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Sam0r
Jan 20, 2007, 06:11 AM
I've been contemplating buying a macbook, but I just found out Daystar can upgrade my powerbook (1ghz G4 Aluminium) to 1.92 ghz for 301 including international shipping.

Has anyone done this? Is it worth it?

Does anyone know of any side effects? Their FAQ says that power requirements are a little higher, but not much. And also there isn't much more heat given off by the upgraded processor.



liketom
Jan 20, 2007, 06:14 AM
i thought the G4's was solderd on the logic board?

Sam0r
Jan 20, 2007, 06:15 AM
They are, but I'm guessing they can remove it.

iW00t
Jan 20, 2007, 06:15 AM
For that price I rather buy a refurb Macbook.

That is almost 600 US dollars!

Sam0r
Jan 20, 2007, 06:17 AM
For that price I rather buy a refurb Macbook.

That is almost 600 US dollars!

Yep, but in the UK, a macbook costs around £700 which is £400 more than the upgrade.

Plus I get to keep the graphics, bigger screen and higher resolution.

Edit:

Correction, for the 1gb model, its £879.

liketom
Jan 20, 2007, 06:21 AM
Yep, but in the UK, a macbook costs around 700 which is 400 more than the upgrade.

Plus I get to keep the graphics, bigger screen and higher resolution.

Edit:

Correction, for the 1gb model, its 879.

but a brighter screen and i'm betting a faster cpu with the macbook also -isight

and it will not warp like the powerbook :)

Sam0r
Jan 20, 2007, 06:25 AM
but a brighter screen and i'm betting a faster cpu with the macbook also -isight

and it will not warp like the powerbook :)

It won't warp? :confused:

I've no interest in an iSight built in, I don't like the idea of there ALWAYS being a webcam there watching me, it sort of freaks me out.

I don't really care about the screen brightness, its fine as it is, and anyway I'd much rather the higher resolution.

liketom
Jan 20, 2007, 06:27 AM
It won't warp? :confused:

I've no interest in an iSight built in, I don't like the idea of there ALWAYS being a webcam there watching me, it sort of freaks me out.

I don't really care about the screen brightness, its fine as it is, and anyway I'd much rather the higher resolution.

for your info on warping ( no star trek ) http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=170776

NewSc2
Jan 20, 2007, 06:31 AM
Personally I'd get a Macbook. If you're looking for a speed increase.. the G4's feel like a really old CPU to me whenever I use my gf's iBook (used to have a PB myself). I really doubt a speed bump would do much, seeing as how many programs coming out are optimized for Intel chips.

Iono about you, but in the states a refurb CD Macbook can go for about $900. How are refurb prices in the UK?

If you pick up a Macbook you have the luxury of having two laptops -- you could continue to use both or sell your PB.

Sam0r
Jan 20, 2007, 06:39 AM
Personally I'd get a Macbook. If you're looking for a speed increase.. the G4's feel like a really old CPU to me whenever I use my gf's iBook (used to have a PB myself). I really doubt a speed bump would do much, seeing as how many programs coming out are optimized for Intel chips.

Iono about you, but in the states a refurb CD Macbook can go for about $900. How are refurb prices in the UK?

If you pick up a Macbook you have the luxury of having two laptops -- you could continue to use both or sell your PB.

I'd love a macbook, but I can't justify the price.

Over here a Macbook with 1gb of ram, 2ghz C2D is $879, which is $1733.74, over 3x the price of the upgrade.

MacRumorUser
Jan 20, 2007, 07:58 AM
Nice upgrade. What is their policy on screwups ? If they destroy your PB during upgrade, do you have any comeback from them ?

That would be my biggest worry.

Besides you could sell your PB for 400 + the cost of the upgrade 400 and your nearly their for the price of the new MacBook - which you get another years waranty and piece of mind.

I'd prefer the 2ghz powerbook personally though ;)

Kissaragi
Jan 20, 2007, 08:10 AM
Your powerbook would get 500 easily on ebay (assuming its in good condition) add that to your 300 and bam! (too much futurama) you have a macbook.

sushi
Jan 20, 2007, 08:14 AM
For that price I rather buy a refurb Macbook.
True.

However, for those of us who still use Classic, this provides a wonderful alternative. :)

Sam0r
Jan 20, 2007, 08:42 AM
Well, I have no use for classic, I bought this Powerbook for 400 a while back.

Its not exactly in great shape, although I'm going to buy a new bottom for it, theres dents all over it, and theres a key missing.

I don't really want to sell it though, I don't NEED a powerfull laptop, but I want something a bit more powerfull than 1ghz.

I do a lot of web design, and even though photoshop is universal now, dreamweaver and flash aren't, and there doesn't seem to be any sign that they will be universal any time soon.

As far as their policy on screwups is conserned, I'd expect that if in the event of a screwup, they'd repair the damage.

Oh and the coolness factor to having a 1.92 ghz powerbook is pretty high ;)

Although, I've read that the 1.92 ghz upgrade causes problems, however the 1.75ghz upgrade is fine, so I might opt for the 1.75 ghz upgrade instead, although I'll talk to them about it.

4nr-
Jan 20, 2007, 08:48 AM
For that price I rather buy a refurb Macbook.

That is almost 600 US dollars!

True what you say about the US dollars, but thats at the current exchange rate. Counting purchasing power, it would be a lot less.

iomar
Jan 20, 2007, 09:04 AM
It might be a good idea. But you have to be careful you might not be able to upgrade to the new oprating system Panther and Leopard.

SuperCompu2
Jan 20, 2007, 09:12 AM
...you might not be able to upgrade to the new oprating system Panther and Leopard.

God forbid you can't upgrade to Panther, you might have to settle for Tiger.
:p

Lord Blackadder
Jan 20, 2007, 09:53 AM
I say go for it. I haven't yet heard from anyone who bought this upgrade, but Barefeats did a benchmark of this upgrade in both an iMac G4 (http://www.barefeats.com/imup.html) and PowerBook G4 (http://www.barefeats.com/pbcd.html), and both showed very nice performance improvements, although the MacBook is still significantly faster.

daystartech
Jan 20, 2007, 11:57 AM
Nice upgrade. What is their policy on screwups ? If they destroy your PB during upgrade, do you have any comeback from them ?

Daystar fully warranties the upgrade and the logic board from any "srewups". Although accidents can happen, Daystar takes the cost not the user.

The upgrade is a pretty straight forward process (in engineering terms), it simply uses the fastest available 7447A CPUs. The boost is noticeable. As most people realize that the UI heavy Mac OS interface is always starved for more CPU power.

Daystar has completed more than 10,000 of these types of upgrades, and is the only company to master the process. You can feel safe.

QCassidy352
Jan 20, 2007, 12:19 PM
it'll certainly give your powerbook a new lease on life, but for how long? it's still a G4. Meaning it's an incremental upgrade. Nothing to sneeze at, but that's a lot of money to still be 3 processor generations old (G5, CD, C2D).

Sam0r
Jan 20, 2007, 12:23 PM
Daystar fully warranties the upgrade and the logic board from any "srewups". Although accidents can happen, Daystar takes the cost not the user.

The upgrade is a pretty straight forward process (in engineering terms), it simply uses the fastest available 7447A CPUs. The boost is noticeable. As most people realize that the UI heavy Mac OS interface is always starved for more CPU power.

Daystar has completed more than 10,000 of these types of upgrades, and is the only company to master the process. You can feel safe.

Assuming you work for daystar (Gary?) what can you say about the XLR8 reports on the 1.92ghz upgrades?

Link: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G4CARDS/daystar_1.92GHz_PB_G4.html

NewSc2
Jan 20, 2007, 03:40 PM
Well, not only that, you're only only upgrading the CPU and nothing else. What's your GPU? Did the G4 undergo any chipset upgrades? Hard drive speed? Superdrive? etc.

Sam0r
Jan 20, 2007, 03:43 PM
Well, not only that, you're only only upgrading the CPU and nothing else. What's your GPU? Did the G4 undergo any chipset upgrades? Hard drive speed? Superdrive? etc.

Radeon 9600 Mobile 64mb, don't need anything better.

I've got a Hitachi deskstar 7k100 100gb in it and its really nice and fast.

Don't need a superdrive either, I've got an external dvd burner I use.

Lord Blackadder
Jan 20, 2007, 03:46 PM
A new, faster hard drive would complement a CPU upgrade well.

It just is not possible to upgrade just a chipset. In the PC world that means a motherboard upgrade at minimum(often including a CPU/RAM upgrade), in the Mac world it pretty much means a whole new Mac.

ktbubster
Jan 20, 2007, 08:50 PM
I agree with most people here and would recommend you selling your powerbook for whatever you can get for it and putting the upgrade money into a new/newer macbook or macbook pro.

I said "am i missing something?" because I was just curious can't you find a first run of macbook pros on ebay that will ship to the uk for more normal price of 1000-1200 US? So about 5 or 600?

Even first fun of a macbook pro used, still with some apple care would insure a year or 2 of warranty, the higher resolution and atleast 1.83ghx in speed with intel, which would be very useful when your new programs do upgrade, and would allow you to get bootcamp or parallels and run any cool computer graphics programs or 3d stuff or get random brush attachments that maybe you could only have on windows?

That would be my suggestion. Ebay a lightly used computer that still has some applecare and only end up paying a little bit more after selling.

(ps if it's missing a key just get a replacement keyboard and replace the keys, that's a tiny investment plus teh new case before selling... even broken powerbook g4s go for good prices here)

I think this option would give you more for your money and keep you from having to upgrade any time soon or worry about 3rd party companies accidently messing up your computer.

bousozoku
Jan 20, 2007, 09:00 PM
Well, I have no use for classic, I bought this Powerbook for 400 a while back.

Its not exactly in great shape, although I'm going to buy a new bottom for it, theres dents all over it, and theres a key missing.

I don't really want to sell it though, I don't NEED a powerfull laptop, but I want something a bit more powerfull than 1ghz.

I do a lot of web design, and even though photoshop is universal now, dreamweaver and flash aren't, and there doesn't seem to be any sign that they will be universal any time soon.

As far as their policy on screwups is conserned, I'd expect that if in the event of a screwup, they'd repair the damage.

Oh and the coolness factor to having a 1.92 ghz powerbook is pretty high ;)

Although, I've read that the 1.92 ghz upgrade causes problems, however the 1.75ghz upgrade is fine, so I might opt for the 1.75 ghz upgrade instead, although I'll talk to them about it.

I'd definitely suggest caution and select the 1.75 GHz upgrade, if I were doing it.

While there is a coolness factor, the 1.92 GHz generates more heat and that could be difficult to dismiss, unless you're warming your lunch or coffee.

I've looked several times at MacBooks and they are nice, unless you want the physically bigger (okay, 54 extra pixels too) display and more powerful graphics hardware of the PowerBook before the last lot.

I'd think the upgrade quite good.

davidjearly
Feb 7, 2007, 07:14 AM
To the OP, did you ever go for this upgrade? Just curious to see how it went?

To everyone else, please stop continually suggesting a MB when the OP has clearly stated on several occasions that the cost of the upgraded processor is significantly less than the cost of a new MB (refurb or not, second hand or not, from the US or not (don't forget the VAT on import to UK))

David

Sam0r
Feb 7, 2007, 07:16 AM
To the OP, did you ever go for this upgrade? Just curious to see how it went?

To everyone else, please stop continually suggesting a MB when the OP has clearly stated on several occasions that the cost of the upgraded processor is significantly less than the cost of a new MB (refurb or not, second hand or not, from the US or not (don't forget the VAT on import to UK))

David

I decided not to get it upgraded, mianly because I've just started a full time job and I'll be able to afford a whole new laptop.

I'm probably going to go for a 15" 2.16ghz MBP with 2gb of ram.

GoCubsGo
Feb 7, 2007, 07:31 AM
Think of the warp like the whine that people bitch about. I am not saying that it did not exist, but if it did it existed in a small amount of owners and the issue seems huge due to the fact that bad news travels faster than good news.

I say go for it. While it is not the coveted new machine or new technology, it will extend the life of your powerbook. For me I have zero intentions to ever buy another notebook-at least that is the plan today. I will move to a desktop and keep the powerbook for travel and such. I haven't a need for a high performance desktop and notebook and the plan was always to keep the powerbook for a few years and move to a desktop when I was nearly done or done with school. This is the type of upgrade I would consider. I would move to a faster hard drive (and larger) and do the CPU upgrade. The whole process would scare me but if the company warrants against screw up and malfunction then I'd be all over it.

I hope you do that. But if you feel like you need to do this not because you just want a little jump but because you cannot get your hands on the MBP then I would suggest selling as everyone else is suggesting. But if you're just trying to extend the life and it fits your needs etc etc then do it. 300 is less than anything you'd shell out for a new one even if you sold this one.

iMpathetic
Mar 25, 2008, 08:10 PM
Buying a powerbook with this upgrade installed... I'll report and see how it goes!:eek:

thekorksta
Mar 26, 2008, 04:49 PM
I like the idea of upgrades to extend the life of your laptop, thats if you dont require a modern GPU ect. I once upgraded my G3 400Mhz powerbook to a G4 550 It lasted that bit extra while I done the waiting game on new hardware. Although new equipment seems cheaper these days and makes the upgrade look less attractive.

A little while ago there was a whisper of a dual core CPU from PAsemi that was pin compatible with the last of the G4 powerbooks, but nothing seems to have ever come to fruition. Shame.