out of Macworld, would ya?

HA! :D

Would be nice to get some more Video/Movie content on iTunes!

Sandfleaz
Jan 9, 2007, 08:18 AM
If the iTV (or whatever ) is going to take off, it will need more content than just Disney titles

iflipper
Jan 9, 2007, 08:28 AM
Jobs said that the movie service would go international in 2007! at the Its Showtime keynote

I really hope so, I'm getting a bit fed up of half the announcements/rumours only applying to the US. Cingular phone, movies on demand etc. I want my iphone!

Arcus
Jan 9, 2007, 08:41 AM
Star Trek on iTunes? Im gonna need a second job!!

chuckiej
Jan 9, 2007, 08:43 AM
Sounds like a smart choice for Paramount. Get more money from the catalog while not pissing off the retail channels too much. :rolleyes:

shunpike
Jan 9, 2007, 08:45 AM
Jobs said that the movie service would go international in 2007! at the Its Showtime keynote

YAY - i hope now is the time!

stoid
Jan 9, 2007, 08:53 AM
Doesn't Paramount also hold the rights to the Indiana Jones trilogy?

Porchland
Jan 9, 2007, 08:59 AM
Lions Gate was supposedly deep in discussions with Apple around the same time Disney's films were added to iTunes, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Steve Jobs include Lions Gate in any announcement of new content providers.

Lions Gate's catalog includes the three "Saw" movies and the two "Hostel" movies, and they also produce "Weeds," which is on Showtime (and iTunes).

shunpike
Jan 9, 2007, 08:59 AM
Doesn't Paramount also hold the rights to the Indiana Jones trilogy?

it's got viacom in the begining tites so i asssume so...

blybug
Jan 9, 2007, 08:59 AM
Star Trek on iTunes? Im gonna need a second job!!
just to get you started on the job hunt...

Star Trek on iTunes (https://webmail.utmb.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewTVSeason?id=209375853%26s=143441)

Porchland
Jan 9, 2007, 09:02 AM
Doesn't Paramount also hold the rights to the Indiana Jones trilogy?

Paramount distributed the first three theatrically and on DVD and will distribute the upcoming fourth film, so yeah probably. I'll be curious to see whether Paramount tiptoes in with a small slate of lesser known films or brings out the big catalog titles right away.

Paramount has some heavy hitters: the "Mission: Impossible" films, the "Star Trek" films, "Braveheart," "Forrest Gump," "Top Gun," etc.

Since Warner Brothers and Fox both have TV shows on iTunes, I can't imagine those guys sitting out for very long either.

AppleIntelRock
Jan 9, 2007, 09:04 AM
yay! yet another steve to ramble about before we get new products :p

Scarpad
Jan 9, 2007, 09:08 AM
Star Trek on iTunes? Im gonna need a second job!!


Why? You can pick up the Season sets for around $50 now, and eventually the remastereds will be out as well.

TheAnswer
Jan 9, 2007, 09:10 AM
any news on a European movie / television store for iTunes would be good :)

I don't know why the networks don't jump on this one straight away...I'm sure a lot of piracy takes place over people hooked on junk American television that doesn't make it's way across the pond for a year or so.

And of course, it would be nice if it went both ways...I'm sure there are people who would love to watch some of the european stuff that are currently getting it off torrents as well.

Stella
Jan 9, 2007, 09:21 AM
I don't know why the networks don't jump on this one straight away...I'm sure a lot of piracy takes place over people hooked on junk American television that doesn't make it's way across the pond for a year or so.


Old farts who fear distributed technology.

blashphemy
Jan 9, 2007, 09:32 AM
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The Wall Street Journal (paid subscription required) claims that CEO Steve Jobs may announce today the availability of Paramount Pictures' catalog (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB116832637603471212.html), which includes titles such as "Forrest Gump," "Mission: Impossible," and "Star Trek." However, it does not appear as though new releases would be included in the deal (yet).

Definitely a good thing. However, I would like to see a lot of the movie prices go down, mainly the catalog titles. One of the reasons that iTMS was so successful in the first place is that the music albulms on iTMS were $10 but the CDs were around $15. However, you can pretty much go into any Best Buy or Circuit City and there will be a whole rack of DVDs - no DRM or anything - for $6.99. Right now, movies on iTunes is real good - but without any subtitles (im hard-of-hearing), DVD extras, etc.- I can't really justify the cost, except for the brand-new release titles: Pirates of the Carribean DMC was $12.99 in the first week and pretty hard to find for any less than $20 elsewhere.

Side note - Steve announced CC for quicktime back at the leopard preview (WWDC, right?) so I'm betting that subtitles for iTMS material will come around the release of leopard.

MonkeyClaw
Jan 9, 2007, 09:52 AM
Star Trek on iTunes? Im gonna need a second job!!

You bet your ass, I'm really lookin forward to that, hah.

bommai
Jan 9, 2007, 10:08 AM
Unlike music purchase, movies should have a rent option.

Here are the issues with buying movies:

1) Effective backup - movies need to be backed up to DVDs. Many people might forget to do that.

2) Disk space - Even with backup, many people don't know how to manage their hard drive. It might fill up with movies that they buy.

3) Quality - Currently, all movies support only Dolby Surround (prologic) instead of Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS

4) Buyers like keep sake box - Movie collectors typically like more physical stuff and special features, etc.

Advantages of renting.

1) It is like pay-per-view instead of subscribing to cable/satellite.
2) Much bigger library to choose from compared to pay-per-view or even video on demand.
3) Order from iTV, store in iTV and watch from iTV. No trip to computer. No computer even needed. Only broadband internet.
4) iTV could have a 40-60 GB HD just for caching and storing rented movies.
5) To make sure rented movies are not pirated, Apple could prevent you from copying the rented movies out of iTV.

siurpeeman
Jan 9, 2007, 10:26 AM
Seems a bit dumb if new releases aren't included in the deal...

some movies are better than no movies. any step that increases the catalog of the itunes movie store is a good one. it's also a good way for paramount to test the viability of the online music store. and when they realize it's a good means of distribution, i'm sure new releases won't be too far behind.

darwen
Jan 9, 2007, 03:26 PM
I knew they were updating something. The store was needing rebuffers on everything last night. I didnt say anthing cause I was afraid it was on my end but this makes sense now!

stainlessliquid
Jan 9, 2007, 03:28 PM
9.99 for old movies I can find in the bargain bin at the grocery store for a little over 5 bucks? Are they insane?

I mean really, the collectors edition (2 disc) of Forest Gump at amazon is only 8 bucks with free shipping. Who came up with these prices?

Multimedia
Jan 9, 2007, 03:45 PM
I love CBS most of all the networks. They are the Jerry Bruckheimer network. CSI, CSI Miami, CSI New York, Close To Home, Katie Couric etc. ;)

Very exciting for those who can afford to buy TV shows.

The Toon Master
Jan 9, 2007, 04:40 PM
Sorry if this has already been said, but look at this

go to apple.com, and try the iPhone demo. Click to slide out, and go to widescreen iPod, then go to videos. One of the videos is Zoolander, which is from Paramount Pictures

Pic in a sec..

EDIT:

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2089/iphoneca5.png (http://imageshack.us)

macfan881
Jan 9, 2007, 05:49 PM
so where is paramaount in the store is it on itunes or what? :confused:

jimthorn
Jan 9, 2007, 05:50 PM
And that graphic on Apple.com with the iPod and the Paramount movie posters scrolling behind... I see... KHHHHHAAAAAANNNN!!! :)

The Toon Master
Jan 9, 2007, 06:25 PM
It's Officially BEEN ADDED TO ITUNES!!!

Looks like all thge star trek movies are on there

Aeolius
Jan 9, 2007, 07:37 PM
I'm waiting for "Popeye" with Robin Williams... it's a Paramount release and Amazon had it in their downloads.

mrploddy
Jan 9, 2007, 08:22 PM
Yep Paramount Movies are being added but at the time of writing Star Trek III isn't there yet but all the others are oO

-mprloddy

failsafe1
Jan 9, 2007, 09:51 PM
Just checked and there is actually one movie I have not seen. Gotta get the Mickey Spillane block of cheese called Ring of Fear. Love old movies even it they are bad. Orca may be next.:rolleyes:

failsafe1
Jan 9, 2007, 09:52 PM
I'm waiting for "Popeye" with Robin Williams... it's a Paramount release and Amazon had it in their downloads.

I have not seen or heard of Amazon's download service lately. Is it still around?

Aeolius
Jan 11, 2007, 10:46 PM
"Popeye" is now available! Very nice! :)

AppleIntelRock
Jan 11, 2007, 10:51 PM
It seem the initial scare is over. I think over the next year, a very large amount of movies will be available on iTunes. Too bad we don't have any good devices to put the content on :(. Come June- we still wont. :mad: